goat heads and flats

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bennettjoh

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Feb 6, 2010, 10:03:56 PM2/6/10
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Fellow Carbent owners. Anyone have experience with those little sharp
white thorny things called goat heads? I have recently relocated to
Albuquerque where there seems to be an infestation of these things
which I have never seen before. I have plenty of advice on how to
take measures of prevention for touring bikes with bigger tires but
what about a Carbent with skinny high pressure tires like the Conti
GP4000 I use now? Please advise.

Thanks!

David Bradley Computers

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Feb 6, 2010, 10:30:46 PM2/6/10
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yes, the best solution to goatheads is to move elsewhere!!

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Dana Lieberman

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Feb 6, 2010, 10:31:30 PM2/6/10
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Nah...Slime or some other sealant should work well for you.  As much as I hate the stuff, for goatheads, I don't see any alternative.

Dana
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bennettjoh

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Feb 8, 2010, 11:32:43 PM2/8/10
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Hah! David, I moved to Albuquerque a week ago from Mississippi. I
think that my dear financee might care to stay put for a while. FYI,
I visited a three local bike shops today to discuss the goathead
remedy and they all had consistent answers: slime, slime + tire
liners, slime + tire liners + something else. I elected to give the
slime a shot. The most interesting suggestion came from the guy at
bike coop on route 66 who suggested taking my old tires, cutting off
the beads and using the rest for a liner of sorts. He says that the
older of the store "actually invented" the idea back in the '70s.
Kinda like Al Gore invented the internet? I installed slime filled
tubes on both of my Rans V2 bikes and my Carbent with plenty of green
goo spread all over my garage, my tools and me. Let us just say that
my garage work bench and my fingers will not be leaking air any time
soon. Another observation is that I dropped big bucks to own one of
the lightest bikes on the planet only to weight it down with green
goop to avoid flats... In reality, my digital scale said that the two
slimed tubes added a total of 5 ounces to the overall bike weight. I
will share an update on puncture resistance for all who are interested
after a few miles.

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Timothy Woudenberg

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Feb 8, 2010, 11:57:05 PM2/8/10
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Goat heads are just amazing things. Who'd a thunk that evolution could make just the finest thing for puncturing tires, long before tires were invented?

But here's another defense against goatheads: Remember they are not in the roadway. Any goathead that might find it's way into the roadway is immediately picked up by the next car tire that goes by. The goatheads are waiting for you on the shoulder. Learn to identify the plant on sight, so you never pull off the road near one.

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Willie

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Feb 9, 2010, 4:33:49 AM2/9/10
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I have a better solution for those pesky goatheads. Buy one of these:

http://www.allianzsweeper.com/content/vt650.php

and hire a driver to drive in front of you! :)

Willie

PS
If you are really bored, watch the WHOLE video

Duane Jardine

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Feb 9, 2010, 9:04:46 AM2/9/10
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But they do grow right next to the roadways here and their runners
extend out into the road. I know that I got a flat once from one
that did that. I just hate Goat Heads.

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Sandy

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Feb 9, 2010, 10:10:36 AM2/9/10
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Current state of the art in Man v Goathead is sorely lacking. GH is
gaining on us, mainly due to its superior capacity for adaptive
learning. It's really not the goathead to blame that humans' ground
interface is so much softer than that of the mastodon, bison, or other
less susceptible hosts. The have definitely taken on a badass, "Why
don't we do it in the road" mentality. Rest assured that there are
goatheads out on the paved playing surface. After all, the worst case
scenario is not a bad deal for them: you're an impervious object in a
hot, dry, miserable place, and best-case, you get to move on to
someplace that might be better, courtesy of someone's tire. The
benefit to riding in the road is that, if you're lucky, the last 18-
wheeler to go through has ground the rough edges off, and Gauss says
that there should be fewer the further out from the shoulder you get,
in a perfect world.
Evolve or die. Embrace the slime, watch where you step, and try to not
to become a free ride for the little pests.

On Feb 8, 8:57 pm, Timothy Woudenberg <woude...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Goat heads are just amazing things.  Who'd a thunk that evolution could make just the finest thing for puncturing tires, long before tires were invented?
>
> But here's another defense against goatheads:  Remember they are not in the roadway.  Any goathead that might find it's way into the roadway is immediately picked up by the next car tire that goes by.  The goatheads are waiting for you on the shoulder.  Learn to identify the plant on sight, so you never pull off the road near one.
>

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Timothy Woudenberg

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Feb 9, 2010, 10:57:52 AM2/9/10
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I hate it when the goatheads win! Superior capacity for adaptive learning? Huh! I'm stickin with what I know best...

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bennettjoh

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Feb 17, 2010, 10:38:52 PM2/17/10
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A brief review of my quest for minimizing flats from goatheads and
other evilness on the roadways.

After two weeks of asking the same questions to multiple local bike
shops with no consistent answers, I elected to go with a product
called "Goo" for my Carbent tires and Slime for my Rans V2. In both
cases, the process of adding the liquid to presta valve tubes can be
messy. What I really did not like was the sloshing in the tire and
the "out of round" feeling that the liquids gave the tires. The few
ounces of added weight was not so great either. I decided to venture
out to one last bike shop which turned out to be productive. The kid
at this shop suggested a product called Stans. One ounce in each tire
on the Carbent with no significant weight penalty and no more of the
sloshing sensation. One hundred yards into my first ride and pop goes
the tire! The Stans did its job instantly and sealed the leak or what
I thought was a leak. I stopped to inspect only to find that the
sidewall of the tire was off of the rim and had pinched the tube.
Likely the result of my rushed tire installation job. I put in a new
tube and all is well. The Stans product added about 3 ounces of total
weight to the bike which is of no consequence. It also seemed a
little less messy to pump into the presta valve tubes. My final
conclusion: Slime was heavy and messy. Goo was lighter but sloshed
around in the tire like water, it was also a bit messy. I assume that
all products are effective. I doubt that any product is perfect but I
can see why all of the local roadies all suggested the Stans product
to help prevent flats.

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> I hate it when the goatheads win!  Superior capacity for adaptive learning? Huh!  I'm stickin with what I know best...
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