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Obama Boycotting Berlin Wal Anniversay Ceromony. Is It Jealously Of Reagan's Truimph Or Is It Because Of His Marxism Sympathies?

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Crap Detector

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:25:34 PM11/8/09
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You be the judge. He lies by saying he is too busy. Busy at what? The sucker
has not accomplished anything good in almost a year of his presidency.
And he seems to have time for a lot of frivolous activates like playing
pick-up basketball, bowling or making 6 campaign speeches to help the now
defeated Demorat governor of New Jersey.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/08/obama-draws-criticism-sitting-berlin-wall-anniversary/

--
By the test of serious intellectual
persuasiveness, Marx was hardly a
a 'great thinker", though he often appears
as such in low-level academic curricula.
---Robert Conquest "Reflections on a
Ravaged Century".

Crap Detector

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:39:01 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 7:25 pm, "Crap Detector" <detec...@utopia.com> wrote:
> You be the judge. He lies by saying he is too busy. Busy at what? The sucker
> has not accomplished anything good in almost a year of his presidency.
> And he seems to have time for a lot of frivolous activates like playing
> pick-up basketball, bowling or making 6 campaign speeches to help the now
> defeated Demorat governor of New Jersey.
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/08/obama-draws-criticism-sitt...
>
Oops, there were some typos in the heading. The words "wall",
"anniversary", "Marxist" and "ceremony" were mistyped. My apologies.
Methinks I am writing too many posts, perhapsl

Duke

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:50:33 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 7:25 pm, "Crap Detector" <detec...@utopia.com> wrote:
>

More bulllshit
---

"It's the usual one sided bitter hatred spewed by the fascist
right. Crap
Detector has been in a hysterical frenzied blood lust since he first
got word of
the shootings. Everybody knows that he's a little man, a mean
spirited racist
and a bigot who has no brain cells left. He's the lowest common
denominator
and of no significance. Too cowardly to face off with those he
hates, he
hides behind his keyboard and spews shit all day because he doesn't
work and has
no money to do anything else.

A simple search on Google news exposes hundreds of reports from Muslim
associations condemning the attacks, yet the fascist goose stepping
coward
pretends he's Fox News and finds one dubious story claiming otherwise.

http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=mu...

He's a low life liar who drags down all Conservatives with his
conduct. My
guess is that anyone that dishonest must be a felon.

Why is it that gullible scum like him thrive on lies and distortions
and always
fear the truth when it comes to promoting their warped agendas?

It proves that his ideology can't stand up to scrutiny, and he knows
it. "

Tim McVeigh - Republican

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:10:43 PM11/8/09
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Crap Detector wrote
>
> You be the judge.
Another blindly partisan radical right wing extremist ideologue, posting from
his alternate reality of lies, half-truths, propaganda and distortions.
Obviously a gullible pathological liar who believes his own transparent
deceptions. A fool who has no courage in his convictions so he must tell lies
in a feeble attempt to boost failing support for his "beliefs".

Ross John "Crap Detector" Lambourn is a right wing freedom hating hypocrite,
asshole, attention starved loon and liar. He is a retired career civil servant
who resides in Canada sucking from the social safety net and living off a tax
payer funded pension. It's no end of irony that he sees himself as a capitalist.
He frequently uses the above pseudonyms to fake support for the gibberish he
posts on Usenet.

He is also a noted seditious America hating traitor who has continually called
for the suspension of the US Constitution and the cancellation of American civil
liberties. Lambourn is consumed with hate and bitterness and expresses it by
posting incoherent screeds based on his distorted and delusional view of the
world.

Most know him for his early morning, booze fueled rants which rarely make sense
and serve no other purpose than to feed his perverse cravings for public
ridicule.

Now that they've been soundly defeated and their popularity is at all time lows
due to how they sabotaged the world economy, killed Americans and currently do
nothing but obstruct the efforts of those who endeavor to fix what they caused,
the desperate shrill Limbaugh worshiping Bushites have nothing more to do than
cry and whine on Usenet by telling lies. They are non productive societal
leeches, parasites determined to bring down this country and the world.


