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Dhu on Gate

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Jun 4, 2013, 11:52:07 PM6/4/13
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I was reading an article
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22763510#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa)
which mentions, in sidebox, that the rate of abortion in west Yurp, where it is lawful, is 12 per 1000,
and in Latin America, where it is largely illegal, is over thirty per thousand.

Where abortion is lawful and unconstrained women are much less likely to panic and make hasty decisions.
... seems reasonable to me.

Dhu

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Ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco.

David Johnston

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Jun 5, 2013, 12:20:33 AM6/5/13
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I'd say the variable might be the availability and acceptability of
actual birth control.

Dhu on Gate

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Jun 5, 2013, 12:33:48 AM6/5/13
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Misnomer. You are talking about conception control, which is quite
widespread in LA. Abortion is actual birth control.

David Johnston

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Jun 5, 2013, 1:16:50 AM6/5/13
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"Quite widespread" doesn't mean anything. Is it more or less available
than it is in Western Europe?

Dhu on Gate

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Jun 5, 2013, 1:47:39 AM6/5/13
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Less, but not by 2/3. What I said stands: legitimate and open access to
abortion reduces it's misuse. Women able to discuss their options are less
likely to take radical action.

Chom Noamsky

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Jun 5, 2013, 12:24:16 PM6/5/13
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Soviet-era Eastern Europe had high rates of abortion, and that's with
open, anywhere, anytime access. Good evidence that availability does
not lower rates. The pill and condoms were next to non-existent, which
explains why the rates were so high.

Dhu on Gate

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Jun 5, 2013, 1:17:32 PM6/5/13
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It was treated socially like a state secret: never discussed as a legitimate
family planning option and as you point out, there were no options to discuss.

Dhu

> not lower rates. The pill and condoms were next to non-existent, which
> explains why the rates were so high.





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