Has Canada run amok with polygamy and incest since gay marriage was legislated?
Chom Noamsky
nutters there are using the same false reasoning they did here in
Canada. It will lead to polygamy and incest. It will destroy the moral
fabric of society, blah blah blah.
Here in Canada blokes have been hitching blokes and sheilas have been
hitching sheilas since 2006, yet not a single instance of the new law
being used to promote and justify polygamy or incest. It simply didn't
happen.
I hope Australians are above all this irrational religious fear mongering:
Nick Backlash
As we know from other conservative societies, In a truly free society
consenting same sex couples have no right to marry, in fact the state
belongs in the bedrooms of the nation and homosexuality should be
outlawed like it is in conservative Utopias like Uganda and the
litany of fundamentalist Islamic theocracies where it is punishable by death.
Vote Conservative and be free like them.
Benway (original non-Zionist)
**********************************
Nothing is more boring than the
psychoneurotic problems of faggots.
(Except perhaps Jewish problems.)
**********************************
simplicity
> The gay marriage debate is going hot in Australia and the religious
> nutters there are using the same false reasoning they did here in
> Canada. It will lead to polygamy and incest. It will destroy the moral
> fabric of society, blah blah blah.
There is more than just blah blah blah, if you only cared to open your
eyes, Chapsky.
I am not sure how it is everywhere in Canada, but here, in Ontario,
talks about legalizing polygamy are not dead. They surface, every once
in a while, fade away, just to resurface again.
It is very much the same pattern as the issue of gay "marriage" some
10 or so years ago. And where are we today?
So, you may dismiss it with your posted blah blah blah today, but I
predict that some 10 years from now you will be in the avant-garde of
those "progressive" social activists foaming about legalizing polygamy
(and God knows what else) in the same name as you used for homosexual
"marriages": equality, human rights and other blah blah blah. Time
will show, Chapsky, time will show.
Chom Noamsky
> On Dec 11, 11:41 am, Chom Noamsky <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote:
>> The gay marriage debate is going hot in Australia and the religious
>> nutters there are using the same false reasoning they did here in
>> Canada. It will lead to polygamy and incest. It will destroy the moral
>> fabric of society, blah blah blah.
>
> There is more than just blah blah blah, if you only cared to open your
> eyes, Chapsky.
>
> I am not sure how it is everywhere in Canada, but here, in Ontario,
> talks about legalizing polygamy are not dead. They surface, every once
> in a while, fade away, just to resurface again.
Mostly in your imagination, I'm sure.
> It is very much the same pattern as the issue of gay "marriage" some
> 10 or so years ago. And where are we today?
You're promoting the same fallacious logic as the religious nutters.
> So, you may dismiss it with your posted blah blah blah today, but I
> predict that some 10 years from now you will be in the avant-garde of
> those "progressive" social activists foaming about legalizing polygamy
> (and God knows what else) in the same name as you used for homosexual
> "marriages": equality, human rights and other blah blah blah. Time
> will show, Chapsky, time will show.
Polygamy was in debate long before gay marriage.... if it wasn't an
issue then we wouldn't have laws criminalizing it. And look who is
running amok with polygamy... Christian nutters.. dudes like Winston
Blackmore in Bountiful with the 19 wives. Religious freedom gives them
a license to thumb their noses at the law, but goddamned if a coupe of
blokes want to get hitched... absolutely can't tolerate that.
I always thought conservatives were defenders of human rights and
promoters of civil liberties, but bring up the topic of same sex
marriage and they go apeshit with oppression.
Your response was typically shallow and ignorant... you are at least
faithful to your character.
regn.pickfod
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
news:wxvUm.57108$PH1.9605@edtnps82...
You ignore the outraged sensibilities of good Christian people when exposed
to the hedonistic, frenetic and depraved behaviour of sexual deviates.
Your value judgements on what you consider `socially acceptable` is
compromised.
http://zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/index.php
Friends Of Bush
<captai...@mailpuppy.com> wrote:
> Chom Noamsky wrote:
> > The gay marriage debate is going hot in Australia and the religious
> > nutters there are using the same false reasoning they did here in
> > Canada. It will lead to polygamy and incest. It will destroy the moral
> > fabric of society, blah blah blah.
>
> > Here in Canada blokes have been hitching blokes and sheilas have been
> > hitching sheilas since 2006, yet not a single instance of the new law
> > being used to promote and justify polygamy or incest. It simply didn't
> > happen.
>
> > I hope Australians are above all this irrational religious fear mongering:
>
>
> **********************************
>
> Nothing is more boring than the
> psychoneurotic problems of faggots.
> (Except perhaps Jewish problems.)
>
> **********************************
Are you quoting Hitler again?
D' Arcy McGee
> You ignore the outraged sensibilities of good Christian people when exposed
> to the hedonistic, frenetic and depraved behaviour of sexual deviates.
>
>
Christians? Sexual deviants? The words are synonyms for each other.
Sanctimonious religious piety has nothing to do with morals or the definition
of morals, which is why religion has no place in the affairs of the state.
Oh! Look! Here's some religious people now! And they're not even Catholic!
Lake Wales, FL. The pastor at the Church of the Nazarene has been charged
with sexually assaulting a male 17-year-old youth leader three times in 2001.
The Rev. Gene Francis, 52, of Lake Wales, was arrested Tuesday and charged
with unlawful sexual activity with a minor. (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, June 4,
2003)
Lake Wales minister arrested in sexual assault case
Tuscon, AZ. The Rev. David Valencia, 47, assistant pastor of a Pentecostal
church is expected in court Wednesday on rape charges issued by Pennsylvania
authorities. In Pennsylvania, Valencia was an assistant pastor at Christ
Church at Grove Farm, an interdenominational church that uses Anglican
liturgy. The pastor of Christ Church, the Rev. John Guest, told the
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that Valencia was dismissed in late 2001 because he
was found to have pornography on an office computer after he was warned about
a similar incident months earlier. (Tucson Citizen, May 31, 2003)
Rev. David Valencia allegedly had sex with a 17-year-old girl he was
counseling
Fort Pierce, FL. Pastor Kenneth Johnson, recently convicted of having sex
with a minor, and Friendship Missionary Baptist Church -- where he reportedly
continues to minister -- were named in a sex-abuse lawsuit filed Tuesday.
Johnson, 39, is scheduled to be sentenced Friday on one count of unlawful
sexual activity with a minor. He faces up to 15 years on the second-degree
felony. (The Tribune, January 22, 2003) .
Johnson to be sentenced Friday on 1 count of unlawful sexual activity with
minor
Athens, GA. Ralph Tulk, 63, was arrested Tuesday and charged with five counts
of child molestation for allegedly inappropriately touching five children at
Holy Trinity Lutheran Church over several years. He was superintendent of the
Sunday school program when some of the alleged molestations took place and
was treasurer of the church until last month, according to police and the
church. Dickerson and many other residents of this Northeast Georgia city --
most of whom were willing to share their thoughts about the case but not be
quoted -- said they worry about the church, but aren't yet convinced of the
allegations. "This is America, and you are innocent until proven guilty,"
Dickerson said. (MSNBC.com, Jan. 11, 2003)
Town reacts to molestation charges
Bryan, TX. A pastor was arrested and released from jail Monday night after he
was charged with aggravated sexual assault of a child. Ford was indicted
earlier this month based on an allegation he had sexually assaulted a teenage
boy who went on a trip with the pastor to the Texas Panhandle more than two
years ago. Ford was pastor from the New Zion Missionary Baptist Church in
Bryan where he had served for 17 years. (Bryan-College Station Eagle, Dec.
24, 2002)
pastor accused of assaulting Bryan boy arrested
Idaho Falls, ID. An area pastor is charged with inappropriately touching a
teenage boy. Idaho Falls police charged a long-time religious leader with
five counts of lewd conduct with a minor. 46-year-old Steven Michael
Sheridan, the former pastor of St. Paul's United Methodist Church has been
arrested-- this after police recorded two recent phone conversations between
the victim and Sheridan. Sheridan was the pastor of St. Paul's United
Methodist Church five years ago when the alleged crimes occurred. Since then,
he's been pastor of another church. The victim who was 13 at the time, and is
now 18, said Sheridan was like a mentor. They took trips together, and during
those trips, Sheridan touched him sexually. One time, the pastor allegedly
touched the boys genitals saying he was checking for cancer. (KPVI, Dec. 6,
2002)
AREA PASTOR CHARGED WITH INAPPROPRIATELY TOUCHING A TEENAGE BOY
Former Pastor Sex Abuse Case Moves Forward
Denver, CO. Denver police arrested a 26-year-old youth minister with St.
John's Church of God in Christ after a 15-year-old member accused him of
sexual assault.(November 15, 2002, Rocky Moutain News)
Youth Paster arrested
News Report
LINCOLN, NE. Three lawsuits have been filed against a Lutheran church school
for alleged sexual abuse by former officials, including a minister who served
as principal. The lawsuits against St. John Lutheran Church in Seward seek
millions of dollars for the alleged abuse. The Lincoln Journal Star reported
in Saturday's editions that two lawsuits were filed in Lancaster County
District Court on Friday by unnamed plaintiffs who alleged they were abused
by longtime principal David Mannigel. Mannigel, a Lutheran minister,
apparently killed himself last year. (ABC News, November 2, 2002)
Lutheran Church sued over abuse by Pastor Mannigel
LINCOLN, NE? Three lawsuits have been filed against a Lutheran church school
for alleged sexual abuse by former officials, including a minister who served
as principal. The lawsuits against St. John Lutheran Church in Seward seek
millions of dollars for the alleged abuse. The other lawsuit was filed in
U.S. District Court in Lincoln on Wednesday by T. Mark Kraft, a Colorado man,
for claims of abuse by retired teacher Arlen Meyer. That lawsuit seeks $1
million. (ABC News, November 2, 2002)
Lutheran Church sued over abuse by Pastor Meyer
Austin, TX. A former youth minister faces up to 20 years in prison after he
was convicted of nine counts of child sexual abuse. Charles Richard Willits,
Jr., 44, a former youth minister at Great Hills Baptist Church, was convicted
Saturday. Sentencing was scheduled for Monday. (October 18, 2002; Abilene
Reporter-News)
Youth Paster Convicted in Criminal Court
Lake Wales, FL. The pastor at the Church of the Nazarene has been charged with
sexually assaulting a male 17-year-old youth leader three times in 2001. The
Rev. Gene Francis, 52, of Lake Wales, was arrested Tuesday and charged with
unlawful sexual activity with a minor. (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, June 4, 2003)
Lake Wales minister arrested in sexual assault case
Tuscon, AZ. The Rev. David Valencia, 47, assistant pastor of a Pentecostal
church is expected in court Wednesday on rape charges issued by Pennsylvania
authorities. In Pennsylvania, Valencia was an assistant pastor at Christ
Church
at Grove Farm, an interdenominational church that uses Anglican liturgy. The
pastor of Christ Church, the Rev. John Guest, told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
that Valencia was dismissed in late 2001 because he was found to have
pornography on an office computer after he was warned about a similar incident
months earlier. (Tucson Citizen, May 31, 2003)
Rev. David Valencia allegedly had sex with a 17-year-old girl he was
counseling
Dayton, OH. A Trotwood minister, whose lawyer said he has been a "sex addict"
since age 10, sought treatment rather than face trial in a Brookville police-
run
Internet sting that presented a virtual 14-year-old boy in a chat room. But a
Montgomery County judge denied his plea for treatment Tuesday. Turner's
attorney, Dwight Brannon, wrote "He had his first sexual experience with
another
male at the age of 19 while in college. Shortly after he began surfing the Web
his addiction slowly began to grow." Turner had been pastor of Anchor
Community Church, 38 S. Fairgreen Drive, for seven years when he was arrested
last summer. (Dayton Daily News, 01.29.2003)
Minister arrested in police-run Internet sting
Riviera Beach, FL. A prominent minister, his church and deacon have reached a
$600,000 settlement with a mentally disabled man who accused the minister of
rape. The Rev. Thomas Masters, pastor of the New Macedonia Church of Riviera
Beach, and Church Mutual, insurer for the church, negotiated the settlement
with
the man, according to his attorneys and court papers filed Monday. The man,
who
has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old, attended New Macedonia and accused
Masters of coercing him to smoke crack cocaine and then raping him twice on
church property over Thanksgiving weekend in 1991. (The Palm Beach Post,
January
14, 2003)
West Palm Beach minister, church pay $600,000
Denver, CO. Denver police arrested a 26-year-old youth minister with St.
