When something commands no more economic value, the suppliers stop
the
supply of what is needed to this lost demand. Most Tibetans now
realize that in order to get ahead in life, they have to work hard
rather than eat lama shit. Even DL has to work hard, if he wants
to get ahead. DL visits a western doctor when he is sick; he does
not
eat lama shit for the healing purpose.
The people working for CIA's Tibet independence department also have
to work hard, as the down-sizing is going on in that department in
response to the US financial crisis.
Tibet indpendence will cease to exist as a topic in all Tibet related
ngs but instead commercials will take over!!!
Dalai Lama represents the True Tibetan s ,
when Tibet is under Chinese occupation just like
prince Norodom Sihanouk was representing the Khmer people
during the Vietnamese Occupation of Cambodia .
China may be working wonders in China. But Tibet is Tibet. China has a
terrible stain on its reputation. A reputation of oppression and
denial of allowing people to live as they wish.
If you must force a population to live your way - you are essentially
a fascist.
Leave Tibet!
Tibetans are as Chinese as the Hawaiians are Americans. You don't
really know what you are talking about.
Beijing is making Tibetans live the way the Washington is making
Hawaiians leave.
Go back to your dumbed down high school for a beer.
Which dumbed down school did you graduate from?
> > really know what you are talking about.- 隐藏被引用文字 -
>
> - 显示引用的文字 -
You mean the high school where I learned to think beyond rote.
The high school that taught you Hawaii is not a part of the US and
that Hawaiians
are not Americans....and that all Americans should leave Hawaii
leaving the Hawaiians
free to do surfing at government expenses...
does that mean China and Tibnet belongs to India ?
Then what spread from the rest of Tibet to make Tibet a province of
China?
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Free Tibet, end Communist rule. Death to the dictators!
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You don't. The Tibetan people want to be freed but thanks to evil Communist
bastards that isn't going to happen.
There are no communist bastards there but only hard core right wing
capitalists.
Your knowledge is outdated by many years and this was why you
participated into
the demonstration when nothing else was more interesting to do.
It is already done...
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Try telling that to the Chinese or any other government who calls its self
Communist.
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Not as long as a single Communist dictatorship is in power.
they don't need to be told...they know
there is no dictatorship in China. it is called MERITOCRACY.
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The issue of Tibet independence is now a lost cause, for the simple
> reason that it commands no marketable economic value.
>
> When something commands no more economic value, the suppliers stop
> the
> supply of what is needed to this lost demand.
what from tibet's demand for preserving its own identity is it that china
has supplied besides suppression...?...
China has supplied to Tibet what it has supplied to the other
provinces.
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > ngs but instead commercials will take over!!!- ??????? -
>>
>> - ??????? -
>
> China has supplied to Tibet what it has supplied to the other
> provinces.
hmmmm.... no answer to my question... no surprise... ok... let's continue
with your game of dodge... with respect to suppression of identity... are
there other former nations in china that are now provinces who want
autonomous rule....?...
Define what a suppression of identity is first and demonstrate it is
going on in Tibet
before going on to make any further
generalizations. Don't simply write something down and expect what is
written down as the
basis upon which further argument can be built.
Who are the people who want autonomous rule? How to find that out? Is
what these people
want standing in the way of what others want? Should these people be
given what they want
and others who don't want what these people want give way? The only
way to answer these questions
is who has the authority, not who has to say what they want to say.
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> autonomous rule....?...- ??????? -
>>
>> - ??????? -
>
> Define what a suppression of identity is first and demonstrate it is
> going on in Tibet
> before going on to make any further
> generalizations. Don't simply write something down and expect what is
> written down as the
> basis upon which further argument can be built.
the elimination of independence is a suppression of identity... it is in
fact, a cultural genocide... why do you celebrate this loss with such a
thread...?... are you such an evil sadist that you love crushing entire
cultures out of existence or are you so embittered by life that the only
solace left you is greater misery in the eyes of others....?...
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> autonomous rule....?...- ??????? -
>>
>> - ??????? -
>
> Who are the people who want autonomous rule?
why ask such a question when you answered it yourself by beginning this
thread....?...
> How to find that out? Is
> what these people
> want standing in the way of what others want?
how does being independent stand in the way of what others want unless what
others want is what they have been profiting from by stealing...?...
> Should these people be
> given what they want
how do you give someone their identity...?...
> and others who don't want what these people want give way?
what is being given away...?...
> The only
> way to answer these questions
> is who has the authority, not who has to say what they want to say.
the ultimate authority is always identity... the context of "authority" in
your sentence is a misrepresentation of force as authority...
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Exactly to them they are Communist and are acting in the name of Communism.
They are pure evil and tyrannical.