Dänk 1010011010

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:28:24 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 5:25 pm, "Crap Detector" <detec...@utopia.com> wrote:
> You be the judge. He lies by saying he is too busy. Busy at what? The sucker
> has not accomplished anything good in almost a year of his presidency.
> And he seems to have time for a lot of frivolous activates like playing
> pick-up basketball, bowling or making 6 campaign speeches to help the now
> defeated Demorat governor of New Jersey.

Obama certainly wasn't too busy to visit Berlin during the campaign,
in an attempt to recreate JFK's famous 1963 trip as a publicity stunt
(Obama later abandoned the JFK comparison in favor of comparing
himself to FDR, which fit in better with the financial crisis he was
going to save us from).

Maybe Obama is too embarrassed to celebrate the fall of the Berlin
wall since he is presiding over the construction of another wall along
America's border with Mexico. Free countries don't build walls,
totalitarian countries do.

Mr. Obama, tear down this wall!

Phlip

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:37:50 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 4:39 pm, Crap Detector <cicer...@rogers.com> wrote:

> Oops,  there were some typos in the heading.  The words "wall",
> "anniversary", "Marxist" and "ceremony" were mistyped. My apologies.

np. Their spelling was average for posts of your slant...

> Methinks I am writing too many posts, perhapsl

You think?

Nick

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:38:12 PM11/8/09
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----


Right wingers are desperate losers. These fringe kooks are the best thing
that's happened to the left in decades.

ArmyOfDorkness

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:41:53 PM11/8/09
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"Crap Detector" <cice...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 8, 7:25 pm, "Crap Detector" <detec...@utopia.com> wrote:
>> You be the judge. He lies by saying he is too busy. Busy at what? The
>> sucker
>> has not accomplished anything good in almost a year of his presidency.
>> And he seems to have time for a lot of frivolous activates like playing
>> pick-up basketball, bowling or making 6 campaign speeches to help the now
>> defeated Demorat governor of New Jersey.
>>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/08/obama-draws-criticism-sitt...
>>
> Oops, there were some typos in the heading. The words "wall",
> "anniversary", "Marxist" and "ceremony" were mistyped. My apologies.
> Methinks I am writing too many posts, perhapsl

Or maybe you're just an idiot

Phlip

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:40:50 PM11/8/09
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Oh, I know what you mean - he boycotted my birthday, too! Maybe he
hates all programmers or something...

> Mr. Obama, tear down this wall!

The one between California and Mexico? Then all the unemployed will
stream over the border, into Tijuana!

Killing, Inc.

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:04:25 PM11/8/09
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Nice try redirecting my response to your mindless post to another
newsgroup, you little punk-ass coward. You must be one major pussy boy
if words scare you.

On Nov 8, 7:10 pm, Tim McVeigh - Republican <mcve...@gop.org> wrote:
> Crap Detector wrote
>
> > You be the judge.
>

> Another blindly partisan radical right wing...

Blah, blah, blah...you're a fucking broken record like all the other
mindless wingnut robots on Usenet repeating whatever the MSNBC
stooges
tell you the say.

Obama's politics, Machiavellian pressure tactics, lack of
intellectual
curiousity, and failure to recognize any opinion different than his
own show him to be a leftist tyrant who empathizes with the beliefs
of
those who put up the Berlin wall.
Why don't you just own up to the fact that your wannabe Messiah
president wishes the other side of the wall had won the Cold War?
Sheesh, the only time he's taken off from fundraising trips on the
taxpayer dime, basketball, and golf is to push through an already
doomed Marxist health neglect bill through the House.


What a bunch of baffoons numbnut leftwingers are!


Have a nice day.

USENET

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:19:55 PM11/8/09
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Big difference. The Berlin Wall was built to keep ppl in, the wall
with Mexico is designed to keep ppl out.

Escape_the_Cult_Now

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:05:07 PM11/8/09
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More of the usual babble from the Limbaugh worshiping Alabama redneck.