John's
Church of God in Christ after a 15-year-old member accused him of sexual
assault. (November 15, 2002, Rocky Moutain News)
Youth Paster arrested
News Report
Tulsa, OK. Son Minh Rockstroh, 48, was arrested Saturday on three counts of
rape
by instrumentation and one count of lewd molestation of a child. He was jailed
about 2 a.m. Saturday and is being held in lieu of $200,000 bail. The
allegations have no apparent link to his work as a schoolteacher but to his
leadership of a small religious group called Church Life, Tulsa police said.
The
victim and her mother met Rockstroh through Church Life, whose members meet in
each others' homes, Detective Chuck Haywood said. "There is not a pastor of
the
church, but everyone considered him to be the guy in charge," Haywood said of
Rockstroh. During an interview with police, Rockstroh admitted that he had
molested the girl on three occasions, jail records show. (Tulsa World,
11/12/2002)
Church Leader Arrested
TISHOMINGO, OK. Kentucky pastor accused of raping a 12-year-old Oklahoma girl
has surrendered to Johnston County officials. The Rev. Chadwick L. Keathley,
associate pastor of Ark of Mercy Church of God in Winchester, Ky., responded
Tuesday to an arrest warrant issued Aug. 26. Prosecutors charged Keathley, 27,
with lewd molestation, first-degree rape and rape by instrumentation. He was
released after posting a $25,000 cash bond and an Oct. 22 preliminary hearing
was scheduled. The alleged incident occurred during summer 2000 at a Church of
God gathering at Camp Bond Youth Camp near Tishomingo. (The Winchester Sun,
Sept. 2002)
Pastor surrenders to Oklahoma officials
simplicity
Slogan, upon slogans, upon slogans. Typical Chapsky. It is you who
shows ignorance when you roll out heavy artillery of "human rights"
and "civil liberties" when none of them really apply.
Make sure nothing will distort you happy perception. But, well... I am
sure nothing will... you would not notice getting plowed to the side
of the road along with half meter of snow and dirt.
USENET
The polygamists at Bountiful use gay marriage as one of the reasons
why their polygamy should be accepted. I agree.
Seon Ferguson
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
news:VCuUm.57096$PH1.5144@edtnps82...
Chom this Australian hasn't fallen for the phony arguments. They say "After
gay marriage what next? Marriages between a man and a animal?" that is a
crap argument. Gay marriage will give two people of the same sex the right
to marry and no one in their right mind wants to give people the right to
marry animals.
Archie
You're a homosexualist pushing the homosexualist agenda.
Pretty soon you'll be pushing homosexualism in the schools.
It is traditional and right for marriage to consist of a man and a
woman sweating under rough sodomy in the privacy of their bedroom.
Sure he might whack her around a bit; it's God's way.
Archie
>
> Slogan, upon slogans, upon slogans. Typical Chapsky. It is you who
> shows ignorance when you roll out heavy artillery of "human rights"
> and "civil liberties" when none of them really apply.
>
> Make sure nothing will distort you happy perception. But, well... I am
> sure nothing will... you would not notice getting plowed to the side
What's it to you if consenting adults have sex this way or that way?
Why shopuld you and more importantly - the state - have an opinion?
Benway (original non-Zionist)
**********************************
I never have been moved to quote Hitler.
I find Hitler as boring as faggots and
Jews with their fake problems and
dull, drippy issues.
Feel free to quote Hitler if you find his
harsh politics exciting in some gay way.
I have no intention of spinning into the
neurotic vortex of trivia and drivel that
has been spun by Jews and gays.
***************************************
regn.pickfod
"Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:4712c112-3133-4fdc...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
Homosexual
may be insured and in a fashion `pay their own way` for operations on their
arses
for tears and prolapse, the mental disease and inclination to self harm but
the'
community at large cops the bill for the Impact of Aids and the other
various
STD the risky sexual behaviour asociated with the Homosexual Lifestyle
spread.
i.e. what goes on `behind doors' doesn't _stay_ `behind doors`
Even now, there are reports of a new infection brought to the
world by Homosexuals and the Homosexual Lifestyle.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59714
[quote stt]
Eerily reminiscent of reports a quarter century ago of the rapidly
spreading AIDS epidemic, a new variety of staphylococcus bacteria,
highly resistant to antibiotics, is now spreading among homosexual
males in San Francisco, Boston, New York and Los Angeles,
according to a new report in the Annals of Internal Medicine.
"Wake up, medical and political establishment: Homosexual
behavior is unhealthy - no matter how many secular sermons
you preach against 'homophobia,'" wrote Peter LaBarbera in
a statement on the Americans for Truth About Homosexuality
website.
"Due to liberal political correctness, which insists on treating
aberrant - even deadly - behaviors and lifestyles as a 'civil right,'
we as a society don't seem to have learned much from the
AIDS pandemic," he said.
He called it an "eerie reminder" of the first stories about AIDS.
"It is unfathomable that after that plague, disease specialists and
the media are now surprised at the correlation of a new infection
with homosexual behavior," he said.
[quote fin]
Homophiles claim theHomosexual Lifestyle is harmless, `what goes on
behind closed doors ...' rah rah rah
It's a crock Homosexuals engage in frenetic and risky sexual behaviour
putting society at ever increasing risk.
Archie
the whole thing is pretty scary isn't it. I bet you can't sleep at
night.
If you find yourself at risk you should try to look the other way when
you feel sexually attracted to a man.
I have a feeling that the homosexualists will be getting you to sign
up for their homosexualist agenda.
As the old saying goes - he who protesteth too much is a faggot.
Just remember - when the day comes you're cruising around gay bars and
you are attacked by small minded morons; there was a day you were one
of them. And at that pint you'll be worried about the calamity that
small minded bigots can cause and have caused in this world - and at
that point myself and many more will join you.
regn.pickfod
On Dec 12, 4:01 pm, "regn.pickfod" <r...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote:
>the whole thing is pretty scary isn't it. I bet you can't sleep at
>night.
>
You prefer not to acknowledge the real risk and deaths and
suffering caused by Homosexuals and theHomosexual Lifestyle.
People will and have died and suffer so this minority of sexual deviates
can pursue their abnormal and offfensive cravings.
>If you find yourself at risk you should try to look the other way when
>>you feel sexually attracted to a man.
>
>I have a feeling that the homosexualists will be getting you to sign
>up for their homosexualist agenda.
>
>As the old saying goes - he who protesteth too much is a faggot.
>
That is a self perpetuating nonsense as is your `behind closed doors'
belief. People find the Homosexual Lifestyle offensive and disgusting
because of the same reasons they find the other sexual deviations
such as beastiality , pedophilia, necrophilia, etc, disgusting and offensive
they are harmfull to society and breach of Taboo.
>Just remember - when the day comes you're cruising around gay bars and
>you are attacked by small minded morons; there was a day you were one
>of them. And at that pint you'll be worried about the calamity that
>small minded bigots can cause and have caused in this world - and at
>that point myself and many more will join you.
>
You ignore the Aids Pandemic spread across the world ny Homosexuals
on sex holidays and new diseases like this resistant staph being
spread in a similiar fashion.
Supporting the Homosexual lifestyle kills people.
Aids was first noticed after WW2 but it wasn't till the social changes
of the 70's and the relaxation of crime/indecency laws that Homosexuals
were
in a postion to carry the disease, unrestricted to the world.
Any person who ignores the risk of the Homosexual Lifestyle is likely tarred
with similiar `mental disease issues' that afflict Homosexuals.
Chom Noamsky
> suffering caused by Homosexuals and theHomosexual Lifestyle.
You, of course, are singling out a particular offender while ignoring
the huge crowd of other offenders. Is there any particular reason why
this one deserves special attention while the others do not? I'd like
to see smoking abolished, but even though I despise smokers and smoking
I recognize they have a right to make lifestyle choices. As long as
they keep their filthy smoke to themselves I'm fine with it. It's the
cost of living in a free society.
simplicity
What does way one practices sex have to do with the subject?
Seon Ferguson
"regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:822f0792-1cd7-4de8...@k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 12, 4:01 pm, "regn.pickfod" <r...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote:
>
>>the whole thing is pretty scary isn't it. I bet you can't sleep at
>>night.
>>
> You prefer not to acknowledge the real risk and deaths and
> suffering caused by Homosexuals and theHomosexual Lifestyle.
>
What about the suffering caused by the heterosexual lifestyle? Straight
people get aids as well.
> People will and have died and suffer so this minority of sexual deviates
> can pursue their abnormal and offfensive cravings.
>
>>If you find yourself at risk you should try to look the other way when
>>>you feel sexually attracted to a man.
>>
>>I have a feeling that the homosexualists will be getting you to sign
>>up for their homosexualist agenda.
>>
And what is the homosexual agenda?
