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Desira Norman
Mar 2, 2012, 10:27:46 AM3/2/12
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Lol, I wish we all could get together too, and meet I think it would be so good for all of us!! It's a shame we all probably live crazy miles away....maybe skipe??? Something like that, I'm a little scared thinking about it but why not we're all the same, and no one gets us like we do! Just a suggestion! If anyone is interested? As for exposing ourselves, discretion obviously is expected, but we're all in the same boat!! Get with me if your interested.
D
From: KLN222222 <nash.k...@gmail.com>
To: can't look into other people's eyes <cant-look-into-o...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: crotch looking problem
Looking at crotches, sometimes breasts, lips, or other peoples body
parts has been an extremely embarrassing problem for me. I don't
intend or want to look but somehow cannot seem to not notice. The
embarrassment is so extreme that it becomes frightening to talk to
people.
It is so nice to see other people who have exactly the same thing I
do. Not that I wish anything bad for you but it is comforting to see
other people have exactly the same as I do.
The embarrassment of this thing is terrible!
I have had this for over 40 years. It first started when I think I was
21. I think maybe it started because I was trying to improve my grades
which meant I had to study more and party less. I was not always glad
to see people because I thought they were interferring with my
studying. In retrospect that may have been a big mistake. It is hard
to study once this thing kicks in with a lot of anxiety.
In high school I had a somewhat similar embarrassment problem of being
concerned about sweating. At least that concern has pretty much gone
away.
Over the years, here are a few things that I have found very helpful.
1. We often feel that due to this thing that we make other people very
uncomfortable. We feel bad about that. The truth is that most people
could probably care less. People do notice that we are uncomfortable
for some reason. If I imagine that I am talking to someone like
myself, I really would not mind at all. In fact, our affliction will
make many people feel better about themselves. So we are actually
doing some good! We should at least recognize that and feel a little
better about ourselves and recognize that we really don't bother most
people at all. Probably makes it worse to beat ourselves up about it.
2. I noticed at a party I went to lately that if I simply maintained a
friendly attitude that the thing just went away. I am not sure that
will work consistently but trying to maintain a friendly attitude is
not hard to do and I think it helps quite a bit. I try to just be
ready to smile and listen or say hello.
3. Relaxing does help. The holosync thing is good. I think any kind of
meditation is very good not only for us but for everyone. For one
thing it makes me realize it really isn't that important.
4. I have found something that really helps me. I have been taking
Phenibut lately. Bulk powder. Phenibut is an over the counter
supplement readily available without need for prescription. Man, a
half teaspoon or, when I dare, a teaspoon of that and anxiety is gone
out the window for the next day. I also add some nootropic powder such
as aniracetam, pirecetam, or pramiracetam which I also buy as a bulk
powder. Mix it with orange juice. It is sour but for me very
effective. I can still work fine if not better than normal. I become
much more sociable, and am able to have more fun. I think the main
problem with this thing is it can take the fun out of life.
Phenibut,for me, puts the fun back in.
5. Finally, exercise is very good and relieves stress. I have my own
routine called Peak 8, which can be found on the Internet. However,
any exercise is good several times a week.
After dealing with this for over 40 years, these are my suggestions.
Good luck. It is very nice to find people like myself. I wish I could
meet you and talk about it with you. I would be very curious to see
how you appear so I would know a little better how I come across. My
guess is probably not nearly as bad as we usually think.
D
From: KLN222222 <nash.k...@gmail.com>
To: can't look into other people's eyes <cant-look-into-o...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: crotch looking problem
Looking at crotches, sometimes breasts, lips, or other peoples body
parts has been an extremely embarrassing problem for me. I don't
intend or want to look but somehow cannot seem to not notice. The
embarrassment is so extreme that it becomes frightening to talk to
people.
It is so nice to see other people who have exactly the same thing I
do. Not that I wish anything bad for you but it is comforting to see
other people have exactly the same as I do.
The embarrassment of this thing is terrible!
