US 'Bomblets' SAME COLOR as US food handouts - UNICEF
Michael Moore For President
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News Note
2 April 2003: Latest on Iraq Relief Efforts
· Concern that food ration and bomblet 'BLU 97' are identical in colour
· Water supplies slowly getting through in South
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Briefing by Geoff Keele, UNICEF Communication Officer, IRAQ
AMMAN, 2 April 2003 - UNICEF is deeply concerned by reports about the Humanitarian Daily Rations, or HDR, being handed out by
coalition forces in southern Iraq. The rations are covered in bright yellow plastic wrap which is identical to the colour of a
bomblet currently being air-dropped called BLU 97.
These are the same rations that were air dropped in Afghanistan, where the military eventually changed the wrapping to blue. This
was done after the UN highlighted the dangers of presenting food in the same colour as ordinance. These rations are not being air
dropped. Because of their identical colouring, however, children can confuse the ration and unexploded ordinance.
Confusing unexploded ordinance with food places children at huge risk of injury or death. UNICEF urges coalition forces to urgently
change the colour of these rations.
Clean water vital as war and heat take their toll on children
In what UNICEF hopes is an improving pattern of access in Southern Iraq, a convoy of 5 trucks is on its way to the town of Safwan -
with clean water and emergency health kits. Safwan is south of Basra, and UNICEF estimates that thousands of people in the town are
in need of clean water.
The trucks are each carrying 35 thousand litres of water and will also deliver emergency health kits, each of which meets the needs
of 1,000 people for 3 months.
As tankers enter towns, UNICEF is learning of new needs. Drivers who reached Zubair yesterday told UNICEF of about 20,000 people in
nearby Um Kail, who have not yet been reached by any aid. The drivers will return to Um Kail tomorrow with water and emergency
health kits.
Delivering to Zubair on April 2, a health worker said that the heat was already taking a toll on children and that there are more
and more cases of children suffering from diarrhoea. This is a seasonal phenomenon in Iraq, but in a country where the average child
suffers as many as 15 bouts of severe diarrhoea a year, the effects of current conditions and contaminated water is crippling.
Access to clean water is now vital, and very simply, life saving.
The Zubair local health worker also said that the hospital was running out of basic supplies, and gave the drivers a list of more
than 50 medicines that it is in need of.
Clearly, with every new truck and every new delivery that makes it to those in need, UNICEF is taking heart. But UNICEF also
realises that it is only meeting the needs of a fraction of those in need of assistance and looks forward to reaching more children,
in more places, more quickly.
For further information:
Alfred Ironside, UNICEF New York, 1 212 326 7261, Cell 1 917 969 6462
Gordon Weiss, UNICEF New York, 1 212 326 7426
Jo Bailey, UNICEF New York, 1 212 326 7412
For interviews in the region, write or call directly to the UNICEF NewsDesk in Amman:
(962-79) 50422058
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Daffodils are yellow too, some cars are yellow, then you have the
French, and they are really yellow. Shape is the key idiot!
Ian St. John
"sdgreen" <sd.g...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Wow! Well thank you. Hopefully all the Iraqi children watching over the
internet on their Personal Computers will now know that shape is a factor.
You have saved millions by your sudden and insightful rant.
What an asshole!!!
sdgreen
"Ian St. John" <ist...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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So I take it anything that is yellow is food to you then!
Reality becomes an object lesson very quickly.
snout.55
>
>Daffodils are yellow too, some cars are yellow, then you have the
>French, and they are really yellow. Shape is the key idiot!
>
not when partly concealed in grass/undergrowth et cetera, that's *why*
bright yellow is used, "idiot"
>
non denial of illegal use of cluster bombs in populated areas
noteworthy
Joe
> Daffodils are yellow too, some cars are yellow, then you have the
> French, and they are really yellow. Shape is the key idiot!
A small child will notice the colour long before the shape. Blowing the arm
off of a child is a tough way for him/her to learn that shape matters.
David Brabant
> A small child will notice the colour long before the shape. Blowing the arm
> off of a child is a tough way for him/her to learn that shape matters.
Yeah, but they are Iraqi children. For him, it's not like
if they were human or something.
--
David
Rohan
Yeah, like once.
In nature yellow is the colour of danger. Generally humans have used
orange as a colour of emergency or rescue. Go out to your garden shed
and take a look at those old life jackets.
Rohan
Rohan
Yes truly. Someone's forces will be taken to court in a few years time
for this.. Are former Presidents able to be taken to court in the
United States?
Those bombs are illegal. Australia doesn't use them.
Rohan
Dave'n'Alias
"David Brabant" <david....@qwanful.design.no.invalid> wrote in message
news:b6h3hj$n0$1...@news.mch.sbs.de...
An Iraqi child is far more likely to be killed by an Iraqi layed mine.
