Who are the real terrorists
bringyagrogalong
1400 Palestinians dead (including 300 children) and over 4000 wounded
with much of Gaza’s infrastructure - houses, hospitals, schools,
power, and wells, reduced to rubble. Nine Israeli soldiers were killed
inside the Gaza Strip, four by friendly fire. When hostilities had
ceased Israel tightened the long-time blokade into the Strip, making
rebuilding almost impossible.
In September, the Goldstone Report, the result of a UN fact-finding
mission into the war, concluded that Israel, despite its claims of
purely military and political objectives, had launched “a deliberate
disproportionate attack designed to punish, humilitate and terrorise
the civilian population” and crush it economically.
Now, before the Israeli appologists come running out with their
predictable and tiresome mantra of “anti-Semite” against any criticism
leveled at Israel, I ask only this of you... Substitute the word
Israel with Green, Gaza with Blue and Palestinians with Reds, then
read the post again and tell me who the real terrorists are. The
Blues or the Reds?
It’s amazing how crystal clear the real situation becomes when
removing decades of Israeli propoganda, isn’t it?
Mosher
The UN's Facts on Israel are as believable as their facts on Climate
Change.
The UN is a corrupt utterly derelict organization and should be
dissolved.
Al Smith
> On Dec 13, 8:04 pm, bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>> Early this year Israel attacked the Gaza Strip which left more than
>> 1400 Palestinians dead (including 300 children) and over 4000 wounded
>> power, and wells, reduced to rubble. Nine Israeli soldiers were killed
>> inside the Gaza Strip, four by friendly fire. When hostilities had
>> ceased Israel tightened the long-time blokade into the Strip, making
>> rebuilding almost impossible.
>>
>> In September, the Goldstone Report, the result of a UN fact-finding
>> mission into the war, concluded that Israel, despite its claims of
>> disproportionate attack designed to punish, humilitate and terrorise
>>
>> Now, before the Israeli appologists come running out with their
>> leveled at Israel, I ask only this of you... Substitute the word
>> Israel with Green, Gaza with Blue and Palestinians with Reds, then
>> read the post again and tell me who the real terrorists are. The
>> Blues or the Reds?
>>
>> removing decades of Israeli propoganda, isn�t it?
>
> The UN's Facts on Israel are as believable as their facts on Climate
> Change.
>
> The UN is a corrupt utterly derelict organization and should be
> dissolved.
The UN is wrong on climate change, and right on Israel.
-Al-
Mosher
> On 12/13/2009 6:09 AM, Mosher wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 13, 8:04 pm, bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> >> Early this year Israel attacked the Gaza Strip which left more than
> >> 1400 Palestinians dead (including 300 children) and over 4000 wounded
> >> power, and wells, reduced to rubble. Nine Israeli soldiers were killed
> >> inside the Gaza Strip, four by friendly fire. When hostilities had
> >> ceased Israel tightened the long-time blokade into the Strip, making
> >> rebuilding almost impossible.
>
> >> In September, the Goldstone Report, the result of a UN fact-finding
> >> mission into the war, concluded that Israel, despite its claims of
> >> disproportionate attack designed to punish, humilitate and terrorise
>
> >> Now, before the Israeli appologists come running out with their
> >> leveled at Israel, I ask only this of you... Substitute the word
> >> Israel with Green, Gaza with Blue and Palestinians with Reds, then
> >> read the post again and tell me who the real terrorists are. The
> >> Blues or the Reds?
>
> >> removing decades of Israeli propoganda, isn’t it?
>
> > The UN's Facts on Israel are as believable as their facts on Climate
> > Change.
>
> > The UN is a corrupt utterly derelict organization and should be
> > dissolved.
>
> The UN is wrong on climate change, and right on Israel.
>
> -Al-
In answer to the first question:
People who don't wear uniforms and hide behind women and children when
retaliated against are terrorist.
Krudd the Dud
<sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
<huge uninterested yawn>
Did you squeak again from your corner, SerGay?
Please remind us again about "no bankruptcies under Rudd".
ROFLMAO!
bringyagrogalong
And the criteria for that is?
Wait! Let me guess.
They don't agree with your narrow, jaundiced view of the world?
michael
They are right both on climate change and on Israel.
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Moslem cartoon character mohammed was a paedophile 6th century warlord and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems
Wassim Noujeim (shitskin moslem Faris Jawad) left Canada to attend a
terrorist training camp in Jordan, and he spent his last nigh in Canda
at this hotel : MONTREAL-AIRPORT,,6500 COTE DE LIESSE,MONTREAL, QC
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Roy
Moslem cartoon character mohammed was a paedophile 6th century warlord and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems
and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement
brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under
subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA.,
Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
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helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
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mehya...@hotmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
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fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
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,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
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'\' _.7'
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
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'\' _.7'
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
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'\' _.7'
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
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politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
Jordan Data Communication Ltd.
�R.L.Measures
<e068140b-544a-4368...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> Early this year Israel attacked the Gaza Strip which left more than
> 1400 Palestinians dead (including 300 children) and over 4000 wounded
> with much of Gaza=92s infrastructure - houses, hospitals, schools,
> power, and wells, reduced to rubble. Nine Israeli soldiers were killed
> inside the Gaza Strip, four by friendly fire. When hostilities had
> ceased Israel tightened the long-time blokade into the Strip, making
> rebuilding almost impossible.
>
> In September, the Goldstone Report, the result of a UN fact-finding
> mission into the war, concluded that Israel, despite its claims of
> purely military and political objectives, had launched =93a deliberate
> disproportionate attack designed to punish, humilitate and terrorise
> the civilian population=94 and crush it economically.
>
> Now, before the Israeli appologists come running out with their
> predictable and tiresome mantra of =93anti-Semite=94 against any criticism
> leveled at Israel, I ask only this of you... Substitute the word
> Israel with Green, Gaza with Blue and Palestinians with Reds, then
> read the post again and tell me who the real terrorists are. The
> Blues or the Reds?
>
> It=92s amazing how crystal clear the real situation becomes when
> removing decades of Israeli propoganda, isn=92t it?
� Propaganda vs. propaganda.
--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
Al Smith
> most of which have been sponsored by 'legitimate' governments in
> Syria, Iran, Egypt, Algeria, Libya and the list goes on.
>
Compared to the Israelis, the Palestinians are saints. All that the
Palestinians did, they were provoked into doing by the unceasing
crimes Israel committed against them for decades. They were fighting
for their land and their human rights. They had every right to kill
those who came to take both away from them. Let me be clear ... the
Israelis are *completely* in the *wrong* on the Palestinian issue.
There is no shadow of a question about it.
-Al-
cornholio
> On 12/13/2009 2:14 PM, E. Barry Bruyea wrote:
>
>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >> On 12/13/2009 6:09 AM, Mosher wrote:
> >>> On Dec 13, 8:04 pm, bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> >>>> Early this year Israel attacked the Gaza Strip which left more than
> >>>> 1400 Palestinians dead (including 300 children) and over 4000 wounded
> >>>> power, and wells, reduced to rubble. Nine Israeli soldiers were killed
> >>>> inside the Gaza Strip, four by friendly fire. When hostilities had
> >>>> ceased Israel tightened the long-time blokade into the Strip, making
> >>>> rebuilding almost impossible.
>
> >>>> In September, the Goldstone Report, the result of a UN fact-finding
> >>>> mission into the war, concluded that Israel, despite its claims of
> >>>> disproportionate attack designed to punish, humilitate and terrorise
>
> >>>> Now, before the Israeli appologists come running out with their
> >>>> leveled at Israel, I ask only this of you... Substitute the word
> >>>> Israel with Green, Gaza with Blue and Palestinians with Reds, then
> >>>> read the post again and tell me who the real terrorists are. The
> >>>> Blues or the Reds?
>
> >>>> removing decades of Israeli propoganda, isn’t it?
> >>> The UN's Facts on Israel are as believable as their facts on Climate
> >>> Change.
>
> >>> The UN is a corrupt utterly derelict organization and should be
> >>> dissolved.
>
> >> The UN is wrong on climate change, and right on Israel.
>
> >> -Al-
>
> > And ignores Palestinian Terrorists and their 40 year list of crimes,
> > most of which have been sponsored by 'legitimate' governments in
> > Syria, Iran, Egypt, Algeria, Libya and the list goes on.
>
> Compared to the Israelis, the Palestinians are saints. All that the
> Palestinians did, they were provoked into doing by the unceasing
> crimes Israel committed against them for decades. They were fighting
> for their land and their human rights. They had every right to kill
> those who came to take both away from them. Let me be clear ... the
> Israelis are *completely* in the *wrong* on the Palestinian issue.
> There is no shadow of a question about it.
>
> -Al-
Funny how the Palesimians have plenty of time to terrorize and
oppress the few Christians living among them though.
Tex
"Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
news:hg3g4k$ufe$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Compared to the Israelis, the Palestinians are saints.
Nope. The 'Palestinians' are still Nazis. No wonder they were good friends
of Hitler.
>All that the Palestinians did, they were provoked into doing by the
>unceasing crimes Israel committed against them for decades.
Which "crimes" were they then?
>They were fighting for their land and their human rights.
What "land" would that be? The mythical country of "Palestine"?
> They had every right to kill those who came to take both away from them.
> Let me be clear ... the Israelis are *completely* in the *wrong* on the
> Palestinian issue. There is no shadow of a question about it.
Too bad you're wrong.
Aaronovich
"E. Barry Bruyea" <terml...@democracy.com> wrote in message
news:1i4ci559t4l4tnhj7...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:42:11 -0400, Al Smith <inv...@address.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 12/13/2009 2:14 PM, E. Barry Bruyea wrote:
>>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:11:24 -0400, Al Smith <inv...@address.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/13/2009 6:09 AM, Mosher wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 13, 8:04 pm, bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Early this year Israel attacked the Gaza Strip which left more than
>>>>>> 1400 Palestinians dead (including 300 children) and over 4000 wounded
>>>>>> power, and wells, reduced to rubble. Nine Israeli soldiers were
>>>>>> killed
>>>>>> inside the Gaza Strip, four by friendly fire. When hostilities had
>>>>>> ceased Israel tightened the long-time blokade into the Strip, making
>>>>>> rebuilding almost impossible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In September, the Goldstone Report, the result of a UN fact-finding
>>>>>> mission into the war, concluded that Israel, despite its claims of
>>>>>> disproportionate attack designed to punish, humilitate and terrorise
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, before the Israeli appologists come running out with their
>>>>>> leveled at Israel, I ask only this of you... Substitute the word
>>>>>> Israel with Green, Gaza with Blue and Palestinians with Reds, then
>>>>>> read the post again and tell me who the real terrorists are. The
>>>>>> Blues or the Reds?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> removing decades of Israeli propoganda, isn't it?
>>>>> The UN's Facts on Israel are as believable as their facts on Climate
>>>>> Change.
>>>>>
>>>>> The UN is a corrupt utterly derelict organization and should be
>>>>> dissolved.
>>>>
>>>> The UN is wrong on climate change, and right on Israel.
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>>
>>>
>>> And ignores Palestinian Terrorists and their 40 year list of crimes,
>>> most of which have been sponsored by 'legitimate' governments in
>>> Syria, Iran, Egypt, Algeria, Libya and the list goes on.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Compared to the Israelis, the Palestinians are saints. All that the
>>Palestinians did, they were provoked into doing by the unceasing
>>crimes Israel committed against them for decades. They were fighting
>>for their land and their human rights. They had every right to kill
>>those who came to take both away from them. Let me be clear ... the
>>Israelis are *completely* in the *wrong* on the Palestinian issue.
