CRA Going After Ebay Sellers, Barterers, and Similar
Anonymous
All the clowns in Deadmonton want more and more people
to know the truth about this cesspool.
News across Canada have carried the article below over past while.
Guess CRA will also be nailing second-hand dealers flogging on
kijiji,used[city] and barter businesses as well.
Maybe that is why some of the former sellers and barter boys
are now no longer listing their junk for sale on newsgroups -
because they got caught?
People will then have to ship their items out of Canada, and have
them sold in foreign countries, just to avoid paying the proper taxes?
Canadians who are high-volume sellers of products on the online
eBay marketplace may find themselves being audited by the
Canada Revenue Agency beginning this fall.
Revenue Minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn said Thursday anyone who has
sold products on the Web site could avoid audits, fines and penalties by
voluntarily coming forward and declaring the revenue to the agency.
"Taxpayers should know that the tax laws that apply to traditional
commerce apply in the same way to electronic commerce, like eBay selling,"
Mr. Blackburn said in a statement. "I strongly encourage eBay sellers, and
for that matter, any taxpayer who has not already done so, to correct
their tax affairs as soon as possible to avoid penalties or prosecution."
EBay Canada's head of marketplace development, Andrea Stairs, said the
company had alerted all members affected by the outcome of a recent
Federal Court of Canada decision prior to disclosing their account
information to the CRA.
"To date, there have been no additional information requests from the
CRA," Ms. Stairs said in a statement. For more information.
http://www.ebay.ca/powersellerinfo.
The CRA reminded those who may have been flying under the radar that they
can escape penalty and interest on overdue tax by coming forward under the
Voluntary Disclosure Program, provided such action is initiated before the
CRA launches any audit or other compliance act.
The agency says it will begin audits at the end of this summer.
From 2006 to 2008, eBay and the CRA clashed swords over disclosure of
information on eBay's "PowerSellers" - those who transact at least
US$1,000 a month in sales.
eBay Canada balked at disclosing information it considered a "violation of our users' privacy," but after an appeal was denied the Federal Court of Canada forced it to release information on its 2004 and 2005 PowerSellers, effective Nov. 7, 2008.
Because Canada's tax system relies on voluntary compliance, "it's no
surprise that income from eBay selling is taxable," said Jamie Golombek,
vice-president of tax at CIBC Wealth. "Sellers who may be in trouble
should approach the taxman before they come after you."
John Wonfor, national director of tax for BDO Dunwoody LLP, said the CRA
is concerned only with professional e-commerce practioners, not
individuals who may infrequently sell items such as used sofas just to get
rid of them, usually at a loss. "You don't have to pay tax on a loss and
you can't deduct it because it's personal use property, so it's a non
event."
There are five levels of PowerSellers, with the top ones transacting
US$150,000 a month, Mr. Wonfor said. "So there's substantial stuff going
on."
Once the CRA got the information it demanded on the PowerSellers, it would
check income tax and GST returns to see if they matched eBay activity. If
there is a mismatch, the agency would begin audits.
"They're putting everyone on notice that they should come forward before we catch you," Mr. Wonfor said, "PowerSellers who have been reporting all along have nothing to worry about."
Michael Rice, a semi-retired PowerSeller and owner of Fenian Antiques in
Saanichton, B.C., says he gives the CRA an income statement every year and
pays GST and provincial sales tax on all transactions. But there are many
on eBay still not following the rules, he said: "They're trying to fly
under the radar and will get caught at some point." CRA
Kenneth McVay OBC
Updated Grosvenor Legal Documents & Extortion conviction:
http://William-Grosvenor.info
Grosvenor's latest legal challenge:
http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2008/2008canlii57728/2008canlii57728.html
Ontario Superior Court of Justice, October 21, 2008
For two years, Edmonton resident William Grosvenor engaged in a
virtual campaign of terror against Ottawa human rights lawyer
Richard Warman. Grosvenor bombarded the Internet with calls to
murder Warman while providing his home address, and links to
pictures of him and Google maps on how to get to his home.
Combined with this were hundreds of online postings attempting to
destroy Warman's personal and professional reputation.
