Why don't Quebec license plates have registration stickers?
Some Guy
buffoon...
And I know that since 1992 or 93 that Quebec stopped issuing license
plate registration stickers, but I'm wondering how exactly do the cops
know if you've paid your annual registration fee for your license plate?
I see a few cars here in SW-Ontario with Quebec plates (and only a plate
on the back of the car - not the front) and there's no indication if the
plate is currently registered. A local franchise of a major rental car
agency here has some PT Cruisers with Quebec plates (they say they were
bought from a Quebec franchise who bought too many of them).
I'm wondering:
a) is it a common scam for people in Quebec to not pay to renew their
license plate registration, knowing that (I guess) the police have to
run the plate (yes?) to know if the plate is current?
b) are people using quebec plates here in ontario, even if they live in
ontario?
Warren Oates
> a) is it a common scam for people in Quebec to not pay to renew their
> license plate registration, knowing that (I guess) the police have to
> run the plate (yes?) to know if the plate is current?
>
In Quebec, your registration is renewed automatically, and you're sent
it (with an invoice) in the mail. If you don't pay in time, your number
goes out on a watch-list of some kind, and cops are pretty good at
keeping those kinds of numbers available and in their heads even, and
besides, most people pay on time. Some people still have old plates with
old stickers, and there's a notation (in English) on your registration
for out-of-province cops, telling them to ignore those stickers.
> b) are people using quebec plates here in ontario, even if they live in
> ontario?
No, that would be stupid. It costs almost $300 to renew in Quebec (if
you live in Montreal, say) compared to $74 in Ontario. It might as well
be _free_ in Ontario -- I can throw pennies into a jar all year and come
up with 74 bucks. People in Hull (e.g.) sometimes get their cars
registered in Ontario.
Front license plates were dropped in Quebec in the late 70s.
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Some Guy
> > a) is it a common scam for people in Quebec to not pay to renew
> > their license plate registration,
> In Quebec, your registration is renewed automatically, and you're
> sent it (with an invoice) in the mail.
So what if I don't want to renew? Can I tell them? So they don't send
me a bill?
And then I keep driving with the plate, and how are the cops gonna know?
> most people pay on time.
So the cops don't get into the habbit of running plates then - do they ?
> > b) are people using quebec plates here in ontario, even if
> > they live in> ontario?
>
> No, that would be stupid. It costs almost $300 to renew in Quebec
So I drive around in Ontario using quebec plates that I don't renew.
That costs me zero dollars, and why should the Ontario police be running
Quebec plates anyways? They're not gonna know if any given quebec plate
is paid up or not.
Tony
new license plates they wait until the whole fucking license plate rots out
and falls of their car. Obviously you can't stick a sticker onto a giant
hole. I say to these lazy fucking FROGs get a job instead of leaping and
hopping for flies all day.
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Warren Oates
> So what if I don't want to renew? Can I tell them? So they don't send
> me a bill?
>
> And then I keep driving with the plate, and how are the cops gonna know?
If you want to take your car off the road, you have to notify the
department. And your number goes on that list.
> So I drive around in Ontario using quebec plates that I don't renew.
> That costs me zero dollars, and why should the Ontario police be running
> Quebec plates anyways? They're not gonna know if any given quebec plate
> is paid up or not.
Good luck with that.
The Ontario cops near the border will have that info, if they need it,
and they only have to run Quebec plates near their region. Also, the
cops in Chicoutimi, say, aren't going to be on the lookout for unpaid
registrations from Hudson, say, so that makes the list they have to keep
quite a bit smaller. Besides, cops run plates all the time, just
because they can.
JF Mezei
lookups, and are also linked in with US databases. A cop in Kenora
Ontario can lookup a plate of any province or state. It just takes a few
additional seconds to get a response from outside the ontario database.
And it doesn't matter if the plate is from Rigaud across the ontario
border or from Chicoutimi deep inside Québec.
Mike
"Some Guy" <So...@Guy.com> wrote in message news:4C2C9605...@Guy.com...
>I know this question will spark a stupid comment from the resident
> buffoon...
>
> And I know that since 1992 or 93 that Quebec stopped issuing license
> plate registration stickers, but I'm wondering how exactly do the cops
> know if you've paid your annual registration fee for your license plate?
>
tickets ($300) on Ontario cars (Ottawa residents, shopping in Gatineau) that
have what Quebec calls expired stickers. In Ontario the sticker has the
month, let's say July. Ontario the police won't ticket you until August.
