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Bell DSL allows to run servers?

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00_DotNetWarrior

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Mar 11, 2006, 1:28:18 AM3/11/06
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I am a small business owner having a home office, I want an Internet
service which also allows me to run my own Web Server and Mail Server. It
seems like Bell Sympatico doesn't allow users to run servers (see links
below). However, I couldn't find any related information on Bell Business
Internet. Does that mean Bell Business Internet allows users to run
servers? can someone confirm? because Rogers Business Internet doesn't allow
to run servers in the old days (maybe they have changed??). Any ideas?

Bell Business Internet
http://www.bell.ca/shop/en_CA_ON/Sme.Sol.Internet.High.Speed.ALaCarte.page
http://www.businesscentre.bell.ca/termsandconditions

Bell Residential DSL (Sympatico)
http://service.sympatico.ca/index.cfm?method=content.view&category_id=257&content_id=921


JF Mezei

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Mar 11, 2006, 6:30:14 AM3/11/06
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00_DotNetWarrior wrote:
> Internet. Does that mean Bell Business Internet allows users to run
> servers?

There are some Bell services which do allow you to run your servers.
However, while you can have your domain name point to your Bell provided
IP, Bell will not make your IP point to your domain/host. Not only
that, but Bell's reverse lookups are dismal and not organised properly.

If you go to an outfit such as Teksavvy, they not only allow servers and
don't block ports, but can also assign the reverse DNS to point to your
host name. And you end up paying less.

If your telephone line is classified as residential, you pay 29.95 for
bas and $4.00 for the fixed IP. And for technical support, you talk to
experienced guys , not script reading drones.

Marc Bissonnette

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Mar 11, 2006, 10:27:21 AM3/11/06
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JF Mezei <jfmezei...@teksavvy.com> wrote in news:4412B4C5.E4CC9822
@teksavvy.com:

Indeed, running a small business from a SOHO would find greater benefit,
better support and better prices by going with a smaller ISP than Bell or
Rogers; They're simply much better geared towards the service. (I've heard
this a *lot* from people go with an alternate ISP for server-at-home needs)

(Shameless self-promote: http://www.CanadianISP.com will give you quite a
range of choices, too)

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Marc Bissonnette
Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
Largest ISP comparison site across Canada.

Some Guy

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Mar 11, 2006, 10:26:02 AM3/11/06
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00_DotNetWarrior wrote:

> I couldn't find any related information on Bell Business
> Does that mean Bell Business Internet allows users to run servers?

We have BIHS-Ultra (Bell Business Internet High Speed Ultra). It's a
6-meg service (if you're close enough to the local phone switch
building or RSLAM in your area). Regardless, you'll pay $65/month for
BIHS-ultra even if your connection only allows for much less speed.
You'll also pay $5/month for the modem rental (SpeedStream 6300, which
has built-in 6 or 8 port hub, NAT functionality, port-forwarding, DMZ,
auto-logon, etc).

With BIHS ultra, you get a static IP, and no port blocking. We have
HTTP and SMTP server running on our connection.

The problem with SMTP is that even though your machine can send e-mail
directly to the internet on port-25, there are many receiving servers
out there that will do a reverse-DNS (rDNS) on your IP address and it
will come back with something like
"Quebec-HSE-ppp123456.qc.sympatico.ca". You will get return e-mails
telling you that the destination server rejected the e-mail because of
the presence of "ppp" in the rDNS of your server's IP address.

That's really not a problem, because you can simply have your office
computers send their e-mail through bell/sympatico's SMTP server (for
out-bound e-mail). For incoming e-mail (to your domain) your server
will have no problem receiving mail (and your local machines would
simply point their in-bound pop mail server to the local IP address of
your server.

[side-question: which ISP's allow you to set the FQDN of your static
IP? And, how is it done? Web-portal? Tech support phone call?
Other? How often can you change it? Do they ask for proof that you
own the domain in question?]

Regular 3-meg BIHS is something like $30 or $40 / month, but the IP is
not static. There are ways to handle this using stuff like DynDNS,
which is ok if you're running servers for home or hobby, but it's
really more of a pain for business.

I would imagine for regular BIHS (also Sympatico HSE) that port-25 is
blocked. I'm not sure about port-80 inbound (does HSE block that? I
don't think I see port-80 requests in my routers logs).

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