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ConsЯcons
Jan 28, 2013, 10:29:12 PM1/28/13
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Eric Schild aka Eric© wrote: On 1/28/2013 7:57 PM
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> Now the Toronto Sun has got into the Media Party sport of telling Torontonians
> that people they elected ought to get lost.
Except for fat Rob Ford, that is. Him they like.
> http://www.torontosun.com/2013/01/28/ana-bailao-has-violated-her-constituents-
> trust-and-should-resign
> "But she should resign. She is now a convicted drunk driver - a criminal
> offence - and has violated the trust given to her by her constituents.
>
> There is no wiggle room on this one."
Yeah, Rob Ford was convicted of drunk driving and look how far HE's been
allowed to climb. The Toronto Sun sounds as if it hates women as much
as some posters to these newsgroups do.
This particular 'drunk driver' decided to plead guilty - because she has
a conscience and a sense of morality. Fat boy Ford has neither.
> Really? How is this a breach of the public's trust?
She's in a position of leadership - and representation of voters. If she
can't abide by laws - just as Rob Ford can't - she shouldn't remain in a
position of leadership. Just as Ford should not.
But if Ford is allowed to remain . . . who would want to see this more
moral, more conscience-driven councillor step down?
>
> Now the Toronto Sun has got into the Media Party sport of telling Torontonians
> that people they elected ought to get lost.
Except for fat Rob Ford, that is. Him they like.
> http://www.torontosun.com/2013/01/28/ana-bailao-has-violated-her-constituents-
> trust-and-should-resign
> "But she should resign. She is now a convicted drunk driver - a criminal
> offence - and has violated the trust given to her by her constituents.
>
> There is no wiggle room on this one."
Yeah, Rob Ford was convicted of drunk driving and look how far HE's been
allowed to climb. The Toronto Sun sounds as if it hates women as much
as some posters to these newsgroups do.
This particular 'drunk driver' decided to plead guilty - because she has
a conscience and a sense of morality. Fat boy Ford has neither.
> Really? How is this a breach of the public's trust?
She's in a position of leadership - and representation of voters. If she
can't abide by laws - just as Rob Ford can't - she shouldn't remain in a
position of leadership. Just as Ford should not.
But if Ford is allowed to remain . . . who would want to see this more
moral, more conscience-driven councillor step down?
Dhu on Gate
Jan 28, 2013, 11:14:52 PM1/28/13
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which are just a projection of the Law Society's "special interest".
Dhu
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Ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco.
M.I.Wakefield
Jan 28, 2013, 11:33:08 PM1/28/13
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"Ericￜ" wrote in message
news:MPG.2b70da4d9...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Now the Toronto Sun has got into the Media Party sport of telling
> Torontonians
> that people they elected ought to get lost.
>
> http://www.torontosun.com/2013/01/28/ana-bailao-has-violated-her-constituents-
> trust-and-should-resign or: http://tinyurl.com/arywc4l
should resign?
Should Bailou had quit if she'd been involved in an accident? How about if
someone was seriously injured?
Of course, even if she quits, she's free to run again, and an election
washes away all sins.
news:MPG.2b70da4d9...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Now the Toronto Sun has got into the Media Party sport of telling
> Torontonians
> that people they elected ought to get lost.
>
> trust-and-should-resign or: http://tinyurl.com/arywc4l
>
> "But she should resign. She is now a convicted drunk driver - a criminal
> offence - and has violated the trust given to her by her constituents.
>
> There is no wiggle room on this one."
>
> "But she should resign. She is now a convicted drunk driver - a criminal
> offence - and has violated the trust given to her by her constituents.
>
> There is no wiggle room on this one."
>
> Really? How is this a breach of the public's trust?
How serious a crime does a politician need to be convicted of before they
should resign?
Should Bailou had quit if she'd been involved in an accident? How about if
someone was seriously injured?
Of course, even if she quits, she's free to run again, and an election
washes away all sins.
Barry Bruyea
Jan 29, 2013, 6:39:04 AM1/29/13
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:33:08 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
wrote:
>"Eric©" wrote in message
Meanwhile, a former liberal M.P. and cabinet minister still sits in
the mayor's chair in London, Ontario facing three criminal charges and
Karen says nothing. What a shocker.
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>"Eric©" wrote in message
the mayor's chair in London, Ontario facing three criminal charges and
Karen says nothing. What a shocker.
Dave Smith
Jan 29, 2013, 1:28:59 PM1/29/13
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On 28/01/2013 9:57 PM, Eric© wrote:
>
>
> Now the Toronto Sun has got into the Media Party sport of telling Torontonians
> that people they elected ought to get lost.
>
> http://www.torontosun.com/2013/01/28/ana-bailao-has-violated-her-constituents-
> trust-and-should-resign or: http://tinyurl.com/arywc4l
>
> "But she should resign. She is now a convicted drunk driver - a criminal
> offence - and has violated the trust given to her by her constituents.