> --
> David
>
>
David Brabant
> An Iraqi child is far more likely to be killed by an Iraqi layed mine.
Oh yeah? How many of the 700 civilians (or so) Iraqi
civilians and the 6000 (or so) civilians wounded during
the last 15 days, among them a majority of women and
children, owe their injuries to Iraqi mines, you think?
--
David
snout.55
how do you prosecute a chimpanzee ? it would successfully claim
incompetence ? Perle, Dumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Kissinger, the goon who
would be president, et alia are more promsiing targets, as
anti-American fascist junta conspirators also tarred with the "9-11"
Brush
snout.55
that ID doesn't "think" it's a Ministry of Truth earwig
Dave'n'Alias
"David Brabant" <david....@qwanful.design.no.invalid> wrote in message
> "Dave'n'Alias" <davenalias*nospam*@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
>
> > An Iraqi child is far more likely to be killed by an Iraqi layed mine.
>
> Oh yeah?
Yeah. Get over it.
How many of the 700 civilians (or so) Iraqi
> civilians and the 6000 (or so) civilians wounded during
> the last 15 days
Not due to cluster bombs. And not deliberately targeted.
, among them a majority of women and
> children,
Says who ?????? The Iraqi information minister ????
> owe their injuries to Iraqi mines, you think?
In the long term many more will be harmed by landmines than by cluster
bombs.
>
> --
> David
>
>
>
>
Dave'n'Alias
"snout.55" <snout.55@trough_of_human_blood> wrote in message
And your tendancy to fake posts and continuously change your ID (so as to
avoid killfiles) proves you have never had anything worthwhile to contribute
to this debate...
snout.55
<davenalias*nospam*@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>"David Brabant" <david....@qwanful.design.no.invalid> wrote in message
>news:b6h6t1$cpu$1...@news.mch.sbs.de...
>> "Dave'n'Alias" <davenalias*nospam*@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
>>
>> > An Iraqi child is far more likely to be killed by an Iraqi layed mine.
>>
>> Oh yeah?
>
>Yeah. Get over it.
>
> How many of the 700 civilians (or so) Iraqi
>> civilians and the 6000 (or so) civilians wounded during
>> the last 15 days
>
>Not due to cluster bombs. And not deliberately targeted.
>
actually both in the central region (reported by many sources) and
undoubtedly in other places where it wasn't reported - unless of
course the unscrupluous perpetrators want to claim that by a freak
chance cameras and bombers just happened to be in the same place at
the same time
>
>, among them a majority of women and
>> children,
>
>Says who ?????? The Iraqi information minister ????
>
the BBC, CNN, et alia - not exaclty anti mercenary/fascist_junta
propagandists
>
>> owe their injuries to Iraqi mines, you think?
>
>In the long term many more will be harmed by landmines than by cluster
>bombs.
>
""Says who" the Chimp and the mad poodle ?
snout.55
actually that which is 'proved' , in support of other indicators, is
that it's a huge irritation to the Ministry of Truth - and the
Ministry of Truth doesn't "debate" it peddles lies via mindless
earwigs
Dave'n'Alias
"snout.55" <snout.55@trough_of_human_blood> wrote in message
> >Says who ?????? The Iraqi information minister ????
> >
> the BBC, CNN, et alia - not exaclty anti mercenary/fascist_junta
> propagandists
The reporters inside Baghdad are controlled by the Iraq regime...so they are
pushing anti-coalition propoganda- just as us-gb emedded reporters are
controlled too.
Right now. There is very little reliable information coming from anywhere.
> >
> >> owe their injuries to Iraqi mines, you think?
> >
> >In the long term many more will be harmed by landmines than by cluster
> >bombs.
> >
> ""Says who" the Chimp and the mad poodle ?
No, it just stands to reason. Only a very small number of bomblets actually
fail to explode and are dangerous - they are also brightly coloured to
enable easy detection, compare this number to 1000's of landmines which are
carefully hidden and totally indescriminate...
David Brabant
> compare this number to 1000's of landmines which are
> carefully hidden and totally indescriminate...
Would you be so kind to remember me which countries
refused to sign the treaty attempting to ban landmines?
--
David
snout.55
<davenalias*nospam*@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>"snout.55" <snout.55@trough_of_human_blood> wrote in message
>
>> >Says who ?????? The Iraqi information minister ????
>> >
>> the BBC, CNN, et alia - not exaclty anti mercenary/fascist_junta
>> propagandists
>
>The reporters inside Baghdad are controlled by the Iraq regime...
>
gosh , should we tell BBC and CNN not to use their reports ?
>
>so they are
>pushing anti-coalition propoganda- just as us-gb emedded reporters are
>controlled too.
>
>Right now. There is very little reliable information coming from anywhere.
>
>> >
>> >> owe their injuries to Iraqi mines, you think?
