The Chinese spy balloon hoax

[h hrh]

I disagree with some of PCR's comments. Not everything coming out of Warshinton is a hoax. But a spy balloon? Give me a break. The Chinese already know where all the missile sites are etc. They know everything there is to know.

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/02/07/the-chinese-spy-balloon-hoax/

After the Russiagate Hoax, the Covid hoax, and the Insurrection hoax, We now Have the Chinese Spy Balloon Hoax

According to Washington and the whore media, China sent a balloon that the Pentagon said “could” be loaded with explosives to spy on America. A top general said that similar balloons have entered US airspace undetected before. The balloon is huge–200 feet tall weighing in excess of a couple thousand pounds. So if such a large object can enter our airspace undetected, does this mean far smaller ICBMs can also? https://www.rt.com/news/571066-chinese-spy-balloon-explosives/

Do understand that what is going on here is the purposeful creation of an incident for propaganda purposes to stoke up more animosity against China, and to spend more money on defense in Asia. We don’t have a Malaysian airliner to blame on China, but we do have a weather balloon.

After receiving a brainwashing by a Pentagon briefing, Rep. Jim Himes (D,Conn.) says that US officials will “learn a lot” from the pieces of the “Chinese spy craft” that was shot down. https://www.theepochtimes.com/well-learn-a-lot-from-downed-chinese-spy-craft-top-intelligence-democrat_5037236.html?utm_source=Goodevening&src_src=Goodevening&utm_campaign=gv-2023-02-06&src_cmp=gv-2023-02-06&utm_medium=email&est=Y7JND2vR9qWS6bv3mTwO7wQqxu9qkY7BJfSUntz5oDIcE3MmqSPUhA%3D%3D

Two other dumbshit House members, one a Republican, one a Democrat declare the blown-off-course weather balloon “a violation of American sovereignty.” https://www.theepochtimes.com/well-learn-a-lot-from-downed-chinese-spy-craft-top-intelligence-democrat_5037236.html?utm_source=Goodevening&src_src=Goodevening&utm_campaign=gv-2023-02-06&src_cmp=gv-2023-02-06&utm_medium=email&est=Y7JND2vR9qWS6bv3mTwO7wQqxu9qkY7BJfSUntz5oDIcE3MmqSPUhA%3D%3D

The Chinese explanation is the only one that makes any sense:

“It is a civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological, purposes. Affected by the Westerlies and with limited self-steering capability, the airship deviated far from its planned course. The Chinese side regrets the unintended entry of the airship into US airspace due to an unforeseen and unintended outcome. The Chinese side will continue communicating with the US side and properly handle this unexpected situation caused by wind and limited steering capability.” (A translation uses the term “force majeure,” an unforeseen event.)

But the spy story continues. It is needed in order to worsen relations with China, the second nuclear power that Washington is doing everything it possibly can to antagonize. Keep in mind that in these days spying is done by satellites, not by weather balloons. If China is using balloons to spy on the US, why did China send a balloon over Columbia. Why is China spying on South America? https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-authorities-confirm-that-balloon-spotted-over-latin-america-is-chinese_5036552.html?utm_source=Goodevening&src_src=Goodevening&utm_campaign=gv-2023-02-06&src_cmp=gv-2023-02-06&utm_medium=email&est=A%2Bq%2BmHT0%2Far2YCpkxGAoJhKzlU7akx%2F7ECnWns40jjR8g67O3pdYGw%3D%3D

The Columbian military determined that the balloon posed no threat to national security, defense, or air safety. Washington lacks the capability of the Columbian military, because Washington is in the business of creating a hoax issue.

Try to think of something the government has told the truth about. Tonkin Gulf? Ruby Ridge? Waco? Oklahoma City Bombing? 9/11? Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction? Assad’s use of chemical weapons? Gaddafi? Russiagate? January 6 insurrection? Covid? Covid vaccine? Ukraine? Malaysian airliner? Find one thing that was true.

