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Colin McFadyen

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Aug 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/28/96
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The 520-3900 (17:00 - 08:00 only) dial-up modem number will be removed from
service on Monday September 16 1996.

Access to the 520-3900 modems will be provided by dialing 520-1000. 520-1000
has been programmed to include the 520-3900 modems in its pool from 5 p.m.
until 8 a.m..

This change will allow CCS to maintain just one phone number for general
dial-up access.


520-1000 modem availability
---------------------------
Monday - Friday 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. : 166 modems
Monday - Friday 5 p.m. - 8 a.m. : 294 modems
Weekends (i.e. Friday 5 p.m. - Monday 8 a.m.) : 294 modems

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Colin McFadyen - Systems Support - col...@ccs.carleton.ca
Carleton University Computing and Communications Services
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6

Brian Ross

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Aug 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/28/96
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Colin McFadyen <col...@max.carleton.ca> wrote in article
<colinm.841251056@max>...

> The 520-3900 (17:00 - 08:00 only) dial-up modem number will be removed
from
> service on Monday September 16 1996.
>
> Access to the 520-3900 modems will be provided by dialing 520-1000.
520-1000
> has been programmed to include the 520-3900 modems in its pool from 5
p.m.
> until 8 a.m..
>
> This change will allow CCS to maintain just one phone number for general
> dial-up access.
>
>
> 520-1000 modem availability
> ---------------------------
> Monday - Friday 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. : 166 modems
> Monday - Friday 5 p.m. - 8 a.m. : 294 modems
> Weekends (i.e. Friday 5 p.m. - Monday 8 a.m.) : 294 modems

What happens then if I log in at 7:30? and just happen to get a 5-8 modem.
I assume I will just get booted off. (even if there were 1000 lines
available?)
Normally I am willing to wait the extra minute or two to get a 1000 line so
I
dont get booted off here. Now we dont have that choice (hmm.. 28.8? 14.4?
no choice there either) :)

Before we had the choice whether we wanted to risk being on the 3900 line
or the 1000 line (with different concequences). Think of what would happen
if
you mixed in the 10 minute lines now... (slightly more devastating and
probably
not ever going to happen, but same problem)


Sean Kaye

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Aug 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/28/96
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> 520-1000 modem availability
> ---------------------------
> Monday - Friday 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. : 166 modems
> Monday - Friday 5 p.m. - 8 a.m. : 294 modems
> Weekends (i.e. Friday 5 p.m. - Monday 8 a.m.) : 294 modems

Just a question, if all those modems are now available on the one line,
why do 128 of them shutdown during the day? I was under the impression
(falsely I assume) that the reason those modems weren't available was
because the line (520-3900) was being used for office purposes.

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Sean Kaye
Political Science Major
Carleton University

Founding Member of the Church of the Kidnapped Jesus.

Email address: sk...@chat.carleton.ca
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Andrew Metcalfe

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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Colin McFadyen (col...@max.carleton.ca) wrote:

: This change will allow CCS to maintain just one phone number for general
: dial-up access.

Is there still a ten minuit line?

-Am

John Stewart

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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>> 520-1000 modem availability
>> ---------------------------
>> Monday - Friday 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. : 166 modems
>> Monday - Friday 5 p.m. - 8 a.m. : 294 modems
>> Weekends (i.e. Friday 5 p.m. - Monday 8 a.m.) : 294 modems

>Just a question, if all those modems are now available on the one line,
>why do 128 of them shutdown during the day?

The 166 modems that are available at all times are connected via dedicated
Bell phone lines. The additional 128 modems are connected to our Mitel
phone switch and make use of trunk line capacity (to Bell) that would
otherwise not be utilized outside of regular office hours.
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John Stewart -- Computing and Communications Services, Carleton University
Internet: jste...@ccs.carleton.ca 613-520-2600x3707
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John Stewart -- Computing and Communications Services, Carleton University
Internet: jste...@ccs.carleton.ca 613-520-2600x3707
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Colin McFadyen

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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>Colin McFadyen (col...@max.carleton.ca) wrote:

Yes. 520-4411 is still in service. There are no plans to remove
the 10 minute access lines.

Colin McFadyen

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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In <01bb956b$e2c940a0$0f02000a@bug> "Brian Ross" <br...@engsoc.carleton.ca> writes:

>This is what I thought.... Most of the time when I am connected at 7am
>(or before), the modems are usually free till around 10am. I guess this
>means
>that if I am lucky.. I get a '1000' line and dont get booted till the pool
>is full.
>If I am unlucky, and I get a '3900' line. I will get booted at 8am all the
>time.

>Is there anyway we can tell which we are on?

Yes. The 5 p.m. - 8 a.m. modems are connected to ccs-annex5 and
ccs-annex6. After dialing in and connecting, you can look at the annex
prompt to determine which annex you are connected to.

Brian Ross

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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> >What happens then if I log in at 7:30? and just happen to get a 5-8
modem.
> >I assume I will just get booted off. (even if there were 1000 lines
> >available?)
>
> The 5 p.m. - 8 a.m. modems actually stop accepting calls at 7 a.m. and
the
> Annex ports for those lines are reset at 8 a.m..
>
> This means that users connected before 7 a.m. will get at least 1 hour of
> connect time. It also prevents/protects users from connecting at 07:55
and
> then getting booted off after 5 minutes.

Andrew Metcalfe

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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Sean Kaye (sk...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:

: Just a question, if all those modems are now available on the one line,
: why do 128 of them shutdown during the day? I was under the impression


: (falsely I assume) that the reason those modems weren't available was
: because the line (520-3900) was being used for office purposes.

From what I understand, it's not the phone lines specifically, which are
being used - but rather the capacity of switches themselves are used up.

If dial up users were to use all the availiable lines, the switch would be
overloaded, and people trying to call into the University for whatever
reason would not even get past the switching equitment, never mind ring
through.

I could be, and probably am wrong though. :)

Andrew Metcalfe
Canadian Studies at Carleton University.
End User Education, Metcalfe Consulting, Toronto Free-Net.
See the best of Carleton's webspace at http://www.carleton.ca/bestof

John Stewart

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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In <01bb9527$dde42440$0f02000a@bug> "Brian Ross" <br...@engsoc.carleton.ca> writes:

>What happens then if I log in at 7:30? and just happen to get a 5-8 modem.
>I assume I will just get booted off. (even if there were 1000 lines
>available?)

No, I don't think you will get booted off at 8:00.

Colin McFadyen

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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In <01bb9527$dde42440$0f02000a@bug> "Brian Ross" <br...@engsoc.carleton.ca> writes:


>What happens then if I log in at 7:30? and just happen to get a 5-8 modem.
>I assume I will just get booted off. (even if there were 1000 lines
>available?)

The 5 p.m. - 8 a.m. modems actually stop accepting calls at 7 a.m. and the


Annex ports for those lines are reset at 8 a.m..

This means that users connected before 7 a.m. will get at least 1 hour of
connect time. It also prevents/protects users from connecting at 07:55 and
then getting booted off after 5 minutes.

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