>It's regrettable, the planes hit the WTC too early and the building wasn't
>full of people yet.
>
>
>
>Americans deserved 911 because they are responsible for the murder of innocents
>by the hundreds of thousands. Their cowardly leadership and murderous rapist
>military kill children and other innocent civlians.
>
>
>
>Why not kill Americans? They started it, they deserve it.
>
>
>
>Americans are sub human shit. The real terrorists wear the stars and stripes.
> The real terrorists deserve the same as they dish out. The real terrorists
>just can't take it. Americans are weak willed obese pigs.
>
Do you work at CU or what?
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so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
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> Hahaha..... Could this be a more obvious troll? So what branch of
government
> do you work for?
Former Kerry campaign worker.
Let us know how it goes.
> Americans deserved 911 because they are responsible for the murder of
innocents
> by the hundreds of thousands. Their cowardly leadership and
murderous rapist
> military kill children and other innocent civlians.
> Why not kill Americans? They started it, they deserve it.
> Americans are sub human shit. The real terrorists wear the stars and
stripes.
> The real terrorists deserve the same as they dish out. The real
terrorists
> just can't take it. Americans are weak willed obese pigs.
=====================================
WOW ! Tough talk !
9-11 was a sad day for America and no doubt we are headed for sader
days and worse results from similar outsiders.
"Why not kill Americans? They started it, they deserve it."
This seems to be the popular theme among millions of people around the
world these days, even from nations that have previously praised
America for its
hospitality and its genuine world leadership toward international peace
and good will efforts. This is not so any longer and may never be true
again.
"Why not kill Americans?
Those people who were in the towers on 9-11 should not have been the
targets of terrorists. The hatred for America resulted in hitting the
wrong people and the wrong building. If anyone in America needed to be
punished, it should have been the people who truly are responsible for
the atrocities committed against innocent people as a regular habit
since 1792. The politicians-the corporate surrogates-the elected
emmissaries of evil-the parasitic congressmen and women-and especially
the United States Senate, are the ones who deserve to be punished -at
least by being called before an international war crimes court or forum
of justice.Politics attracts people who are skilled potential
terrorists and liars even before they decide to become social whores
that they are.
If there is anything lower than a politician, it would have to be the
the floor of the Dead Sea at its lowest point.
[The lowest point on land on earth is at the Dead Sea, on the border
of Jordan and Israel.]
RE IRAQ:
America's leaders, after declaring the Cold War over, needed a new
national
adversary. Why? First, because throughout history people have seemed to
need an
enemy. And second, because at least some American interest
groups-possibly
including the federal government itself-benefit from the existence of a
national enemy and fighting profitable wars. Since " the 18th of April
in 75"
America has either been at war or trying to start one. Why not one in
the
Middle East ? Lots of oil and Israel needs us to defend their
occupation of
Palestine.
SEE
'Wolfowitz Cabal' Is An Enemy Within US - This article appears in the
Oct. 26,
2001 issue of Executive Intelligence Review. `Wolfowitz Cabal' Is an
Enemy
Within US. by Michele Steinberg On Oct. ...
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2841wolfowitz.html
American capitalism, based as it is on exploitation of the poor, with
its
fundamental motivation in personal greed, simply cannot survive without
force -
without a strong military international police force.
Making a Killing - The Center for Public Integrity - ... subject in
ICIJ's
11-part series, "Making a Killing: The Business of War.". ... Harmful
Error.
Investigating America's Local Prosecutors. Silent Partners. Learn ...
http://www.bop2004.org/bow/
In short, warfare is organized murder, although heavy layers of
ideology,
deception and other tricks have tried raising violence and murder to
noble
levels. Humanity's violent ways are directly related to how humanity
expanded its range across the planet, leaving its fruit-eating home in
the
tropical forests millions of years ago. The weaponry used to become
super-predators came in handy to prey upon fellow humans. Humanity's
carnivorous ways are directly related to its murderous ways.
Soldiers are nearly always young men whose testosterone overrides their
brains
and hearts, and societies manipulate their vulnerable condition to turn
them
into murderers, but murderers for the right team. Probably no war in
world
history was really fought for the publicly stated reasons, unless
somebody was
honest enough to state that it was simply murder for gain. Although
"defensive" violence might seem "justified," it is always the
least
enlightened response to any "threat," and virtually every murderer
plays
mind games to transform the crime into no crime at all, but something
self-righteously justified.