All the government’s lies, parroted by the presstitutes, are designed to advance secret agendas. The people are brainwashed with lies so that they go along with the agendas. That is the way the US government functions. There is no longer an American media. Just an indoctrination ministry. Only

official narratives please. All else is misinformation.
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[jdyoung]

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:16:47 AM UTC-5, behi...@gmail.com wrote:

> After the Russiagate Hoax, the Covid hoax, and the Insurrection hoax, We now Have the Chinese Spy Balloon Hoax
>
> According to Washington and the whore media

Ha!
That's all I need to read to watch my BS meter get pegged.
Conspiracy loons are a laugh.

J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com

Proselytize at your own risk

[h hrh]

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 1:54:44 PM UTC-5, jdyoung wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:16:47 AM UTC-5, behi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > After the Russiagate Hoax, the Covid hoax, and the Insurrection hoax, We now Have the Chinese Spy Balloon Hoax
> >
> > According to Washington and the whore media
> Ha!
> That's all I need to read to watch my BS meter get pegged.
> Conspiracy loons are a laugh.
>

What are you going on about? The official conspiracy theory that this balloon was spying, or that it was a hoax and it wasn't spying.
If you think the balloon was spying, then educate yourself. The Chinese don't need a spying balloon. They have something called satellites. Many of them. They have thousands of Chinese people/students in the US. Some are spies. They don't need no flippin' balloons.

[jdyoung]

I'm "going on" about your moronic sources and their laughably inane commentary and wild conspiracy theories.
Epoch Times, owned by the Falun Gong?
Speaking of "whore media" and hoaxes, these morons don't even know the difference between "Columbia" and "Colombia".
LOL!
But if you like to wallow in low rent crazy media, have at it.
Just understand you'll be viewed as a kook.

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-02-07 2:22 p.m., h hrh wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 1:54:44 PM UTC-5, jdyoung wrote:
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:16:47 AM UTC-5, behi...@gmail.com

>>> According to Washington and the whore media
>> Ha! That's all I need to read to watch my BS meter get pegged.
>> Conspiracy loons are a laugh.
>>
>
> What are you going on about? The official conspiracy theory that
> this balloon was spying, or that it was a hoax and it wasn't spying.
> If you think the balloon was spying, then educate yourself. The
> Chinese don't need a spying balloon. They have something called
> satellites. Many of them. They have thousands of Chinese
> people/students in the US. Some are spies. They don't need no
> flippin' balloons.

Maybe is was just a test of their air defense system. They wanted to see
what they could get away with, how much the Americans would tolerate
and if they could knock it down at that altitude. Remember back in the
1960s when the US was spying on the Soviet Union with U2s that flew so
high the Russians wouldn't be able to shoot them done? Then the Russians
turned out missiles that could take them out at that altitude.

[Duncan Patton a Campbell on atlas.indx.ca]

My guess is the Chinese have rockets that can take out a KeyHole SAT and
they just floated a "Policy" test... and got the answer they wanted.

Dhu


--
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C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
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[Greg Carr]

Falun Gong lies as does the Chinese govt. Dennis Watson the Surrey, BC gun nut unemployed is pictured here at a Falun Gong event https://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2016/7/24/157955p.html 2022 article about Falun Gong mentions him as a supporter https://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2022/4/29/200106.html

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How someone can piss me off, Daryl Grant Macaskill, a H.A. Pres, Kim Bolan and Post Media is beyond me. Plus lose a job with Canada Post what a moron and chronic liar as well. Hope Kim and Post Media win the lawsuit and I have offered them my help.

http://www.gangstersout.com My browser says that site is not secure on Sept. 17 he posted about the lawsuit none of his female ex's say anything good about him and Jeff Drakes his buddy is a white haired chronic liar with a phony business Google this ng for any of the names mentioned for more info Dennis Watson conspiracy kook claims the N.S. shooter was innocent I don't believe the official story but the violent denturist was guilty of mass spree murder and arson. Mr. Watson is very critical of RCMP never gives them any credit and has never even yelled at a gang member or drug dealer he lucked out when someone told him about a beheading murder in some place in AB I never heard about he had better info than the media which gave him cred for awhile but he has long since lost that with his lies, stupidity, gun nut lunacy, serious problems with females he had sex with and female employers, losing a lawsuit and being told by the Falun Gongers to stay away from their gatherings. (Greg: Feb. 10 2023 they changed their mind on that.) Mr. Watson says Blackwater contractors carried out Canada's worst murder spree and the various arsons that night.