Killing, Inc. wrote

klunk

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Nov 8, 2009, 11:36:04 PM11/8/09
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"Duke" <igorel...@ymail.com> wrote in message
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ROTFLMAO.... duke!... you've discovered spirituality!.... how remarkably
refreshing it is to know that you've abandoned your anti-catholic bigotries
and have accepted the responsibility of shame for the antics of other
hate-mongering reichtoids... and I must say I'm pleased you've dropped that
idiotically hypocritical sig of yours.... ;-)



Limpball's Nookie

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Nov 8, 2009, 11:37:31 PM11/8/09
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"Killing, Inc." <i.am.kil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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So you have nothing. Did you firebomb those churches in Alabammy?


Duke

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:28:19 AM11/9/09
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"Killing, Inc." wrote:
> Nice try redirecting my response to your mindless post to another
> newsgroup, you little punk-ass coward. You must be one major pussy boy
> if words scare you.
>
> On Nov 8, 7:10 pm, Tim McVeigh - Republican <mcve...@gop.org> wrote:
>
> > Crap Detector wrote
>
> > > You be the judge.
>
> > Another blindly partisan radical right wing...
>
> Blah, blah, blah...you're a fucking broken record like all the other


>


> What a bunch of baffoons numbnut leftwingers are!


LOL ! Looks like the resident raving netkook liar has an illiterate
pet hillbilly defending him these days!


Dänk 1010011010

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:13:46 PM11/9/09
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Then I challenge you to climb over the wall INTO Mexico and see if
U.S. border guards don't shoot you in the back.

David Johnston

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:20:49 PM11/9/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:25:34 -0500, "Crap Detector"
<dete...@utopia.com> wrote:

>You be the judge. He lies by saying he is too busy.

He got criticized for showing up to the last such thing. He's getting
criticized for not showing up to this one. It is clear that he is
guilty of being Obama.

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Lamont Cranston

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:13:36 PM11/9/09
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Crap Detector wrote:
> You be the judge. He lies by saying he is too busy. Busy
> at what? The
> sucker has not accomplished anything good in almost a year
> of his
> presidency.

...except for:

Cut income taxes for 95% of Americans.

Reversed ban on financing of stem cell research.

Lifted a global gag rule barring international family
planning groups that receive U.S. aid from counseling women
about the availability of abortion.

Worked with Congress to pass the American Recovery and
Reinvestment Act, a $787 billion economic stimulus package
that has rescued the economy from the precipice of the Bush
Depression and includes nearly $100 billion in green
spending to help get the economy back on track and to create
millions of clean-energy jobs; GDP declined by only 0.7% in
the second quarter and is expected to show positive growth
in the third quarter.

Re-established the United States as a leader in
international climate negotiations.

Restored critical protections under the Endangered Species
Act.

Granted California the authority to regulate carbon dioxide
emissions from automobiles.

Reversed the Bush rule that opened the door to mountaintop
removal coal mining and cancelled several individual
mountaintop mining permits.

Put Utah oil and gas leases on hold.

Overturned Bush's Closed-door policy to improve the
transparency of rulemaking; requires his staff to consider
the non-market benefits of rulemaking, such as the
environment and public health.

Implemented a "Look before you lease" policy; directs land
managers to more carefully review environmentally sensitive
tracts of federal lands proposed for oiland gas development
before offering them for lease sale, especially if such
tracts contain wilderness values, sensitive species, or
other environmentally significant attributes.

Withdrew a Bush administration proposal to issue more oil
shale "research, development and demonstration" leases in
the West.

Proposed increased appropriations in 2010 for the Land and
Water Conservation Fund, national wildlife refuges, national
parks, wildfire management, and other environmental programs
that have suffered from chronic underfunding.

Extended the comment period on the Bush administration's
hastily prepared Outer Continental Shelf oil and gas leasing
program.

Signed the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009,
designating more than two million acres of federal public
lands as part of the National Wilderness Preservation
System; the law also codifies the National Landscape
Conservation Systemand designates 86 wild and scenic rivers.

Created an energy/climate change task force with renewable
energy given the top priority.

Reinstated requirements that federal agencies consult with
the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service before undertaking
projects that might affect threatened or endangered plants
and animals.

Reinstated coal strip-mining precautions gutted from a
federal regulation by Bush.