The Business of War - ... The Business of War. ... I thought that
maybe young
American men would understand if they saw it. ... the thrust of the
movie was
that those men were making a noble ...
http://home1.gte.net/res0k62m/war.htm
"Now, more than ever, each of us is forced to make a conscious choice
whether
to support the system of minority comfort and privilege with all its
security
apparatus and repression, or whether to struggle for real equality of
opportunity and fair distribution of benefits for all of society, in
the
domestic as well as the international order. It's harder now not to
realize
that there are two sides, harder not to understand each, and harder not
to
recognize that like it or not we contribute day in and day out either
to the
one side or to the other."
--- Philip Agee, CIA
Di
Why Iraq? It was Saddam's turn in the barrel, so we set him up and he
went for
the bait.
From: Iraq THE CIA's GREATES HITS
by Mark Zapezauer
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA%20Hits/CIA_GreatestHits.html
The whole dispute started because Kuwait was slant-drilling. Using
equipment
bought from National Security Council chief Brent Scowcroft's old
company,
Kuwait was pumping out some $14-billion worth of oil from underneath
Iraqi
territory. Even the territory they were drilling from had originally
been
Iraq's. Slant-drilling is enough to get you shot in Texas, and it's
certainly
enough to start a war in the Mideast.
Even so, this dispute could have been negotiated. But it's hard to
avoid a war
when what you're actually doing is trying to provoke a war. Also,
people seem
to need justifications for violence, so all military-oriented societies
have
huge cultural engines that labor to create seemingly noble rationales.
"But what counter-insurgency really comes down to is the protection of
the
capitalists back in America, their property and their privileges. US
national
security, as preached by US leaders, is the security of the capitalist
class in
the US, not the security of the rest of the people."
----
Philip Agee,
CIA Diary
The most famous example of that is the meeting between Saddam and the
US
Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, five days before Iraq invaded
Kuwait. As CIA
satellite photos showed an Iraqi invasion force massing on the Kuwaiti
border,
Glaspie told Hussein that "the US takes no position" on Iraq's dispute
with
Kuwait.
A few days later, during last-minute negotiations, Kuwait's foreign
minister
said: "We are not going to respond to [Iraq]....If they don't like it,
let them
occupy our territory....We are going to bring in the Americans." The US
reportedly encouraged Kuwait's attitude.
Pitting the two countries against each other was nothing new. Back in
1989, CIA
Director William Webster advised Kuwait's security chief to "take
advantage of
the deteriorating economic situation in Iraq to put pressure on Iraq.''
At the
same time, a CIA-linked think tank was advising Saddam to put pressure
on the
Kuwaitis.
A month earlier, the Bush administration issued a secret directive that
called
for greater economic cooperation with Iraq. This ultimately resulted in
billions of dollars of illegal arms sales to Saddam.
The Gulf War further destabilized the region and made Kuwait more
dependent on
us. US oil companies can now exert more control over oil prices (and
thus boost
their profits). The US military got an excuse to build more bases in
the region
(which Saudi Arabia, for one, didn't want) and the war also helped
justify the
"need" to continue exorbitant levels of military spending. Finally, it
sent a
message to Third World leaders about what they could expect if they
dared to
step out of line.
Some history:
What atrocities that other nations commit is no excuse for Americans
to attempt to top them in the unnecessary killing of innocents.
"We don't do body counts."
___ General Tommy Franks
"The use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women
and children, revolts my soul."
- President Herbert Hoover
(Search)
Atomic Holocaust of the People of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - -
President Herbert Hoover. American Atomic-Holocaust of the People of
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, August 1945. Photo by Yosuke Yamahata. ...
American State Terrorism - Site Map - ... Apocalypse 1945: the
Destruction of Dresden. 7. American Atomic-Holocaust of the People of
Hiroshima & Nagasaki
August, 1945: The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb ...
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/
Thenausea.com - ... and Texas turning nonmilitary Dresden into a
holocaust . . . ... who concludes, in "Understanding the Atomic Bomb,"
p ...
In 1945,
American leaders were not seeking to ...
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/documents/hiroshima.html
(Search)
The Highway of Death - 'The Highway of Death' in Iraq - a testament to
the evil sadism of the American military machine. ... officer. The
Highway
of Death. Photo ...