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Saturday, September 17, 2022
Kim Bolan and Post Media News are suing me

What are they suing me for you ask? Three things. The first is defamation, the second is a copyright violation and the third is straight out of the Twilight Zone. Kim Bolan claims that whenever I say Tiocfaidh ár lá it means I want the UN gang to bring harm to her. (Greg: I have no idea of the merits of this lawsuit but I do know you are a chronic liar and a nitwit.)

That is mentally deranged. I'm part Irish and spent two years in Ireland. Tiocfaidh ár lá is a common phrase. It's also a song like A Nation Once again. On Saint Patrick's Day I often say Erin go bragh, Tiocfaidh ár lá which means Ireland forever, Our Day will come. It has nothing to do with Kim Bolan. OK so let's take a look at the context it was used in. (Greg: Kim Bolan vs. Dennis Watson who can't hold lawful employment I would say Dennis Watson is the mentally deranged one. I don't know Gaelic obviously so can't comment on the saying.)

They complained about a post I made entitled Kyle Gianis dead: Take a bow Kim Bolan and CFSEU. I took the post down but you can still see it temporarily on Google cache. (Greg: He offed himself one day after I posted about him the world is a better place without him https://groups.google.com/g/alt.true-crime/c/s7oa2f9zbrA/m/tOYpXibJBgAJ and https://groups.google.com/g/alt.true-crime/c/UitsERoW5-0/m/MUd1V9wbCQAJ and https://groups.google.com/g/van.general/c/OLylMmZqI_k/m/d0nQau37AAAJ and https://groups.google.com/g/van.general/c/OLylMmZqI_k/m/d0nQau37AAAJ Hope my post had a little to do with Kyle the career criminal suiciding himself.)

Kyle Gianis was a former UN member who to my knowledge had left the life and was trying to make a go of it hosting a fitness reality show on YouTube. I believe his departure from gang life was sincere and genuine. There were several recent attempts on his life. During that time Kim Bolan was defaming him. Kyle died during a confrontation with the ERT at a campsite. The CFSEU claimed it was a suicide. His fiancée said it was not a suicide. (Greg: The day he died he wounded 2 ppl including a young female. You leave a A level crime crew like U.N. you would be wise to stay off the Internet especially if you have robbed various ppl and not paid restitution. I am sure his fiance just wanted the $ and bling and is a chronic merde talking liar. Did the idiot film the law enforcement killing the man who filled her 3 holes of course not. https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/342108/Death-of-Pandosy-shooting-target-Kyle-Gianis-not-a-suicide-claims-fiancee Gianis a long time druggie had a drug freak out and killed himself no doubt his fiance was into drugs as gang woman often are.)

CBC reported that ERT approached Kyle using tear gas and a 40mm less-lethal round. A 4 CM "less lethal" round is a lot bigger than any normal bullet. They are lethal. When I said Tiocfaidh ár lá in that post I was referring to the plastic bullets that have killed so many kids in Belfast. It means one day justice will be achieved. If not in this life, at the judgement bar of God. It's a way of recording one's dissent. It has nothing to do with Kim Bolan. (Greg: Yes non-lethal rounds can kill or cause serious harm but look at Mr. Muscles Gianis steroids (?) and mental health problems high on drugs what were the law enforcement supposed to do he had cut a women's face wounded another campers were calling 911. The statement by Dennis Watson is false.)

In the statement of claim, Kim Bolan states that blog post had a picture of a soldier in it which she claims is a threat. It was not. I've reposted the picture above. It was a screen shot from the movie Gladiator where Maximus turns his back on the emperor in a sign of disrespect. It was my way of recording my dissent for how Kim Bolan and the CFSEU misrepresented Kyle Gianis.(Greg: Let the judge sort it out.)