Appropriated $19 billion in the stimulus package to help
implement an electronic medical record system.

Implemented a new White House media system.

Approved 2,500 highway projects expected to create 260,000
new jobs.

Produced a $2,500 tax credit to help offset the cost of
tuition and other expenses for those seeking a college
education; nearly five million families are expected to save
$9 billion, according to Treasury officials.

Allocated $2 billion in stimulus cash for advanced batteries
system research.

Secured $5 billion in aid commitments to bolster the
Pakistan's destablized economy and help it fight terrorism.

Restored funding for Byrne Grants, cut during the Bush
years, to finance inner-city anti-gang and anti-gun task
forces.

Engaged the Muslim world, an achievement that foreign
affairs experts say was both remarkable and
under-appreciated.

Rescued Chrysler and GM.

Announcing plans to regulate coal-ash waste in the wake of
last December's catastrophic spill.

Cut off funding for the controversial Yucca Mountain nuclear
waste repository in Nevada.

Created a Clean Energy Service Corps as part of the
expansion of AmeriCorps.

Streamlined the loan guarantee program at the Department of
Energy.

Set a date for the closing of Gitmo.

Reversed Bush ban on federal funding of stem cell research,

Banned the use of torture.

Required interrogators to follow the procedures of the army
field manual when questioning prisoners.

Removed the ban on photographing caskets returning from
Iraq.

Signed the Equal Pay for Equal Work bill.

Created a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners.

Established a credit card bill of rights.

Expanded loan programs for small businesses.

Extended and indexed the 2007 Alternative Minimum Tax
temporary fix.

Expanded eligibility for State Children's Health Insurance
Fund.

Expanded funding to train primary care providers and public
health practitioners.

Increased funding to expand community based prevention
programs.

Signed the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with
Disabilities.

Granted Americans unrestricted rights to visit family and
send money to Cuba.

Established Energy Partnership for the Americas to increase
research and development in clean coal technology, the next
generation of sustainable biofuels and in wind, solar and
nuclear energy.

Rolled back Bush administration restrictions on the release
of presidential records.

Required new hires to sign a form affirming their hiring was
not due to political affiliation or contributions.

Created a White House Office on Urban Policy to develop a
strategy for metropolitan America and to ensure that all
federal dollars targeted to urban areas are effectively
spent on the highest-impact programs.

Appointed an assistant to the president for science and
technology policy.

Established special crime programs for the New Orleans area.

Rebuilt schools in New Orleans.

Appointed the nation's first Chief Technology Officer.

Appointed an American Indian policy adviser.

Banned lobbyist gifts to executive employees.

Weatherized 1 million homes.

Enacted a tax credit for consumers for plug-in hybrid cars.

Provided grants to encourage energy-efficient building
codes.

Extended unemployment insurance benefits and temporarily
suspended taxes on those benefits.

Cancelled the ill-conceived and dangerous missle-defense
shield planned for Poland and the Czech Republic.

Defined a new state secrets policy whereby it will be used
only to the extent necessary to protect against the risk of
significant harm to national security.

Won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Ended the Second Bush Recession.

SaPeIsMa

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"David Johnston" <da...@block.net> wrote in message
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After the way he screwed the Poles about the missiles, he doesn't have the
brass to show his face in that neck of the woods.

klunk

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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote in message
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lol... as if a cowardly hypocrite like you who stalks and harasses women on
usenut knows anything about brass....



Butteye_Jest

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:30:49 AM11/11/09
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In article <W9ydnb8zBsZtpGfX...@posted.cpinternet>,
"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote:

Two points. The Poles are happy with the new deal, and the stuffed shirt
Regan took somebody else's credit -neocon thief that he was.

--
Ole Butteye

G Lumley

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Butteye_Jest wrote

>
> Two points. The Poles are happy with the new deal, and the stuffed shirt
> Regan took somebody else's credit -neocon thief that he was.
>
>

Reagan made it worse. He prolonged the cold war with his rhetoric and policies.

Under the assumption that the Soviet Union could not then outspend the US
government in a renewed arms race, Reagan strove to make the Cold War
economically and rhetorically hot.