>> >
>> >In the long term many more will be harmed by landmines than by cluster
>> >bombs.
>> >
>> ""Says who" the Chimp and the mad poodle ?
>
>No, it just stands to reason. Only a very small number of bomblets actually
>fail to explode and are dangerous
>
irrelevant - the number of unexploded isn't what is intended to worry
those on the receiving end - it;s the mere fact that there are *some*
- it inflicts huge economic damage on the victim population and is
intended to
>
> - they are also brightly coloured to
>enable easy detection,
>
negative - *reliable* reports describe these ones as "grey"
>
>compare this number to 1000's of landmines which are
>carefully hidden and totally indescriminate...
>
in uninhabited desert areas well known to the local nomads
>
Dave'n'Alias
"David Brabant" <david....@qwanful.design.no.invalid> wrote in message
Do those countries regularly use landmines ?
Iraq does.
David Brabant
> Do those countries regularly use landmines ?
The one I have in mind seems to do so, yes.
But I have the feeling that you are avoiding
to answer the question. How strange.
--
David
MrMoor
who can't tell the difference between the two doesn't have much of a
future anyway!
Dave'n'Alias
"David Brabant" <david....@qwanful.design.no.invalid> wrote in message
> "Dave'n'Alias" <davenalias*nospam*@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
>
> > Do those countries regularly use landmines ?
>
> The one I have in mind seems to do so, yes.
Come on - spit it out !!
> But I have the feeling that you are avoiding
> to answer the question. How strange.
You tell me..
>
> --
> David
>
>
David Brabant
> Come on - spit it out !!
Let's see ... This one, maybe:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-12-10-landmines-usat_x.htm
--
David
Dave'n'Alias
"David Brabant" <david....@qwanful.design.no.invalid> wrote in message
Have they been used in Iraq ?
David Brabant
> Would you be so kind to remember me which countries
> refused to sign the treaty attempting to ban landmines?
The Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling,
Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Landmines and
on Their Destruction - The Mine Ban Treaty - entered into
force on March 1, 1999.
Over 137 countries have signed the Treaty including all of
the European Nato allies.
The United States, Russia, and China have not signed.
The United States has the fourth largest anti-personnel landmine
arsenal in the world, with a stockpiled of approximately
11.2 million AP mines.
--
David
Jeremiah Hamish
> > > Daffodils are yellow too, some cars are yellow, then you have
> the
> > > French, and they are really yellow. Shape is the key idiot!
> >
> > Wow! Well thank you. Hopefully all the Iraqi children watching
> over the
> > internet on their Personal Computers will now know that shape
> is a factor.
> > You have saved millions by your sudden and insightful rant.
> >
> > What an asshole!!!
> >
> ==============================
>
> So I take it anything that is yellow is food to you then!
No. But if I were Iraqi and had learned to assoicate food packets with the
yellow color, I would probably not hesitate to investigate a similarly
colored object. The facts are that the problem here has been common in many
such conflicts. The problem is one that there is no 'second chance' to learn
to avoid them. Those who learned the lesson are dead or dismembered.
> Reality becomes an object lesson very quickly.
It would be nice if you cold deal with reality once in a while.
Hartmann Schaffer
"sdgreen" <sd.g...@shaw.ca> writes:
>
> "Michael Moore For President" <vote...@michael-moore.org> wrote
> in message news:3e8b...@news.comindico.com.au...
>> http://www.unicef.org/newsline/2003/03bnapril2wus.htm
>>
> ========================
>
> French, and they are really yellow. Shape is the key idiot!
maybe, but it is telling about the quality of the forethought that
went into planning the help for the civilians that so shortly after
the afghani invasion where the same problem was reported the same
mistake is made again. iirc they did change the food package there
hs
--
Q. what has linux in common with a teepee?
A. no windows, no gates, apache inside
Hartmann Schaffer
depends on the circumstances. very recently similar problems happened
in afghanistan. the reports from there made it quite clear that the
either food packages or cluster bombs ended up in locations where they
were only partially visible, e.g. mostly hidden by bushes, rocks, etc.
did they forget to mention that the revised bombs and food packages
have built in smarts now that make them avoid such locations?
Hartmann Schaffer
"Dave'n'Alias" <davenalias*nospam*@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> ...
> No, it just stands to reason. Only a very small number of bomblets actually
> fail to explode and are dangerous - they are also brightly coloured to
> enable easy detection, compare this number to 1000's of landmines which are
> carefully hidden and totally indescriminate...
oh yeah. the cluster bombs have now smarts built in that they kill
only illegal enemy combattants. thanks for the education
rosignol
"David Brabant" <david....@qwanful.design.no.invalid> wrote:
Huh? Even the Iraqi government is only saying a few hundred civilians
have been injured... where did '6000' come from?