This is not the first time Kim Bolan created a fake death plot. Above is a screen shot to a comment from Blaze on my blog that I never approved after he told the court he was hired by the UN to kill Kim Bolan. Blaze was never a member of the UN and the UN never wanted to kill Kim Bolan. Kim Bolan just isn't as important as she thinks. Blaze idolized Kim Bolan because she gave him a stage to perform on. He admitted to the court that he would regularly post false information on her blog to throw the police off. Blaze still spams my blog with bullsh*t. (Greg: Dennis Watson censors his blog way more than the Vancouver Sun censors their web site. )

Blaze was convicted of selling crystal meth for the Hells Angels. His firearm offense while under a firearm ban was because he went to the wrong door with a shotgun to collect a debt for the Hells Angels. He was never a member of the UN. To claim the UN hired him to kill Kim Bolan is a bold faced lie. Now Blaze and Jamie Bacon are both trashing the Hells Angels who fed them. They have no respect for the club because they have no self respect. They are worthless liars. IHIT and the CFSEU are both compromised for paying them to lie. (Greg : Hey hypocrite Dennis Watson you have been slagging H.A. for years sometimes for good reason but the Kelowna H.A. Pres won a lawsuit against you and you are a kook and a chronic liar. )

Now for the copyright claim. Kim Bolan complained about one picture I used from the Vancouver Sun of Damion Ryan. Despite the fact that she and the Vancouver Sun used pictures people sent me of David Giles. I never complained because I felt sharing pictures of gang members was in the public interest. It's interesting to note that is the only picture she complained about.

At first she lied and said it wasn't Damion Ryan when we all knew it was. Someone had sent it to me and recognized him. Then finally she admitted it was. She wanted me to take it down because he was wearing a filthy few patch. That means he had killed someone in Greece, likely Larry Amero's co accused. You don't have to have killed someone to become a member of the Hells Angels but you do have to have killed someone to get a filthy few patch. Kim Bolan didn't want everyone to know about that because Damion Ryan was cooperating with the police in BC despite the fact that he killed Mo and was running the drugs out of the DTES.

Damion Ryan gave up Naseem Mohamed, the person he hired to kill Anees Mohamed because that's the way the Wolf Pack roll. They have associates testify against the people they hired to commit murder so IHIT gets a conviction. In exchange, they get away with ordering the murder and are allowed to keep selling drugs. This is what we now face in E Division. (Greg: Now tell us about the Illuminati and how Bill Gates is controlling us all by secretly implanted microchips and only you are not implanted you are a kook. The Wolfpack are dangerous and deal cocaine so are the Hell's Angels a dangerous criminal org. The H.A. have been known to bribe and intimidate law enforcement and judges and elected officials.)

This is a copy of the cover to the lawsuit. It's not a letter, it's a lawsuit. They're supposed to send you a letter first. They did not. They claim they sent two to my old email address that got hacked but they aren't there. This is a copy of my response I filed the day after I was served the lawsuit. This is a copy of the counterclaim I filed and serrved yesterday. Let the good times roll. (Greg: Use a spell checker admitted fool I find it odd that you were not served at home since a Google search will show your address on Govt. Of BC documents and thy address I posted on Google Groups a number of times I was notified about a lawsuit by crook Gordon Sauck served by West Coast Delivery in January at my home. Why a big corp like Post Media could not home serve you is beyond me.)

So when the Fake News (Greg: More accurate than you.) says I haven't filed a response, they're lying. I've filed a response and a counterclaim. I totally respect the confidential nature of pretrial negotiations. However, court documents are, as Keith Fraser and Kim Bolan would say, part of the public record. (Greg: The Vancouver Sun has not mentioned this lawsuit.)

As I previously said, this will not end well for me. (Greg: Good you are a cretin.) This isn't my first rodeo. I know how this works. Large corporations have unlimited resources and keep appealing decisions until they win. Judges don't like having their decisions appealed. So the judge will take one look at me and one look at them and say yup, it's a no brainer. Money talks and the truth walks. (Greg: If you worked you might have money and you are a chronic, daily liar.)