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Try telling that to people who are sent to concentration camps. If that's
the system you want for Australia I will let that happen over my dead body.
The ultimate authority that decides identity is not identity, as
identity is always in the process of changing.
Look at the identity of N America, Canada and New Zealand...and Hawaii
On the contrary, the elimination of independence in this case is peace
and prosperity.
and it is cultural harmony. why do you incite violence? why are you
such an evil sadist that
you love to create chaos....yours are empty words...that are far from
being real. Being real is what
you want to get, not to get real with your pc, of course.
No, they are capitalists and are acting in the name of Meritocracy.
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well its still tyranny no matter who they are.
> The issue of Tibet independence is now a lost cause, for the simple
> reason that it commands no marketable economic value.
Bull Shit. The only reason Bejing went in there to begin with
had to do with it's economic value.
Tibet's independence is not a lost cause, just a stupid one: the
interests of Tibet's population are not best served by a Feudal
Theocracy, and as a landlocked territory it has limited economic
prospects.
Bejing needs to tread very carefully in Tibet lest it become a
nightmare, sowing dragon's teeth far beyond it's borders.
Dhu
>
> When something commands no more economic value, the suppliers stop the
> supply of what is needed to this lost demand. Most Tibetans now realize
> that in order to get ahead in life, they have to work hard rather than
> eat lama shit. Even DL has to work hard, if he wants to get ahead. DL
> visits a western doctor when he is sick; he does not
> eat lama shit for the healing purpose.
>
> The people working for CIA's Tibet independence department also have to
> work hard, as the down-sizing is going on in that department in response
> to the US financial crisis.
>
> Tibet indpendence will cease to exist as a topic in all Tibet related
> ngs but instead commercials will take over!!!
--
Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu
I think the correct term is a Mandarinate. Meritocracy must
be judged in historical perspective.
Dhu
Rubbish.
Tibet will never be forgotten. Oppressors always get kicked out -
eventually.
Free Tibet is as lost as its supporters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twHzXN3kNTs
Most of its supporter in the west are themselves lost and they will
jump form one remote cause to another trying to find themselves.Die-
hard free Tibet supporters outside of China, in contrast, are racists
not different from anti-colored people white supremacists.
>
>
>
>
>
> > When something commands no more economic value, the suppliers stop
> > the
> > supply of what is needed to this lost demand. Most Tibetans now
> > realize that in order to get ahead in life, they have to work hard
> > rather than eat lama shit. Even DL has to work hard, if he wants
> > to get ahead. DL visits a western doctor when he is sick; he does
> > not
> > eat lama shit for the healing purpose.
>
> > The people working for CIA's Tibet independence department also have
> > to work hard, as the down-sizing is going on in that department in
> > response to the US financial crisis.
>
> > Tibet indpendence will cease to exist as a topic in all Tibet related
> > ngs but instead commercials will take over!!!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
How true
Too bad it's Chinese-imposed dictatorship
Maybe for the Chinese who moved into Tibet since the takeover
The Tibetans are not so prosperous
# and it is cultural harmony.
Not when it's imposed with a gun
# why do you incite violence?
# why are you such an evil sadist that you love to create chaos....
China started the violence when it invaded China
You are like a rapist accusing his victim of being violent for resisting the
rape
# yours are empty words...
ANd you words are a litany of lies
# that are far from being real.
See above
# Being real is what you want to get, not to get real with your pc, of
course
So how much do you get paid to be a shill for the Chinese Dictators ?
# Who are the people who want autonomous rule?
The Tibetans who want the Chinese to leave them alon
# How to find that out?
# Is what these people want standing in the way of what others want?
Yes, it's uppsetting the Chinese invaders who don't like to be called what
they really are
# Should these people be given what they want and others who don't want what
these people want give way?
Isn't that how the CHinese justify raping Tibet ?
# The only way to answer these questions is who has the authority, not who
has to say what they want to say.
Riiiigtht
So you basically feel that the rapist is the one who should be listened to
instead of his victim ?
How much are you paid to spread these lies and propaganda ?
And this double-speak is supposed to mean something ?
This is just snake oil from a paid shill of the Chinese dictators in Tibet
#
# Look at the identity of N America, Canada and New Zealand...and Hawaii
And ?
...if it works...
Have you examined the statistics related to the growth of business
ownership amongst the natives? How do you know that?
>
> # and it is cultural harmony.
>
> Not when it's imposed with a gun
>
> # why do you incite violence?
> # why are you such an evil sadist that you love to create chaos....
> China started the violence when it invaded China
> You are like a rapist accusing his victim of being violent for resisting the
> rape
>
> # yours are empty words...
>
> ANd you words are a litany of lies
>
> # that are far from being real.
