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To: "Vik Manuge" <v...@netaccess.co.nz>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:31 PM
Subject: FWD: World University Games - Fencing information and selection
criteria

> Mor information re World student games selection criteria. Please
> distribute
> Katherine
>
>
>>===== Original Message From New Zealand University Fencing Council NZUFC
> <nzufe...@gmail.com> =====
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> Hi everyone,
> Finally the WUG stuff has been sorted out. The selection criteria has been
> set very high (no one in the country currently qualifies as far as I
> know),
> the reasons for this are in Jim's email to be (below). I forwarded our
> opinions to USNZ and they have been able to keep me in the loop during the
> process for which I am very grateful. While the criteria is high, the
> process doesn't have all of that 'at the sole discretion of the selector'
> bullshit in it. Hopefully this means that anyone who meets the criteria
> will
> automatically be selected. If anyone needs help with arranging to fence
> overseas or deciding on which tournaments to fence in I am happy to share
> whatever information I have. I remember thinking that I had no idea how to
> go about organising it when I first started.
> At this point the only students who are able to attempt to get the points
> to
> qualify are Mike Hoskins, Landon Watt, Andreas Sesun, Hassan Kamel and
> Fiona
> Mcdonald (if she is studying, I couldn't remember if she was). So if we
> could all make sure that these people get the information that would be
> really good. There is also the chance that if you have close to 500
> ranking
> points FeNZ might let you fence overseas but you would have to discuss
> this
> with Steve Martin.
> Can you please distribute this information (attached) to your fencers
> anyway
> so they can start planning ahead for the 2009 universiade which will be
> held
> in Belgrade.
> I'm sorry to be getting this information to you so close to the selection
> deadline but FeNZ took 3 months to get back to Jim about this.
> Regards,
> Laura
>
>
> Hi Laura,
>
>
>
> Attached is the final document I have agreed with FeNZ after some lengthy
> discussion.
>
>
>
> As you know USNZ has been keen to tighten standards across all sports
> attending the Games and so the standards are tougher than for previous
> Games. I am happy with this although I appreciate that you and the Council
> would have preferred slightly lower standards.
>
>
>
> Fencing in NZ is currently of a level whereby USNZ gave serious thought as
> to whether a fencing 'team' should be included in the delegation at all;
> i.e.
> there were unlikely to be any fencers who would make our general standard
> of
> needing to make the top 16 of the competition. That said, we have been
> convinced by both the council's thoughts and FeNZ that we should modify
> our
> general standards specifically for fencing to take note of the almost
> senior
> world champs level of the competition. Hence the standards and selection
> information contained in the document.
>
>
>
> I have also, following our emails, had discussion with Steve Martin
> regarding a selection panel. We have agreed that he will remain as the
> sole
> FeNZ selector but with USNZ input as well. Initial selections will then be
> passed to the FeNZ executive for their thoughts before being passed to
> USNZ
> for final ratification. Again, this may not fully meet your requests but
> is
> I believe an appropriate middle ground.
>
>
>
> I'd be grateful if you could pass the attached criteria to all council
> members and to University fencing clubs / members as soon as possible
> please. The information is also available on the USNZ website from
> www.universitysport.org.nz/events/international/world-university-games/nz-team
> -2007/fencing
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
> Jim Ellis
>
> Executive Director
>
> University Sport New Zealand
>
>
>
> Level 3, Tourism & Travel House
>
> 73-89 Boulcott Street
>
> Wellington
>
>
>
> Tel: 04 499 3550
>
> Fax: 04 499 3770
>
>
>
> www.universitysport.org.nz
>
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>
> Hi everyone, Finally the WUG stuff has been sorted out. The selection
> criteria has been set very high (no one in the country currently qualifies
> as
> far as I know), the reasons for this are in Jim's email to be (below). I
> forwarded our
> opinions to USNZ and they have been able to keep me in the loop during the
> process for which I am very grateful. While the criteria is high, the
> process
> doesn't have all of that 'at the sole discretion of the selector' bullshit
> in
> it.
> Hopefully this means that anyone who meets the criteria will automatically
> be
> selected. If anyone needs help with arranging to fence overseas or
> deciding on
> which tournaments to fence in I am happy to share whatever information I
> have.
> I remember
> thinking that I had no idea how to go about organising it when I first
> started.
> At this point the only students who are able to attempt to get the
> points
> to qualify are Mike Hoskins, Landon Watt, Andreas Sesun, Hassan Kamel and
> Fiona Mcdonald (if she is studying, I couldn't remember if she was). So if
> we
> could all make
> sure that these people get the information that would be really good.
> There is
> also the chance that if you have close to 500 ranking points FeNZ might
> let
> you fence overseas but you would have to discuss this with Steve Martin.
> Can you please distribute this information (attached) to your fencers
> anyway so they can start planning ahead for the 2009 universiade which
> will be
> held in Belgrade. I'm sorry to be getting this information to you so
> close
> to the
> selection deadline but FeNZ took 3 months to get back to Jim about this.
> Regards, Laura 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US">
>
> <div>
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Hi Laura,
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Attached is the final document I have agreed with
> FeNZ after some lengthy discussion.
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">As you know USNZ has been keen to tighten standards
> across all sports attending the Games and so the standards are tougher
> than
> for
> previous Games. I am happy with this although I appreciate that you and
> the
> Council would have preferred slightly lower standards.
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Fencing in NZ is currently of a level whereby USNZ
> gave serious thought as to whether a fencing 'team' should be
> included in the delegation at all; i.e. there were unlikely to be any
> fencers
> who would make our general standard of needing to make the top 16 of the
> competition.
> That said, we have been convinced by both the council's thoughts and FeNZ
> that we should modify our general standards specifically for fencing to
> take
> note of the almost senior world champs level of the competition. Hence the
> standards and selection information contained in the
> document.
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">I have also, following our emails, had discussion
> with Steve Martin regarding a selection panel. We have agreed that he will
> remain as the sole FeNZ selector but with USNZ input as well. Initial
> selections will then be passed to the FeNZ executive for their thoughts
> before
> being
> passed to USNZ for final ratification. Again, this may not fully meet your
> requests but is I believe an appropriate middle ground.
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">I'd be grateful if you could pass the attached
> criteria to all council members and to University fencing clubs / members
> as
> soon as possible please. The information is also available on the USNZ
> website
> from <a
> href="http://www.universitysport.org.nz/events/international/world-university-
> games/nz-team-2007/fencing" target="_blank" onclick="return
> top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.universitysport.org.nz/events/inter
> national/world-university-games/nz-team-2007/fencing
> </a>
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Cheers
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">J
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Jim Ellis
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Executive Director lang="EN-GB">
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">University Sport New Zealand lang="EN-GB">
>
> lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Level 3, Tourism & Travel House lang="EN-GB">
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">73-89
> Boulcott Street
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Wellington lang="EN-GB">
>
> lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Tel: 04 499 3550 lang="EN-GB">
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Fax: 04 499 3770 lang="EN-GB">
>
> lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> Arial;" lang="EN-GB"><a href="http://www.universitysport.org.nz"
> target="_blank" onclick="return
> top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.universitysport.org.nz
> </a>
>
> lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> lang="EN-GB"> 
>
> </div>
>
> </div>
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
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