>>There is no shadow of a question about it.
>>
>>-Al-
>
>
> and reality goes out the window. Good luck with that.
The hate, old mate, is coming from those of your tribe.
I have been here two weeks only and all I have learned is the Jew will
descend to any level to try to destroy any who criticizes him. There is a
thread here asking Jew and Gentile alike of the condone the behavior of a
Jew called Jacosbon who has promised to "out" every revisionist he has dirt
on if I continue posting.
It is that type of blatant attack upon free speech with the thread of
racially motivated attack that makes people dislike the Jew.
>
Moslem cartoon character mohammed was a paedophile 6th century warlord and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems
and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement
brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under
subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA.,
Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the
slayer of fecal stained moslems Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
Al Smith
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:42:11 -0400, Al Smith <inv...@address.com>
> and reality goes out the window. Good luck with that.
>
Israel is and has been completely in the wrong on the entire
Palestinian question from the very beginning. It is only in the past
decade that this has become so painfully obvious that it is
impossible for Zionist PR propaganda to conceal and distort the
truth, but if you look back in history you can see that it was true
right after the founding of modern Israel. It's always been the
Zionist game plan.
The goal has always been to steal the land of the Palestinians and
to drive them out, or to turn them into landless, obedient,
second-class serfs useful for doing the physical labor the Zionists
consider beneath them.
The propaganda consists in hiding the aggressive crimes committed by
the so-called "settlers" and the IDF against the Palestinians, and
representing any act of rebellion or defiance against these crimes
by the Arabs as "terrorism."
The Palestinians are not terrorists, and never have been terrorists.
They are resistance freedom fighters, fighting to regain what has
been stolen from them, and to keep what little they still possess
from being stolen in the future. Since they have no conventional
army, they have been forced to resist Israeli crimes using guerrilla
tactics. That's all they've got to work with. Sticks and stones.
Fists. A few pathetic unguided rockets that do nothing more than
leave smudges on the street when they hit.
Meanwhile the Zionists have been systematically provoking the
Palestinians, then responding to any weak expression of resistance
with massive force using American killing machines. It doesn't take
an Einstein to see what is going on. The Zionists want the Arab
land, and since they have no compassion or decency, no conscience,
no honor, they are just going to keep stealing it until they have it
all, and the Palestinians are driven off their own lands or murdered.
-Al-
Al Smith
It's fascinating to watch how quickly and how consistantly the same
old, tired slanders and insults appear when any criticism is offered
about Israel or Zionism. It's so mindlessly reflexive, it is comic.
Meanwhile, Israel continues to be the single greatest danger to
world peace, and the most evil nation on the face of the Earth.
-Al-
�R.L.Measures
<trop...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> "Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
> news:hg3g4k$ufe$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > Compared to the Israelis, the Palestinians are saints.
>
> Nope. The 'Palestinians' are still Nazis. No wonder they were good friends
> of Hitler.
>
� Indeed. During WW-II there were Palestinian volunteers who wanted to
come and help the Nazi gas Jews.
> >All that the Palestinians did, they were provoked into doing by the
> >unceasing crimes Israel committed against them for decades.
>
> Which "crimes" were they then?
>
> >They were fighting for their land and their human rights.
>
> What "land" would that be? The mythical country of "Palestine"?
>
> > They had every right to kill those who came to take both away from them.
> > Let me be clear ... the Israelis are *completely* in the *wrong* on the
> > Palestinian issue. There is no shadow of a question about it.
>
> Too bad you're wrong.
--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
bringyagrogalong
> "Al Smith" <inva...@address.com> wrote in message
>
> > Compared to the Israelis, the Palestinians are saints.
>
> Nope. The 'Palestinians' are still Nazis. No wonder they were good friends
> of Hitler.
>
> >All that the Palestinians did, they were provoked into doing by the
> >unceasing crimes Israel committed against them for decades.
>
> Which "crimes" were they then?
>
> >They were fighting for their land and their human rights.
>
> What "land" would that be? The mythical country of "Palestine"?
>
> > They had every right to kill those who came to take both away from them.
> > Let me be clear ... the Israelis are *completely* in the *wrong* on the
> > Palestinian issue. There is no shadow of a question about it.
>
> Too bad you're wrong.
But you said, and I quote: “Hamas are anti-nazis”.
It's a bit late in the day to change your mind about the Israeli's
being Nazis.
Tex
<CozSergeIsPoorHereAreSomeDots...@FakeNYEParty.net.au> wrote in message
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-----
Where did I say that Sergey? I notice you couldn't provide a URL. But that's
no surprise, given that you've shown tonight you can't figure out how Google
Groups works. LOL
Mosher
Well you dopey goon tell me the last time Israel initiated any
conflict in the region?
And then tell me how many resolutions the UN has passed condemning
Israel since that date?
Your a turd aren't you.
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
Australia Mining Pioneer R
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine),
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology
To
West Australia Premier
The Right Hon Colin Barnett
6000 Perth WA
Australia
Copies to:
HRM The Queen of Australia, Elisabeth II à Londres & their E. the
Governors of WA & Australia
Prime Minister of Australia Right Hon Kevin Rudd at Canberra
La Rochelle on the 14th of October 2009
Sir,
Today is the 39th anniversary of the discoveries of the Great Sandy
Desert major deposits by an independent mining prospector named Jean-
Paul Turcaud. To this date the Newmont / Newcrest / BHP & Boral mining
Companies, thereafter called the Mining Criminals for convenience,
have been promoting some Dr David Stuart Tyrwhitt, former CEO of
Newmont, as the official discoverer of such huge & worthy resources
for the State of West Australia & Australia at large. I have in that
respect written to you shortly after your election to bring that
matter to your attention & as well phoned your private secretary, but
received no answer. Something which anyway I was anticipating, since
in the direct line of the positions adopted as well by the WA Mines &
Land administrations for a full generation standing & aiming at
covering a massive criminal swindle, and questioning indeed the
legality of the Mining Criminals ‘ properties of Telfer Mine & this
since the very beginning is putting your whole institution in an
extremely delicate position to say the least. Hence better to ignore
such importune query and reply by the ultimate in matter of insults :
silence;
It’s an interesting point to remark that in previous correspondences
to me from former Premiers : Court Junior, Lawrence & Gallop ( in
that case to Dr Don Findlay), although they were strongly refuting
that I was the independent prospector & right discoverer who thanks
to his exceptional courage, stamina & geological sense put Telfer Mine
on the map, at no time was proposed as alternative the name of the
Mining Criminals ‘ official fraud Tyrwhitt, as the Mining Hero who
should be rightly honoured in consequences. Why, is it the expenses of
casting a statue in homage to the great man, as in the case of Hannan
of Kalgoorlie’s fame only 10 years after his discovery of the Golden
mile, who made the West Australia Parliament balking at the decision ?
Why again since the overwhelming rich Telfer Mine mineral deposit is
estimated at 2400 km², which was my finding incidentally. I feel this
is acting very mean with regard to such a tremendous Mining Criminal
as Tyrwhitt, hailed for a generation soon, both by the Mining
Criminals & the West Australia Parliament & Administrations, and
incontrovertible facts support my assertion, as the Mining Hero he has
pretended to be ! although now he is rather adopting a very low
profile on that issue !
I know there is is a completely mundane question I could put to you,
to your Parliament, to PM Rudd etc. now, since Tyrwhitt through all
his life has made his fame out of his falsely acquired achievement,
also the Mining Criminals have made a fortune as well as their
employees out of my discoveries & your Parliament has retired great
satisfaction from such mining operations as well as still doing so now
& for a century still… while the True Discoverer, Jean-Paul Turcaud,
was kicked of the land under pain of death ! I know as well this is
not your problem, Mr Barnett, since Politics do not care about Mining
Pioneers till they are dead, and then hail some worthless lip
services to the great men, which cost nothing to say but draw great
dividend for those who pronounce them, showing to the gallery how
attached the leaders are to value of dedication & abnegation of whom
all benefit. The merit of those dead men who lived & died in poverty
splash back then at no cost on the one who honour them with worthless
words full of recognition & gratitude. On this very special day then,
I have duty to demand from you that you so honour Dr David Stuart
Tyrwhitt, then your official Hero ( please do not pretend to the
contrary) since Mr Tyrwhitt is not eternal & his presently suffering
from some old man disease … indeed 70 soon!
In passing, please forgive the lengthy introduction since I happen to
enjoy on that particular day the privilege of writing to such
important Political man, and in the meanwhile, I am thinking about
all those years who have passed while so many in your government &
past governments all the way back to Court senior thought that
annoying case seen as major nuisance was over & done, especially since
a) the premature death of the Hon T.D. Evans, Member for Kalgoorlie &
late Attorney General who brought all that affair to the WA
Parliament & on six occasions required a Royal Inquiry over the Mining
Criminals proven swindle of 1000s Boral / Narla shareholders.
b) b) the premature death of father Bert Rutherford, a main witness in
the Collective Crimes since Corporate prospector in the smoke screen
company of Narla, wholly owned by Boral & used to shunt Turcaud
c) c) the early departure of Turcaud after 10 &1/2 years in Australia,
ruined & despaired back to his home country, France.
Yes Mr Barnett, on this particular day, you & your WA Parliament,
the Mining Criminals, the WA Mines, and WA land dept & the Federal
Parliament, quite well aware of the Collective Crimes, are all
turning into the last year or say turning onto the last leg of an
incredible generation long Cover Up of an Immense Magnitude Swindle.
I have then at this point in time, upon my authority of Australia
Greatest Mining Pioneer of all times,
since I am the only one indeed who put 3 major mines & a town on the
map, to address to you personally at this occasion my warmest
Congratulations for your perseverance, your incredible endurance in
supporting Corporate Crimes, & your resilience in maintaining that
direction although some people like the Hon T.D Evans, the President
of the Australian Prospectors Union Mr Sheppard, Dr Don Findlay
Geologist, Mr Peter Bridge Mineralogist & of course myself, have tried
to sway you all away from your firm determination to stand for
Corporate lies, thieving, swindling of trillions, criminal threats, &
finally murders & attempted murders. Your West Australia Parliament
has maintained that constant heading through a full generation soon.
Please convey to your past colleagues the Right Hon. Court Junior,
Lawrence, Gallop, Carpenter etc , your Parliament at large, your
Administrations etc the expression of my sincerest admiration. I
regret that the late Court Senior should not be there but I hope
someone will on my behalf flower the statue, since statue there is
now, of that master of embezzlement who though Politics made a
fortune of 110 millions as attest the mansions at Peppermint Grove…
and the 10 millions church which he offered to his daughter in law
Margaret, a sound investment to insure continuous bleating for his
sordid soul.
Now, you can all relax after 39 years stretch with only that little
final of one year to negotiate till landing on the 40th & last year of
that generation long saga, since at which point I will leave you alone
to enjoy in peace the well earned prizes of your Forfeiture, Deny of
Justice, Treason of Her Majesty, Falsification of History etc, with
your mates, the so deserving & generous, to your kind, Mining
Criminals. In clear the bounty keeping pouring out of the veins of our
Earth a thousand miles North, in that searing heat, spinifex, sand
dunes strewn & flies infected Great Sandy Desert.