>
> See above
>
> # Being real is what you want to get, not to get real with your pc, of
> course
>
> So how much do you get paid to be a shill for the Chinese Dictators ?- 隐藏被引用文字 -
>
> - 显示引用的文字 -
> Tibet's independence is not a lost cause, just a stupid one: the
> interests of Tibet's population are not best served by a Feudal
> Theocracy, and as a landlocked territory it has limited economic
> prospects.
Then it should remain peaceful as it is...reciting mantra everyday as
a pastime at the expense of the government and the taxpayers from the
rest of the country.
>
> Bejing needs to tread very carefully in Tibet lest it become a
> nightmare, sowing dragon's teeth far beyond it's borders.
>
You seem to have better solutions than those who rule, albeit you are
thousands of miles away.
Yes, that was why DL and his theocratic junkies were kicked out...
>
>
>
>
>
> > When something commands no more economic value, the suppliers stop
> > the
> > supply of what is needed to this lost demand. Most Tibetans now
> > realize that in order to get ahead in life, they have to work hard
> > rather than eat lama shit. Even DL has to work hard, if he wants
> > to get ahead. DL visits a western doctor when he is sick; he does
> > not
> > eat lama shit for the healing purpose.
>
> > The people working for CIA's Tibet independence department also have
> > to work hard, as the down-sizing is going on in that department in
> > response to the US financial crisis.
>
> > Tibet indpendence will cease to exist as a topic in all Tibet related
> > ngs but instead commercials will take over!!!- 隐藏被引用文字 -
>
> - 显示引用的文字 -
Well, what you say is empty words no matter what you say.
The thing is, those "supporters" don't even know what they are
supporting
They are just like the wilderbeasts in Africa, do everything by
copying what others do, saying things that others have said
How many of them know where Tibet is? How many even know what kind of
people are those "lamas"?
Funny thing is, they themselves are the one who opposed the oppressive
ruling class, and if they are Tibetans themselves, they would have
risen up in dethroning the lamas
But then, as I said, those so-called "supporters" don't even know what
they are doing
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On the contrary, the elimination of independence in this case is peace
> and prosperity.
> and it is cultural harmony. why do you incite violence? why are you
> such an evil sadist that
> you love to create chaos....yours are empty words...that are far from
> being real. Being real is what
> you want to get, not to get real with your pc, of course.
on the contrary... the elimination of independence is cultural genocide and
the only harmony experienced is that of the oppressor having eliminated
resistance toward their encroachment... there is nothing peaceful about your
country's actions... their actions and your words are acts of evil... you
preach violence against another culture and instead of being honest about
it, you act as if accusing others who criticize such actions of the crimes
you perpetuate....
"being real" is not something you apparently understand...
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> your sentence is a misrepresentation of force as authority...- ??????? -
>>
>> - ??????? -
>
> The ultimate authority that decides identity is not identity, as
> identity is always in the process of changing.
> Look at the identity of N America, Canada and New Zealand...and Hawaii
the ultimate authority of identity is the one to whom that identity
belongs... and it is up to that individual to determine how that identity
changes... when another imposes their identity upon that entity, then they
are committing an act of evil because they are taking away the individual
right to self-identity...
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 9?28?, ??8?43?, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI...@HotMail.com> wrote:
>> <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7223963b-af73-4e2b...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>> On 9?28?, ??1?27?, "Seon" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:41e01bd5-c180-4eb0...@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > On 9?28?, ??12?22?, "Seon" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >>news:d5033b1b-b518-419d...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > >> > The issue of Tibet independence is now a lost cause, for the
>> > >> > simple
>> > >> > reason that it commands no marketable economic value.
>>
>> > >> > When something commands no more economic value, the suppliers stop
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > supply of what is needed to this lost demand. Most Tibetans now
>> > >> > realize that in order to get ahead in life, they have to work hard
>> > >> > rather than eat lama shit. Even DL has to work hard, if he wants
>> > >> > to get ahead. DL visits a western doctor when he is sick; he does
>> > >> > not
>> > >> > eat lama shit for the healing purpose.
>>
>> > >> > The people working for CIA's Tibet independence department also
>> > >> > have
>> > >> > to work hard, as the down-sizing is going on in that department in
>> > >> > response to the US financial crisis.
>>
>> > >> > Tibet indpendence will cease to exist as a topic in all Tibet
>> > >> > related
>> > >> > ngs but instead commercials will take over!!!
>>
>> > >> Free Tibet, end Communist rule. Death to the dictators!- ??????? -
>>
>> > >> - ??????? -
>>
>> > > It is already done...
>>
>> > Not as long as a single Communist dictatorship is in power.- ??????? -
>>
>> > - ??????? -
>>
>> #
>> # there is no dictatorship in China. it is called MERITOCRACY.
