SWAT team called in over grass grow higher than a foot
BAxtor the death cult awaits...
A call to the city's SWAT team was the final move against one property owner
who let his grass grow higher than a foot.
WTHR
Wednesday, July 8, 2009
Indianapolis - A call to the city's SWAT team was the final move against one
property owner who let his grass grow higher than a foot.
Specially trained officers were called out to the 9000 block of Harrison Run
Drive as city crews tried to groom one unruly yard on the northeast side.
Harrison Run is a neighborhood well cared for. At home after home in this
subdivision near 71st and Fall Creek Road, neighbors tend to their yards.
That's why one in particular stood out - or in this case, stood up.
"We're talking about a foot and half tall," said Luis Araoz, neighbor.
But the high grass produced more than just dandelions. Monday morning, it
called out Metro's SWAT team.
"This is a first for something I had to run up against," said Lt. Jeff
Duhamell, IMPD.
Full story here.
http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=10651525
Chom Noamsky
wrote in message:
> SWAT team called in over landscaping flap
Good. What's the point of having laws if they aren't enforced.
If people derive enjoyment and pleasure from keeping their neighbourhoods
visually appealing and tidy, and you dectract from that pleasure against
municipal laws, then you're infringing on the rights of others.
Besides, what kind of an idiot passes up an opportunity to have his lawn
mowed for free....
stan
> > SWAT team called in over landscaping flap
Ah yes. Indianopolis, Canada; eh?
sdgreen
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"sdgreen" <sd.g...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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IT shows the kind of socilaist views that is in Canada, even with you
Greeny...
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BAxtor the death cult awaits...
"Chom Noamsky" <po...@bbq.yum> wrote in message
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> "BAxtor the death cult awaits..." <wokpr.global.gov@.....56768870.glb.na>
> wrote in message:
> > SWAT team called in over landscaping flap
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> Good. What's the point of having laws if they aren't enforced.
There was no law in place....it was based on a community cult who has
nothing better to do then harress people who will not bend over for them and
if there was, then tell us how it relates to one's own private property.
> If people derive enjoyment and pleasure from keeping their neighbourhoods
> visually appealing and tidy, and you dectract from that pleasure against
> municipal laws, then you're infringing on the rights of others.
So in other words, you don't really beleive in property rights..Private
property is any property that is not public property or belonging to an
neighbourhood. Private property may be under the control of a single
individual or by a group of individuals collectively.
Now keep in Mind Comrade...some philosophers like Karl Marx use it to
describe a social relationship between those who sell their labor power and
those who buy it.
So since when did others in neighbourhood cults beleive they can do as they
please with someone's own property.
It would be like myself deciding that because you had to many cars in your
driveway, that it wasn't conforming to the local neighbourhood view that
everyone else had to have one or two cars in their driveway....does that
give myself the right to tell you how many cars you may have, and because
you having to many cars, does that give myself the right to phone the police
to have all your other cars towed away at your exspense as it didn't conform
to the views of many others in the neighboorhood.
Somehow I think you would be very up set if someone like myself decided you
couldn't have more then two cars.
I notice you have really confused the issue as "infringing on the rights of
others" as some kind of god given right to dictate Private property laws
.......Modern property rights conceive of ownership and possession as
belonging to legal individuals, even if the legal individual is not a real
person.
Tell us again how you came to that conclustion and beleive you can force
anything on people to cut their grass (remember Private property) who refuse
to conform to a cult like neighbourhood........hmmmmm, sounds like a a
dictatorship type of mentiality, and wee bit extremism
So let break this down for you about this issue of Private property ...
Property is any physical or virtual entity that is owned by an individual or
jointly by a group of individuals. An owner of property has the right to
consume, sell, rent, mortgage, transfer and exchange his or her property.
Important widely-recognized types of property include real property (land),
personal property (physical possessions belonging to an individual), public
property (state owned or publicly owned and available possessions) A title,
or a right of ownership, is associated with property that establishes the
relation between the goods/services and other individuals or groups,
assuring the owner the right to dispense with the property in a manner he or
she sees fit. Some philosophers assert that property rights arise from
social convention. Others find origins for them in morality or natural law
(e.g. Saint Irenaeus).