Hence, at this point in my kind letter to you & for your govern, I
will make a overall resume of the whole history, which at long last I
have finally managed to pierce together. I must admit indeed that it
took me a long time to do so… in fact a much tougher job than to find
the 3 major deposits we know in the Great Sandy Desert, + the re-
discovery of the famed Rooney show which incidentally those smart
pukes of Mining Criminals have not as yet found + 2 other major
deposits elsewhere & in all in fact over 20 mineral deposits found in
very little time. Indeed from the time I landed in Australia to the
discovery of the known Telfer Mine, barely over 4 years elapsed & in
that time I managed to get an Australian Commercial flying licence
( in fact 3, private, commercial, crop duster & full time training)
+ of course learn Mineralogy & Geology on my own from an initial
Chemistry basis… of course not to the level of now, since in that
field as well I realized after many years of research that all was
false, hence the True Geology of which I am the proud French Founder…
since your Australia rejected me indeed
Yes, so, I was telling you how difficult it has been to me to track
down those most clever Mining Criminals of the Tyrwhitt, Searls etc
class & if it had not been to most fortuitous circumstances like for
example being brought in my hand the falsified Narla report
(discovered in a kalgoorlie demolished house) with the millions spent
in exploration, the disgruntled comments at the end of the Narla/Boral
Directors showing that after all that effort they had to sell the 40
claims for a mere 15 000 $ to the so generous Mining Criminals
accepting such risky venture ! Those good Mining Criminals so good to
give an opportunity to Narla to cut their losses …a bit of course, but
better than nothing, Hey ?
· The Hon TD Evans as former Attorney General had contact with the CIB
and this thanks to him than I learned that only a few 5 millions had
been paid underhand to the Boral Directors after scuttling their Narla
Company…directly paid in New Zealand for understandable discretion
· If was Mineralogist Peter Bridge who introduced me to Dr John Borner
of Kalgoorlie Petrologist, the one who indeed assayed my samples for
gold brought to him by the Mining Heroes Tyrwhitt & compere Thomson.
John told me tongue in cheek Quote : I saw the Telfer mine samples
well before Tyrwhiit & Thomson got there & I am pleased to know how it
went. Unquote
· Finally it was 30 years after the fact that the President of the
Prospector Union Mr Bob Sheppard really killed me with putting the
last piece in that puzzle ; in fact that 3 major companies which I
interested in trust to the Telfer Mine where in a Kalgoorlie Joint
Venture : Anglo American, WMC ( BHP now) & Newmont ( twice) That was
excellent news since at long last my quest to find out how the Mining
Criminals has so smartly steered their affairs. In fact when they made
their discoveries in Kalgoorlie, a 1000 miles away from the Great
Sandy Desert thanks to Dr Borner they had at their disposal a mere
1.550 tons of samples of sulphide rich Gossans & 11 000 assays from
Anglo Senior Geologist Ray Forma. The appraisal of my samples was part
of that Trust agreement with the Mining Criminals but it is quite
understandable that such well paid geologists such as Newmont CEO
Tyrwhitt, Newmont President Searls, Senior geologist Thomson, Barr,
Koehn, & later Atkinson would have considered that pushing to the
gutter that gallant French prospector Turcaud would be of no
consequence since he having no support in a foreign country, no
friends … further the chap was completely broke having put all his
money and guts in the venture – indeed walking up to 50 miles a day
from sunrise to sunset without complaint – Turcaud could remain poor,
he was used to it, such admirable opportunity for Glory, Recognition
could not be let escaped by Searls, Tyrwhit & Co … The Master minds
behind the Trillions dollars Swindle of Narla & Boral Shareholders !
… and indeed everything was taken away from Turcaud, even the credit,
the recognition & normal gratitude for his most valuable & remarkable
discoveries.
But then the Hon T.D Evans came on the scene & happily Court senior-
that Puke with his statue now in downtown Perth- as well as Mansaros,
Minister of Mine & Justice, took care of both The Hon Evans by
blocking the required Royal Inquiry on the one hand & as well blocking
the demand of Turcaud’s Lawyers Mr Mazza & Mr Picton Warlow Q.C for
Federal & State legal Aids. Mr Picton Warlow confided to me that never
before such rejections was received on the two counts. The Hon T.D
Evans had later to leave politics & experienced disillusion with life
which in short time pushed him to the grave.
…as for Father Bert Rutherford, the Narla corporate prospector &
former Catholic priest, main witness in the demanded Royal Inquiry, he
did not last very long as well with threatening phone call &
impossibility to find again a job …he died soon of alleged “natural”
cause.
… and you know of course what happened to Turcaud, after battling for
six long years a complete corrupt system & hoping for Justice till the
end, he finally left that Australia he loved so much, in complete
despair indeed !
Still I have to render homage to the few people who did not stand for
those Tyrwhitt, Searls & Co ‘s prospectors’ prospector practices, and
who clearly saw through the abominable murdering scheme. I wish to
remember here the late director of the Kalgoorlie School of Mines,
which I attended, Mr Keith Quartermaine, as well as George Compton,
Consultant geologist of Kalgoorlie, son of the Founder of the
Kalgoorlie School of Mines
In view of all the information I have provided to you, Mr Premier, it
is important that the line of conduct which has been the one of your
predecessors & which is yours no doubt, should be kept with due
respect to the West Australian Parliament Traditions of Corruption.
Since 39 years later & nearly a generation remote, you are only able
to reward & this without delay Dr David Stuart Tyrwhitt with the
highest Australian honour in return fo his most meritorious conduct,
according to your standards, especially in relation to services
rendered to the Mining Criminals ! Indeed Dr Tyrwhit is their needed
& standing excuse & without him they have no leg to stand on …neither
do you indeed ! Well it’s really ludicrous that no Premier of West
Australia has been able to know & state the name of the official
Mining Pioneer Tyrwhitt who officially again unearthed Trillions in
richness for Australia at large, seen in term of families’ well being,
education, housing, voyages to far away places, even buying private
planes for some of the contract miners etc Isn’t that shameful on
your part that recognition should not paid after so many years to such
fiction genius who able to write in Newmont / Newcrest official record
of the discovery :
Quote I spotted the site from the air and landed nearby in the
Desert to take samples. Signed Tyrwhitt Enquote
Isn’t that the demonstration of the talent of a talented inventive
writer indeed !!! Agree ? …except for a detail that the Mining
Criminals have not even the month, the week, the day nor the hour to
produce for that extraordinary feat of landing a Beech90 twin turbo in
a trackless desert strewn with spinifex humps, drifting dunes, nasty
unstable ground etc & taking off again after gathering samples over
the now Telfer Mine rugged terrain…spotting the site alone in the
immensity of the Great Sandy Desert is a really a feat on its own. I
can assure you of this since I prospected on foot over 3 sheets or
approx 12000 square miles of it. The desperate Mining Criminals are
only able to produce only the year for that most stupendous Tyrwhitt
discoveries.. a tragedy in my opinion needing some other opportune
inventive legerdemain! I can assure you on the other hand that Barr
of WMC truly found Nifty, indeed I took him there & hence I can vouch
for that… so Atkinson of CRA for Kintyre, although I only pinpointed
the coordinates on the map.
So many years of suffering wilfully & most maliciously endured from
both the Mining Criminals and your own West Australia Parliament
leading members, the innuendos & insults heaped upon me from all
directions of whose the most insulting was the silence from your
administrations & some members in return for pleas of Justice. This
insulting silence has been the tool of contempt of the Mining
Criminals of which they quite liberally used, 3 times they went back
on their agreement the first being the 1% free carried interest & the
last being the one reached at the highest level in New York with
Newmont Chairman Malozemoff…it did not last a week. When seeking to
enforce it 5 years later in NY, they just bought the US attorney at
law I had hired on a 40/60 contingency fee & who joined their firm
later, as I learnt. He agreed at your meeting in NY that Newmont
would be brought to court, but once I was back home the discourse
immediately changed after early meeting with the Mining Criminals & I
was put in front of the obligation by the US Attorney at Law of having
two important WA personalities flown to NY from Perth to stand as
witness in US court at my expenses of course… . Finally I signed a
release under duress & I would have signed for one dollar only, since
hooking in so doing the Mining Criminals to my name for eternity… what
I cleared in fact, did not even cover my mere prospecting costs.
Considering all the above, and at this point in time, less than a year
from me clearing out of Mining & Political Criminals’ inflicted mental
torture, it would be foolish for you not to stand the distance just a
bit more. Then the very little gratitude & recognition of which your
West Australia Parliament is able towards deserving individual, will
be then available for a most deserving usage: Honouring without fear
of interference from me that most remarkable Dr Tyrwhitt, all the
more since you have no choice since the like of it would be rejected
off hand by me, as insult added to injury…In clear you are condemned
to state the real name of the Great Sandy Desert Discoverer of Telfer
Mine & others shows, to stand for your generation long West Australia
Parliament & WA Administrations ‘ collusion with Mining Criminals in
well documented now Collective Crimes You are condemned as well to
speak up on that issue, since a copy of that letter is going to be
sent to many people & particularly to HRM The Queen, which directly is
guarantee for the highest Standards to which you are bound. Hence must
be made aware of your West Australia Parliament’s forfeiture, deny of
Justice, lack of morality & standing. Such Royal values you and your
Premier predecessors have flouted, certain of you immunity, held in
contempt, tramped underfoot convinced of your impunity & above the
Laws of Natural Justice. A generation later soon, you all appear to
have had the upper hand & the courage of the Hon T.D Evans as well as
of Father Rutherford & the bravery of Australia Greatest Mining
Pioneer of All Times Jean-Paul Turcaud, have all been in vain.
Congratulations !
Yours faithfully
20 Avenue des Guiardes
17000 La Rochelle France
Your references
The West Australian Parliament Hansard with 7 different interventions
by the Hon T.D Evans, Member for Kalgoorlie, late Attorney General,
demanding a Royal Inquiry into the Newmont Mining Corporation Criminal
Swindle of Narla / Boral shareholders of their right ownership of now
known Telfer Mine, in their successful & villainous attempt at
shunting Australia Mining Pioneer Jean-Paul Turcaud.
As well intervention of the Hon Julian, former Senior Minister &
Member for Boulder on the same issue.
My different letters to former Premiers Court & Lawrence, as well as
letter from Dr Findlay to Premier Gallop, with the shameful rebuffing
replies.
Other references
The Golden Rule
(or the True History of Telfer Mine discovery)
by the President of Australian Prospectors & Leaseholders Union, Mr
Bob Sheppard
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
The Official History of Telfer Mine debugged
By one of Australia leading Geologist, Dr Don Findlay. PhD geology
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
ABC report.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htmfuyuyuyuyu
�R.L.Measures
<73e51903-5068-4d50...@15g2000prz.googlegroups.com>,
bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> "Tex" <tropi...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > "Al Smith" <inva...@address.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > Compared to the Israelis, the Palestinians are saints.
> >
> > Nope. The 'Palestinians' are still Nazis. No wonder they were good friend=
> s
> > of Hitler.
> >
> > >All that the Palestinians did, they were provoked into doing by the
> > >unceasing crimes Israel committed against them for decades.
> >
> > Which "crimes" were they then?
> >
> > >They were fighting for their land and their human rights.
> >
> > What "land" would that be? The mythical country of "Palestine"?
> >
> > > They had every right to kill those who came to take both away from them=
> .
> > > Let me be clear ... the Israelis are *completely* in the *wrong* on the
> > > Palestinian issue. There is no shadow of a question about it.
> >
> > Too bad you're wrong.
>
> But you said, and I quote: =93Hamas are anti-nazis=94.
>
> It's a bit late in the day to change your mind about the Israeli's
> being Nazis.