Chom Noamsky
You agree with little girls being forced to marry old men against their
will?
Chom Noamsky
It must be really tough to hate me but agree with me at the same time.
regn.pickfod
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
Archie posted a question about homosexuality
>>>What's it to you if consenting adults have sex this way or that way?
>>>Why shopuld you and more importantly - the state - have an opinion?
If Archie had displayed similiar ignorance about the harms of smoking then
I may have replied correcting him of the Harms of smoking. But in truth,
I find smoking considerably less offensive than Homosexuality and would be
more enclined not to reply.
Smokers like drinkers face extra controls and regulations on their
`sins' via the application of excise and a social peer pressure to qui
or minimise consumption.
Homosexuality should also be highly regulated and controlled
as well as facing social pressure (discouraged) in parallel
interests of public safety.
Seon Ferguson
"Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:89f497c5-b56b-4049...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 11, 11:41 am, Chom Noamsky <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote:
>> The gay marriage debate is going hot in Australia and the religious
>> nutters there are using the same false reasoning they did here in
>> Canada. It will lead to polygamy and incest. It will destroy the moral
>> fabric of society, blah blah blah.
>>
>> Here in Canada blokes have been hitching blokes and sheilas have been
>> hitching sheilas since 2006, yet not a single instance of the new law
>> being used to promote and justify polygamy or incest. It simply didn't
>> happen.
>>
>> I hope Australians are above all this irrational religious fear
>> mongering:
>>
>> http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/27/australian-gay-marriage-could-le...
>
> You're a homosexualist pushing the homosexualist agenda.
>
What is the Homosexual agenda?
> Pretty soon you'll be pushing homosexualism in the schools.
>
What and teachers sleeping with kids is good?
> It is traditional and right for marriage to consist of a man and a
> woman sweating under rough sodomy in the privacy of their bedroom.
> Sure he might whack her around a bit; it's God's way.
It also used to be "Traditional" for black's and women to not have the right
to vote. But they have that right now.
Chom Noamsky
You just got trapped by your own logic. Even though smoking kills more
people than AIDS, you find it less offensive. Then we have obesity,
caused by poor diet and sedentary living, which kills more people than
AIDS or smoking. I dislike very much the thought of paying for some
lazy fat fuckers health care through my taxes, but there a risks
inherent in my own lifestyle... so I can't preach from a virtuous
pedestal. The social contract here is I won't condemn your lifestyle
choices if you don't condemn mine. Are you pure and virtuous,
"regn.pickfod", enough to judge the lifestyles of others?
regn.pickfod
I do not find Smoking very offensive because I am an ex smoker
who enjoys the occasional whiff of second hand smoke,
especially Cigars.i.e. I don't find it as offensive as Homosexuality
so Iwould be less inclined to respond to a posters ignoranceabout it.
Obesity, drugs, drink,speeding,and so forth are strongly regulated
and becoming regulated. None of them are accepted as appropriate
behaviour or encouraged.
Homosexuality likewise for parallel reasons should not be accepted
as appropriate behaviour or encouraged.
I would also like to see hate laws removed as it gives Homosexuals
a false sense of acceptance as they are not exposed to vigorous
social feedback.
.
Seon Ferguson
"regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
news:4b24...@news.comindico.com.au...
I think hatred and ignorance should not be promoted or encouraged but you
gay bashers promote it all the time. Thank God you Christian jihadists will
never have your way.
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
>
> I think hatred
That's simply terrible!
--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.
"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.
"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott
regn.pickfod
> "Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:89f497c5-b56b-4049...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 11, 11:41 am, Chom Noamsky <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote:
>>> The gay marriage debate is going hot in Australia and the religious
>>> nutters there are using the same false reasoning they did here in
>>> Canada. It will lead to polygamy and incest. It will destroy the
>>> moral fabric of society, blah blah blah.
>>>
>>> Here in Canada blokes have been hitching blokes and sheilas have
>>> been hitching sheilas since 2006, yet not a single instance of the
>>> new law being used to promote and justify polygamy or incest. It
>>> simply didn't happen.
>>>
>>> I hope Australians are above all this irrational religious fear
>>> mongering:
>>>
>>> http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/27/australian-gay-marriage-could-le...
>>
>> You're a homosexualist pushing the homosexualist agenda.
>>
> What is the Homosexual agenda?
>
on debasing a society to low levels of morality that the offensiveness of
Homosexuality is not noticeable as it becomes `par for the course`
It does this by influencing the culture through the media and targetting
non homophiles with three tiers of interferrence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_agenda
also read
http://www.article8.org/docs/gay_strategies/after_the_ball.htm
>> Pretty soon you'll be pushing homosexualism in the schools.
>>
> What and teachers sleeping with kids is good?
>
>> It is traditional and right for marriage to consist of a man and a
>> woman sweating under rough sodomy in the privacy of their bedroom.
>> Sure he might whack her around a bit; it's God's way.
>
> It also used to be "Traditional" for black's and women to not have
> the right to vote. But they have that right now.
It wasn't traditional. Aboriginals didn't automatically have the franchise.
I am sure, that some Aboriginals voted.
Chom Noamsky
You just confirmed that health has nothing to do with your position.
Same sex marriage reduces risky behavior by promoting monogamy and
discouraging promiscuity. So I suspect you're just a plain, ordinary
bigot, or simply just irrational, because nothing you've said so far
makes any sense.
Benway (original non-Zionist)
*******************************************
Our gay friends are just festering farms of
pathogenic organisms. If they found some nice
island away from the "homophobes" and they populated
it with their own kind of infected psychoneurotics,
they would rot from their own pet diseases.
*******************************************
Chom Noamsky
> It is a plan to normalise Homosexuality. Unfortunately it depends
> on debasing a society to low levels of morality that the offensiveness of
> Homosexuality is not noticeable as it becomes `par for the course`
You're doing a lot more to debase society by promoting irrational fear,
intolerance and hatred. After same sex marriage was legalized in Canada
all the noise about the so-called "gay agenda" pretty much disappeared.
Nothing noticeable at all, it was a complete non-issue. The only
thing that changed was a class of people could no longer be
discriminated against based on sexual orientation. Absolutely none of
the hysterical fears were ever realized. That's why I originated this
post, because Australians should know the hysterics over same sex
marriage in Canada turned out to be nothing. Been there done that.
> It does this by influencing the culture through the media and targetting
> non homophiles with three tiers of interferrence
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_agenda
>
> also read
>
> http://www.article8.org/docs/gay_strategies/after_the_ball.htm
>
>
>>> Pretty soon you'll be pushing homosexualism in the schools.
>>>
>> What and teachers sleeping with kids is good?
>>
>>> It is traditional and right for marriage to consist of a man and a
>>> woman sweating under rough sodomy in the privacy of their bedroom.
>>> Sure he might whack her around a bit; it's God's way.
>> It also used to be "Traditional" for black's and women to not have
>> the right to vote. But they have that right now.
>
> It wasn't traditional. Aboriginals didn't automatically have the franchise.
> I am sure, that some Aboriginals voted.
You got busted again. Yeah, it was traditional to deny women, blacks,
aboriginals the right to vote... pretty much everyone who wasn't a white
colonial. Democracy means one person one vote but it required a break
from 'tradition' before women and other minorities were recognized as
persons under the law.
regn.pickfod
go soak your head; kid. you absolutely hate, people who hate ...
I get the message
How it is promoting ignorance to expose faggots to vigourous
social feedback?
regn.pickfod
My position is; risky health behaviour of the Homosexual lifestyle
extinguishes claims that Homosexuality is harmless or that what
goes on `behind closed doors between consenting adults` is no ones
business but the parties involved, as seen very plainly in the spread
of Aids to the world by Homosexuals.
> Same sex marriage reduces risky behavior by promoting monogamy and
> discouraging promiscuity. So I suspect you're just a plain, ordinary
> bigot, or simply just irrational, because nothing you've said so far
> makes any sense.
The risky behaviour is promoted by lawfull acknowledgement that
Homosexuals and their lifestyle not be impeded by vigorous social feedback
or face criminal charges for risky and unnatural behaviour.
Homosexual monogamy is irrelevant. Monogamy is about passing on genes,
and protecting the issue of that bonding by a family.
a _benefit_ of minimising sexual partners is reducing transmission of STD.
Homosexuals do not need to be married or have a social contract
to minimise sexual partners or risky behaviour.
Marriage as such to ensure the passing on of genes is a sad
pathetic joke when applies to homosexuality.
It is not uncommon for Lesbians to accept `donations` from Homosexuals
and create unnatural turkey baster bastards. therebye evading their genetic
fate
of personal gene extinction.
Chom Noamsky
Thank you... you answered my question... you're just a plain ordinary
bigot. We've got lots of those in Canada... and they lost.
regn.pickfod
No you are incorrect.
http://www.aec.gov.au/voting/indigenous_vote/aborigin.htm
[quote stt]
Very few Aborigines knew their rights so very few voted. But some eventually
did.
Point McLeay, a mission station near the mouth of the Murray, got a polling
station in the 1890s. Aboriginal men and women voted there in South
Australian
elections and voted for the first Commonwealth Parliament in 1901.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Senate voted to let Aborigines vote but the House of Representatives
defeated them. The 1902 Franchise Act gave women a Commonwealth
vote but Aborigines and other 'coloured' people were excluded unless
entitled under section41 of the Constitution.
[quote fin]
As I said :
regn.pickfod
I have some more enlightenment to shine into the dim recess's
of that scone of yours.
Every single person of sound mind is a bigot.
It is perfectly natural for people to graduate and form social
networks with people of like mind, just as it perfectly natural
for people to withdraw from people not of like mind and therebye
demonstrate a preferance or reluctance to associate with others.
i.e. bigotry.
If you claim not to be a bigot then you are in ignorance and self denial
BTW - When Canada changed the laws 5 odd years ago
acccepting same sex marrriage, _Canada_ lost
Chom Noamsky
A constitutional right that can be denied at the state level is not a
right. It wasn't until 1962 that your aboriginals got the right to vote
in Commonwealth elections, regardless of voting rights at the state level.
And what about women? A hundred years ago you would have been working
hard to deny women equal human rights.
Chom Noamsky
> I have some more enlightenment to shine into the dim recess's
> of that scone of yours.
>
> Every single person of sound mind is a bigot.
>
> It is perfectly natural for people to graduate and form social
> networks with people of like mind, just as it perfectly natural
> for people to withdraw from people not of like mind and therebye
> demonstrate a preferance or reluctance to associate with others.
> i.e. bigotry.