So I guess this puts you in this type of group.....Both communism and some
kinds of socialism have also upheld the notion that private property is
inherently illegitimate. This argument is centered mainly on the idea that
the creation of private property will always benefit one class over another,
giving way to domination through the use of this private property.
Communists are naturally not opposed to personal property which is
"Hard-won, self-acquired, self-earned" (Communist Manifesto), by members of
the proletariat.
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> Besides, what kind of an idiot passes up an opportunity to have his lawn
> mowed for free...
Errr, no Comrade, he has to pay the city crews for their work and that will
come out of his taxes.
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Chom Noamsky
Property rights also include the right to enjoy the use of your property
without being impacted negatively by your neighbours. If I crank heavy
metal music at 110 db in my back yard, and it bothers you, should I care?
Property rights aren't a license to do anything you like.
Here a very similar case (and one actually relevant to Canada):
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Technology/have+rights+neighbours/1769177/story.html
Who is right here? Do I have the right not to be bothered by neighbours who
breed mosquitos and attract skunks? These individuals are affecting
negatively the enjoyment and use of other peoples' property.
If I move next door to you and decide I don't want to mow my lawn, breed
mosquitos and weeds, attract skunks, AND blast heavy metal music at 100 db
24 hours a day... will you defend my right to do so? You can just stock-up
on deet and ear plugs...
BAxtor the death cult awaits...
"Chom Noamsky" <po...@bbq.yum> wrote in message
That's right Norm..enjoy the use of your property ...
> without being impacted negatively by your neighbours. If I crank heavy
> metal music at 110 db in my back yard, and it bothers you, should I care?
> Property rights aren't a license to do anything you like.
What you are claiming is a nosie bylaw, not a grass bylaw, where the
neighbours can with some kind of cult mind set and phone police to force a
person to cut his lawn........now a completely naturalized garden that's
ok......
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> Here a very similar case (and one actually relevant to Canada):
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http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Technology/have+rights+neighbours/1769177/story.html
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> Who is right here? Do I have the right not to be bothered by neighbours
who
> breed mosquitos and attract skunks? These individuals are affecting
> negatively the enjoyment and use of other peoples' property.
>
> If I move next door to you and decide I don't want to mow my lawn,
that's your right.......
>breed
> mosquitos and weeds, attract skunks,
a completely naturalized garden that's ok
AND blast heavy metal music at 100 db
> 24 hours a day...
What you are claiming is a nosie bylaw and people with common sense don't
blast their music 24 hours a day....I could point out how a company that I
know makes nosie 24 hours a day and the town mayor is ok with that....
will you defend my right to do so? You can just stock-up
> on deet and ear plugs...
Yes, providing I could do the same thing...to blast your music with my own
music....it might be fun.....
Viejo Vizcacha
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> "sdgreen" <sd.gr...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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It actually shows the kind of private property fundamentalists that
exist everywhere, but seem to breed more in the US than anywhere else.
VV
Chom Noamsky
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It's long been evident that Mark failed geography...
BAxtor the death cult awaits...
"Chom Noamsky" <po...@bbq.yum> wrote in message
It's also been noted, the comrade chimpy, spends his days longing for the
socilaist world to emerge in a one world government dictatorship...
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Gerrald Arnasen
and Mark wants to live in a country totally free of government services, and
be able to do absolutely anything and everything
he wants.
He'd love living in Somalia. No government there, and he can do whatever he
wants. He'd be on his own there.
Roy
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> "BAxtor the death cult awaits..." <wokpr.global.gov@.....56768870.glb.na>
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> >> "stan" <tsanf...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> >> On Jul 8, 3:06 pm, "Chom Noamsky" <p...@bbq.yum> wrote:
> >> > > SWAT team called in over landscaping flap
> >> .
> >> > Ah yes. Indianopolis, Canada; eh?
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> >> It's long been evident that Mark failed geography...
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> > It's also been noted, the comrade chimpy, spends his days longing for the
> > socilaist world to emerge in a one world government dictatorship...
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> and Mark wants to live in a country totally free of government services, and
> be able to do absolutely anything and everything
> he wants.
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> He'd love living in Somalia. No government there, and he can do whatever he
> wants. He'd be on his own there.
Well, he does live in B.C....remember the comic-strip? Mark would fit
right in. Give him an animal skin suit and a club and turn him loose.
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