>> #
>> They can call it what they want
>> It's a lie
>> China is a dictatorship trying to look like something else.- ??????? -
>>
>> - ??????? -
>
> ...if it works...
ahhhh... so you support genocide as long as it successfully wipes out
another culture....
You say that a lot don't you? 'Empty words'. If ever there was an
example of empty words it is the expression 'empty words'.
Why don't you just shut your fascist mouth Francis?
You are not exaggerating:
G]enocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to
destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or
religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated
to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007043
Why don't you shut up your rectum, you fucking communist?
You do NOT have anything to say now. Simply shut up and stand aside
and you will get more respect.
Yes, throw up a bunch of words to camouflage your retreat....
Chiang Kai Shek was a descendant of Tibetans, so i was told.
And you are a racist???
==
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> right to self-identity...- ??????? -
>>
>> - ??????? -
>
> Yes, throw up a bunch of words to camouflage your retreat....
hmmm... apparently, I didn't dumb down my words enough for you...
okay... using your own words, "identity is always in the process of
changing"... you have avoided addressing the issue you characterized as the
"ultimate authority that decides identity"...
specify who has sovereignty over your identity... you or a foreign
nation...?...
here... let's dumb this down even more.... who decides who you are...?...
you or the invaders to your land...?...
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> another culture....- ??????? -
>>
>> - ??????? -
>
> You do NOT have anything to say now. Simply shut up and stand aside
> and you will get more respect.
ahhh... I see... you have no defense against what you now see in yourself to
be an entirely corrupt and contemptible aspect of your nature and instead of
owning up to it, you demand the source of your embarrassment be silent...
typical mentality of a boorish thug of poor breeding and education...
that's okay poontang, we all already know you're just a dumb and embittered
peasant who seeks to ingratiate himself like a dog to his masters by spewing
the party line in these forums... do you get a few extra slices of bread
when you submit your printouts....?....
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>>On 9?28?, ??5?33?, B J Foster <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> fyfp...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> > The issue of Tibet independence is now a lost cause, for the simple
>>> > reason that it commands no marketable economic value.
>>>
>>> Rubbish.
>>>
>>> Tibet will never be forgotten. Oppressors always get kicked out -
>>> eventually.
>>
>>Yes, that was why DL and his theocratic junkies were kicked out...
>
> Why do Chinese soldiers shoot and kill innocent, unarmed young women
> as they try to escape to India? How can the CCP justify that? You're
> paid by them. Come on. Fess up. What is it about Tibet that the CCP
> can't let the outside world know? Why is it that Tibetan people think
> their life is so shitful in Tibet that they have to leave and run the
> risk of being killed just for gaining a very uncomfortable (to say the
> least) existence in D/sala? If Tibet is the way you say then that
> wouldn't be happening. You know what? You know shit.
>>>
He's probably never been there and just a fascist asshole who hates
Australia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > When something commands no more economic value, the suppliers stop
>>> > the
>>> > supply of what is needed to this lost demand. Most Tibetans now
>>> > realize that in order to get ahead in life, they have to work hard
>>> > rather than eat lama shit. Even DL has to work hard, if he wants
>>> > to get ahead. DL visits a western doctor when he is sick; he does
>>> > not
>>> > eat lama shit for the healing purpose.
>>>
>>> > The people working for CIA's Tibet independence department also have
>>> > to work hard, as the down-sizing is going on in that department in
>>> > response to the US financial crisis.
>>>
>>> > Tibet indpendence will cease to exist as a topic in all Tibet related
>>> > ngs but instead commercials will take over!!!- ??????? -
>>>
>>> - ??????? -
>
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<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You're the one who supports China you commie. Your the commie who wants to
take away our right to vote. Go back to North Korea and let the grown up's
talk commie.
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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So you don't think forcing women who have more then 1 children to have an
abortion (or killing babies) is tyranny or arresting people who speak out
against the government is tyrannical or banning religions is tyrannical?
"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote in message
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>
> <fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 9月28日, 下午1时27分, "Seon" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:41e01bd5-c180-4eb0...@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 9月28日, 下午12时22分, "Seon" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:d5033b1b-b518-419d...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > The issue of Tibet independence is now a lost cause, for the simple
>> >> > reason that it commands no marketable economic value.
>>
>> >> > When something commands no more economic value, the suppliers stop
>> >> > the
>> >> > supply of what is needed to this lost demand. Most Tibetans now
>> >> > realize that in order to get ahead in life, they have to work hard
>> >> > rather than eat lama shit. Even DL has to work hard, if he wants
>> >> > to get ahead. DL visits a western doctor when he is sick; he does
>> >> > not
>> >> > eat lama shit for the healing purpose.
>>
>> >> > The people working for CIA's Tibet independence department also have
>> >> > to work hard, as the down-sizing is going on in that department in
>> >> > response to the US financial crisis.