--
al Qaeda delenda est
rosignol
I doubt it. The US would have signed the landmine treaty if there had
been an exception allowing their use on the Korean Penninsula. They're
not needed anywhere else.
rosignol
ro...@pacific.net.sg (Rohan) wrote:
[zap]
> > non denial of illegal use of cluster bombs in populated areas
> > noteworthy
>
> Yes truly. Someone's forces will be taken to court in a few years time
> for this.. Are former Presidents able to be taken to court in the
> United States?
>
> Those bombs are illegal. Australia doesn't use them.
Illegal under what treaty?
Michael Moore For President
"sdgreen" <sd.g...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:A9Qia.615923$Yo4.46...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
>
> "Michael Moore For President" <vote...@michael-moore.org> wrote
> in message news:3e8b...@news.comindico.com.au...
> > http://www.unicef.org/newsline/2003/03bnapril2wus.htm
> >
> ========================
>
> Daffodils are yellow too, some cars are yellow, then you have the
> French, and they are really yellow. Shape is the key idiot!
>
Little Kids Don't Know & Could Be Maimed or Killed "
David Brabant
> Huh? Even the Iraqi government is only saying a few
> hundred civilians have been injured...
Civilians reported *killed* in Iraq by US-led military
action during 2003 (see the "methodology" section to
understand how bodies are counted):
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm
In French (but a translation button is availble at the
bottom of the page):
http://permanent.nouvelobs.com/etranger/20030404.OBS9087.html
The estimated number of wounded Iraqis is
currently between 4500 and 6000.
And, by the way, some other interesting readings:
http://www.casi.org.uk/
http://www.casi.org.uk/info/undocs/internal.html
http://www.casi.org.uk/info/undocs/war021210.html
--
David
rosignol
"David Brabant" <david....@qwanful.design.no.invalid> wrote:
> "rosignol" <rosi...@nwlink.com> wrote
>
> > Huh? Even the Iraqi government is only saying a few
> > hundred civilians have been injured...
>
> Civilians reported *killed* in Iraq by US-led military
> action during 2003 (see the "methodology" section to
> understand how bodies are counted):
> http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm
I am familiar with them. It is worth mentioning that as of yesterday,
their *minimum* number of dead civilians was *higher* than the number of
dead civilians claimed by the Iraqi government, and the Iraqi government
has no interest in minimizing the number of civilians reported dead or
injured- quite the contrary.
As far as their methodology is concerned, it is unscientific nonsense.
[zap]
David Brabant
> As far as their methodology is concerned, it is unscientific nonsense.
So, you say. I'm pretty sure that you do know
a lot about unscientific nonsense.
But you would prefer the RedCross, maybe?
http://truthout.org/docs_03/040603A.shtml
http://www.redcross.ca/article.asp?id=002705
--
David
rosignol
"Leave Saddam in power for the chiiiiiiiiiildren's sake!"
[puke]
rosignol
"David Brabant" <david....@qwanful.design.no.invalid> wrote:
> "rosignol" <rosi...@nwlink.com> wrote
>
> > As far as their methodology is concerned, it is unscientific nonsense.
>
> So, you say. I'm pretty sure that you do know
> a lot about unscientific nonsense.
>
> But you would prefer the RedCross, maybe?
> http://truthout.org/docs_03/040603A.shtml
...that article only discusses numbers of wounded civilians, not dead
civilians. The Iraq bodycount site claims to track _dead_ civilians.
> http://www.redcross.ca/article.asp?id=002705
....and that's a link to an index of daily entries. I'm not going to
rummage around the site looking for information to support *your*
position. You do get points for referring to a reputable source instead
of Indymedia or ArabNews.com, tho.
Rohan
Not sure which. But apparently Australia's signed one that prevents it
from using them.. It must be true, as it was in the media.. :)
Rohan
Austin Nichols
be removed from power WITHOUT dropping cluster bombs.
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Best regards,
A.N.
"I am a man of constant sorrow
I've seen trouble all my day."
Jeremiah Hamish
"Austin Nichols" <AustinW...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I know it is awfully hard to wrap your mind around it but YOU have no
fucking right to remove anyone from power. If the Iraqis want a new leader,
they can do it themselves.
Dave
an idiot
Dave
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Roedy Green
conclude the "mistake" was deliberate. Some sadistic bastard in the
Pentagon made sure kids would get their arms blown off.
This of course did absolutely nothing to topple Saddam. It just
helped some Pentagon pervert get his rocks off.
--
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Coaching, problem solving, contract programming for €30 euro per hour or fixed price.
See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html for links about the Iraq war.
none
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> This same mistake was made in Afghanistan. I therefore have to
> conclude the "mistake" was deliberate. Some sadistic bastard in the
> Pentagon made sure kids would get their arms blown off.
That's quite the conclusion. Hope you never sit on a jury :-).