>
> If you claim not to be a bigot then you are in ignorance and self denial
Actually, I agree. I've never claimed to anyone that discrimination
isn't a natural and common everyday thing. What isn't right is
discriminating against people unfairly and unjustly. It might be
natural for you to treat unlike people differently, but when that
treatment extends to disadvantaging unlike people just for the sake of
being a different colour, different sexual orientation, different
religion, different gender, etc., that isn't right. If your core values
dictate that all humans should be equal in basic rights, then denying
people rights based on homosexual orientation is being unjustly bigoted.
Have you demonstrated that discrimination in this case is justified?
Not in the least. All you've done is use the same failed arguments that
got shot down in Canada.
> BTW - When Canada changed the laws 5 odd years ago
> acccepting same sex marrriage, _Canada_ lost
Canada did the right thing, it enforced its own constitutional law.
Seon Ferguson
Another old fart with "morals" which belong in the 1950's trying to tell
people how to live I see. Hey grandpa get with the times.
Seon Ferguson
"regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
news:4b24...@news.comindico.com.au...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> "Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:89f497c5-b56b-4049...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Dec 11, 11:41 am, Chom Noamsky <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote:
>>>> The gay marriage debate is going hot in Australia and the religious
>>>> nutters there are using the same false reasoning they did here in
>>>> Canada. It will lead to polygamy and incest. It will destroy the
>>>> moral fabric of society, blah blah blah.
>>>>
>>>> Here in Canada blokes have been hitching blokes and sheilas have
>>>> been hitching sheilas since 2006, yet not a single instance of the
>>>> new law being used to promote and justify polygamy or incest. It
>>>> simply didn't happen.
>>>>
>>>> I hope Australians are above all this irrational religious fear
>>>> mongering:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/27/australian-gay-marriage-could-le...
>>>
>>> You're a homosexualist pushing the homosexualist agenda.
>>>
>> What is the Homosexual agenda?
>>
> It is a plan to normalise Homosexuality. Unfortunately it depends
> on debasing a society to low levels of morality that the offensiveness of
> Homosexuality is not noticeable as it becomes `par for the course`
>
And then what, everyone is supposed to become gay?
> It does this by influencing the culture through the media and targetting
> non homophiles with three tiers of interferrence
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_agenda
>
> also read
>
> http://www.article8.org/docs/gay_strategies/after_the_ball.htm
>
>
>>> Pretty soon you'll be pushing homosexualism in the schools.
>>>
>> What and teachers sleeping with kids is good?
>>
>>> It is traditional and right for marriage to consist of a man and a
>>> woman sweating under rough sodomy in the privacy of their bedroom.
>>> Sure he might whack her around a bit; it's God's way.
>>
>> It also used to be "Traditional" for black's and women to not have
>> the right to vote. But they have that right now.
>
> It wasn't traditional. Aboriginals didn't automatically have the
> franchise.
> I am sure, that some Aboriginals voted.
>
I'm talking about in America. Blacks were given the right to vote, going
against the conservative traditional values of the time.
Chom Noamsky
>> It is a plan to normalise Homosexuality. Unfortunately it depends
>> on debasing a society to low levels of morality that the
>> offensiveness of
>> Homosexuality is not noticeable as it becomes `par for the course`
>>
> And then what, everyone is supposed to become gay?
That's the usual claim, that somehow society will be taken over by an
orgy of gayness. It's called 'succumbing to irrational fear'. Even
mainstream conservatives in Canada weren't dumb enough to fall for that one.
Chom Noamsky
> How it is promoting ignorance to expose faggots to vigourous
> social feedback?
So you believe in tyranny of the majority? That's why we have
constitutional protection of basic rights, because certain principles do
not change regardless of popular vote.
For example, modern developed nations are growing ever more secular. If
it were up to 'social feedback' (i.e. democracy) to dictate human rights
then one day it's quite possible that your freedom of religion may just
go poof... revoked by popular vote.
I would never support anything like that because deep down we all want
the same thing... freedom and liberty. I do know if you are going to
push tyranny of the majority (your 'social feedback') on others, you can
be certain they are going to push it on you.
Chom Noamsky
> Our gay friends are just festering farms of
> pathogenic organisms. If they found some nice
> island away from the "homophobes" and they populated
> it with their own kind of infected psychoneurotics,
> they would rot from their own pet diseases.
It wasn't homosexuals that spread syphilis all over the planet.
regn.pickfod
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
By social feedback I mean for example, people telling people who haven't
had a bath in a week.
"have a bath,you stinking slob"
Citizen Initiated Referendum which I believe you are talking about
is fraught with risk because drones will vote the way some
druggy rockstar will tell them to.
OTOH `CIR` is about the only way here in Australia we'll reintroduce
capital punishment and put a stop to immigration.
You may be wondering why I don't add laws restricting Homosexual
behaviour to the possible advantages of a CIR.
Seon Ferguson
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
news:x7%Um.57352$PH1.43955@edtnps82...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
>>> It is a plan to normalise Homosexuality. Unfortunately it depends
>>> on debasing a society to low levels of morality that the offensiveness
>>> of
>>> Homosexuality is not noticeable as it becomes `par for the course`
>>>
>> And then what, everyone is supposed to become gay?
>
> That's the usual claim, that somehow society will be taken over by an orgy
> of gayness. It's called 'succumbing to irrational fear'. Even mainstream
> conservatives in Canada weren't dumb enough to fall for that one.
>
That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You are not "turned" gay, you
do not choose your sexuality because it is "popular" our sexuality is
developed during puberty. We can't control it. I can't control liking women
as much as gay guys or girls can control liking people of the same sex. I
believe being afraid that gay people will turn everyone gay is the
definition of homophobia, don't you? ie. a irrational fear of homosexuality.
Benway (original non-Zionist)
**********************************************
Gays get really awful syphilis up their butts!
Thanks for reminding us of that unpleasant fact.
I don't object to gays getting infected, I just
don't want to be anywhere near it. I feel sorry
for doctors who must deal with that putrid thing.
**********************************************
Chom Noamsky
> "Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
> news:FB%Um.57355$PH1.5998@edtnps82...
>> regn.pickfod wrote:
>>
>>> How it is promoting ignorance to expose faggots to vigourous
>>> social feedback?
>> So you believe in tyranny of the majority? That's why we have
>> constitutional protection of basic rights, because certain principles do
>> not change regardless of popular vote.
>>
>> For example, modern developed nations are growing ever more secular. If
>> it were up to 'social feedback' (i.e. democracy) to dictate human rights
>> then one day it's quite possible that your freedom of religion may just go
>> poof... revoked by popular vote.
>>
>> I would never support anything like that because deep down we all want the
>> same thing... freedom and liberty. I do know if you are going to push
>> tyranny of the majority (your 'social feedback') on others, you can be
>> certain they are going to push it on you.
>
> By social feedback I mean for example, people telling people who haven't
> had a bath in a week.
> "have a bath,you stinking slob"
I get it now, 'social feedback' is a euphemism for 'hate speech'.
Nobody is stopping you from telling anyone they stink, but if you tell
someone they stink when they don't just for the sake of being offensive
and discriminatory you should expect a little 'social feedback' yourself.
> Citizen Initiated Referendum which I believe you are talking about
> is fraught with risk because drones will vote the way some
> druggy rockstar will tell them to.
Or some religious nutbar claiming to speak on behalf of some sky fairy.
> OTOH `CIR` is about the only way here in Australia we'll reintroduce
> capital punishment and put a stop to immigration.
I bet Switzerland must be your envy right now. That is tyranny of the
majority, and if it works on Muslims it will work on Christians.
> You may be wondering why I don't add laws restricting Homosexual
> behaviour to the possible advantages of a CIR.
You seem to have some warped fundamentalist justification for
everything... so not at all.
Chom Noamsky
You are resorting to absurdities. Do you find that people don't take
you seriously and just ignore you a lot? I bet you do.
regn.pickfod
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
They had the freedom to vote as long as they met the criteria.
16 yr olds don't have the franchise but they still have the freedoms.
as an aside in Australia we have no `rights' except an _implied_
right to freedom of speech as we have the freedom to vote.
> And what about women? A hundred years ago you would have been working
> hard to deny women equal human rights.
If God had intended for women to vote, he would have burdened
with logic instead of blessing them with intuition
regn.pickfod
"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
> news:4b24...@news.comindico.com.au...
>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>> "Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:89f497c5-b56b-4049...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Dec 11, 11:41 am, Chom Noamsky <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote:
>>>>> The gay marriage debate is going hot in Australia and the religious
>>>>> nutters there are using the same false reasoning they did here in
>>>>> Canada. It will lead to polygamy and incest. It will destroy the
>>>>> moral fabric of society, blah blah blah.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here in Canada blokes have been hitching blokes and sheilas have
>>>>> been hitching sheilas since 2006, yet not a single instance of the
>>>>> new law being used to promote and justify polygamy or incest. It
>>>>> simply didn't happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope Australians are above all this irrational religious fear
>>>>> mongering:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/27/australian-gay-marriage-could-le...
>>>>
>>>> You're a homosexualist pushing the homosexualist agenda.
>>>>
>>> What is the Homosexual agenda?
>>>
>> It is a plan to normalise Homosexuality. Unfortunately it depends
>> on debasing a society to low levels of morality that the offensiveness
>> of
>> Homosexuality is not noticeable as it becomes `par for the course`
>>
> And then what, everyone is supposed to become gay?
>
becomes just another perversion.
regn.pickfod
>
>
> "Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
> news:x7%Um.57352$PH1.43955@edtnps82...
>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>
>>>> It is a plan to normalise Homosexuality. Unfortunately it depends
>>>> on debasing a society to low levels of morality that the offensiveness
>>>> of
>>>> Homosexuality is not noticeable as it becomes `par for the course`
>>>>
>>> And then what, everyone is supposed to become gay?
>>
>> That's the usual claim, that somehow society will be taken over by an
>> orgy of gayness. It's called 'succumbing to irrational fear'. Even
>> mainstream conservatives in Canada weren't dumb enough to fall for that
>> one.
>>
> That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You are not "turned" gay,
> you do not choose your sexuality because it is "popular" our sexuality is
> developed during puberty. We can't control it. I can't control liking
> women as much as gay guys or girls can control liking people of the same
> sex. I believe being afraid that gay people will turn everyone gay is the
> definition of homophobia, don't you? ie. a irrational fear of
> homosexuality.
>
People can be turned Homosexual just as they can be returned to being
Heterosexual. There are special clinics set up to assist Homosexuals
give up the Homosexual livestyle and they have various levels of success.