>>
>> >> > Tibet indpendence will cease to exist as a topic in all Tibet
>> >> > related
>> >> > ngs but instead commercials will take over!!!
>>
>> >> Free Tibet, end Communist rule. Death to the dictators!- 隐藏被引用文字 -
>>
>> >> - 显示引用的文字 -
>>
>> > It is already done...
>>
>> Not as long as a single Communist dictatorship is in power.- 隐藏被引用文字 -
>>
>> - 显示引用的文字 -
> #
> # there is no dictatorship in China. it is called MERITOCRACY.
> #
> They can call it what they want
> It's a lie
> China is a dictatorship trying to look like something else.
>
>
God damn it I agree with you! Ahhhhh.
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> China is a dictatorship trying to look like something else.-
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>
> ...if it works...
You really are a Nazi aren't you?
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> <fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 9月28日, 下午2时18分, "klunk" <kl...@theothershoo.org> wrote:
>> <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:d5033b1b-b518-419d...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > The issue of Tibet independence is now a lost cause, for the simple
>> > reason that it commands no marketable economic value.
>>
>> > When something commands no more economic value, the suppliers stop
>> > the
>> > supply of what is needed to this lost demand.
>>
>> what from tibet's demand for preserving its own identity is it that china
>> has supplied besides suppression...?...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Most Tibetans now
>> > realize that in order to get ahead in life, they have to work hard
>> > rather than eat lama shit. Even DL has to work hard, if he wants
>> > to get ahead. DL visits a western doctor when he is sick; he does
>> > not
>> > eat lama shit for the healing purpose.
>>
>> > The people working for CIA's Tibet independence department also have
>> > to work hard, as the down-sizing is going on in that department in
>> > response to the US financial crisis.
>>
>> > Tibet indpendence will cease to exist as a topic in all Tibet related
>> > ngs but instead commercials will take over!!!- 隐藏被引用文字 -
>>
>> - 显示引用的文字 -
> #
> # China has supplied to Tibet what it has supplied to the other
> # provinces.
>
> How true
> Too bad it's Chinese-imposed dictatorship
Which the fascist supports.
Supporting China does not mean supporting communism. Communism is by
definition trying to achieve socialism
through violent means. You obviously did not learn this in that
dumbed down school.
Is Washington a foreign power to Hawaii?
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> you or the invaders to your land...?...- ??????? -
>>
>> - ??????? -
>
> Is Washington a foreign power to Hawaii?
is that supposed to be a counter-argument...?...
if you think there's some form of socio-political equity between tibet and
hawaii which correlates into some form of non-point you're apparently
incapable of making, then I'd suggest you revisit your elementary school and
complain about how badly you've been prepared with knowledge of the world...
...although, I suppose it's understandable for an embittered and
under-educated peasant like you to be unaware of subtle distinctions between
usurped identity and self-determined identity...
come back when you've managed to improve your education beyond the
elementary level and I'll be happy to educate you further on the subtle
nuances of your particularly evil dysfunction.... ;-)
Who are they and how to find out? Why does the PRC not allow Tibetans
and Uighurs to hold a referendum on whether or not they want to stay
in China? Canada to its credit allows Quebec to hold referendums
(1980, 1995) on whether or not to stay in Canada. So it's simple, if
Tibetans and Uighurs are so well treated as you say, surely they will
vote to stay in the PRC. So why not allow them this option? What is
the CCP afraid of?
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The system you are suggesting smells a lot like Communism. Or at the least
fascism. You should end your posts with zig heil.
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation
Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en
Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
Judicial corruption exposes institutionalised racism that reaches all
up the way to the High Court Australia. An officer of the Royal
Australian Navy is left without medical care as he was harassed
victimised and unlawfully discriminated against as he exposed unsafe
working conditions in the Navy, that put public safety and lives at
risk.
He approached HREOC with a complaint under HREOCA1986 and RDA1975;
what he found was institutional racism, coverup and perverting of the
Human Rights Act, violating Australia's obligation under International
Treaties ICCPR and ICERD. The president of HREOC, John von Doussa
violated HREOAC1986 in refusing to investigate his White mates, and
then refusing to terminate the complaints so that it can be heard in
the Federal Courts.
More institutionalised racism occurred at the Administrative Appeals
Tribunal, where Senior Member John Handley proceeded to pervert
justice by fabricating documents and evidence.
Questions of Law will be asked of the validity of the HREOAC1986 and
RDA1975 as the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee,
chair and co-chair, Senators Barnett and Crossin indicated that
Inquiries into Access to Justice, Australia's Legal System and the
Role of Judges should not be of assistance to Australian Citizens of
ethnic backgrounds.