� It's a bit late in the century to do that.
cornholio
> On 12/14/2009 6:28 AM, Aaronovich wrote:
>
>
>
> >news:1i4ci559t4l4tnhj7...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:42:11 -0400, Al Smith <inva...@address.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On 12/13/2009 2:14 PM, E. Barry Bruyea wrote:
I think your vigorous bunghole lifting sessions for allah and
bumhammad have warped your brain.
Moslem cartoon character mohammed was a paedophile 6th century warlord and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
Moslem cartoon character mohammed was a paedophile 6th century warlord and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems
and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement
brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under
subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA.,
Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the
slayer of fecal stained moslems Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
niy...@hotmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
Jordan Data Communication Ltd.
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Skitskin moslem CA Fabian, 5 Pfeiffer Close, Mt Barker, 5251, South
Australia, +61 8 8391 1292
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
Hamzeh Abu-Abed
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
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‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)› Did you know? - bestiality is entrenched in the mozlim
cult - even the false profit mohammed had his harem of favourite goats
and camels. ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)› __
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الش
mehya...@hotmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
Jordan Data Communication Ltd.
Emily Fabian (aka Em, Millie, Jinan) can count herself lucky that her
family aren't mohammadans, or her life would be at risk of so called
honor killings because she divorced Leonardo Fabian - see pictures of
the newly divorced new apostate Emily Fabian, UNVEILED - ______ follow
the below link ......
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
cornholio
>
> People who don't wear uniforms and hide behind women and children when
> retaliated against are terrorist.
I remember reading that when muslimes were firing rockets (upgraded
katayushas)
from Lebanon into Israel they were firing from civilian neighborhoods.
bringyagrogalong
> Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
> > Mosher wrote:
> > > bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Early this year Israel attacked the Gaza Strip which left more than
> > >> 1400 Palestinians dead (including 300 children) and over 4000 wounded
> > >> with much of Gaza’s infrastructure - houses, hospitals, schools,
> > >> power, and wells, reduced to rubble. Nine Israeli soldiers were killed
> > >> inside the Gaza Strip, four by friendly fire. When hostilities had
> > >> ceased Israel tightened the long-time blokade into the Strip, making
> > >> rebuilding almost impossible.
>
> > >> In September, the Goldstone Report, the result of a UN fact-finding
> > >> mission into the war, concluded that Israel, despite its claims of
> > >> purely military and political objectives, had launched “a deliberate
> > >> disproportionate attack designed to punish, humilitate and terrorise
> > >> the civilian population” and crush it economically.
>
> > >> Now, before the Israeli appologists come running out with their
> > >> predictable and tiresome mantra of “anti-Semite” against any criticism
> > >> leveled at Israel, I ask only this of you... Substitute the word
> > >> read the post again and tell me who the real terrorists are. The
>
> > >> It’s amazing how crystal clear the real situation becomes when
> > >> removing decades of Israeli propoganda, isn’t it?
>
> > > The UN's Facts on Israel are as believable as their facts on Climate
> > > Change.
>
> > > The UN is a corrupt utterly derelict organization and should be
> > > dissolved.
>
> > The UN is wrong on climate change, and right on Israel.
>
> > -Al-
>
> In answer to the first question:
>
> People who don't wear uniforms and hide behind women and children when
> retaliated against are terrorist.
I would have thought that it's the people who wear uniforms and use
the Middle East's most lethal and most sophisticated arsenal backed up
with atomic weapons against stone-throwing civilians and children
whose land they illegally occupy to be the terrorists.
�R.L.Measures
<1e352e5b-bdec-4a75...@n31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
cornholio <andx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 13, 2:15=A0am, Mosher <mosherkus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 13, 8:11=A0pm, Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 12/13/2009 6:09 AM, Mosher wrote:
> >
> > > > On Dec 13, 8:04 pm, bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> > > >> Early this year Israel attacked the Gaza Strip which left more than
> > > >> 1400 Palestinians dead (including 300 children) and over 4000 wounde=
> d
> > > >> with much of Gaza=92s infrastructure - houses, hospitals, schools,
> > > >> power, and wells, reduced to rubble. Nine Israeli soldiers were kill=
> ed
> > > >> inside the Gaza Strip, four by friendly fire. When hostilities had
> > > >> ceased Israel tightened the long-time blokade into the Strip, making
> > > >> rebuilding almost impossible.
> >
> > > >> In September, the Goldstone Report, the result of a UN fact-finding
> > > >> mission into the war, concluded that Israel, despite its claims of
> > > >> purely military and political objectives, had launched =93a delibera=
> te
> > > >> disproportionate attack designed to punish, humilitate and terrorise
> > > >> the civilian population=94 and crush it economically.
> >
> > > >> Now, before the Israeli appologists come running out with their
> > > >> predictable and tiresome mantra of =93anti-Semite=94 against any cri=
> ticism
> > > >> leveled at Israel, I ask only this of you... Substitute the word
> > > >> Israel with Green, Gaza with Blue and Palestinians with Reds, then
> > > >> read the post again and tell me who the real terrorists are. =A0The
> > > >> Blues or the Reds?
> >
> > > >> It=92s amazing how crystal clear the real situation becomes when
> > > >> removing decades of Israeli propoganda, isn=92t it?
> >
> > > > The UN's Facts on Israel are as believable as their facts on Climate
> > > > Change.
> >
> > > > The UN is a corrupt utterly derelict organization and should be
> > > > dissolved.
> >
> > > The UN is wrong on climate change, and right on Israel.
> >
> > > -Al-
> >
> > In answer to the first question:
> >
> > People who don't wear uniforms and hide behind women and children when
> > retaliated against are terrorist.
>
> I remember reading that when muslimes were firing rockets (upgraded
> katayushas)
> from Lebanon into Israel they were firing from civilian neighborhoods.
� For the Palestinians, civilian casualties are good
Al Smith
> Mosher <mosherkus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
>>> Mosher wrote:
>>>> bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>>>>> Early this year Israel attacked the Gaza Strip which left more than
>>>>> 1400 Palestinians dead (including 300 children) and over 4000 wounded
>>>>> power, and wells, reduced to rubble. Nine Israeli soldiers were killed
>>>>> inside the Gaza Strip, four by friendly fire. When hostilities had
>>>>> ceased Israel tightened the long-time blokade into the Strip, making
>>>>> rebuilding almost impossible.
>>>>> In September, the Goldstone Report, the result of a UN fact-finding
>>>>> mission into the war, concluded that Israel, despite its claims of
>>>>> disproportionate attack designed to punish, humilitate and terrorise
>>>>> Now, before the Israeli appologists come running out with their
>>>>> leveled at Israel, I ask only this of you... Substitute the word
>>>>> Israel with Green, Gaza with Blue and Palestinians with Red, then
>>>>> read the post again and tell me who the real terrorists are. The
>>>>> Greens or the Reds?
>>>>> removing decades of Israeli propoganda, isn�t it?
>>>> The UN's Facts on Israel are as believable as their facts on Climate
>>>> Change.
>>>> The UN is a corrupt utterly derelict organization and should be
>>>> dissolved.
>>> The UN is wrong on climate change, and right on Israel.
>>> -Al-
>> In answer to the first question:
>>
>> People who don't wear uniforms and hide behind women and children when
>> retaliated against are terrorist.
>
> I would have thought that it's the people who wear uniforms and use
> the Middle East's most lethal and most sophisticated arsenal backed up
> with atomic weapons against stone-throwing civilians and children
> whose land they illegally occupy to be the terrorists.
Bingo. Israel has co-opted the propaganda war for far too long. It's
time we stopped paying attention to the Zionist slanting of the
terms of the debate. If anyone is the terrorist, it is the IDF and
the laughingly termed "settlers" who are actively and knowingly
stealing the land of the Palestinians, while beating their children,
maiming them, arresting them, and in far too many cases, murdering
them. All this, done with the full knowledge and approval of the
Israeli government.
The Israelis are foul terrorists and they richly deserve to be
killed for it. Israeli citizens are complicit in the decades-long
list of crimes committed by their governments. The Palestinians have
always been vilified by the Zionist-controlled media in the West,
but they have always had justice on their side. Only in the past ten
or twenty years has this become so obvious, it is impossible for
thinking human beings to ignore.
-Al-
Tex
"Tex" <trop...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b2620f1$0$1781$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
Days later, and *still* no refutation from Serge. LOL
As usual, he has chickened out and done a bunk :)
Krudd the Dud
>> Where did I say that Sergey? I notice you couldn't provide a URL. But
>> that's no surprise, given that you've shown tonight you can't figure out
>> how Google Groups works. LOL
>
>Days later, and *still* no refutation from Serge. LOL
>
>As usual, he has chickened out and done a bunk :)
He is out pimping his children.
>
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
The dirty poof!
--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.
"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.
"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott
Krudd the Dud
<""theoldman\"@kangarooistan.com is Malcum Fabian, a lying, arselifting
piece of abo shit ."> wrote:
>Krudd the Dud wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:42:31 +1100, "Tex" <trop...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Where did I say that Sergey? I notice you couldn't provide a URL. But
>>>> that's no surprise, given that you've shown tonight you can't figure out
>>>> how Google Groups works. LOL
>>> Days later, and *still* no refutation from Serge. LOL
>>>
>>> As usual, he has chickened out and done a bunk :)
>>
>> He is out pimping his children.
>
>The dirty poof!
Just waiting for him to repost his shit about how much he "misses" Paul "The
Poof" Keating!
LOL!
bringyagrogalong
> Serge Who Can't Afford A Free Newsreader (aka. "bringyagrogalong")<CozSergeIsPoorHereAreSomeDots...@FakeNYEParty.net.au> wrote in message
> > "Al Smith" <inva...@address.com> wrote in message
> > >
> > > Compared to the Israelis, the Palestinians are saints.
> > >
> > > Palestinian issue. There is no shadow of a question about it.
> >
> > Too bad you're wrong.
>
> But you said, and I quote: “Hamas are anti-nazis”.
>
> It's a bit late in the day to change your mind about the Israeli's
> being Nazis.
>
> -----
>
> Where did I say that Sergey?
Right here...
"just anti-nazis, which is what hamas are"
Your words, Tex. Not mine!
> I notice you couldn't provide a URL.
Here you go...
> But that's no surprise, given that you've shown tonight you
> can't figure out how Google Groups works. LOL
Would that be one of those expensive "free newsreaders"?
ROFL Check out what that congenital idiot said...
"Sergey, who it seems is too poor to afford a free newsreader"
What a card-carrying drongo. ROFLMAO
chingang
>Days later, and *still* no refutation from Serge. LOL
>
>As usual, he has chickened out and done a bunk :)
>
See how childish you are? You send a post that states you are waiting
for a good argument again. All I can say is being in a newsgroup is
just "slacking off" to kill some hours but YOU! Oh you wait for
vindication through argumentation which only can be summed up with my
statement "Get A Life"
chingang
Are you in anxiety waiting too? Geez, kind of moronic, huh?
chingang
Bet you've taken to drooling too? I'll bet its harder than waiting for
Santa. Like your mom says, "Go to bed and he'll come"
I wouldn't hold my breath. He might have a life. Some folks do you
know?
