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STATIONNEMENT PARCOMETRE VÉHICULE DU MDN

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CD

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Dec 29, 2003, 1:11:20 AM12/29/03
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Quelqu'un connaît la référence qui stipule que les véhicules du MDN (Staff
car, par exemple) sont exempt des frais de parcomètre... J'ai eu une
contravention la semaine dernière !!!

Carl


JF Langlais

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Dec 29, 2003, 2:28:43 PM12/29/03
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"CD" <cduc...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
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Carl, au mieux de ma connaissance, ce réglement n'existe pas. Il est
possible que certaines municipalités s'abstiennent de poser un billet sur
un véhicule du MDN si celui-ci est pourvu d'une affiche quelconque (comme
"Duty vehicle"), et s'il ne demeure pas stationné à la même place très
longtemps. Mais cela relèverait de la courtoisie, ou au mieux d'un "by-
law" municipal, certainement pas d'un réglement fédéral.

Désolé, mais je crois qu'il va te falloir payer ta contravention. Si tu
t'etais stationné dans un endroit public payant (parcomètre ou
stationnement à l'heure), tu aurais pu faire une réclamation à la salle
des raports pour les frais de stationnement d'un véhicule utilisé en
service commandé. Une telle réclamation ne couvrent cependant jamais les
frais de contraventions (excès de vitesse ou stationnement illégal, par
exemple).


JF Langlais
CPlC
CFJSR Kingston

Jason Quilliam

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Dec 29, 2003, 2:54:31 PM12/29/03
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Je pense qu'il est correct.

JTQ

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Doug

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Dec 29, 2003, 3:11:21 PM12/29/03
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"JF Langlais" <lang...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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Apologies for the English response, I read French better than I write it.

I have run into this twice. Once, while driving a duty vehicle with a
"Parking Exempt" board in the windshield I received a parking ticket in
Saskatoon outside the Customs office. I was in a legal parking spot, just
didn't plug the meter. The MSE dispatcher said just to drop the ticket at
city hall, did that, heard nothing more. Found that odd, as the parking
officers in Saskatoon at the time were CCoC...
The other time does not relate directly to parking, but rather to tolls.
With the introduction of Confederation Bridge we now drive to PEI for EOD
response. We have to pay the bridge toll when doing so. A few years ago
(97 or so) the AJAG was consulted and apparently there is a regulation that
exempts DND from paying tolls/fees/ferrys/etc when in the performance of
their duties. The final response we got from the AJAG was to pay the toll.
Presumably it wasn't worth the time or effort to challenge the company who
runs the bridge.
So, I agree with the previous poster, unless your base has a policy on
tickets (ie they will pay if a duty vehicle is ticketed) or agreement with
the municipality you will probably have to pay the ticket. Plug the meter
and claim it.

Doug


Neill McKay

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Dec 29, 2003, 9:03:47 PM12/29/03
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In article <JT%Hb.21496$IF6.9...@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
"Doug" <dlo...@gashnbnet.gash.ca> wrote:

> The other time does not relate directly to parking, but rather to tolls.
> With the introduction of Confederation Bridge we now drive to PEI for EOD
> response. We have to pay the bridge toll when doing so. A few years ago
> (97 or so) the AJAG was consulted and apparently there is a regulation that
> exempts DND from paying tolls/fees/ferrys/etc when in the performance of
> their duties. The final response we got from the AJAG was to pay the toll.
> Presumably it wasn't worth the time or effort to challenge the company who
> runs the bridge.

The National Defence Act contains a section to the effect that no-one
shall demand a toll from any vehicle used in military service. The
Harbour Bridge in Saint John and the Cobequid Pass in Nova Scotia will
cheerfully let you by, but at least one commissionnaire on the MacKay
Bridge in Halifax was pretty coarse in insisting on getting paid.

Neill McKay

CD

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Dec 29, 2003, 11:20:26 PM12/29/03
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Messieurs,
(Mesdames?)

Chers collègues, merci de votre attention et de vos commentaires. Les
commentaires dans la langue de William Shakespeare sont certes les bienvenus
et fort appréciés. Ne maîtrisant pas aussi bien Shakespeare que Molière à
l'écrit, vous m'excuserez de poursuivre dans ma langue maternelle !

Pour alimenter la discussion un peu... Que pensez-vous de cette
directive... j'ai trouvé cet article des Ordres permanents de l'USFC(O) en
effectuant quelques recherches sur Google
http://www.cfsuo.forces.gc.ca/csss/so/SOCH7_e.asp chapitre 7.01 para 9...
On fait alors référence aux articles 221
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/N-5/83904.html#rid-84029 et 262
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/N-5/84293.html de la Loi sur la Défense
nationale (NDA). Par contre, à la lecture de ces articles du NDA, rien ne
semble, à première vue, être en lien avec ce qu'a écrit l'USFC(O) dans ses
ordres.

Je demanderai sûrement l'avis de AJAG à mon retour de congé en janvier.

Carl

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JF Langlais

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Dec 30, 2003, 3:24:35 PM12/30/03
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"CD" <cduc...@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:n27Ib.4311$Vl6.1098004
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> http://www.cfsuo.forces.gc.ca/csss/so/SOCH7_e.asp

I stand corrected, LOL!!! There IS a federal regulation covering parking
meters and such!

Thank you very much for the time you took to get the research done and
posting the references here.

JF Langlais
MCpl
CFJSR

JF Langlais

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Dec 30, 2003, 3:34:16 PM12/30/03
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JF Langlais <lang...@cogeco.ca> wrote in
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Woops, I read too fast again. I wonder where they found their
references? You're right, the NDA articles refered to in the ADM (FinCS)
site aren't even remotely relevant...

/blush

JF Langlais
MCpl
CFJSR

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