Institutionalised racism and corruption in the Judiciary have made
political prisoners of Aborigines such as Lex Wotton, dogwhistled to
corrupt police leading to Black Deaths in Custody, putting public
health and safety in jeopardy, and allowing a four (4) year old
Aborigines girl to die after having been refused medical care at a Qld
hospital, political assasination of Phuong Ngo, political assasination
of Frederick Toben.
They set them up to fail and when they fail, they call them inferior
and lock them up.
Racist and corrupt White nation inciting racial hatred and Black
Deaths in Custody, reduce the Black Man to fight for his basic human
rights
The High Court Australia has been labelled racist by Justice Michael
Kirby. The Australian Michael Pelley called the High Court racist and
hyprocrites. They are so afraid of the HREOCA1986, because even the
High Court Australia must obey an Act of Parliament.
Corrupt and racist Judiciary will fight with all its might and means
to deprive us of HREOCA1986, to deprive us of Habeas Corpus as we file
such writs for Lex Wotton, Phuong Ngo, and Frederick Toben. We might
not like their politics or ethnicity, but their loss of judicial
independence and fairness, and their experience of judicial abuse of
discretionary powers will greatly affect us all now and in the future.
Until Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee and Australian
Parliament secede from ICCPR and ICERD, even the High Court must obey
HREOCA1986. We must fight for HREOCA1986 even if the Corrupt changes
its name, because it is the only Bill of Rights we have."
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/
> If Institutionalised Racism kills, High Court Australia criminal? You
>bet
>
>http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2137/75221326522959327217259.jpg
>
>
>
>http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/61/logohreoc.gif
>
><img src="http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/61/logohreoc.gif">
>
Request that UN Committee on Elimination of Racism to prosecute WHITE
Racist Nations, incl Australia
Request that UN Committee on Elimination of Racism to prosecute WHITE
Racist Nations, incl Australia
Cant the Whiteman be trusted with a signed Treaty?
Come join this petition, and save American Taxpayers' dollars on
useless UN rorts that only go to fuel terrorism through their
hypocrisy and abuse of UN process, and the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights.
<a
href="http://www.change.org/actions/view/
request_that_un_committee_on_elimination_of_racism_to_prosecute_white_racist_nations_incl_australia">change.org</
a>
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a>
<blockquote>
The Hypocrisy of the UN Human Rights Bodies continues unabated. It
seems like the western world can do no wrong, and western countries
like Australia can ride rougshod over UN Human Rights Treaties, and at
the same time can dictate to less developed nations.
REF: G/SO AUS 215/4
http://rapidshare.com/files/101392885/OHCHR.23February2008.web.pdf.html
1. Communication to: Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human
Rights on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers
2. Submitted for consideration under International Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
Kangaroo Court of Australia
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
Institutionalised Discrimination and Corruption in Australian Legal
System
Universal declaration on human rights
come join my group and help assist the OHCHR uphold its human rights
mandates
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10385581643
Below and an account of Institutionalised racism within in the
Australian Judicial System and the High Court Australia:
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
NB. i need the email address of the UN Secretary General
Torsten Schackel
Acting Secretary of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial
Discrimination
Human Rights Treaties Branch
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Tel. +41.22.917.9614 - Fax +41.22.917.90.29
e-mail: tsch...@ohchr.org
Palais Wilson - 52, rue des Pâquis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland
Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland
Joyce Fucio,
Administrative Assistant
Secretariat of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial
Discrimination
Treaties and Commission Branch
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Tel. +41.22.917.94.09 - Fax +41.22.917.90.22
e-mail: jfu...@ohchr.org
Palais Wilson - 52, rue des Pâquis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland
Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland
"Under Article 14 of International Convenant on the Elimination of All
Forms of Racial Discrimination, individuals can file submissions to
the International Committee on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial
Discrimination if the country has signed the UN ICERD Treaty and allow
the Committee to hear such submissions.
The Committee has a moral obligation if not a legal obligation to
investigate and make recommendations. The Committee has a moral duty
if not legal obligation to return correspondence.
REF: G/SO AUS 215/4
http://rapidshare.com/files/101392885/OHCHR.23February2008.web.pdf.html
1. Communication to: Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human
Rights on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers
2. Submitted for consideration under International Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
Kangaroo Court of Australia
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
Institutionalised Discrimination and Corruption in Australian Legal
System
The lack of correpondence from the Committee shed bad light on the UN
process as a whole and violates the Universal Declaration on Human
Rights.
We urge Mr Secretary General Mr Ban Ki-Moon to request that the
Committee carry out their duty and make Dignity and Justice for ALL
and not just some people."