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:48:00 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF "
> <""theoldman\"@kangarooistan.com is Malcum Fabian, a lying, arselifting
> piece of abo shit ."> wrote:
>
>> Krudd the Dud wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:42:31 +1100, "Tex" <trop...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Where did I say that Sergey? I notice you couldn't provide a URL. But
>>>>> that's no surprise, given that you've shown tonight you can't figure out
>>>>> how Google Groups works. LOL
>>>> Days later, and *still* no refutation from Serge. LOL
>>>>
>>>> As usual, he has chickened out and done a bunk :)
>>> He is out pimping his children.
>> The dirty poof!
>
> Just waiting for him to repost his shit about how much he "misses" Paul "The
> Poof" Keating!
>
> LOL!
He misses being on his knees before Cheating, eh?
kangarooistan
and there were hundreds of other wars in the colonial ERA
Even IF you claim re losses in India were true
100,000 is tiny numbers compared to the numbers killed by christians
and jews
most wars in history were started by christians or jews
thousands upon thousands of wars of conquest
have you EVER compared the NUMBER of wars the USA and UK have been
involved in , the deaths are over 100 times greater as well as the
numbers of wars in muslim countries
It makes Muslim Counties look like a sunday school picnic when you
google USA war or UK war and the computer crashes , 100 times MORE
people have been killed by CHRISTIANs and JEWS compared to the
numbers
killed by Muslims
USA killed nearly as many peoples as the UK did
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=usa+wars&fulltext=Search
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=british+wars&fulltext=Search
37 million in WW1 alone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ww1_casualties
up to double that in WW2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ww2_casualties
World War II casualty statistics vary greatly. Estimates of total dead
range from 50 million to over 70 million.[36] The sources cited on
this page document an estimated death toll in World War II of 62 to 78
million, making it the deadliest war ever. When scholarly sources
differ on the number of deaths in a country, a range of war losses is
given, in order to inform readers that the death toll is uncertain.
Civilians killed totaled from 40 to 52 million, including 13 to 20
million from war-related disease and famine.
Total military dead: from 22 to 25 million, including deaths in
captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war.
100 times MORE people killed by christians compared to those killed
by Muslims ,
anybody who cares about TRUTH knows who the REAL psychopaths are ,
nobody comes close to christians or jews , they even kill each other
at rates 100 times HIGHER than any other group in HISTORY
Often totally wiping out entire nations like they did in Tasmania and
many native nations completely wiped from the face of the planet
No wonder they are so despised , no wonder Islam grows so fast as more
and more people DISCOVER who the REAL terrorists are
kanga
=====
David Johnston
<sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>> In answer to the first question:
>>
>> People who don't wear uniforms and hide behind women and children when
>> retaliated against are terrorist.
>
>I would have thought that it's the people who wear uniforms and use
>the Middle East's most lethal and most sophisticated arsenal backed up
>with atomic weapons against stone-throwing civilians and children
>whose land they illegally occupy to be the terrorists.
You would have been wrong. Terrorists don't wear uniforms.
Gord Proudfoot
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:39:51 -0800 (PST), bringyagrogalong
>
> <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> >> In answer to the first question:
>
> >> People who don't wear uniforms and hide behind women and children when
> >> retaliated against are terrorist.
>
> >I would have thought that it's the people who wear uniforms and use
> >the Middle East's most lethal and most sophisticated arsenal backed up
> >with atomic weapons against stone-throwing civilians and children
> >whose land they illegally occupy to be the terrorists.
I always liked the waste of money that Bush put into that "great
nuclear umbrella" because there were nukes out there.
As if 95% of the shipping containers entering the ports of North
America were inspected! Only 5% are!
Who needs some blow hard tinpot like the dude from Iran or Kim from N.
Korea professing to being an expert in rocketry, when all it takes is
a shipping container to deliver the trouble!
>
> You would have been wrong. Terrorists don't wear uniforms.
Sure they do! They wear bandanas. They wear turbans! Didn't the
IRA terrorists look different from the British?
That's why we always get them!
Or, they don't. Russia was hit with another Chechnyan bomb on a
railway just a week ago.
The Chechnyan Muslims look like Gordie Howe, Pete Rose, or even
George W. Bush.
You're right.
The guys who planned on blowing the shit out of Toronto and were
busted, probably hated wearing golf shirts and hats.
They wanted to dress up like Osama when they planned on doing it!
It's all about being inconspicuous.
:)
Hunter
> Christians and jews massacred over 100 million in just WW1 and WW2
So did Muslims, Hindus and pretty much members of most religions. You do
get the concept of "world" don't you?
Idiot.....
kangarooistan
Except white christians and jews killed 100 times MORE than any other
group
Its the simple FACT hunter
Maths not opinion
How many times have Afghanistan armies invaded Australia or USA or UK
How many times has Iraqi armies invaded Australia UK or USA
ANYBODY who cares to COUNT the dead can do so mate
thats WHY ISLAM grows so fast
Naturally its only a matter of TIME until truth and justice MEET
Then justice can prevail and the REAL terrorists identified
Truths rely on FACT not opinion
It matters not what you or I think
Thats WHY kanga simply sticks with the FACTS
Thats WHY kanga is ALWAYS right mate
FACTS are not racist
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
Arselifters are the world's biggest mass murderers. They murdered untold
millions of hindus in India alone.
Hunter
> On Dec 19, 2:11 am, Hunter <hunte...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> kangarooistan wrote:
>>> Christians and jews massacred over 100 million in just WW1 and WW2
>> So did Muslims, Hindus and pretty much members of most religions. You do
>> get the concept of "world" don't you?
>>
>> Idiot.....
>
> Except white christians and jews killed 100 times MORE than any other
> group
And Muslims killed 100 times MORE Muslims than any other group. Sorry,
you just look at things way too shallowly.
Hunter
> Hunter wrote:
>> kangarooistan wrote:
>>> Christians and jews massacred over 100 million in just WW1 and WW2
>>
>> So did Muslims, Hindus and pretty much members of most religions. You
>> do get the concept of "world" don't you?
>>
>> Idiot.....
>
> Arselifters are the world's biggest mass murderers. They murdered untold
> millions of hindus in India alone.
Really? Where's the proof of that. In India the people doing the most
killing and torture are Hindus.
kangarooistan
> kangarooistan wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 2:11 am, Hunter <hunte...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> >> kangarooistan wrote:
> >>> Christians and jews massacred over 100 million in just WW1 and WW2
> >> So did Muslims, Hindus and pretty much members of most religions. You do
> >> get the concept of "world" don't you?
>
> >> Idiot.....
>
> > Except white christians and jews killed 100 times MORE than any other
> > group
>
> And Muslims killed 100 times MORE Muslims than any other group. Sorry,
> you just look at things way too shallowly.
let me GUESS mate
you get your FACTS from western media mate
WHILE we are at WAR
You KNOW the first rule of WAR
the firsts casualty is ALWAYS the truth
Western media ALWAYS report the western TAXPAYER funded CIA and MOSSAD
death squads " kills " as Muslim on Muslim violence
Any military person can tell propaganda a MILE off hunter
Its pathetically childish to pretend Muslims are blowing EACH OTHER UP
ina war
Of course western media TRY and report the WAR crimes committed by
WESTERN TAXPAYER funded DEATH SQUADS as muslims killing each other
Western Media NEVER tells the TRUTH in any war
Go back and find me one case of western media telling the TRUTH in any
war
They are ONLY permitted to tell the official LIES
unless they break the LAW
Thank GOD for BRAVE soldiers who turn whistle blower and release the
truth like in Abu Graib
Once theTRUTH is printed you STILL reject ithunter
You WANT to believe muslims are so silly they blow each other up
go n believing it mate
The TRUTH ALWAYS comes out in the end
we ALL know truth and justice ALWAYS win in the end
NOTHING can save Israel or its supporters from facing justice
It only remains how MUCH they want their children and grandchildren to
suffer paying for todays war criminals and western media LIES
Islam continues to grow FASTER that at any time in history and JUSTICE
will not be denied to the REAL terrorists in FULL
once the jews have bled western taxpayers to death , they will AGAIN
turn on the jews
kanga
=====
Hunter
> On Dec 20, 12:28 pm, Hunter <hunte...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> kangarooistan wrote:
>>> On Dec 19, 2:11 am, Hunter <hunte...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>> kangarooistan wrote:
>>>>> Christians and jews massacred over 100 million in just WW1 and WW2
>>>> So did Muslims, Hindus and pretty much members of most religions. You do
>>>> get the concept of "world" don't you?
>>>> Idiot.....
>>> Except white christians and jews killed 100 times MORE than any other
>>> group
> .
>> And Muslims killed 100 times MORE Muslims than any other group. Sorry,
>> you just look at things way too shallowly.
>
> let me GUESS mate
>
> you get your FACTS from western media mate
No, let me guess, you get your facts straight from your al queda
handbook. Says it all really.
Peter Webb
"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:hgk5pr$jsr$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
Bullshit.
Mumbai massacre.
Next!
Hunter
Millions died in the Mumbai massacre? I don't think so... Try
170, or lets round it to 200 just for the hell of it's insignificance in
the scheme of things in India. Now lets look at the Hindus. 2000 Muslims
tortured, raped and killed in one event alone in Gujarat in 2002,
thousands upon thousands more in smaller events throughout the country.
Estimates of 3000 to 5000 Sikh's massacred during the 1984 anti-Sikh
riots. And just last year, very small-scale compared to what they've
done to other religions but still a massacre in death-toll and a hell of
a lot worse in damage done than happened in Mumbai, the Christian
massacre in Orisa. 61 killed, 18,000 injured, 4500 homes burnt to the
ground and 181 churches burnt to the ground, all because a Hindu who had
previously formed a mob that killed 3 christians, burned 13 of their
homes and chased thousands more out of the area ended up with a bullet
in his head as he deserved. And of course no Australian will ever forget
what they did to Mr Staines and his children.
Sorry, don't think you're going to manage beating the Hindus for
violence in India. Try Pakistan and you'd be right, the Muslim
fundamentalists there are killing left right and centre, although I
don't know if they've racked up numbers as highly as the Hindu
fundamentalists in India.
Pete
>
> No, let me guess, you get your facts straight from your al queda
> handbook. Says it all really.
>
>
It's insane that people do what you and 'roo are doing these days.
It's not as if anyone is cornered in and there is a 'great media conspiracy'
of any kind.
When Prof. Herbert Marshall McLuhan envisioned the information age and the
global village, he anticipated a wide understanding and availability of
knowledge. That was before the Internet, and he certainly didn't anticipate
the massive amounts of bullshit out there, including the notions of Bloggers
who never leave their keyboards and see the real world, but promote ideology
and fail to stick to journalistic standards and fact checking.
Apparently now, any jackass with a website can say what ever fits.
Bloggers of dubious credibility are often considered equals to traditional
sources that actually have feet on the street, and do fact check as well as
adhering to journalistic standards.
It's made me a better person. I never take anything for face value if it
matters. With cut backs, even the traditional media slips up because of
laziness.
Even the Beeb does it. Why promote a bonafied scientific theory like global
warming from a credible climatologist, and then have the other half of the
write up consisting of a response from Marc Morano? A useless tool who knows
fuck all?
Hunter
> Hunter wrote
>> No, let me guess, you get your facts straight from your al queda
>> handbook. Says it all really.
>
> It's insane that people do what you and 'roo are doing these days.
What you mean one being a lunatic religious zealot, and the other
getting a laugh out of poking the lunatic religious zealot??? Where does
any of that have anything to do with your spiel on the veracity of data
on the internet?
Or are you speaking of the "you get your facts straight from..."
statements? If so I think you kind of missed the meaning....