Turning someone Homosexual is a popular Homosexual sex fantasy
it's nearly up there with `the family is happy and accepting of their
Homosexual lifestyle' fantasy
Homophobia is yet another nonsense.It is used amusingly by Homophiles
who fail to realise they are supporting Gay Bashers. GB's may claim the
`Homosexual fear response' is why they tied the faggot up to the car and
dragged him down the road. Of course the GB is Homophobic, he has
an irrational fear of Homosexuals (you can be a witness for their defense)
so he reacted in blind fear, without rationality. Poor fellow; pity 'bout
the
dung puncher , wrong place wrong time, should be more carefull than
to negligiently cause a Homophobic `Homosexual fear response' ...
People find rock spiders disgusting and want to crush them under their feet.
It isn't an irrational fear.
regn.pickfod
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
What discrimination? I wouldn't expect to be permitted to marry a bloke
whether I loved the guy or not.
> Canada did the right thing, it enforced its own constitutional law.
Fairness has nothing to do with the Law.
regn.pickfod
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
> regn.pickfod wrote:
>> "Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
>> news:FB%Um.57355$PH1.5998@edtnps82...
>>> regn.pickfod wrote:
>>>
>>>> How it is promoting ignorance to expose faggots to vigourous
>>>> social feedback?
>>> So you believe in tyranny of the majority? That's why we have
>>> constitutional protection of basic rights, because certain principles do
>>> not change regardless of popular vote.
>>>
>>> For example, modern developed nations are growing ever more secular. If
>>> it were up to 'social feedback' (i.e. democracy) to dictate human rights
>>> then one day it's quite possible that your freedom of religion may just
>>> go poof... revoked by popular vote.
>>>
>>> I would never support anything like that because deep down we all want
>>> the same thing... freedom and liberty. I do know if you are going to
>>> push tyranny of the majority (your 'social feedback') on others, you can
>>> be certain they are going to push it on you.
>>
>> By social feedback I mean for example, people telling people who haven't
>> had a bath in a week.
>> "have a bath,you stinking slob"
>
> I get it now, 'social feedback' is a euphemism for 'hate speech'.
`hate speech' is a label applied to `social feedback' to muddy the waters.
> Nobody is stopping you from telling anyone they stink, but if you tell
> someone they stink when they don't just for the sake of being offensive
> and discriminatory you should expect a little 'social feedback' yourself.
>
>> Citizen Initiated Referendum which I believe you are talking about
>> is fraught with risk because drones will vote the way some
>> druggy rockstar will tell them to.
>
> Or some religious nutbar claiming to speak on behalf of some sky fairy.
>
>> OTOH `CIR` is about the only way here in Australia we'll reintroduce
>> capital punishment and put a stop to immigration.
>
> I bet Switzerland must be your envy right now. That is tyranny of the
> majority, and if it works on Muslims it will work on Christians.
>
IMO better now than when Islam has the numbers cause they'll
put you and your friends up on the back of a truck and hang you
using an excavator.
Chom Noamsky
Pushing these ignorant beliefs never worked in Canada, they will be shot
down in Australia too.
Archie
>
> You are resorting to absurdities. Do you find that people don't take
There you go again you callous asshole.
The man is seriously apprehensive about getting aids or syphilis up
his arse and what do you do? You just insult his character. He is
obviously afraid and I would just suggest to him to be careful when
ahving sex with a lot of men he doesn't know to protect himself -
rather than insult him.
Seon Ferguson
"regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ooCdne5DLOyyK7nW...@westnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>> "Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
>> news:x7%Um.57352$PH1.43955@edtnps82...
>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It is a plan to normalise Homosexuality. Unfortunately it depends
>>>>> on debasing a society to low levels of morality that the
>>>>> offensiveness of
>>>>> Homosexuality is not noticeable as it becomes `par for the course`
>>>>>
>>>> And then what, everyone is supposed to become gay?
>>>
>>> That's the usual claim, that somehow society will be taken over by an
>>> orgy of gayness. It's called 'succumbing to irrational fear'. Even
>>> mainstream conservatives in Canada weren't dumb enough to fall for that
>>> one.
>>>
>> That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You are not "turned" gay,
>> you do not choose your sexuality because it is "popular" our sexuality is
>> developed during puberty. We can't control it. I can't control liking
>> women as much as gay guys or girls can control liking people of the same
>> sex. I believe being afraid that gay people will turn everyone gay is the
>> definition of homophobia, don't you? ie. a irrational fear of
>> homosexuality.
>>
>
> People can be turned Homosexual just as they can be returned to being
> Heterosexual. There are special clinics set up to assist Homosexuals
> give up the Homosexual livestyle and they have various levels of success.
>
Rubbish. You can live in denial and choose not to carry out homosexual acts
because of your religion but deep down no one can change their sexuality.
> Turning someone Homosexual is a popular Homosexual sex fantasy
> it's nearly up there with `the family is happy and accepting of their
> Homosexual lifestyle' fantasy
>
That is a typical ignorant viewpoint from gay bashers. Not every gay person
wants to turn everyone gay just like not every Muslim supports Binladen or
not every Jew refuses to marry outside his or her race. It is a ignorant
stereotype.
> Homophobia is yet another nonsense.It is used amusingly by Homophiles
> who fail to realise they are supporting Gay Bashers. GB's may claim the
> `Homosexual fear response' is why they tied the faggot up to the car and
> dragged him down the road. Of course the GB is Homophobic, he has
> an irrational fear of Homosexuals (you can be a witness for their defense)
> so he reacted in blind fear, without rationality. Poor fellow; pity 'bout
> the
> dung puncher , wrong place wrong time, should be more carefull than
> to negligiently cause a Homophobic `Homosexual fear response' ...
>
That isn't fear. It is a action based on hatred and ignorance.
> People find rock spiders disgusting and want to crush them under their
> feet.
> It isn't an irrational fear.
>
Gay people aren't hurting anyone except for people who hate them because of
their lifestyle.
Seon Ferguson
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
news:Z7eVm.55897$Db2.49702@edtnps83...
Sadly they are some ignorant gay bashers downunder as well. But I am hoping
the majority of Australians won't be fooled by ignorance and hatred.
Seon Ferguson
"regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
news:4b25...@news.comindico.com.au...
So gay people will make "normal" people perform other perverted acts? How?
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
>
> Chom Noamsky wrote:
>> Bentgay (original Zionist) wrote:
>>
>>> Our gay friends are just festering farms of
>>> pathogenic organisms. If they found some nice
>>> island away from the "homophobes" and they populated
>>> it with their own kind of infected psychoneurotics,
>>> they would rot from their own pet diseases.
>> It wasn't homosexuals that spread syphilis all over the planet.
> **********************************************
>
> Thanks for reminding us of that unpleasant fact.
>
Thanks for letting us know what a raving fag you are, Bentgay.
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responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
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>>
>> I don't object to getting infected, I just love it.
>
> Thanks for letting us know what a raving fag you are, Bentgay.
>
Please, PLEASE try to think before opening your cakehole.
The more garbage like this you spout, the more churlish and moronic you
sound.
Benway (original non-Zionist)
***************************************
More for the poor queer little Zionist
neo-Liberal Moloch-loving cocksucker:-
Sir Johnette Howgay-Levy AC WSCMoF
Faggy little neo-Liberal pecker-licker,
Usenet spam merchant, identity thief
and part-time Yak Wanker.
A part of the filthy Zionist cockroach
infestation of Australia that is trying
to dump Israel's problems onto Australia.
Time for Johnette to be sent back to Israel.
AC means Arse Cleaner and
WSCMoF means Wine-Soaked Child-Molesting Fuckwit
Make allowances for poor Johnette - she
seems to be retarded, but her primitive
native language was not English.
It must really suck being such an ignorant and
twisted fag girl like poor little Johnette.
--------------------
Always good to expose this little psycho:-
Johnette's file: Psychopathology of a stalker.
Stalkers and the Borderline Personality
*
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/random/bordr.html
*
Obsessive Personality of a Stalker
*
http://personalitydisorders.suite101.com/article.cfm/personality_of_a_stalker
*
Fags and dykes are sexual psychopaths, and we can see
how they actually fit into the pathological profiles.
Fags and dykes spring forth where Mother Nature
has failed. They need help, but who can help them?
What life will not mend, death will thankfully end.
*
http://www.bilegrip.com/var/www/html/images/gee.ozbest2.png
*
********************************
Benway (original non-Zionist)
More for the poor queer little Zionist
regn.pickfod
>> Turning someone Homosexual is a popular Homosexual sex fantasy
>> it's nearly up there with `the family is happy and accepting of their
>> Homosexual lifestyle' fantasy
>>
> That is a typical ignorant viewpoint from gay bashers. Not every gay
> person wants to turn everyone gay just like not every Muslim supports
> Binladen or not every Jew refuses to marry outside his or her race. It is
> a ignorant stereotype.
>
It is a popular Homosexual sex fantasy no one is sayng every Homosexual
wants to talk everyone else to having a walk on the `wild` side ...
>> Homophobia is yet another nonsense.It is used amusingly by Homophiles
>> who fail to realise they are supporting Gay Bashers. GB's may claim the
>> `Homosexual fear response' is why they tied the faggot up to the car and
>> dragged him down the road. Of course the GB is Homophobic, he has
>> an irrational fear of Homosexuals (you can be a witness for their
>> defense)
>> so he reacted in blind fear, without rationality. Poor fellow; pity 'bout
>> the
>> dung puncher , wrong place wrong time, should be more carefull than
>> to negligiently cause a Homophobic `Homosexual fear response' ...
>>
> That isn't fear. It is a action based on hatred and ignorance.
>
you're getting warmer, at least you seem to understand the Homophobic
claim is inappropriate.
>> People find rock spiders disgusting and want to crush them under their
>> feet.
>> It isn't an irrational fear.
>>
> Gay people aren't hurting anyone except for people who hate them because
> of their lifestyle.
>
They have killed and continue to kill people with thier lifestyle. AIDS was
spread across the world by Homosexuals. There is a new highly resistant
Staph being spreadvia Homosexuals across America and here in Australia
already or
due soon. Homosexuals are not harmless as you like to think.
regn.pickfod
Benway (original non-Zionist)
*****************************************
It is hard to see if it's gays or those who
feel drawn to promote them are the most neurotic.
All part of how civilizations let multiculturalism
destroy everything that acts as a social foundation.
******************************************
regn.pickfod
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
I will soon have the child weaned off using the ever popular
`Homophobic` misnomer.
Canada suffers from a multiple personality disorder.
Homosexuals have a higher incidence of mental illness.
Chom Noamsky
> If God had intended for women to vote, he would have burdened
> with logic instead of blessing them with intuition
The world must be a very confusing, frightening place for you....