</blockquote>
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation
Judicial corruption exposes institutionalised racism that reaches all
up the way to the High Court Australia. An officer of the Royal
Australian Navy is left without medical care as he was harassed
victimised and unlawfully discriminated against as he exposed unsafe
working conditions in the Navy, that put public safety and lives at
risk.
He approached HREOC with a complaint under HREOCA1986 and RDA1975;
what he found was institutional racism, coverup and perverting of the
Human Rights Act, violating Australia's obligation under International
Treaties ICCPR and ICERD. The president of HREOC, John von Doussa
violated HREOAC1986 in refusing to investigate his White mates, and
then refusing to terminate the complaints so that it can be heard in
the Federal Courts.
More institutionalised racism occurred at the Administrative Appeals
Tribunal, where Senior Member John Handley proceeded to pervert
justice by fabricating documents and evidence.
Questions of Law will be asked of the validity of the HREOAC1986 and
RDA1975 as the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee,
chair and co-chair, Senators Barnett and Crossin indicated that
Inquiries into Access to Justice, Australia's Legal System and the
Role of Judges should not be of assistance to Australian Citizens of
ethnic backgrounds.
Institutionalised racism and corruption in the Judiciary have made
political prisoners of Aborigines such as Lex Wotton, dogwhistled to
corrupt police leading to Black Deaths in Custody, putting public
health and safety in jeopardy, and allowing a four (4) year old
Aborigines girl to die after having been refused medical care at a Qld
hospital, political assasination of Phuong Ngo, political assasination
of Frederick Toben.
They set them up to fail and when they fail, they call them inferior
and lock them up.
Racist and corrupt White nation inciting racial hatred and Black
Deaths in Custody, reduce the Black Man to fight for his basic human
rights
The High Court Australia has been labelled racist by Justice Michael
Kirby. The Australian Michael Pelley called the High Court racist and
hyprocrites. They are so afraid of the HREOCA1986, because even the
High Court Australia must obey an Act of Parliament.
Corrupt and racist Judiciary will fight with all its might and means
to deprive us of HREOCA1986, to deprive us of Habeas Corpus as we file
such writs for Lex Wotton, Phuong Ngo, and Frederick Toben. We might
not like their politics or ethnicity, but their loss of judicial
independence and fairness, and their experience of judicial abuse of
discretionary powers will greatly affect us all now and in the future.
Until Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee and Australian
Parliament secede from ICCPR and ICERD, even the High Court must obey
HREOCA1986. We must fight for HREOCA1986 even if the Corrupt changes
its name, because it is the only Bill of Rights we have."
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/
-----------------------------------------
why little Johnnie Winston Coward Howard?
why must you cover up for your crooked white mates like crooked high
court judges French, Hayne, Gummow and Crennan JJ ?
Senate Enquiries: Whitewash
http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/legcon_ctte/judicial_system/in...
iWitness: Judicial Corruption Australia
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php?/topic/2217-y...
Heres a Documentary on how these corrupt judges conspire to pervert
justice and fabricate documents, include the newly appointed Chief
Justice Robert Stenton French
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ
The little Johnnie Winston Coward Howard neverending Magic Pudding
therapy,
where feckin white pedophiles with the nerve to accuse blackfellas !!!
Crooked racist white Australia ^^
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/user/fightKangarooCourts
You damned fool! What makes you think that what we are talking about
here is so important
to the 'party' that they would reward people speaking in favor of them?
How you would answer the question and how my primary school went are
two different issues?
Even your pimary school teacher and mine would differ in many views.
You have not answered the
question yet.
Do you think the security guards at the border of a democratic nation
would let
people go in and out of their border without a permit?
I think you are a dirty communist who despises meritocracy but wants
to go back to the days of Mao.
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f3124f19-4bde-48d9...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> when you submit your printouts....?....- ??????? -
>>
>> - ??????? -
>
> You damned fool! What makes you think that what we are talking about
> here is so important
> to the 'party' that they would reward people speaking in favor of them?
ahhhh.... so... you've been well indoctrinated to believe any
acknowledgement, even of a few extra slices of bread, is a rare honour for a
lowly peasant such as yourself.... no wonder you hate the thought of others
fighting to be free to determine their own destinies... ;-)
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a44ee130-1d9e-4d34...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>> nuances of your particularly evil dysfunction.... ;-)- ??????? -
>>
>> - ??????? -
>
> How you would answer the question and how my primary school went are
> two different issues?
> Even your pimary school teacher and mine would differ in many views.
which is simply another way of saying your education was an
indoctrination...