Turns out BC does have anti SLAP legislation just like Ontario does. Everyone is accountable.

BTW my friend's a ninja. I rather lose a fight then miss the war yo.
=============================================================
Dennis Watson has never won a fight against a non-female. Ninja's what stupidity White fool your friends are out of shape or piano playing creepies.

https://gangstersout.blogspot.com/2022/09/kim-bolan-and-post-media-news-are-suing.html

Note the comments he allows are all anonymous Team Dweeb being sued again.

https://groups.google.com/g/van.general/c/vFTT2Jyk9Ag

[Greg Carr]

Yup.

Why did the CDN govt do nothing when the Chinese balloon with the clearly visible electronic gathering apparatus flew over vast parts of Canada they never even notified the CDN public. FAIL on the govt and the DND.

[Duncan Patton a Campbell on atlas.indx.ca]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 10:48:13 -0800 (PST), Greg Carr wrote:

> Plus lose a job with Canada Post what a moron and chronic liar as well.

You've never worked in your life: still living offa Granny's paint (Kinda
like Trump: same biz, different job).

[h hrh]

On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 1:52:02 PM UTC-5, Greg Carr wrote:
> turned out missiles that could take them out at that altitude.
> Yup.
>
> Why did the CDN govt do nothing when the Chinese balloon with the clearly visible electronic gathering apparatus flew over vast parts of Canada they never even notified the CDN public. FAIL on the govt and the DND.

You are the first gay man to float up to 60Kfeet in a Chinese 'Spy' balloon. Without oxygen!
Congrats are in order. I saw you bail out on the EXHALO parachute jump. You drifted back home to the Lower Mainland and made history.
On another note though, I don't see how you passed your Psyche Eval and became a cop. If I evaluated you, you wouldn't have got past me.

[Greg Carr]

On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 9:11:13 AM UTC-8, Duncan Patton a Campbell on atlas.indx.ca wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 10:48:13 -0800 (PST), Greg Carr wrote:
>
> > Plus lose a job with Canada Post what a moron and chronic liar as well.
> You've never worked in your life:

Ask DSL, Lordco that.

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[Greg Carr]

Lines of lies is all you have.

Reality sucks for druggies like you:

NATIONAL SECURITY
The U.S. military shot down an unidentified object over Canada's Yukon territory
Updated February 11, 20239:59 PM ET
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An F-22 fighter jet is pictured during a NATO exercise in Lask, Poland, in October. The same type of jet shot down an "unidentified object" over Canadian airspace on Saturday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said.
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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he ordered the takedown of an "unidentified object" flying over Canada's Yukon territory on Saturday.

The object was shot down by a U.S. military fighter jet from the U.S. and Canada's North American Aerospace Defense Command, Trudeau said.

"I spoke with President Biden this afternoon. Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage of the object," Trudeau said. "Thank you to NORAD for keeping the watch over North America."

The two leaders approved the takedown of the object "out of an abundance of caution and at the recommendation of their militaries," the White House said.

Since NORAD detected the object over Alaska on Friday evening, North American officials had closely monitored it as it crossed into Canadian airspace on Saturday, Pentagon Press Secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said in a statement. Following the call between President Biden and Trudeau, Biden authorized the F-22 to shoot down the object with a missile in Canadian territory, Ryder said.

Canada's defense minister, Anita Anand, said the downed object was cylindrical in shape and flying at about 40,000 feet. She said it was downed in central Yukon, about 100 miles from a U.S.-Canada border.

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The Federal Bureau of Investigation is working with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to identify the object.

Hours later, a "radar anomoly" prompted NORAD to investigate airspace over Havre, Mont. The Federal Aviation Administration said it briefly closed that airspace to support NORAD operations on Saturday evening. A Montana representative and a Montana senator both tweeted about an object in Montana airspace.