Peter Webb
> Peter Webb wrote:
>> "Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:hgk5pr$jsr$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>>>> Arselifters are the world's biggest mass murderers. They murdered
>>>> untold millions of hindus in India alone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? Where's the proof of that. In India the people doing the most
>>> killing and torture are Hindus.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>>
>> Mumbai massacre.
>>
>> Next!
>
>
> Millions died in the Mumbai massacre?
You didn't say anything about millions, I was responding to you.
> I don't think so... Try
> 170, or lets round it to 200 just for the hell of it's insignificance in
> the scheme of things in India. Now lets look at the Hindus. 2000 Muslims
> tortured, raped and killed in one event alone in Gujarat in 2002,
The opening words of the Wikipedia article:
The 2002 Gujarat violence describes the Godhra train burning and resulting
communal riots between Hindus and Muslims. On 27 February 2002 at Godhra
City in the state of Gujarat, the Sabarmati Express train was forcibly
stopped and attacked by about 500+ strong Muslim mob.[1] As a result, 59
Hindu passengers — mostly women, children and seniors returning from the
holy city of Ayodhya — were burned alive. The resulting riots and massacres
killed 790 Muslims and an additional 254 Hindus.
Look who started it, and how, 500 Muslims burning Hindu women and children
alive. Nice illustration of what a peaceful religion Islam is.
> thousands upon thousands more in smaller events throughout the country.
> Estimates of 3000 to 5000 Sikh's massacred during the 1984 anti-Sikh
> riots. And just last year, very small-scale compared to what they've done
> to other religions but still a massacre in death-toll and a hell of a lot
> worse in damage done than happened in Mumbai, the Christian massacre in
> Orisa. 61 killed, 18,000 injured, 4500 homes burnt to the ground and 181
> churches burnt to the ground, all because a Hindu who had previously
> formed a mob that killed 3 christians, burned 13 of their homes and chased
> thousands more out of the area ended up with a bullet in his head as he
> deserved. And of course no Australian will ever forget what they did to Mr
> Staines and his children.
Gee, another 59.
Interesting that your claim is of people "killed, tortured and raped", yet
so far not a single example of the latter two categories.
>
> Sorry, don't think you're going to manage beating the Hindus for violence
> in India.
The simple fact is that most Indians are Hindu, so most of everything is
done by Hindus.
You have also failed to mention the 500,000 Hindus killed by Muslims during
Partition.
> Try Pakistan and you'd be right, the Muslim fundamentalists there are
> killing left right and centre, although I don't know if they've racked up
> numbers as highly as the Hindu fundamentalists in India.
In pretty much the whole world the majority of terrorism is perpetrated by
Muslims. That's obviously not the same thing as deaths that occur during
riots.
Hunter
>
> "Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:hgkeb4$gd8$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Peter Webb wrote:
>>> "Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>> news:hgk5pr$jsr$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>>>>> Arselifters are the world's biggest mass murderers. They murdered
>>>>> untold millions of hindus in India alone.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Where's the proof of that. In India the people doing the
>>>> most killing and torture are Hindus.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>> Mumbai massacre.
>>>
>>> Next!
>>
>> Millions died in the Mumbai massacre?
>
> You didn't say anything about millions, I was responding to you.
Fair enough, my response was in response to a statement about millions
being killed, I assumed you were talking in that context.
>> I don't think so... Try
>> 170, or lets round it to 200 just for the hell of it's insignificance
>> in the scheme of things in India. Now lets look at the Hindus. 2000
>> Muslims tortured, raped and killed in one event alone in Gujarat in 2002,
>
> The opening words of the Wikipedia article:
>
>
> The 2002 Gujarat violence describes the Godhra train burning and
> resulting communal riots between Hindus and Muslims. On 27 February 2002
> at Godhra City in the state of Gujarat, the Sabarmati Express train was
> forcibly stopped and attacked by about 500+ strong Muslim mob.[1] As a
> result, 59 Hindu passengers — mostly women, children and seniors
> returning from the holy city of Ayodhya — were burned alive. The
> resulting riots and massacres killed 790 Muslims and an additional 254
> Hindus.
>
> Look who started it, and how, 500 Muslims burning Hindu women and
> children alive. Nice illustration of what a peaceful religion Islam is.
Try reading somewhere a bit more current and with a bit more fact than
Wiki. It was found that the fire was started inside the train itself
with the Hindu extremists, and not by the mob outside the train
(forensics can be a real bitch when a pack of extremists attempt to set
themselves up as martyrs and it all goes wrong).
**- The report says that there is a strong nexus between the Modi
ministry and the RSS and VHP, and the backing that they gave each other.
There is evidence which indicates that the Godhra incident was not
pre-planned, contrary to allegations by the government. The report has
also stated that the fire started inside the Sabarmati Express coach. It
is said that a well thought-out scheme to extract maximum political
capital out of the Godhra incident was launched on February 27 and
accordingly the bodies of the slain Kar Sewaks (volunteers) were brought
to Ahmedabad. VHP and Bajrang Dal activists were trained and given
tridents and swords at intensive training camps. Only the more seasoned
members were told that they would have to participate in fights or riots
whenever necessary. This also explains that how huge mobs quickly
surfaced all over the state during the carnage. --*
And the reason the train was stopped by the mob in the first place is
that the Hindu extremists on the train (and that's exactly what the
train was full of, it was carrying a convention of the fuckers
effectively, the VHP who have also been responsible for killing
Christians refusing to convert to Hinduism and destroying churches and
mosques) had attacked an old bloke selling tea at the stop they had just
left, and when his daughter came forward to help him they pulled her
onto the train, effectively kidnapping her. I know if I had a daughter
kidnapped by extremists I'd be dragging all my mates out to stop the
fucking train too.
>> thousands upon thousands more in smaller events throughout the
>> country. Estimates of 3000 to 5000 Sikh's massacred during the 1984
>> anti-Sikh riots. And just last year, very small-scale compared to what
>> they've done to other religions but still a massacre in death-toll and
>> a hell of a lot worse in damage done than happened in Mumbai, the
>> Christian massacre in Orisa. 61 killed, 18,000 injured, 4500 homes
>> burnt to the ground and 181 churches burnt to the ground, all because
>> a Hindu who had previously formed a mob that killed 3 christians,
>> burned 13 of their homes and chased thousands more out of the area
>> ended up with a bullet in his head as he deserved. And of course no
>> Australian will ever forget what they did to Mr Staines and his children.
>
> Gee, another 59.
Where do you get 59 from? And if you meant the 61 Christians killed why
did you neglect the 3000 to 5000 Sikhs???
> Interesting that your claim is of people "killed, tortured and raped",
> yet so far not a single example of the latter two categories.
Of the Gujarat massacre:
Evidence of the systematic sexual assault on Muslim girls and women is
well documented and overwhelming. Girls' and women's bodies were
subjected to ""almost inexhaustible violence, with infinitely plural and
innovative forms of torture … their sexual and reproductive organs were
attacked with special savagery"". A doctor who examined victims in a
local hospital reported injuries inflicted with a brutality he had not
seen before. Women working in a relief camp in Ahmedabad reported to the
International Initiative for Justice in Gujarat: ""There were many women
bleeding, injured, naked. Many women had bite marks on their breasts.
Three women were raped with wooden rods inserted in their vaginas. They
were bleeding. We cleaned these women's wounds after removing the
objects inserted into their bodies"". Reports on the violence in Gujarat
concur on the pattern of violence inflicted on women. It was not only
deliberate but designed to inflict maximum suffering. It was long-drawn,
intended to kill not outright but, almost identically everywhere,
involving a prolonged gradually increasing pain and humiliation.
Several hundred Muslim girls and women were reportedly stripped and
dragged naked before their own families and thousands of violent Hindu
attackers who taunted and insulted them with obscene words and
threatened them with rape and murder. They were then raped, often
gang-raped, beaten with sticks or trishuls and swords, had breasts cut
off and wombs slashed open by swords and rods violently pushed into
their vaginas before a large number of them were cut into pieces or
burned to death. The victims included young girls and old women,
pregnant women and babies. According to local investigators, there were
between 250 and 330 girls and women victims among the dead, the majority
of whom had been raped or gang-raped before their deaths.
While some Muslim survivors reported that rapists had shouted that they
intended to impregnate them with ""little Hindus"", the target of
particular rage were pregnant women. Several eye-witnesses testified
before human rights groups that a young woman, Kausar Bano of Naroda
Patiya, Ahmedabad, who was nine months pregnant, was gang-raped and had
her womb cut open with a sword; her foetus was ripped out, hacked to
pieces and flung on the fire. The mother's body was thrown on the fire
as well. Police in Vadodara were reported by several witnesses to have
hit the bodies of pregnant women with rifles shouting ""kill them before
they are born"".
http://discardedlies.com/entry/?2401
And a lot more detail to be found here:
http://cac.ektaonline.org/resources/reports/womensreport.htm
“The mob started chasing us with burning tyres after we were forced to
leave Gangotri society. It was then that they raped many girls. We saw
about 8-10 rapes. We saw them strip 16-year-old Mehrunissa. They were
stripping themselves and beckoning to the girls. Then they raped them
right there on the road. We saw a girl’s vagina being slit open. Then
they were burnt. Now there is no evidence.”
Source: Kulsum Bibi, Shah e Alam Camp, March 27, 2002
“I saw Farzana being raped by Guddu Chara. Farzana was about 13 years
old. She was a resident of Hussain Nagar. They put a saria (rod) in
Farzana’s stomach. She was later burnt. 12 year old Noorjahan was also
raped. The rapists were Guddu, Suresh and Naresh Chara and Haria. I also
saw Bhawani Singh, who works in the State Transport Department kill 5
men and a boy.”
Source: Azharuddin, 13 years. He witnessed the rapes while hiding on the
terrace of Gangotri Society. The Chara basti is located just behind
Jawan Nagar.
The mob, which came from Chara Nagar and Kuber Nagar, started burning
people at around 6 in the evening. The mob stripped all the girls of the
locality, including my 22-year-old daughter, and raped them. My daughter
was engaged to be married. 7 members of my family were burnt including
my wife (aged 40), my sons (aged 18, 14 and 7) and my daughters (aged 2,
4 and 22). My eldest daughter, who later died in the civil hospital,
told me that those who raped her were wearing shorts. They hit her on
the head and then burnt her. She died of 80% burn injuries.
>> Sorry, don't think you're going to manage beating the Hindus for
>> violence in India.
>
> The simple fact is that most Indians are Hindu, so most of everything is
> done by Hindus.
There ya go. The same is true of Muslims in Muslim countries. Pretty
much means we can ignore all the rubbish flooding these newsgroups about
Muslims then if that makes it excusable huh?
> You have also failed to mention the 500,000 Hindus killed by Muslims
> during Partition.
The estimates are actually of 200,000 to 2,000,000 "Indians" killed from
both sides. Afraid you don't get to say they were all Hindu. No-one
knows how many from each of the religions (the Sikh's were also
involved) but I'd suggest it was probably plenty of each religion
depending on whether or not you were lucky enough to end up on the right
side of the "partition".
>> Try Pakistan and you'd be right, the Muslim fundamentalists there are
>> killing left right and centre, although I don't know if they've racked
>> up numbers as highly as the Hindu fundamentalists in India.
>
> In pretty much the whole world the majority of terrorism is perpetrated
> by Muslims. That's obviously not the same thing as deaths that occur
> during riots.