International War Crimes Tribunal - ... Incinerated body of an Iraqi
soldier on the "Highway of Death," a name the press has given to the
road from
Mutlaa, Kuwait, to Basra, Iraq. ...
http://deoxy.org/wc/warcrime.htm
"We think the price was worth it."
___ Madeleine Albright
Massacres of the Second World War - ... ATROCITIES IN SICILY (1943)
Many massacres of prisoners of war were committed by the American 45th
(Thunderbird) Division during the invasion of Sicily in 1943 ...
http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/massacres.html
The horror of the Dresden bombing is that it was pointless since the
Germans had already notified the Allies of their desire to surrender.
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1136109/posts
Fran Schor: Denying Atrocities, From Vietnam to Fallujah - ...
August
2, 2004.
The recent controversy surrounding the "Swift Boat Veterans" ad
challenging John Kerry's Vietnam record and his later statements as a
leader of
Vietnam Veterans against the War (VVAW) have fallen into predictable
partisan
perspectives. Republicans and their media attack machine still insist
that Kerry's medals are suspect and his VVAW activities were
treasonous.
Kerry and the Democrats, in turn, have found further documentary
evidence and
eyewitness accounts to support his version of the Vietnam incidents. As
far as
Kerry's 1971 testimony about US atrocities in Vietnam, Kerry has
reiterated
that he was just recounting reports from the Winter Soldier
Investigations. In
addition, he tried earlier to deflect criticism of his VVAW positions
by
claiming that some of his statements were overzealous and part of the
heated rhetoric of the times. In effect, the Bush Administration and
Republicans have tried to deny that atrocities took place while Kerry
and the Democrats have tried to minimize or marginalize them.
For those who have studied the historical record of the US prosecution
of the war in Southeast Asia, neither the Republicans nor Democrats
have
confronted the full measure of those atrocities and what their legacy
is,
especially in the war on Iraq. While most studies of the war in
Southeast
Asia acknowledge that 4 times the tonnage of bombs was dropped on
Vietnam,
Cambodia, and Laos than that used by the US in all theaters of
operation
during World War II, only a few, such as James William Gibson's The
Perfect
War: Technowar in Vietnam, analyze the full extent of such bombing. Not
only
were thousands of villages in Vietnam totally destroyed, but massive
civilian
deaths, numbering close to 3 million, resulted in large part from such
indiscriminate bombing. Integral to the bombing strategy was the use
of
weapons that violated international law, such as napalm and
antipersonnel
fragmentation bombs. As a result of establishing free fire zones where
anything
and everything could be attacked, including hospitals, US military
operations led to the deliberate murder of mostly civilians......
Of course, it is not only reactionary elements in US society who try to
use the flag as a cover to the brutal impact of imperial policy,
whether in
Vietnam or Iraq. The deeply embedded belief that the US is on a
providential
mission is not new to George W. Bush and his crackpot neocon policy
makers. The
liberal Madeline Albright insisted that the US was the "indispensable"
nation.
This allowed her and the Clinton Administration to rationalize the
deaths of
hundreds of thousands of Iraqis from the sanctions during the 1990's.
Until there is a full recounting of the loss of lives from such
imperial
policies and a commitment by a mobilized and outraged population to end
the pursuit of a US empire, there will be an ugly persistence of the
denial or minimization of atrocities.
Cont'd.
Fran Schor: Denying Atrocities, From Vietnam to Fallujah - ...
August
2, 2004.
Robert Jensen Kerry's Hypocrisy on the Vietnam War. ... Cockburn /
St.
Clair
Hail, the Conquering War Criminal: What Kerry Really Did in Vietnam.
...
http://www.counterpunch.org/schor08242004.html
Fran Shor teaches at Wayne State University and is an activist with
various peace and justice organizations. He can be reached at:
aa2...@wayne.edu
toledoblade.com - ... Home » Tiger Force ». Massacre ... Approaching
quickly in between were the soldiers - an elite US Army unit known as
Tiger
Force.
October ...
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=SRTIGERFORCE
Welcome To Tiger Force
Tiger Force Recon - These pages are intended to honor and memorialize
the men of 1/327 Infantry of the 101st Airborne Division, especially
the men of
Tiger Force Recon, from any ... Swift Boat supporters:
http://www.tigerforcerecon.com/
Here we go again:
The Unseen Gulf War by Peter Turnley - The Digital Journalist - ...