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
Australia Mining Pioneer R
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine),
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology
To
West Australia Premier
The Right Hon Colin Barnett
6000 Perth WA
Australia
Copies to:
HRM The Queen of Australia, Elisabeth II à Londres & their E. the
Governors of WA & Australia
Prime Minister of Australia Right Hon Kevin Rudd at Canberra
La Rochelle on the 14th of October 2009
Sir,
Today is the 39th anniversary of the discoveries of the Great Sandy
Desert major deposits by an independent mining prospector named Jean-
Paul Turcaud. To this date the Newmont / Newcrest / BHP & Boral mining
Companies, thereafter called the Mining Criminals for convenience,
have been promoting some Dr David Stuart Tyrwhitt, former CEO of
Newmont, as the official discoverer of such huge & worthy resources
for the State of West Australia & Australia at large. I have in that
respect written to you shortly after your election to bring that
matter to your attention & as well phoned your private secretary, but
received no answer. Something which anyway I was anticipating, since
in the direct line of the positions adopted as well by the WA Mines &
Land administrations for a full generation standing & aiming at
covering a massive criminal swindle, and questioning indeed the
legality of the Mining Criminals ‘ properties of Telfer Mine & this
since the very beginning is putting your whole institution in an
extremely delicate position to say the least. Hence better to ignore
such importune query and reply by the ultimate in matter of insults :
silence;
It’s an interesting point to remark that in previous correspondences
to me from former Premiers : Court Junior, Lawrence & Gallop ( in
that case to Dr Don Findlay), although they were strongly refuting
that I was the independent prospector & right discoverer who thanks
to his exceptional courage, stamina & geological sense put Telfer Mine
on the map, at no time was proposed as alternative the name of the
Mining Criminals ‘ official fraud Tyrwhitt, as the Mining Hero who
should be rightly honoured in consequences. Why, is it the expenses of
casting a statue in homage to the great man, as in the case of Hannan
of Kalgoorlie’s fame only 10 years after his discovery of the Golden
mile, who made the West Australia Parliament balking at the decision ?
Why again since the overwhelming rich Telfer Mine mineral deposit is
estimated at 2400 km², which was my finding incidentally. I feel this
is acting very mean with regard to such a tremendous Mining Criminal
as Tyrwhitt, hailed for a generation soon, both by the Mining
Criminals & the West Australia Parliament & Administrations, and
incontrovertible facts support my assertion, as the Mining Hero he has
pretended to be ! although now he is rather adopting a very low
profile on that issue !
I know there is is a completely mundane question I could put to you,
to your Parliament, to PM Rudd etc. now, since Tyrwhitt through all
his life has made his fame out of his falsely acquired achievement,
also the Mining Criminals have made a fortune as well as their
employees out of my discoveries & your Parliament has retired great
satisfaction from such mining operations as well as still doing so now
& for a century still… while the True Discoverer, Jean-Paul Turcaud,
was kicked of the land under pain of death ! I know as well this is
not your problem, Mr Barnett, since Politics do not care about Mining
Pioneers till they are dead, and then hail some worthless lip
services to the great men, which cost nothing to say but draw great
dividend for those who pronounce them, showing to the gallery how
attached the leaders are to value of dedication & abnegation of whom
all benefit. The merit of those dead men who lived & died in poverty
splash back then at no cost on the one who honour them with worthless
words full of recognition & gratitude. On this very special day then,
I have duty to demand from you that you so honour Dr David Stuart
Tyrwhitt, then your official Hero ( please do not pretend to the
contrary) since Mr Tyrwhitt is not eternal & his presently suffering
from some old man disease … indeed 70 soon!
In passing, please forgive the lengthy introduction since I happen to
enjoy on that particular day the privilege of writing to such
important Political man, and in the meanwhile, I am thinking about
all those years who have passed while so many in your government &
past governments all the way back to Court senior thought that
annoying case seen as major nuisance was over & done, especially since
a) the premature death of the Hon T.D. Evans, Member for Kalgoorlie &
late Attorney General who brought all that affair to the WA
Parliament & on six occasions required a Royal Inquiry over the Mining
Criminals proven swindle of 1000s Boral / Narla shareholders.
b) b) the premature death of father Bert Rutherford, a main witness in
the Collective Crimes since Corporate prospector in the smoke screen
company of Narla, wholly owned by Boral & used to shunt Turcaud
c) c) the early departure of Turcaud after 10 &1/2 years in Australia,
ruined & despaired back to his home country, France.
Yes Mr Barnett, on this particular day, you & your WA Parliament,
the Mining Criminals, the WA Mines, and WA land dept & the Federal
Parliament, quite well aware of the Collective Crimes, are all
turning into the last year or say turning onto the last leg of an
incredible generation long Cover Up of an Immense Magnitude Swindle.
I have then at this point in time, upon my authority of Australia
Greatest Mining Pioneer of all times,
since I am the only one indeed who put 3 major mines & a town on the
map, to address to you personally at this occasion my warmest
Congratulations for your perseverance, your incredible endurance in
supporting Corporate Crimes, & your resilience in maintaining that
direction although some people like the Hon T.D Evans, the President
of the Australian Prospectors Union Mr Sheppard, Dr Don Findlay
Geologist, Mr Peter Bridge Mineralogist & of course myself, have tried
to sway you all away from your firm determination to stand for
Corporate lies, thieving, swindling of trillions, criminal threats, &
finally murders & attempted murders. Your West Australia Parliament
has maintained that constant heading through a full generation soon.
Please convey to your past colleagues the Right Hon. Court Junior,
Lawrence, Gallop, Carpenter etc , your Parliament at large, your
Administrations etc the expression of my sincerest admiration. I
regret that the late Court Senior should not be there but I hope
someone will on my behalf flower the statue, since statue there is
now, of that master of embezzlement who though Politics made a
fortune of 110 millions as attest the mansions at Peppermint Grove…
and the 10 millions church which he offered to his daughter in law
Margaret, a sound investment to insure continuous bleating for his
sordid soul.
Now, you can all relax after 39 years stretch with only that little
final of one year to negotiate till landing on the 40th & last year of
that generation long saga, since at which point I will leave you alone
to enjoy in peace the well earned prizes of your Forfeiture, Deny of
Justice, Treason of Her Majesty, Falsification of History etc, with
your mates, the so deserving & generous, to your kind, Mining
Criminals. In clear the bounty keeping pouring out of the veins of our
Earth a thousand miles North, in that searing heat, spinifex, sand
dunes strewn & flies infected Great Sandy Desert.
Hence, at this point in my kind letter to you & for your govern, I
will make a overall resume of the whole history, which at long last I
have finally managed to pierce together. I must admit indeed that it
took me a long time to do so… in fact a much tougher job than to find
the 3 major deposits we know in the Great Sandy Desert, + the re-
discovery of the famed Rooney show which incidentally those smart
pukes of Mining Criminals have not as yet found + 2 other major
deposits elsewhere & in all in fact over 20 mineral deposits found in
very little time. Indeed from the time I landed in Australia to the
discovery of the known Telfer Mine, barely over 4 years elapsed & in
that time I managed to get an Australian Commercial flying licence
( in fact 3, private, commercial, crop duster & full time training)
+ of course learn Mineralogy & Geology on my own from an initial
Chemistry basis… of course not to the level of now, since in that
field as well I realized after many years of research that all was
false, hence the True Geology of which I am the proud French Founder…
since your Australia rejected me indeed
Yes, so, I was telling you how difficult it has been to me to track
down those most clever Mining Criminals of the Tyrwhitt, Searls etc
class & if it had not been to most fortuitous circumstances like for
example being brought in my hand the falsified Narla report
(discovered in a kalgoorlie demolished house) with the millions spent
in exploration, the disgruntled comments at the end of the Narla/Boral
Directors showing that after all that effort they had to sell the 40
claims for a mere 15 000 $ to the so generous Mining Criminals
accepting such risky venture ! Those good Mining Criminals so good to
give an opportunity to Narla to cut their losses …a bit of course, but
better than nothing, Hey ?
· The Hon TD Evans as former Attorney General had contact with the CIB
and this thanks to him than I learned that only a few 5 millions had
been paid underhand to the Boral Directors after scuttling their Narla
Company…directly paid in New Zealand for understandable discretion
· If was Mineralogist Peter Bridge who introduced me to Dr John Borner
of Kalgoorlie Petrologist, the one who indeed assayed my samples for
gold brought to him by the Mining Heroes Tyrwhitt & compere Thomson.
John told me tongue in cheek Quote : I saw the Telfer mine samples
well before Tyrwhiit & Thomson got there & I am pleased to know how it
went. Unquote
· Finally it was 30 years after the fact that the President of the
Prospector Union Mr Bob Sheppard really killed me with putting the
last piece in that puzzle ; in fact that 3 major companies which I
interested in trust to the Telfer Mine where in a Kalgoorlie Joint
Venture : Anglo American, WMC ( BHP now) & Newmont ( twice) That was
excellent news since at long last my quest to find out how the Mining
Criminals has so smartly steered their affairs. In fact when they made
their discoveries in Kalgoorlie, a 1000 miles away from the Great
Sandy Desert thanks to Dr Borner they had at their disposal a mere
1.550 tons of samples of sulphide rich Gossans & 11 000 assays from
Anglo Senior Geologist Ray Forma. The appraisal of my samples was part
of that Trust agreement with the Mining Criminals but it is quite
understandable that such well paid geologists such as Newmont CEO
Tyrwhitt, Newmont President Searls, Senior geologist Thomson, Barr,
Koehn, & later Atkinson would have considered that pushing to the
gutter that gallant French prospector Turcaud would be of no
consequence since he having no support in a foreign country, no
friends … further the chap was completely broke having put all his
money and guts in the venture – indeed walking up to 50 miles a day
from sunrise to sunset without complaint – Turcaud could remain poor,
he was used to it, such admirable opportunity for Glory, Recognition
could not be let escaped by Searls, Tyrwhit & Co … The Master minds
behind the Trillions dollars Swindle of Narla & Boral Shareholders !
… and indeed everything was taken away from Turcaud, even the credit,
the recognition & normal gratitude for his most valuable & remarkable
discoveries.
But then the Hon T.D Evans came on the scene & happily Court senior-
that Puke with his statue now in downtown Perth- as well as Mansaros,
Minister of Mine & Justice, took care of both The Hon Evans by
blocking the required Royal Inquiry on the one hand & as well blocking
the demand of Turcaud’s Lawyers Mr Mazza & Mr Picton Warlow Q.C for
Federal & State legal Aids. Mr Picton Warlow confided to me that never
before such rejections was received on the two counts. The Hon T.D
Evans had later to leave politics & experienced disillusion with life
which in short time pushed him to the grave.