Many analysts argue that the eventual collapse of the Soviet Union was due more
to the re-emergence of separatist movements under glasnost, an inherent
weakness in communist economic theory, and the depressed global price of crude
oil, on which the Soviet economy during those years depended heavily.
Furthermore, Reagan's much heralded military buildup that increased American
military spending by 8% per annum in fact did not appear to have the planned
effect of forcing the Soviets to mirror American growth: according to CIA
estimates, Soviet military spending leveled off at a growth rate of 1.3% per
annum in 1975 and remained at that level for a decade, although it more than
tripled to approximately 4.3% in 1985 through 1987 (though spending on
offensive strategic weapons continued to grow at 1.3% during that period),
before returning to 1.3% in 1988.

Perhaps more startling, Reagan's military build up, coupled with his fierce
anti-soviet rhetoric, contributed to Soviet near-panic reaction to a routine
NATO exercises in November 1983, ABLE ARCHER 83. Though the threat of nuclear
war ended abruptly with the end of the exercise, this historically obscure
incident illustrates the possible negative repercussions of Reagan's "standing
tall" to a nuclear power. Some historians, among them Beth B. Fischer in her
book The Reagan Reversal, pin ABLE ARCHER 83 as an incident which had a
profound effect on President Reagan and his turn from a policy of Confrontation
towards the Soviet Union to a policy of rapprochement.

Duke

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:55:08 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 8, 8:28 pm, Dänk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
You right wingers are living a lie as usual. Do you get your history
from Fox News and US propaganda?

Reagan had as much to do with ending the Cold War and tearing down the
Berlin Wall as Dubya had to do with fighting in Vietnam. Gorbachev,
Kohl, and the leaders of the GDR and Hungary were the key people.

In fact, many politically neutral historians say that Reagan probably
extended the cold war with his policies and rhetoric.

There is now a near-consensus among historians that Mr. Reagan's
policies not only failed to end the Cold War, but probably prolonged
it for several years beyond its likely end date, by propelling the
most reactionary Communists into power.

From The Globe and Mail, 10/24/09:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/two-things-that-didnt-end-c...
Two things that didn't end communism

Reagan and 'people power': The 20th anniversary of the fall of the
Berlin Wall offers a chance to demolish some of the myths

By Doug Saunders

......................................................................................................................
Archie Brown, the Scottish historian of the Eastern Bloc known for his
pioneering work with declassified Soviet archives, has just published
a massive and significant work titled "The Rise and Fall of
Communism", full of lessons that are worth hearing today.

The primary myth is the one that holds that the West, and particularly
Ronald Reagan's United States, caused the ommunist bloc to collapse
through a Cold War policy of confrontation and isolation.

By this account, Mr. Reagan drove the Eastern Bloc into unconditional
surrender by declaring the Soviet Union an “evil empire” in 1983,
madly escalating the nuclear-arms count, launching “Star Wars” missile-
defence networks and shouting, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall,”
in Berlin in 1987.

“This,” Mr. Brown says, “is a kind of triumphalist view … which I
think is very misleading.”

In fact, there is now a near-consensus among historians that Mr.
Reagan's policies not only failed to end the Cold War, but probably
prolonged it for several years beyond its likely end date, by
propelling the most reactionary Communists into power.

“The more belligerent the United States became, in terms of Reagan's
rhetoric and in terms of arms buildup, the stronger the hard-liners
became in Moscow,” Mr. Brown says.

“Whenever the Cold War became colder, the most militant Communists,
the KGB and the military-industrial complex within the Soviet Union
became stronger.”

In fact, the collapse of communism was probably made possible, and
certainly rendered peaceful and non-violent, by quite another set of
Western policies – the kinds of policies that are finally being
revisited today as an alternative approach to such authoritarian
governments as those of Iran, Myanmar and North Korea.

West German governments, starting with chancellor Willy Brandt in the
1970s, decided to meet the Communist East with engagement and aid, not
confrontation.

These NeueOstpolitik (“new eastern policy”) tactics provided targeted
financial assistance and even bought hundreds of dissidents out of
prison.

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