But NORAD later said no object was found. Fighter jets "did not identify any object to correlate to the radar hits," NORAD said in a statement Saturday evening, adding that it will continue to monitor the situation.

The incidents come a day after the U.S. military took down "a high altitude airborne object" off of the northern coast of Alaska, and a week after the military took down a Chinese spy balloon off the coast of South Carolina.

Little has been said publicly about the airborne objects
Officials have not provided any details that indicate whether the mysterious objects are related to the Chinese spy balloon.

Recovery crews are working to collect debris from the unknown airborne object sitting on sea ice near Deadhorse, Alaska, after it was taken down on Friday, the U.S. Northern Command said.

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The U.S. military and the FBI are continuing attempts to identify and retrieve the remnants of the Chinese spy balloon.

The U.S. shot down an object over Alaska. The government doesn't know yet what it was
NATIONAL SECURITY

[Duncan Patton a Campbell on atlas.indx.ca]

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 19:32:33 -0800 (PST), Greg Carr wrote:

> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 9:11:13 AM UTC-8, Duncan Patton a
> Campbell on atlas.indx.ca wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 10:48:13 -0800 (PST), Greg Carr wrote:
>>
>> > Plus lose a job with Canada Post what a moron and chronic liar as
>> > well.
>> You've never worked in your life:
>
> Ask DSL, Lordco that.

That's why you sit on their BOD, aye?
I wouldna' hire you to clean a shithouse.

Dhu

[Greg Carr]

You and your son are shite the idea you could pay for an employee is laughable.

[Duncan Patton a Campbell on atlas.indx.ca]

Go back to your POMEYLAND, catamite.

[Greg Carr]

Born in Vancouver, BC.

[Duncan Patton a Campbell on atlas.indx.ca]

Which thinks it's Northern California, no Canada. So fine. Go south Pinko.

Dhu

[Duncan Patton a Campbell on atlas.indx.ca]

I've also considered the possibility that this was a "demo" for Russia's
benefit: "How 2 Oppose the USian MIC on a Shoestring" because it only
cost the USofA about a half a million bux to shoot down a $12 balloon:

https://jacobin.com/2023/02/china-spy-balloon-biden-weapons-panic

[Greg Carr]

You consider the possibility of work or volunteering?

[h hrh]

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 1:06:25 PM UTC-5, Duncan Patton a Campbell on atlas.indx.ca wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 02:17:22 -0000 (UTC), Duncan Patton a Campbell on
> atlas.indx.ca wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 17:00:33 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >> On 2023-02-07 2:22 p.m., h hrh wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 1:54:44 PM UTC-5, jdyoung wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:16:47 AM UTC-5, behi...@gmail.com
> >>
> >>>>> According to Washington and the whore media
> >>>> Ha! That's all I need to read to watch my BS meter get pegged.
> >>>> Conspiracy loons are a laugh.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> What are you going on about? The official conspiracy theory that this
> >>> balloon was spying, or that it was a hoax and it wasn't spying.
> >>> If you think the balloon was spying, then educate yourself. The
> >>> Chinese don't need a spying balloon. They have something called
> >>> satellites. Many of them. They have thousands of Chinese
> >>> people/students in the US. Some are spies. They don't need no
> >>> flippin' balloons.
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe is was just a test of their air defense system. They wanted to see
> >> what they could get away with, how much the Americans would tolerate
> >> and if they could knock it down at that altitude. Remember back in the
> >> 1960s when the US was spying on the Soviet Union with U2s that flew so
> >> high the Russians wouldn't be able to shoot them done? Then the Russians
> >> turned out missiles that could take them out at that altitude.
> >

A 140 million fighter aircraft shooting a400K missle. A big time fuck up that is.

[Duncan Patton a Campbell on atlas.indx.ca]

Except when going to school, I have supported myself by working since I was 16.
I've dug ditches and worked for Lockheed Missile and Space as a Systems Engineer
designing civil aviation control systems. I've accomplished some other
interesting things for the World, that are really not your concern because
you do no engage in critical thought.

What have you done in the world for its people?