I'd agree in reference to international terrorism, the Christians used
to be at the top of the list when the only real international terrorism
was at the hands of Christian Irish terrorists, and now the only real
international terrorism is at the hands of Muslim terrorists, and it has
been a shitload more devastating than the Christians of Northern Ireland
ever managed and more directed at civilian targets making the previous
Christian terrorism look like nothing in comparison. And I fully support
any measures taken to kill the cunts who do this stuff off, unlike some
of the greenleft people dwelling in these newsgroups.
But the vast majority of Christians had nothing to do with Christian
terrorism back then just like like the vast majority of Muslims have
nothing to do with Islamic terrorism now.
But when talking about the killing of innocents in India (as we were)
the Hindus well and truly rule the roost.
Peter Webb
rapists>
>>> Sorry, don't think you're going to manage beating the Hindus for
>>> violence in India.
>>
>> The simple fact is that most Indians are Hindu, so most of everything is
>> done by Hindus.
>
>
> There ya go. The same is true of Muslims in Muslim countries. Pretty much
> means we can ignore all the rubbish flooding these newsgroups about
> Muslims then if that makes it excusable huh?
>
Most of the violence ascribed to Muslims in this newsgroup is in the
specific context of terrorism, you can argue about how you define terrorism,
but rioting is different to Mumbai or 9/11. I don't actually see any posts
in this newsgroup claiming Muslims have a monopoly on sectarian riots.
Muslims are the major pepetrators of terrorism, according to any definition
of the term, and ruthlessly export it world-wide. That Hindus also kill
Muslims in riots is very much a sideshow.
>
>> You have also failed to mention the 500,000 Hindus killed by Muslims
>> during Partition.
>
>
> The estimates are actually of 200,000 to 2,000,000 "Indians" killed from
> both sides. Afraid you don't get to say they were all Hindu. No-one knows
> how many from each of the religions (the Sikh's were also involved) but
> I'd suggest it was probably plenty of each religion depending on whether
> or not you were lucky enough to end up on the right side of the
> "partition".
>
>
>>> Try Pakistan and you'd be right, the Muslim fundamentalists there are
>>> killing left right and centre, although I don't know if they've racked
>>> up numbers as highly as the Hindu fundamentalists in India.
>>
>> In pretty much the whole world the majority of terrorism is perpetrated
>> by Muslims. That's obviously not the same thing as deaths that occur
>> during riots.
>
>
> I'd agree in reference to international terrorism, the Christians used to
> be at the top of the list when the only real international terrorism was
> at the hands of Christian Irish terrorists,
With only one target ...
> and now the only real international terrorism is at the hands of Muslim
> terrorists,
With 194 targets ...
> and it has been a shitload more devastating than the Christians of
> Northern Ireland ever managed and more directed at civilian targets making
> the previous Christian terrorism look like nothing in comparison. And I
> fully support any measures taken to kill the cunts who do this stuff off,
> unlike some of the greenleft people dwelling in these newsgroups.
>
It is truly, weirdly bizarre that you seek to compare the activities
directed by the IRA against the UK with the huge death tolls in countries
across the world over the last decade deriving from Islamic terrorism, and
therefore somehow (I guess) apologise for Islamic terrorism. The largest
death toll from a single IRA terrorist attack was 21 (for Islam it was
3,900) from 115 total over 25 years.
> But the vast majority of Christians had nothing to do with Christian
> terrorism back then just like like the vast majority of Muslims have
> nothing to do with Islamic terrorism now.
>
Northern Ireland was a political issue, about which country should
administer the area. It is completely unfair to lable this as "Christian
terrorism" because as far as I know, it wasn't done in the name of Christ,
nobody signed a statement saying they were doing it for God, they were doing
it to advance a political cause. OTOH, it is reasonable to talk about
"Islamic terrorism", but much of it is in done in the name of Allah.
> But when talking about the killing of innocents in India (as we were) the
> Hindus well and truly rule the roost.
Yeah, OK, rioting Hindus in India kill more people than rioting Muslims in
India kill.
And the IRA was a terrorist organisation.
So I guess 9/11, Mumbai, London, Madrid, Bali, Karachi, Jakarta, Tel Aviv
don't matter, and Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and Syria are all
wonderful places, a bit like Ireland itself, really?
Pete
> Most of the violence ascribed to Muslims in this newsgroup is in the
> specific context of terrorism, you can argue about how you define terrorism,
> but rioting is different to Mumbai or 9/11. I don't actually see any posts
> in this newsgroup claiming Muslims have a monopoly on sectarian riots.
>
> Muslims are the major pepetrators of terrorism, according to any definition
> of the term, and ruthlessly export it world-wide. That Hindus also kill
> Muslims in riots is very much a sideshow.
>
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims these days.
But, what do you expect? If the bastards had F18 jet fighters flying off of
nuclear powered super carriers blasting away at targets designated by
satellite surveillance. They wouldn't be called terrorists.
They'd be called a belligerent super power.
Not that I sympathize with them. But what does anyone expect from a bunch of
assholes who have fuck all but light arms, IEDs and radicalism to get what
they want done?
In the days when my father was in WW2, the Nazis had to put up with Guerrilla
warfare from resistance groups who had pretty well the same.
"irregular warfare and combat in which a small group of combatants use mobile
military tactics in the form of ambushes and raids to combat a larger and less
mobile formal army"
The differnce is that terrorism is against non-combatants, not a formal army.
Peter Webb
"Pete" <pete...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2597d667a...@News.Individual.NET...
> Peter Webb wrote
>> Most of the violence ascribed to Muslims in this newsgroup is in the
>> specific context of terrorism, you can argue about how you define
>> terrorism,
>> but rioting is different to Mumbai or 9/11. I don't actually see any
>> posts
>> in this newsgroup claiming Muslims have a monopoly on sectarian riots.
>>
>> Muslims are the major pepetrators of terrorism, according to any
>> definition
>> of the term, and ruthlessly export it world-wide. That Hindus also kill
>> Muslims in riots is very much a sideshow.
>>
>
> Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims these
> days.
>
> But, what do you expect? If the bastards had F18 jet fighters flying
> off of
> nuclear powered super carriers blasting away at targets designated by
> satellite surveillance. They wouldn't be called terrorists.
>
> They'd be called a belligerent super power.
>
>
> Not that I sympathize with them. But what does anyone expect from a
> bunch of
> assholes who have fuck all but light arms, IEDs and radicalism to get what
> they want done?
>
They haven't. 9/11, Mumbai, London, Madrid were all sophisticated
operations, and used considerably more than the weapons you have listed.
Somewhat ironically, as far as I am aware none Islamic terrorist attacks (ie
those targetting civilians) against non-Islamic countries have used light
arms or IEDs. They tend to use civilian aircraft, suicide belts, and
rockets.
> In the days when my father was in WW2, the Nazis had to put up with
> Guerrilla
> warfare from resistance groups who had pretty well the same.
>
What, the resistance groups in WW2 targetted civilians?
Planted bombs in markets filled by their own citizens? Blew up churches with
people inside?
Really?
> "irregular warfare and combat in which a small group of combatants use
> mobile
> military tactics in the form of ambushes and raids to combat a larger and
> less
> mobile formal army"
>
So it has to be done to combat a "larger and less mobile formal army".
The victims in 9/11 were not a larger and less mobile formal army. The
victims in London were not a larger and less mobile formal army. The victims
in Bali were not a larger and less mobile formal army. The victims in Mumbai
were not a larger and less mobile formal army. The victims in Madrid were
not a larger and less mobile formal army.
These were terrorist attacks against civilian targets. They were not the
actions of a Guerilla army, at least not as *you* have defined it.
>
> The differnce is that terrorism is against non-combatants, not a formal
> army.
>
>
Yup.
So these things weren't Guerilla warfare, they were terrorist attacks. Got
it.
Moslem cartoon character mohammed was a paedophile 6th century warlord and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems
and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement
brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under
subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA.,
Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the
slayer of fecal stained moslems Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
> Moslem cartoon character mohammed was a paedophile 6th century warlord
> and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement
> brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under
> subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA.,
> Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the
> slayer of fecal stained moslems Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wassim Noujeim (shitskin moslem Faris Jawad) left Canada to attend a
>> terrorist training camp in Jordan, and he spent his last nigh in Canda
>> at this hotel : MONTREAL-AIRPORT,,6500 COTE DE LIESSE,MONTREAL, QC
>> H4T1E3 CANADA,Hotel Front Desk: 1-514-7393391 :::: Shitskin
>> moslem, Wassim Noujeim, abusing this service :- Canada, Saint-laurent,
>> QC h4t1e3, Cote De Liesse Hotels, Bell Canada ---
>> Wassim Noujeim. 8110 Pesant Saint-Leonard, QC H1R 2Y2 Canada.
>> Phone: +1 514 728 0550 mailto: nou...@yahoo.com -
>> ---- 이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 - - الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
>> ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
>>
>> http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
>>
>>
>> Hamzeh Abu-Abed
>> Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
>> mehya...@hotmail.com
>> kaled...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Jordan Data Communication Ltd.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wassim Noujeim (shitskin moslem Faris Jawad) left Canada to attend a
> terrorist training camp in Jordan, and he spent his last nigh in Canda
> at this hotel : MONTREAL-AIRPORT,,6500 COTE DE LIESSE,MONTREAL, QC
> H4T1E3 CANADA,Hotel Front Desk: 1-514-7393391 :::: Shitskin moslem,
> Wassim Noujeim, abusing this service :- Canada, Saint-laurent, QC
> h4t1e3, Cote De Liesse Hotels, Bell Canada ---
> Wassim Noujeim. 8110 Pesant Saint-Leonard, QC H1R 2Y2 Canada.
> Phone: +1 514 728 0550 mailto: nou...@yahoo.com -
> ---- 이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 - - الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
> ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
>
> http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
>
>
> Hamzeh Abu-Abed
> Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
> mehya...@hotmail.com
> kaled...@gmail.com
>
>
> Jordan Data Communication Ltd.
>
>
>
>
Wassim Noujeim (shitskin moslem Faris Jawad) left Canada to attend a
terrorist training camp in Jordan, and he spent his last nigh in Canda
at this hotel : MONTREAL-AIRPORT,,6500 COTE DE LIESSE,MONTREAL, QC
H4T1E3 CANADA,Hotel Front Desk: 1-514-7393391 :::: Shitskin moslem,
Wassim Noujeim, abusing this service :- Canada, Saint-laurent, QC
h4t1e3, Cote De Liesse Hotels, Bell Canada ---
Wassim Noujeim. 8110 Pesant Saint-Leonard, QC H1R 2Y2 Canada.
Phone: +1 514 728 0550 mailto: nou...@yahoo.com -
---- 이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 - - الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
Hamzeh Abu-Abed
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
mehya...@hotmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
Jordan Data Communication Ltd.
Hunter
> <SNIP a pretty reasonable argument that Indian Hindus can also be
> murderous rapists>
>
>> much means we can ignore all the rubbish flooding these newsgroups
>> about Muslims then if that makes it excusable huh?
>
> Most of the violence ascribed to Muslims in this newsgroup is in the
> specific context of terrorism, you can argue about how you define
> terrorism, but rioting is different to Mumbai or 9/11. I don't actually
> see any posts in this newsgroup claiming Muslims have a monopoly on
> sectarian riots.
I see plenty that go on about one off incidents in their home countries
here and there, no different to the same sort of incidents going on in
other people's countries. You wont see me arguing against posts to do
with Islamic terrorism as they are valid.
> Muslims are the major pepetrators of terrorism, according to any
> definition of the term, and ruthlessly export it world-wide. That Hindus
> also kill Muslims in riots is very much a sideshow.