Death".
During the night of the 25th of February and the day of the 26th of
February, 1991, Allied aircraft strafed and bombed a stretch of the
Jahra
Highway. ...
http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0212/pt04.html
The UNSEEN Gulf War
http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0212/pt_intro.html
Pictures Bush Doesn't Want You To See:
http://www.einswine.com/atrocities/iraq?page1
The final result:
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/index.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1201809,00.html
The Memory Hole > Photos of Military Coffins (Battlefield and ... -
... I specified Dover because they process the remains of most, if not
all,
US military personnel ... If you want to print or broadcast any of
them, just
let
me know ...
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/
BringThemHomeNow.org - ... FAQ Frequently asked questions about the
Bring Them Home Now! campaign .... [more]. FRIENDS, PLEASE HELP BTHN!
This is
the first time the Bring Them Home Now! ...
http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
CIA greatest hits page - from the book. The CIAs Greatest Hits. by
Mark
Zepezauer. Odonian Press. In order to survive, nations need strong
intelligence
services. ...
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA%20Hits/CIA_GreatestHits.html
BACKGROUND Infos ! - ... rule' - Noam Chomsky; "What We Say Goes" -
The Middle
East in the New World Order; Iraq - CIAs Greatest Hits; Iraq: New
Labour fails
...
http://www.betterworldlinks.org/book60.htm
As Thomas Paine wrote in "The Rights of Man," governments do not raise
taxes to
fight wars, they fight wars to raise taxes.
War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily
the most profitable, surely the most vicious.
~General Smedley Butler
Imperialism is an institution under which one nation asserts the right
to seize the land or at least to control the government or resources of
another people.
~John T. Flynn
The great error of nearly all studies of war... has been to consider
war as an episode in foreign policies, when it is an act of interior
politics...
~Simone Weil
Let us prey:
Bluerhymer-Proud to be called a liberal.
---------------------------------------
Even though you're anonymous here, you must be a tenured professor.
On 13 Mar 2005 04:00:50 -0000
John Doe <joh...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> It's regrettable, the planes hit the WTC too early and the building wasn't
> full of people yet.
>
>
>
> Americans deserved 911 because they are responsible for the murder of innocents
> by the hundreds of thousands. Their cowardly leadership and murderous rapist
> military kill children and other innocent civlians.
>
>
>
> Why not kill Americans? They started it, they deserve it.
>
>
It's very arguable who started what. Would you hear the dead speak?
They will, if you ask.
>
> Americans are sub human shit. The real terrorists wear the stars and stripes.
> The real terrorists deserve the same as they dish out. The real terrorists
> just can't take it. Americans are weak willed obese pigs.
So were the Romans. It's what made them collectively unbeatable: you can't beat
zebra mussels or rats, either, without screwing the ecology beyond survivability.
Dhu
--
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All persons named herein are purely fictional victims
of the Canidian Bagle Breeder's Association.
Save the Bagle!
Sun Ðhu
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John Doe wrote:
> It's regrettable, the planes hit the WTC too early and the building
wasn't
> full of people yet.
> Americans deserved 911 because they are responsible for the murder of
innocents
> by the hundreds of thousands. Their cowardly leadership and
murderous rapist
> military kill children and other innocent civlians.
> Why not kill Americans? They started it, they deserve it.
> Americans are sub human shit. The real terrorists wear the stars and
stripes.
> The real terrorists deserve the same as they dish out. The real
terrorists
> just can't take it. Americans are weak willed obese pigs.
=====================================
> WOW ! Tough talk !
Not coming from the FBI.....
>9-11 was a sad day for America and no doubt we are headed for sader
>days and worse results from similar outsiders.
"Outsiders" ????
You must be one of the last remaining people on the planet that doesn't know
that Al-CIAda was a CIA creation.
Osama bin Laden took his direction and money from the CIA for ten years.
During this time, approximately $5 billion was funneled to his organization
through black op budgets into CIA operation known as Maktab al-Khidamar-the
MAK. It is clear, as a MAK mercenary army leader, bin Laden's fortune vastly
increased during that time. It is said that, "Once in the CIA, always in the
CIA." Could this be one of the intelligence organizations about which Milt
Bearden was speaking?