>
> There is no wiggle room on this one."
>
> Really? How is this a breach of the public's trust?
>
She was convicted of blowing over the legal limit. That is a somewhat
>
>
> Now the Toronto Sun has got into the Media Party sport of telling Torontonians
> that people they elected ought to get lost.
>
> http://www.torontosun.com/2013/01/28/ana-bailao-has-violated-her-constituents-
> trust-and-should-resign or: http://tinyurl.com/arywc4l
>
> "But she should resign. She is now a convicted drunk driver - a criminal
> offence - and has violated the trust given to her by her constituents.
>
> There is no wiggle room on this one."
>
> Really? How is this a breach of the public's trust?
>
arbitrary level that was imposed to make it easier to convict people for
impaired driving without having to prove that they were impaired to the
point that they were a hazard on the road.
Frankly, what concerns me more is that she was out partying with
lobbyists. I doubt that they were partying at Bailou's personal expense
so that means that either the city was paying ...doubtful, or the
lobbyists were paying to get her lubricated enough to get a favourable
decision from her.
Barry Bruyea
Jan 29, 2013, 5:07:33 PM1/29/13
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ConsЯcons
Jan 29, 2013, 7:09:56 PM1/29/13
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On 1/28/2013 9:33 PM, M.I.Wakefield wrote:
> How serious a crime does a politician need to be convicted of before
> they should resign?
>
> Should Bailou had quit if she'd been involved in an accident? How
> about if someone was seriously injured?
>
> Of course, even if she quits, she's free to run again, and an election
> washes away all sins.
You just don't like women - period. There have been many cops who have
> How serious a crime does a politician need to be convicted of before
> they should resign?
>
> Should Bailou had quit if she'd been involved in an accident? How
> about if someone was seriously injured?
>
> Of course, even if she quits, she's free to run again, and an election
> washes away all sins.
been caught drunk driving. How many of them ended up losing their
jobs? And cops are in supposed to be the epitome of respecters of the law.
M.I.Wakefield
Jan 29, 2013, 8:10:27 PM1/29/13
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"ConsЯcons" wrote in message news:xxZNs.4186$Hq1....@newsfe23.iad...
> On 1/28/2013 9:33 PM, M.I.Wakefield wrote:
> > How serious a crime does a politician need to be convicted of before
> > they should resign?
> >
> > Should Bailou had quit if she'd been involved in an accident? How about
> > if someone was seriously injured?
> >
> > Of course, even if she quits, she's free to run again, and an election
> > washes away all sins.
> You just don't like women - period.
Well, that was a non sequitur.
Especially when combined with this:
"... most who hang out in can.politics do it for the POLITICS."
- ar231 (aka ConsЯcons)
> On 1/28/2013 9:33 PM, M.I.Wakefield wrote:
> > How serious a crime does a politician need to be convicted of before
> > they should resign?
> >
> > Should Bailou had quit if she'd been involved in an accident? How about
> > if someone was seriously injured?
> >
> > Of course, even if she quits, she's free to run again, and an election
> > washes away all sins.
> You just don't like women - period.
Especially when combined with this:
"... most who hang out in can.politics do it for the POLITICS."
- ar231 (aka ConsЯcons)
Chom Noamsky
Jan 30, 2013, 2:38:24 AM1/30/13
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On 1/28/2013 6:57 PM, Eric© wrote:
>
>
> Now the Toronto Sun has got into the Media Party sport of telling Torontonians
> that people they elected ought to get lost.
>
> http://www.torontosun.com/2013/01/28/ana-bailao-has-violated-her-constituents-
> trust-and-should-resign or: http://tinyurl.com/arywc4l
>
> "But she should resign. She is now a convicted drunk driver - a criminal
> offence - and has violated the trust given to her by her constituents.
>
> There is no wiggle room on this one."
>
> Really? How is this a breach of the public's trust?
It shows poor judgement for an elected public rep, for sure, but going
>
>
> Now the Toronto Sun has got into the Media Party sport of telling Torontonians
> that people they elected ought to get lost.
>
> http://www.torontosun.com/2013/01/28/ana-bailao-has-violated-her-constituents-
> trust-and-should-resign or: http://tinyurl.com/arywc4l
>
> "But she should resign. She is now a convicted drunk driver - a criminal
> offence - and has violated the trust given to her by her constituents.
>
> There is no wiggle room on this one."
>
> Really? How is this a breach of the public's trust?
by the Gordon Campbell example a drunk-driving conviction generally
doesn't seem to be a resigning offense.
However, if she was on the board of directors for M.A.D.D. it might be a
different matter...
Chom Noamsky
Jan 30, 2013, 2:51:49 AM1/30/13
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civic-minded councilors are known to do...
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