Amsterdam Charging Point Data

[kalun]

Hi Car2Go team,

It seems like the Car2Go charging point availability is incorrect (ie,
the charging pole seems to be always empty). I am not from
Amsterdam...So I thought people just charged their cars at home or
something...

One of the member from the Car2Go Amsterdam team has informed me that
correct data can be found here:
http://www.amsterdam.nl/publish/pages/400612/2011-11-25_using_the_amsterdam_charging_points_webservice.pdf

Anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Thanks,
Kalun

[Claus Näveke]

On Dec 27 2011, 11:53 pm, kalun <kalu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Kalun,

> It seems like the Car2Go charging point availability is incorrect (ie,
> the charging pole seems to be always empty).  I am not from
> Amsterdam...So I thought people just charged their cars at home or
> something...

we are working on this issue and the data should already have become
more reliable.

> One of the member from the Car2Go Amsterdam team has informed me that

> correct data can be found here:http://www.amsterdam.nl/publish/pages/400612/2011-11-25_using_the_ams...

This webservice provides the data from the charging stations themself.
Those data are more reliable when all cars in front of a charging pole
are charging, but they won't give you any vehicles just parked in
front of it, so this won't be 100% accurate either.

Kind Regards
Claus

[kalun]

Great. Thanks for the update.

[kalun]

Hi Claus,

I did another run over the charging points at Amsterdam, and they are
still empty. Compare to a week ago, I don't really see the data being
more reliable.

Thanks,
Kalun

On Jan 10, 1:11 am, Claus Näveke <claus.naev...@daimler.com> wrote:

[Andreas Kern]

PUSH ;)

Any news on this topic?

[Andreas Kern]

Hello out there. I'm still getting frequent mails from customers complaining that the data is not correct. Is there any chance that the data will get reliable?

[Nico Witteman]

Not only are the availability data about the charging poles in Amsterdam incorrect, also they are incomplete, though the same can be said for the information in the car2go’s themselves. I followed the information in the link provided earlier, and used in in my app Carthago. It is not as fast, but it is quite reliable.

BTW: parking in front of a charging pole without actually charging is not allowed, so that chance is not that big.

 

Regards,

Nico

[Andreas Kern]

Thank you for the information. This means, that you don't need to charge the car2go at a charging point from car2go. You can use as well the charging points provided by the city?

Sad that the license doesn't allow me to use the API, because my app is not for free.

Greetings, Andreas Kern.

[Nico Witteman]

There are no car2go charging points here, the city now has 250, planning to expand to 1000.
Nico

-origineel bericht-

Onderwerp: Re: Amsterdam Charging Point Data

Van: Andreas Kern <andre...@mac.com>
Datum: 2012-08-03 10.31

[Nico Witteman]

Hi Gabor et alii,

I don’t think the first link you mention is an official Amsterdam city feed. It is hosted by a commerical organisation.  Where did you get it?

Following the second link, this looks very much like the Essent interface I mentioned earlier, although they may have combined static and dynamic data into one call. At first sight, I have my doubts about the reliability. To use this, you would still have to de-duplicate and interpret the data.

 

An alternative would be this (in Dutch):

http://www.oplaadpalen.nl/w/developers/

They say it has advantages over the Essent API, but I cannot confirm.

 

Anyway, your conclusion is right: what car2go provides in the app and the API is unrealiable. The same goes for the information given on screen in the cars.

 

In the meantime, I’ll stick to my own implementation of the Essent API.

 

Regards,

Nico

 

 

 

 

Van: car2go-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:car2go-...@googlegroups.com] Namens Gabor Foldvari
Verzonden: dinsdag 19 februari 2013 8:56
Aan: car2go-...@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: Amsterdam Charging Point Data

 

Hi All,

 

A new version of the Android Application has been pushed to the Google Play. Now the app can tell how many charging spots are available at a given charging station. I believe to introduce this functionality only wise to do if it actually works.

But it does not.

Dozens of charging stations are missing. Those spots which are occupied are mark as available.

I would be interested to know why does fetching the up-to-date data cause difficulties for the Team?

 

Just for a reference to the existing charging points provided by Amsterdam city. It is worth to compare what car2go provides.

 

http://amsterdam-maps.bma-collective.com/embed/elektrisch/laden/

 

The green icons are the available charging points (at least 1 free spot), the blue the fully occupied ones.

And this is the source what the site is using

http://amsterdam-maps.bma-collective.com/embed/elektrisch/laden/chargingstations.bb.json.php

 

Probably they have an "official" feed as well.

I would be happy to hear the opinion of the Team.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "car2go OpenAPI" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to car2go-openap...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 

[Gabor Foldvari]

Hi Nico,

The link I have included was taken from this site:

http://www.amsterdam.nl/parkeren-verkeer/amsterdam-elektrisch/opladen/

The feed is definitely not an open/official service. My intention was to raise awareness in the team members of car2go that Amsterdam city does have the necessary data to provide all the charging stations and their availability.