I have had this for over 40 years. It first started when I think I was
21. I think maybe it started because I was trying to improve my grades
which meant I had to study more and party less. I was not always glad
to see people because I thought they were interferring with my
studying. In retrospect that may have been a big mistake. It is hard
to study once this thing kicks in with a lot of anxiety.
In high school I had a somewhat similar embarrassment problem of being
concerned about sweating. At least that concern has pretty much gone
away.
Over the years, here are a few things that I have found very helpful.
1. We often feel that due to this thing that we make other people very
uncomfortable. We feel bad about that. The truth is that most people
could probably care less. People do notice that we are uncomfortable
for some reason. If I imagine that I am talking to someone like
myself, I really would not mind at all. In fact, our affliction will
make many people feel better about themselves. So we are actually
doing some good! We should at least recognize that and feel a little
better about ourselves and recognize that we really don't bother most
people at all. Probably makes it worse to beat ourselves up about it.
2. I noticed at a party I went to lately that if I simply maintained a
friendly attitude that the thing just went away. I am not sure that
will work consistently but trying to maintain a friendly attitude is
not hard to do and I think it helps quite a bit. I try to just be
ready to smile and listen or say hello.
3. Relaxing does help. The holosync thing is good. I think any kind of
meditation is very good not only for us but for everyone. For one
thing it makes me realize it really isn't that important.
4. I have found something that really helps me. I have been taking
Phenibut lately. Bulk powder. Phenibut is an over the counter
supplement readily available without need for prescription. Man, a
half teaspoon or, when I dare, a teaspoon of that and anxiety is gone
out the window for the next day. I also add some nootropic powder such
as aniracetam, pirecetam, or pramiracetam which I also buy as a bulk
powder. Mix it with orange juice. It is sour but for me very
effective. I can still work fine if not better than normal. I become
much more sociable, and am able to have more fun. I think the main
problem with this thing is it can take the fun out of life.
Phenibut,for me, puts the fun back in.
5. Finally, exercise is very good and relieves stress. I have my own
routine called Peak 8, which can be found on the Internet. However,
any exercise is good several times a week.
After dealing with this for over 40 years, these are my suggestions.
Good luck. It is very nice to find people like myself. I wish I could
meet you and talk about it with you. I would be very curious to see
how you appear so I would know a little better how I come across. My
guess is probably not nearly as bad as we usually think.
Shais Anees
Mar 12, 2012, 7:43:28 PM3/12/12
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Yeah, children don't notice it - it's very nice but they feel uncomfortable somehow.
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On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Kenneth Nash <nash.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Desira,I am in Houston. I would not mind meeting. Like you say we are probably spread out and it is not possible. Also discretion is important but it would be interesting to meet someone who has the same thing going on just to see what the interaction is like.Sorry to take so long getting back to you. I have been trying to finish some things up at work.So you are a woman with this problem? If so, that is interesting. Do you feel awkward/embarrassed with other men? Or just women? And also children? I think children don’t really notice anything but I guess I normally do not see children.It seems like people are more aware of your problem from what I am getting from your postings. No one actually says anything to me, usually. One guy asked if I was gay but he did not care. I have had several job interviews where I am sure it was a factor. On the other hand, I have managed to get jobs as well. Some people don’t really care but I think they probably notice.I have told my wife. Like your husband, she does not really understand. For that matter, I don’t really understand either. But she really does not find it a problem at all. She has probably forgotten I told her. Actually she is the only one I never have the problem with. I am very comfortable with her. Do you feel comfortable with your husband?My wife is very outgoing while I am probably somewhat introverted but I try to be friendly.Regards, Ken
JJ AM
Mar 13, 2012, 6:12:57 AM3/13/12
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I'm glad to see someone else using Phenibut with Piracetam. I've been using bulk Phenibut and Neuro Boost Piracetam, from Smart Drugs for Thought (a Nootropic Company based in Houston, Tx), to improve social skills and to relieve sources of anxiety as well. I've also met another guy who has been presenting better speech skills at meetings by using Neuro Boost.
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