…as for Father Bert Rutherford, the Narla corporate prospector &
former Catholic priest, main witness in the demanded Royal Inquiry, he
did not last very long as well with threatening phone call &
impossibility to find again a job …he died soon of alleged “natural”
cause.
… and you know of course what happened to Turcaud, after battling for
six long years a complete corrupt system & hoping for Justice till the
end, he finally left that Australia he loved so much, in complete
despair indeed !
Still I have to render homage to the few people who did not stand for
those Tyrwhitt, Searls & Co ‘s prospectors’ prospector practices, and
who clearly saw through the abominable murdering scheme. I wish to
remember here the late director of the Kalgoorlie School of Mines,
which I attended, Mr Keith Quartermaine, as well as George Compton,
Consultant geologist of Kalgoorlie, son of the Founder of the
Kalgoorlie School of Mines
In view of all the information I have provided to you, Mr Premier, it
is important that the line of conduct which has been the one of your
predecessors & which is yours no doubt, should be kept with due
respect to the West Australian Parliament Traditions of Corruption.
Since 39 years later & nearly a generation remote, you are only able
to reward & this without delay Dr David Stuart Tyrwhitt with the
highest Australian honour in return fo his most meritorious conduct,
according to your standards, especially in relation to services
rendered to the Mining Criminals ! Indeed Dr Tyrwhit is their needed
& standing excuse & without him they have no leg to stand on …neither
do you indeed ! Well it’s really ludicrous that no Premier of West
Australia has been able to know & state the name of the official
Mining Pioneer Tyrwhitt who officially again unearthed Trillions in
richness for Australia at large, seen in term of families’ well being,
education, housing, voyages to far away places, even buying private
planes for some of the contract miners etc Isn’t that shameful on
your part that recognition should not paid after so many years to such
fiction genius who able to write in Newmont / Newcrest official record
of the discovery :
Quote I spotted the site from the air and landed nearby in the
Desert to take samples. Signed Tyrwhitt Enquote
Isn’t that the demonstration of the talent of a talented inventive
writer indeed !!! Agree ? …except for a detail that the Mining
Criminals have not even the month, the week, the day nor the hour to
produce for that extraordinary feat of landing a Beech90 twin turbo in
a trackless desert strewn with spinifex humps, drifting dunes, nasty
unstable ground etc & taking off again after gathering samples over
the now Telfer Mine rugged terrain…spotting the site alone in the
immensity of the Great Sandy Desert is a really a feat on its own. I
can assure you of this since I prospected on foot over 3 sheets or
approx 12000 square miles of it. The desperate Mining Criminals are
only able to produce only the year for that most stupendous Tyrwhitt
discoveries.. a tragedy in my opinion needing some other opportune
inventive legerdemain! I can assure you on the other hand that Barr
of WMC truly found Nifty, indeed I took him there & hence I can vouch
for that… so Atkinson of CRA for Kintyre, although I only pinpointed
the coordinates on the map.
So many years of suffering wilfully & most maliciously endured from
both the Mining Criminals and your own West Australia Parliament
leading members, the innuendos & insults heaped upon me from all
directions of whose the most insulting was the silence from your
administrations & some members in return for pleas of Justice. This
insulting silence has been the tool of contempt of the Mining
Criminals of which they quite liberally used, 3 times they went back
on their agreement the first being the 1% free carried interest & the
last being the one reached at the highest level in New York with
Newmont Chairman Malozemoff…it did not last a week. When seeking to
enforce it 5 years later in NY, they just bought the US attorney at
law I had hired on a 40/60 contingency fee & who joined their firm
later, as I learnt. He agreed at your meeting in NY that Newmont
would be brought to court, but once I was back home the discourse
immediately changed after early meeting with the Mining Criminals & I
was put in front of the obligation by the US Attorney at Law of having
two important WA personalities flown to NY from Perth to stand as
witness in US court at my expenses of course… . Finally I signed a
release under duress & I would have signed for one dollar only, since
hooking in so doing the Mining Criminals to my name for eternity… what
I cleared in fact, did not even cover my mere prospecting costs.
Considering all the above, and at this point in time, less than a year
from me clearing out of Mining & Political Criminals’ inflicted mental
torture, it would be foolish for you not to stand the distance just a
bit more. Then the very little gratitude & recognition of which your
West Australia Parliament is able towards deserving individual, will
be then available for a most deserving usage: Honouring without fear
of interference from me that most remarkable Dr Tyrwhitt, all the
more since you have no choice since the like of it would be rejected
off hand by me, as insult added to injury…In clear you are condemned
to state the real name of the Great Sandy Desert Discoverer of Telfer
Mine & others shows, to stand for your generation long West Australia
Parliament & WA Administrations ‘ collusion with Mining Criminals in
well documented now Collective Crimes You are condemned as well to
speak up on that issue, since a copy of that letter is going to be
sent to many people & particularly to HRM The Queen, which directly is
guarantee for the highest Standards to which you are bound. Hence must
be made aware of your West Australia Parliament’s forfeiture, deny of
Justice, lack of morality & standing. Such Royal values you and your
Premier predecessors have flouted, certain of you immunity, held in
contempt, tramped underfoot convinced of your impunity & above the
Laws of Natural Justice. A generation later soon, you all appear to
have had the upper hand & the courage of the Hon T.D Evans as well as
of Father Rutherford & the bravery of Australia Greatest Mining
Pioneer of All Times Jean-Paul Turcaud, have all been in vain.
Congratulations !
Yours faithfully
20 Avenue des Guiardes
17000 La Rochelle France
Your references
The West Australian Parliament Hansard with 7 different interventions
by the Hon T.D Evans, Member for Kalgoorlie, late Attorney General,
demanding a Royal Inquiry into the Newmont Mining Corporation Criminal
Swindle of Narla / Boral shareholders of their right ownership of now
known Telfer Mine, in their successful & villainous attempt at
shunting Australia Mining Pioneer Jean-Paul Turcaud.
As well intervention of the Hon Julian, former Senior Minister &
Member for Boulder on the same issue.
My different letters to former Premiers Court & Lawrence, as well as
letter from Dr Findlay to Premier Gallop, with the shameful rebuffing
replies.
Other references
The Golden Rule
(or the True History of Telfer Mine discovery)
by the President of Australian Prospectors & Leaseholders Union, Mr
Bob Sheppard
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
The Official History of Telfer Mine debugged
By one of Australia leading Geologist, Dr Don Findlay. PhD geology
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
ABC report.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htmfuyuyuyuyu
David Johnston
wrote:
>I have some more enlightenment to shine into the dim recess's
>of that scone of yours.
>
>Every single person of sound mind is a bigot.
>
>It is perfectly natural for people to graduate and form social
>networks with people of like mind, just as it perfectly natural
>for people to withdraw from people not of like mind and therebye
>demonstrate a preferance or reluctance to associate with others.
>i.e. bigotry.
>
Except of course that isn't the definition of bigotry.
regn.pickfod
Don't let the door slam your arse on the way out, Sissyboy.
regn.pickfod
Bigot
[quote stt]
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group,
religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those
who differ.
[quote fin]
intolerant
[quote stt]
not tolerating or respecting beliefs, opinions, usages, manners,
etc., different from one's own, as in political or religious matters;
bigoted.
[quote fin]
By disagreeing with me on politics or religion (or other things)
you demonstrate bigotry.
Seon Ferguson
Yeah when you bash someone just because of how they choose to live their
life style it isn't fear. It is hate. But when you are afraid that gay
people will turn everyone gay that is a irrational fear.
>>> People find rock spiders disgusting and want to crush them under their
>>> feet.
>>> It isn't an irrational fear.
>>>
>> Gay people aren't hurting anyone except for people who hate them because
>> of their lifestyle.
>>
>
> They have killed and continue to kill people with thier lifestyle. AIDS
> was
> spread across the world by Homosexuals. There is a new highly resistant
> Staph being spreadvia Homosexuals across America and here in Australia
> already or
> due soon. Homosexuals are not harmless as you like to think.
>
Straight people spread aids as well. Aids is spread by un protected sex.
Seon Ferguson
Ok then how would gay marriage make *me* perform perverted acts? How would
it change me form having sexual feelings towards women to liking guys or
wanting to perform perverted acts?
regn.pickfod
Then why have all these people who should know better calling
other people Homophobes when it plainly does not apply?
A reason is because people like you find it easier.
It is hate. But when you are afraid
> that gay people will turn everyone gay that is a irrational fear.
>
except I'm not saying that and I doubt anyone else is.
>>>> People find rock spiders disgusting and want to crush them under
>>>> their feet.
>>>> It isn't an irrational fear.
>>>>
>>> Gay people aren't hurting anyone except for people who hate them
>>> because of their lifestyle.
>>>
>>
>> They have killed and continue to kill people with thier lifestyle.
>> AIDS was
>> spread across the world by Homosexuals. There is a new highly
>> resistant Staph being spreadvia Homosexuals across America and here
>> in Australia already or
>> due soon. Homosexuals are not harmless as you like to think.
>>
> Straight people spread aids as well. Aids is spread by un protected
> sex.
so do druggies but it was queers who spread it around the world.
Aids is spread various ways but the most risky sex is
unprotected anal sex. Circuncised penis apparantly has a
lower risk than uncircumcised though I believe it is still
being debated. It is generally not considered as desirable
IMO in the medicine world to `trim the candle' so
claimed benefits are contentious.
regn.pickfod
Consumate
[quote stt]
to complete (the union of a marriage) by the first marital sexual
intercourse
[quote fin]
How
> would it change me form having sexual feelings towards women to
> liking guys or wanting to perform perverted acts?
You probably lke guys. You doth protesteth too much your
Heterosexuality.
Seon Ferguson
"regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
news:4b26...@news.comindico.com.au...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aids#Cause
HIV spreads readily through heterosexual sex in Africa, but less so
elsewhere. One possibility being researched is that schistosomiasis, which
affects up to 50% of women in parts of Africa, damages the lining of the
vagina.[55][56]
Exposure to blood-borne pathogens
CDC poster from 1989 highlighting the threat of AIDS associated with drug
use
This transmission route is particularly relevant to intravenous drug users,
hemophiliacs and recipients of blood transfusions and blood products.
Sharing and reusing syringes contaminated with HIV-infected blood represents
a major risk for infection with HIV.
Needle sharing is the cause of one third of all new HIV-infections in North
America, China, and Eastern Europe. The risk of being infected with HIV from
a single prick with a needle that has been used on an HIV-infected person is
thought to be about 1 in 150 (see table above). Post-exposure prophylaxis
with anti-HIV drugs can further reduce this risk.[57]
This route can also affect people who give and receive tattoos and
piercings. Universal precautions are frequently not followed in both
sub-Saharan Africa and much of Asia because of both a shortage of supplies
and inadequate training.
