What happened to the 20" Cassegrain-Newt 9 tears ago?

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Francois-Marie Patorni

Aug 2, 2019, 4:23:49 PM8/2/19
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Dear Santa Fe astromers,


Most of you will remember our failed attempt - 9 years ago - to acquire the 20 inch telescope, all handmade by Joe Horvath (I still have all the emails and correspondence about this). In the end, the telescope was acquired by some other group.


Would you know where is the telescope now?


The reason I am asking is as follows.

I was yesterday in Magdalena, visiting John W. Briggs’ Astronomical Lyceum in Magdalena (the most extraordinary place in the universe for telescope lovers). The occasion was the live-streaming of a workshop on Advanced Telescope Making at the Stellafane Convention.


I mentioned the story of Joe’s scope to John, and told him I will try to find out.


All my best,





From: PATORNI François-Marie <fmpa...@earthlink.net>
Date: Monday, October 25, 2010 at 9:50 AM
To: "capital-city-...@googlegroups.com" <capital-city-...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Free 20" Cassegrain-Newt


4 or 5 years ago I met an old man with failing eyesight and a dying wife on route 14 trying to sell or give away to good home (such as a non-profit or astronomy club) a huge 20inches. It could be the same one. He was a retired Swiss clock maker, I think. He built it entirely himself (mirrors, trusses, clock drive etc., yes, everything) with parts from the Los Alamos black hole.  A truly amazing instrument (I tried it once under the stars, seemed OK but a bit fiddly to operate because it is huge).  The scope sits under a large handbuilt wooden dome and on a massive concrete foundation.


If this is it, it could be an extraordinary club project. Using this scope gives you the feel on being Mr. Hubble and puts you in primordial contact with visual astronomy: star gazing with emotions, a truly visceral experience!  At the time I did not get it because although the old man offered to help me move and set it, it was overwhelming. We would need a crane and a truck to take it, and of course a new place (cowboyshed?).


I highly recommend that you pursue the matter.





François-Marie Patorni




From: capital-city-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:capital-city-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Bohannon
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 9:25 AM
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Subject: Re: Free 20" Cassegrain-Newt


Just called the guy, he's ancient and hard of hearing. He moved to AZ and left this scope and dome out on 14, on his property. He needs it all hauled off. There is a secondary. You need a monitor for viewing. I told him I'd come take a look at it, but would love for someone else to be out there with me that knows more about what we are  seeing. Possible to install at the Cowboy Shack?

On Oct 25, 2010 11:13 AM, "Tony Bonanno Photography" <to...@bonannophoto.com> wrote:

Well, that sure sounds interesting !  I wonder if they meant 20" in length... yet the "you haul" does suggest it might be BIG.

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Peter Lipscomb

Aug 2, 2019, 10:45:58 PM8/2/19
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I believe it ended up out between Glorieta and Pecos. I will dig into emails and see if I can uncover some details. 

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Aug 3, 2019, 2:46:44 AM8/3/19
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I do remember the scope.  We had limited time to possess it because the guy was selling the house and we didn't really have a way to move the scope and the dome as that was part of the deal so it went to someplace like one of the towns down highway 285 and I-25 area, or on further south, even.


Aug 4, 2019, 2:18:03 AM8/4/19
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I could be wrong.  I was wrong once.  Peter is probably correct.

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