Osama bin Laden and his band of "Terrorists" could not have pulled off the
"sophisticated" operation of four simultaneous air hijackings, and precision
directed attacks, without the support of one or more "intelligence
organizations." This was the expert testimony provided by past CIA
Afghanistan operations director and bin Laden's American intelligence
aficionado, Milt Bearden, interviewed by Dan Rather on September 12, 2001.
In fact, when pressed by Dan Rather to endorse the theory of bin Laden's
culpability, Mr. Bearden stated, "if they didn't have an Osama bin Laden,
they would invent one."
And as far as the the so-called hunt for al-CIAda???
"American warplanes have had al-Qaeda and Taleban leaders in their sights as
many as ten times over the past six weeks, but have been unable to attack
because they did not receive permission quickly enough, US Air Force
officials complained yesterday..."
Pilots had leaders of al-Qaeda 'in their gunsights'
London Times, 19 November 2001
"Mullah Haji Abdul Samat Khaksar, the No 2 Taliban official in U.S. custody,
has been waiting months for the CIA to talk to him. The former Taliban
deputy interior minister says he has valuable information for the U.S. - and
may be able to help locate former Taliban leader Mullah Omar.... but no
senior intelligence official has come for a full interview. The CIA will not
comment... he says he has sent five letters to the US embassy in Kabul
offering to pass on information about al-Qaeda hideouts in Afghanistan... "
'The Taliban Guy the CIA Won't Question'
Time Magazine, 25 February 2002, European print edition, p21
"Thousands of American troops scouring Afghanistan for Mullah Omar have been
looking for the wrong man, according to an Afghan villager who claims that
it is his face on the CIA's wanted poster and not that of the fugitive
Taliban leader. Maulvi Hafizullah, a former protocol officer for the
Taliban, has been hiding in fear for his life in a remote part of southern
Afghanistan since his photograph appeared as Omar on a CIA leaflet...
Hafizullah has two eyes while Omar has only one, having been half-blinded in
a Soviet rocket attack in 1986...."
'I'm not Mullah Omar' says the man on CIA wanted poster
Daily Telegraph, 13 October 2002
"U.S. Special Forces soldiers said that in late July, a Green Beret A-Team,
backed by about 20 local Afghan fighters, apprehended Mullah Akhter Mohammed
Osmani as he left his compound at daybreak in a town west of Kandahar....
Osmani, among the top six most-wanted Taliban, was flown to a detention
center at Bagram air base, north of Kabul, for interrogation, the Special
Forces soldiers said. He was one of the Taliban's top generals, leading
thousands of troops as coalition forces ousted the hard-line regime. But,
according to these soldiers, Task Force 180 - the overall command in
Afghanistan - released Osmani a few weeks later..... A spokesman for U.S.
Central Command, which runs operations in Afghanistan, declined to comment
on questions submitted by The Times."
Soldiers say U.S. let Taliban general go
Washington Times, 18 December 2002
"Some Special Forces soldiers have expressed frustration with Task Force 180
for turning down their written concept of operations, or 'conops,' to attack
suspected Taliban. The soldiers said in interviews that they gained
information on several occasions last summer on the whereabouts of Mullah
Omar. But, they said, commanders turned down the missions..."
Soldiers say U.S. let Taliban general go
Washington Times, 18 December 2002
"Why has the CIA ignored for 11 consecutive months the only anti-al Qaida
Pakistani tribal leader who had tracked bin Laden's movements ever since his
escape from Tora Bora last Dec. 9? In late November 2001, this tribal chief
contacted us via a mutual friend. He said his people knew where bin Laden
was in the Tora Bora mountain range.... [Later] Bin Laden, he informed us,
had indeed come out through the Tirah Valley on horseback two days before we
got there, on Dec 9..... The U.S. intelligence community has been aware of
the tribal leader's name and reputation, but did not contact him. .....
Members of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board who were
asked by us to ask the question [why this man was not contacted] have simply
been told, 'We'll get back to you on that.' They're still waiting."
Conspiracy of silence?
United Press International, 18 November 2002
http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/WATWhatWAT.htm
You seem to have not suffered from any education. so how big a flag do
you have tattooed on your fat white liberal ass?