Not a sideshow that I brought up though, I merely responded to it.
>> I'd agree in reference to international terrorism, the Christians used
>> to be at the top of the list when the only real international
>> terrorism was at the hands of Christian Irish terrorists,
>
> With only one target ...
>
>> and now the only real international terrorism is at the hands of
>> Muslim terrorists,
>
> With 194 targets ...
>
>> and it has been a shitload more devastating than the Christians of
>> Northern Ireland ever managed and more directed at civilian targets
>> making the previous Christian terrorism look like nothing in
>> comparison. And I fully support any measures taken to kill the cunts
>> who do this stuff off, unlike some of the greenleft people dwelling in
>> these newsgroups.
>
> It is truly, weirdly bizarre that you seek to compare the activities
> directed by the IRA against the UK with the huge death tolls in
> countries across the world over the last decade deriving from Islamic
> terrorism,
I merely pointed out that it's been different people at different times.
I also pointed out that the previous Christian efforts look like nothing
in comparison to the current waves of Islamic terrorism. No-one's got a
monopoly on it, but Islamic terrorism has by far been the worst and most
vicious seen in the last few centuries.
> and therefore somehow (I guess) apologise for Islamic
> terrorism.
Not at all, I was probably one of the most vehement supporters of the
West's response to this terrorism, and it makes me laugh to see some of
the parties that argued against our "evil invasion of Afghanistan" and
would have a go at me and others for supporting the invasion of
Afghanistan, now talking about the dangers of importing innocent Muslims
who have had no involvement in terrorism. I think perhaps their heads
may be jammed backwards up their arses, they couldn't see the real enemy
when we went after them, but are imagining enemies now where there are none.
> The largest death toll from a single IRA terrorist attack was
> 21 (for Islam it was 3,900) from 115 total over 25 years.
Yep, and as I said Islamic terrorism made the previous era of Christian
terrorism look like nothing.
>> But the vast majority of Christians had nothing to do with Christian
>> terrorism back then just like like the vast majority of Muslims have
>> nothing to do with Islamic terrorism now.
>>
>
> Northern Ireland was a political issue, about which country should
> administer the area. It is completely unfair to lable this as "Christian
> terrorism" because as far as I know, it wasn't done in the name of
> Christ, nobody signed a statement saying they were doing it for God,
> they were doing it to advance a political cause. OTOH, it is reasonable
> to talk about "Islamic terrorism", but much of it is in done in the name
> of Allah.
Much of the division was drawn along Protestant/Catholic lines, and many
were killed merely for being one or the other. Religion most definitely
came into it even if the core basis was political. And at the end of the
day much of the Islamic terrorism also comes from political roots, but
the people being recruited are being pulled with the cry of religion in
a much more sinister way. Where religion may have just been a
contributing factor and polarising agent in the Irish troubles, with
Islamic terrorism it's the focal point of recruitment.
>> But when talking about the killing of innocents in India (as we were)
>> the Hindus well and truly rule the roost.
>
> Yeah, OK, rioting Hindus in India kill more people than rioting Muslims
> in India kill.
>
> And the IRA was a terrorist organisation.
Yep.
> So I guess 9/11, Mumbai, London, Madrid, Bali, Karachi, Jakarta, Tel
> Aviv don't matter,
Who said that? Not me. I'd like to see every one of the cunts that still
lives killed slowly and painfully, and any member of the organisations
they belong to as well. A lot of Muslims also feel the same way, in a
lot of cases with far better reason than I have.
> and Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and Syria
> are all wonderful places, a bit like Ireland itself, really?
I prefer Australia to be honest.
bringyagrogalong
bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> "Tex" <discredited.pedant...@loses.yet.another.challenge.com> wrote:
> > Serge Who Can't Afford A Free Newsreader (aka. "bringyagrogalong")<CozSergeIsPoorHereAreSomeDots...@FakeNYEParty.net.au> wrote in message
> > "Tex" <tropi...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > > "Al Smith" <inva...@address.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > Compared to the Israelis, the Palestinians are saints.
>
> > > > Let me be clear ... the Israelis are *completely* in the *wrong* on the
> > > > Palestinian issue. There is no shadow of a question about it.
>
> > > Too bad you're wrong.
>
> > But you said, and I quote: “Hamas are anti-nazis”.
>
> > It's a bit late in the day to change your mind about the Israeli's
> > being Nazis.
>
> > -----
>
> > Where did I say that Sergey?
>
> Right here...
>
> "just anti-nazis, which is what hamas are"
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6bzbbu
>
> Your words, Tex. Not mine!
>
> > I notice you couldn't provide a URL.
>
> Here you go...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6bzbbu
>
> > But that's no surprise, given that you've shown tonight you
> > can't figure out how Google Groups works. LOL
>
> Would that be one of those expensive "free newsreaders"?
>
> ROFL Check out what that congenital idiot said...
>
> "Sergey, who it seems is too poor to afford a free newsreader"
>
> What a card-carrying drongo. ROFLMAO
hmmmm! Look like Tex has done another one of his predictable bunks.
LOL
Let's see. I posted this on Dec 17 so it's well past his 24 hr
deadline. <huge grin>
Tex
<FakeParty@RunAway!!RunAway!!.net.au> wrote before checking his facts (LOL):
> Tex's thongs hitting the bitumen on the quickest way out of town.
Oh dear. You'd best read on, Sergey. LOL :)
I think you meant "Looks", idiot. LOL
>Tex has done another one of his predictable bunks.
> LOL
You should have looked a little closer :)
> Let's see. I posted this on Dec 17 so it's well past his 24 hr
> deadline. <huge grin>
I responded to it on the same day, you senile fuckwit.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like you did a runner from that sub-thread too. Guess you missed your
own 24-hour deadline. LOL :)
Haaaahahahahahahaha
bringyagrogalong
<tropi...@serge.just.cleverly.got.me.to.repost.my.admission.that.hamas.are.nazis.com>
wrote:
> Serge The Fuck-Up (aka. bringyagrogalong) <FakeParty@RunAway!!RunAway!!.net.au> wrote before checking his facts (LOL):
>
> > Tex's thongs hitting the bitumen on the quickest way out of town.
>
> Oh dear. You'd best read on, Sergey. LOL :)
>
> > bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
Tex was so excited in his mistaken belief that I fucked-up, that he
forgot to change my email address. LOL
Mind you, he's probably given up changing them because the luddite
doesn't know how to make them visible. LOL even louder.
Let me simply say........."whereever". :-}
I thought that might shut you up. ROFL
> > Tex has done another one of his predictable bunks.
> > LOL
>
> You should have looked a little closer :)
hmmm! Is that...a missing..full point I see?
> > Let's see. I posted this on Dec 17 so it's well past his 24 hr
> > deadline. <huge grin>
>
> I responded to it on the same day, you senile fuckwit.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ylq8noj
>
> ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Looks like you did a runner from that sub-thread too. Guess you missed your
> own 24-hour deadline. LOL :)
>
> Haaaahahahahahahaha
It was just my way of getting you to highlight your following
admission, and it worked a treat...
> > It's a bit late in the day to change your mind about the Israeli's
> > being Nazis.
> > -----
> > Where did I say that Sergey?
> Right here...
> "just anti-nazis, which is what hamas are"
> Your words, Tex. Not mine!
> > I notice you couldn't provide a URL.
> Here you go...
Come-in Spinner!
And thanks for playing, Tex. ROFL
Can it get any easier than this?
Tex
<Fake...@MakingSomeLameExcuse.net.au> wrote after realising what he'd
done:
> "Tex"
> <tropi...@serge.just.cleverly.got.me.to.repost.my.admission.that.hamas.are.nazis.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Serge The Fuck-Up (aka. bringyagrogalong)
> > <FakeParty@RunAway!!RunAway!!.net.au> wrote before checking his facts
> > (LOL):
>
> > > Tex's thongs hitting the bitumen on the quickest way out of town.
>
> > Oh dear. You'd best read on, Sergey. LOL :)
Poor Sergey must have shit himself when he realised what was coming. LOL :)
> > > bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>
> Tex was so excited in his mistaken belief that I fucked-up,
But you did fuck up, Sergey, and you're now trying to blubber your way out
of it. Not doing a very good job of it either. LOL :)
> that he
> forgot to change my email address. LOL
Well, you don't know how to make them visible anyway. Hehehehehe :)
> Mind you, he's probably given up changing them because the luddite
> doesn't know how to make them visible. LOL even louder.
I do, but obviously you don't. You were the one who didn't even know that
Google Groups truncated them. LOL
Let me simply say "ot".
How many times did you fuck up the spelling of "to" again? LOL
> I thought that might shut you up. ROFL
But it didn't.
My pointing out your epic "ot" fuck-up made you snip an entire post though.
Must have stung a bit. LOL :)
> > > Tex has done another one of his predictable bunks.
> > > LOL
>
> > You should have looked a little closer :)
>
> hmmm! Is that...a missing..full point I see?
Well, you might try capitalising "hmmm" next time. LOL
> > > Let's see. I posted this on Dec 17 so it's well past his 24 hr
> > > deadline. <huge grin>
>
> > I responded to it on the same day, you senile fuckwit.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/ylq8noj
>
> > ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > Looks like you did a runner from that sub-thread too. Guess you missed
> > your
> > own 24-hour deadline. LOL :)
No refutation from Sergey. LOL
> > Haaaahahahahahahaha
>
> It was just my way of getting you to highlight your following
> admission, and it worked a treat...
LOL. You had all this time to think of an excuse and that's the best one you
could think of? Bwahahahaha :)
You had already posted this so-called "admission", so you didn't need me to
"highlight" it. The only thing I highlighted was my destruction of your
stupid argument in my reply. You know, the one where you ended up doing a
bunk. Thanks for drawing attention to that though. LOL
Bwaaahahahaha. Poor Serge desperately tries to squirm out of his colossal
fuck-up and fails completely. Hahahaha :)
Now remind me how I didn't respond to your post. Talk about the biggest
fuck-up in Usenet history. ROFL :)
Poor senile Sergey. LOL :)
> > > It's a bit late in the day to change your mind about the Israeli's
> > > being Nazis.
> > > -----
> > > Where did I say that Sergey?
> > Right here...
> > "just anti-nazis, which is what hamas are"
> >http://tinyurl.com/6bzbbu
> > Your words, Tex. Not mine!
> > > I notice you couldn't provide a URL.
> > Here you go...
> >http://tinyurl.com/6bzbbu
>
> Come-in Spinner!
Too bad you had already mentioned this in your own post, retard. ROFLMAO
After having your arse kicked in every single argument with me, you
desperately tried to triumphantly claim I had done a runner from your post.
Too bad you were too stupid to notice I had already replied to it. ROFL
Not only that, but it allowed me to highlight the sub-thread you had done a
runner from. LOL :)
Don't try and squirm out of your epic fuck-up now Sergey.
This squirming effort is almost as lame as your epic squirming after your
"$268 million equals $2 billion" fuck-up. You first claimed you'd never said
it, then blubbered someone else had forged it, then claimed you'd really
been talking about Zimbabwe dollars (in NSW....LOL) and finally you tried
blubbering that it had been a joke all along.
Now remind me how I didn't reply within 24 hours to your post. ROFL
> And thanks for playing, Tex. ROFL
I always enjoy winning. Hehehe
Poor Serge must have panicked when he realised he had made yet another epic
fuck-up. LOL :)
> Can it get any easier than this?
Apparently, you don't find it easy to look for replies. ROFL