The WHO estimates that approximately 2.5% of all HIV infections in
sub-Saharan Africa are transmitted through unsafe healthcare injections.[58]
Because of this, the United Nations General Assembly has urged the nations
of the world to implement precautions to prevent HIV transmission by health
workers.[59]
The risk of transmitting HIV to blood transfusion recipients is extremely
low in developed countries where improved donor selection and HIV screening
is performed. However, according to the WHO, the overwhelming majority of
the world's population does not have access to safe blood and between 5% and
10% of the world's HIV infections come from transfusion of infected blood
and blood products.[60]
Perinatal transmission
The transmission of the virus from the mother to the child can occur in
utero during the last weeks of pregnancy and at childbirth. In the absence
of treatment, the transmission rate between a mother and her child during
pregnancy, labor and delivery is 25%.
However, when the mother takes antiretroviral therapy and gives birth by
caesarean section, the rate of transmission is just 1%.[61] The risk of
infection is influenced by the viral load of the mother at birth, with the
higher the viral load, the higher the risk. Breastfeeding also increases the
risk of transmission by about 4 %.[62]
Misconceptions
Main article: HIV and AIDS misconceptions
A number of misconceptions have arisen surrounding HIV/AIDS. Three of the
most common are that AIDS can spread through casual contact, that sexual
intercourse with a virgin will cure AIDS, and that HIV can infect only
homosexual men and drug users. Other misconceptions are that any act of anal
intercourse between gay men can lead to AIDS infection, and that open
discussion of homosexuality and HIV in schools will lead to increased rates
of homosexuality and AIDS
Seon Ferguson
"regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
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I'm too old for this your gay no your gay childish. You must be in high
school or something. Anyway I will rephrase my question so hopefully you
will answer it without resorting to childish tactics:
How would it change YOU form having sexual feelings towards women to liking
regn.pickfod
Seon Ferguson
"regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
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Your not going to answer my question, are you?
regn.pickfod
> "regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
> news:4b26...@news.comindico.com.au...
>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>> "regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>>> news:4b25...@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>>
<brevity snip>
Excellent you are doing some research. Seeing how nothing I said
disagrees with this so I'm not sure why you posted it other than
to demonstrate your skill with cut n paste.
Seon Ferguson
"regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
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It shows gay sex isn't the only way the aids virus was spread.
regn.pickfod
If you ask your question properly, I might.
If you 're asking me what will make me take a walk on the wildside?
2 or three bubbas holding me down.
what would get you shimmying up the pole?
desperation, temptation and drugs.
How does same sex marriage do this?
it helps create a less moral social environment where Homosexualaty is
seen as less abnormal..
regn.pickfod
bzzzz. not _was_ spread, it says how it _is_ spread...
There's a big difference, Grasshopper.
AIDS _was_ spread to the world by Homosexuals and _is_ now being spread
by the various means mentioned. Except Africa. Homosexuals
didn't take it to Africa cause it originated in Africa..
Seon Ferguson
So what, it will "turn" people gay and somehow change their sexuality so
they perform perverted acts?
regn.pickfod
read this bit again
Seon Ferguson
And so everyone is turned gay or perverted because gay people are allowed to
marry?
regn.pickfod
That is what you apparantly keep claiming
Seon Ferguson
That is from you. You have failed to make me as afraid of homosexuality as
you seem to be. I wonder why your so afraid...
regn.pickfod
Saying I'm afraid of Homosexuals is something else you keep claiming
with the `Homophobe' claims and now just claiming I'm `so afraid`
`You're wromg on both counts and certainly couldn't find any quote from
me that supports these claims of yours.
btw, that mistake you keep making re: mixing up your / you're; it really
makes you look
stupid you might want to give it a bit of thought
Seon Ferguson
"regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
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LMAO I love it! you say my bad grammar makes me look stupid but make typos
when you point out my bad grammar Haha. What is wromg?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAA!
And if you believe gay people will somehow pervert society then you have an
irrational fear of gay people. Thanks for the laughs though I love it when
people make typos when they point out other people's spelling or grammar
mistakes.
"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible!"- Ralph, The Simpsons
Harry Heidelberg
> David Johnston wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:49:52 GMT, "regn.pickfod" <re...@mysoul.cop.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have some more enlightenment to shine into the dim recess's
>>> of that scone of yours.
>>>
>>> Every single person of sound mind is a bigot.
>>>
>>> It is perfectly natural for people to graduate and form social
>>> networks with people of like mind, just as it perfectly natural
>>> for people to withdraw from people not of like mind and therebye
>>> demonstrate a preferance or reluctance to associate with others.
>>> i.e. bigotry.
>>>
>>
>> Except of course that isn't the definition of bigotry.
>
> in dictionary.com
>
> Bigot
> [quote stt]
> n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group,
> religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those
> who differ.
> [quote fin]
note that bit about "and is intolerant of those who differ".
The lack of tolerance is vital to your posted definition of "bigot".
>
> intolerant
> [quote stt]
> not tolerating or respecting beliefs, opinions, usages, manners,
> etc., different from one's own, as in political or religious matters;
> bigoted.
> [quote fin]
>
> By disagreeing with me on politics or religion (or other things)
> you demonstrate bigotry.
If you (one) disagrees with another then there is difference of opinion.
If you (one) will not tolerate such disagreement then one is a bigot.
Hypothetically -
By disagreeing with me on politics or religion (or other things)
you demonstrate bigotry ... if you show that you (one) are/(is) intolerant.
'Til then you only have a demonstrated difference, or even bias.
You will not have demonstrated bigotry.
It might well be there, but it is not yet demonstrated.
Harry
"It is in the shelter of each other that people live."
Irish Proverb
Benway (original non-Zionist)
*******************************************
HIV/AIDS, anal syphilis and various blights are
the gay gifts to the rest of us. We owe gays nothing!
At least gayness is not genetic, and perhaps we
can be relieved that gays do not breed (much).
BTW, sociopathic politicians and their billionaire
masters, are a far bigger threat than gays:-
Alien sleazebag's political "generosity"
*
http://www.democracywatch.com.au/newspaper.html
*
The wealthy attract the politically powerful.
Their money opens doors. Sydney's biggest housing
apartment developer, Harry Triguboff, has got
plenty of it. He is feted by both sides of
politics because he has been a big donor to both
sides. His largesse has been legendary and other
property developers also recognised the need to
support the democratic process. The Property
Council of Australia equated it with every
citizen's "democratic right" to "provide
assistance to political parties". What can be
given freely, however, can freely be withdrawn.
Long a beneficiary of Mr Triguboff and other
developers, the state ALP has been reminded
(because it always knew the reality) that the
Meriton founder's generosity did not come without
strings. Only a political mug would have thought
otherwise...
*******************************************
regn.pickfod
By challenging / disagreeing with a message I have written or said or
have stuck on a bumper sticker, you are using what authority you have
not to let that message slide unchallenged or not disagreed with and
resultantly display intolerance for the message and if that message is
about particular ideas, beliefs or opinions it is bigotry
To Tolerate is to let it pass unhindered but
it may also be plain apathy.
regn.pickfod
Typo's are accidental, your / you're spelling mistakes are not accidental
> And if you believe gay people will somehow pervert society then you
> have an irrational fear of gay people.
There you go with the fear thing again.You see a dog eat it's vomit and
think it's disgusting. Whereas you have come to the conclusion it means
I'm afraid of the dog.
You need to give it a rethink, buddy.
Thanks for the laughs though I
> love it when people make typos when they point out other people's
> spelling or grammar mistakes.
;^)
>
> "Me Fail English? That's Unpossible!"- Ralph, The Simpsons
"Widows are far better than brides. They don't tell, they won't yell,
they don't swell, they rarely smell, and they're grateful as hell. "
RAH
Seon Ferguson
You're trying to save yourself.
>> And if you believe gay people will somehow pervert society then you
>> have an irrational fear of gay people.
>
> There you go with the fear thing again.You see a dog eat it's vomit and
> think it's disgusting. Whereas you have come to the conclusion it means
> I'm afraid of the dog.
>
But you think gay people will turn the whole world gay. That is ignorance
and fear. As I explained before we cannot control our sexuality. We can
ignore it and pretend it isn't there but deep down we are what we are.
regn.pickfod
>>> And if you believe gay people will somehow pervert society then you
>>> have an irrational fear of gay people.
>>
>> There you go with the fear thing again.You see a dog eat it's vomit
>> and think it's disgusting. Whereas you have come to the conclusion
>> it means I'm afraid of the dog.
>>
> But you think gay people will turn the whole world gay.
you are the only person saying this. go spend a few weeks trying to find a
cite
where I support this claim. Again you have come to the wrong conclusion
That is
> ignorance and fear.
I am disgusted at the dog eating it's vomit. I am not afraid of the dog.
You're the ignorant one.
As I explained before we cannot control our
> sexuality.
absolute nonsense. Look up celibacy
We can ignore it and pretend it isn't there but deep down
> we are what we are.
go tell the Spartans
regn.pickfod
Do me a favour and stop calling Homosexuals `Gay`
Gay is being happy and light hearted
Homosexuals teach people to use the word Gay as it puts
Homosexuality in a good `party atmosphere' light.
-there's nothing Gay about cruising public toilet blocks
lookinng for sucki sucki
Seon Ferguson
Ok I take it all back. Why is gay marriage so bad? Why should I give a rats
arse if two people from the same sex get married?
>
> That is
>> ignorance and fear.
>
> I am disgusted at the dog eating it's vomit. I am not afraid of the dog.
> You're the ignorant one.
>
> As I explained before we cannot control our
>> sexuality.
>
> absolute nonsense. Look up celibacy
>
We can control our lifestyle. Gay people can find Jebus and go to church and
reject their urges but they are still gay. LIFESTYLE is choice. Sexuality
isn't.
> We can ignore it and pretend it isn't there but deep down
>> we are what we are.
>
> go tell the Spartans
>
Sure I'll build a time machine and invent a language translator like on Star
Trek.
Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology
well documented 3 Collective Crimes, the following events will occur
in the poor country of Australia on my express ORDER !
Sustained 50°C temperature for days on end !
Megafires galore gutting all cites of the Toadland except Brisbane,
which will be spared as I have decreed on reasons of my own !
Whole cities running out of water, Adelaide being the first on the
first days of 2010
... and more to come if the Mining & Political Criminals don't come
right & scramble indeed into action !!!
Je Commande et la Nature obeit à ma Voix
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~
for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947