Technically if your birthday is July 2, your sticker has expired. But the
unofficially grace period will last the full month. In Quebec the plate is
deemed expired, and is subject to the Quebec "expired sticker fine"
(remember they don't have stickers themselves) The police will go car to car
in the big shopping malls targetting Ontario plates, and running the owners
DOB. The merchants have bitched about this practice, as it hurts their
business. But The City of Gatineau loves the revenue it brings in.
Mike
Warren Oates
wrote:
> The police will go car to car
> in the big shopping malls targetting Ontario plates, and running the owners
> DOB. The merchants have bitched about this practice, as it hurts their
> business. But The City of Gatineau loves the revenue it brings in.
Jesus. Another reason not to go to pepsi-land.
Some Guy
> Povincial police forces and linked with each other for licence
> plate lookups, and are also linked in with US databases.
My point is that I've never seen a plate from any other state / province
that doesn't give a quick and easy visual verification that the annual
registration has been paid on the plate by way of a sticker. Yes a cop
anywhere can do a lookup on any plate, but in the time that a cop can
lookup one plate, his eye can scan about 100 plates and spot any that
don't have the correct sticker.
DevilsPGD
claimed to have wrote:
Unless the colours of all other provinces line up (and they might, I've
never actually compared) I wouldn't expect every ON cop to know what a
NT or AB tag is coloured. This is even more significant since
difference provinces have different rules about expiry months.
More interesting is that Quebec's lack of tags likely results in their
license plates being run more often, so outstanding fines and warrants
are more likely to be caught.
John
<warren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <i0jrb1$esh$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, "Mike" <d...@null.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>> The police will go car to car
>> in the big shopping malls targetting Ontario plates, and running the owners
>> DOB. The merchants have bitched about this practice, as it hurts their
>> business. But The City of Gatineau loves the revenue it brings in.
>
>Jesus. Another reason not to go to pepsi-land.
A warning to you:
In tax land ( Quebec) we have agencies of the AAC that sell the
registration renewals, so I went to the one near me and told them that
I was no going to use my Mercedes 500 during the Winter and
consequently didn't need to renew the plate. The ignorant clerk
agreed.
3 months after I went to renew the licence and I had to pay $700 for
the license ( cars with engines larger than 5.0 liters pay twice) plus
a penalty for late payment.
Warren Oates
John <Y...@you.com> wrote:
> 3 months after I went to renew the licence and I had to pay $700 for
> the license ( cars with engines larger than 5.0 liters pay twice) plus
> a penalty for late payment.
I'm not even sure Quebec _has_ short-term registration like Ontario
(the yellow plates). And yeah, peppers are quick to grab dollars for
everything they see. 700 bucks for registration just because some
bureaucrat is jealous of your Merc is outrageous. In Ontario,
registration is $70; it might as well be free -- I could throw pennies
in a jar all year and come up with 70 bucks.
On the other hand:
When I moved to Ontario about a decade ago, I arrived in a clapped out
old VW (that I loved dearly, though) and drove it for a couple of years
with its Quebec plates (maintaining my Quebec residence, too), and
finally it was too clapped out and I parked it and removed the plate. I
wanted to take it off the road and maybe get a refund from the peppers
and sell the car in Ontario so I emailed _both_ the Ontario and Quebec
DMV and about an hour and a half after I sent the email I got a phone
call from a guy in Quebec City, and in perfect English he explained the
exact procedure to go about getting a refund and even how to register
the old car as "unfit" in Ontario (which only costs $10 and then you can
sell it and tow it but not drive it) and I thanked him and everything
worked as he said it would and I got my refund (you have to specifically
request a refund; the QC guy was very clear about that, make sure you
request the refund).
Anyway, six or so months later, I'm driving a different car now, all
duly registered (like myself) in Ontario and I get this phone call from
a guy sounds like he's in Mumbai and "Mister Gein, did you email our
vehicular offices about your VW?" and I just laughed and hung up.
When I exchanged my driver's permit, they charged me $50 and I was like
"Oh, is this for one year?" and they lady was all "Oh, no sir, that's
for five years," and so they might as well give that away free too. I
also got a refund from the peppers for that, making sure to specifically
request it; you don't have to tell me twice; and I got to keep my
motorcycle endorsement; and no, the insurance costs about the same here.
Wine's cheaper here too.
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John
Warren
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Regards
John