> You have not answered the
> question yet.
funny how you can dodge my question for so many posts and then expect an
answer to your nonsense question.... if you have a point to make with your
question, then get to it... otherwise, it just looks like you're stroking
yourself over some imaginary form of prosaic cleverness... you are only
succeeding in projecting the image of a drooling idiot who's just discovered
he can write his name whilst peeing....
iow.... spit it it fryspoon... if you have a point to make with regards to
who decides who you are, then be a good leetul doggie and bark it out if the
words are too hard for you to handle... ;-)
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8e6c4005-f3b2-4bcc...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
If I had any doubt you are a troll you just took any doubts away.
You are the one who wants to take away our right to vote away. I support
parliamentary democracy and the right for the people to elect the
government. You want to take that away hence you are the communist. No your
worse you are a fascist and anti Australian.
It took me a few days to realise you were a troll. Usually I can smell them
a mile away.
>Revolution is nigh
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation
Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en
Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/
> If Institutionalised Racism kills, High Court Australia criminal? You
>bet
>
>http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2137/75221326522959327217259.jpg
>
>
>
>http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/61/logohreoc.gif
>
><img src="http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/61/logohreoc.gif">
>
Request that UN Committee on Elimination of Racism to prosecute WHITE
Racist Nations, incl Australia
Request that UN Committee on Elimination of Racism to prosecute WHITE
Racist Nations, incl Australia
Cant the Whiteman be trusted with a signed Treaty?
Come join this petition, and save American Taxpayers' dollars on
useless UN rorts that only go to fuel terrorism through their
hypocrisy and abuse of UN process, and the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights.
<a
href="http://www.change.org/actions/view/
request_that_un_committee_on_elimination_of_racism_to_prosecute_white_racist_nations_incl_australia">change.org</
a>
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
NB. i need the email address of the UN Secretary General
Torsten Schackel
Acting Secretary of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial
Discrimination
Human Rights Treaties Branch
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Tel. +41.22.917.9614 - Fax +41.22.917.90.29
e-mail: tsch...@ohchr.org
Palais Wilson - 52, rue des P�quis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland
Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland
Joyce Fucio,
Administrative Assistant
Secretariat of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial
Discrimination
Treaties and Commission Branch
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Tel. +41.22.917.94.09 - Fax +41.22.917.90.22
e-mail: jfu...@ohchr.org
Palais Wilson - 52, rue des P�quis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland
Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland
"Under Article 14 of International Convenant on the Elimination of All
Forms of Racial Discrimination, individuals can file submissions to
the International Committee on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial
Discrimination if the country has signed the UN ICERD Treaty and allow
the Committee to hear such submissions.
The Committee has a moral obligation if not a legal obligation to
investigate and make recommendations. The Committee has a moral duty
if not legal obligation to return correspondence.
REF: G/SO AUS 215/4
http://rapidshare.com/files/101392885/OHCHR.23February2008.web.pdf.html
1. Communication to: Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human
Rights on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers
2. Submitted for consideration under International Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
Kangaroo Court of Australia
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
Institutionalised Discrimination and Corruption in Australian Legal
System
The lack of correpondence from the Committee shed bad light on the UN
process as a whole and violates the Universal Declaration on Human
Rights.
We urge Mr Secretary General Mr Ban Ki-Moon to request that the
Committee carry out their duty and make Dignity and Justice for ALL
and not just some people."
</blockquote>
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation
Judicial corruption exposes institutionalised racism that reaches all
up the way to the High Court Australia. An officer of the Royal
Australian Navy is left without medical care as he was harassed
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/
===
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
==
-----------------------------------------
>The issue of Tibet independence is now a lost cause, for the simple
>reason that it commands no marketable economic value.
>
If Tibet has no economic value and the Tibetans want independence why
does China refuse to grant it?
>Is Washington a foreign power to Hawaii?
I don't see any problem in allowing Hawaiians to decide this. If the
citizens of Hawaii, including the expatriates, want to secede why
shouldn't they do so with the blessing and support of Americans in
general?
> Chiang Kai Shek was a descendant of Tibetans, so i was told.
>
Instead of the CCP, Chiang Kai Shek had friendly relations with Tibetan
government.
Peter
How does this sound?
'Because they're a bunch of tyrannical paranoid kleptomaniac evil
bastards who want to rule the world'
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
Against who?
They've got land a border with both India and Pakistan.
If you take the King's shilling, you do the King's bidding.
Don Trump once quipped on the modern Kantian Golden Rule: "He who owns
the gold makes the rule."
Of course Tibet has both economic and strategic value but the cause of
its independence does not.
Read carefully before answering next time.
By the way, no nation wants to lose an inch even if this inch of land
does not have economic value
at the time of looking at it.
China invaded all its other 58 provinces in 1949.
The PRC should also allow the HK people to hold a referendum on the
independence of HK or
more specifically the independence of New Territery.
If you thought you could get a few slices of bread of saying something
here, you would really be a
true welfare bum!
No, a bum like you is better off being governed by technocrats...no
vote for you.