Now a judge of the Ontario Superior Court of Justice has granted
an injunction to put an end to it and has awarded Warman $50,000
in damages for defamation and assault, the latter stemming from
Grosvenor's death threats and incitement to violence. These
threats of violence repeatedly called for Warman's murder,
described him as a "Dead Jew walking", and said: "I AM GOD AND I
HAVE A RUGER P-90 AND IT'S BULLETS HAVE YOUR NAME ON THEM FAGBOY
WARMAN?." [sic]
In her decision issued 20 October 2008, Justice Lynn Ratushny
found that despite Grosvenor having filed papers saying he
intended to defend the civil suit, he never did and was thus
deemed to have admitted the allegations against him. Instead of
defending the action, the day after being served with the
statement of claim on 15 Jan. 2008 , Grosvenor began sending
waves of emails to Warman's personal email address repeating his
online threats and libel.
Justice Ratushny described Grosvenor's defamatory postings as
"vicious, profane and extreme". She found they were made
dishonestly and in knowing or reckless disregard for the truth,
and said it amounted to "highly reprehensible misconduct". sHe
went on to note the level of hatred and anger contained in
Grosvenor's threats. Justice Ratushny said Grosvenor's efforts to
target Warman for violence, including repeatedly providing his
home address during a two-year period, took them beyond empty
threats and meant they had to be taken seriously.
Warman is an Ottawa lawyer who has successfully filed and
litigated 14 cases against members of the white supremacist and
neo-Nazi movements under the Canadian Human Rights Act provisions
prohibiting the spreading of hate propaganda through the
Internet.
Responding to the decision, Warman said "I'm hugely relieved that
the injunction has been granted and hope this will bring an end
to this two-year long nightmare." He continued, "I wish I had
never heard of William Grosvenor, but if someone is going to
encourage people to kill me then I'm going to see what I can do
to stop them."
The terms of the injunction granted by Justice Ratushny at
paragraph 92 of her judgement reference the submissions of the
plaintiff at subparas. 119(c-f). These sub-paragraphs require
Grosvenor to issue a complete retraction of the defamatory
comments; take all reasonable steps to remove them and his
threats from the Internet; prohibit him from publishing further
defamatory material or incitement to violence; and also from
contacting or communicating with Warman in any way.
The specific terms are:
119(c) granting a mandatory injunction requiring the Defendant
Mr. Grosvenor to make a complete public retraction of the
defamatory comments;
119(d) granting a mandatory injunction requiring Mr. Grosvenor to
make all reasonable efforts to remove from the internet, the
entirety of any and all of the internet postings that he has
published or caused to be published, and which are defamatory to
the Plaintiff, and/or which invade the Plaintiff's privacy and/or
which threaten to harm or kill the Plaintiff and/or contain
invitations and encouragements to harm or kill the Plaintiff,
whether by using the Plaintiff's name, nick-name, address,
photograph or other means of identity;
119(e) granting a permanent injunction restraining the Defendant
Mr. Grosvenor, and/or any other persons acting for the Defendant,
from publishing, causing to be published, posting, or reposting
on the internet or by any other method or medium, either in Mr.
Grosvenor's own name, under any nick-name, pseudonym or aliases
that he now uses, has used, or may use in the future, any words
which are defamatory to the Plaintiff, and/or which invade the
Plaintiff's privacy and/or which threaten to harm or kill the
Plaintiff and/or contain invitations and encouragements to harm
or kill the Plaintiff, whether by using the Plaintiff's name,
nick-name, address, photograph or other means of identity; and
prohibiting Mr. Grosvenor from publishing or causing to be
published any such words about Mr. Warman, anonymously, or in the
name of another person;
199(f) restraining Mr. Grosvenor from contacting or communicating
directly or indirectly with Mr. Warman, in any way or by any
method;
--
"this mite hold with the uneducated fools but any man
with brains will see it full of holes" ("Irving Supporter,"
a Leading Revisionist Scholar)
http://www.nizkor.org
Canuck57
> CRA Going After Ebay Sellers, and Similar
eBay is small potatoes. CCRA having a slow day? Or is CCRA just
posturizing for publicity by picking on someone for 50 cents?
> All the clowns in Deadmonton want more and more people
> to know the truth about this cesspool.
>
> News across Canada have carried the article below over past while.
> Guess CRA will also be nailing second-hand dealers flogging on
> kijiji,used[city] and barter businesses as well.
> Maybe that is why some of the former sellers and barter boys
> are now no longer listing their junk for sale on newsgroups -
> because they got caught?
Well, if they go after the hobbiests, part timers and little guys, gives
Canadians the idea they are trying to collect.
Yet they let the big fish swim free.
> People will then have to ship their items out of Canada, and have
> them sold in foreign countries, just to avoid paying the proper taxes?
No big.
> Canadians who are high-volume sellers of products on the online
> eBay marketplace may find themselves being audited by the
> Canada Revenue Agency beginning this fall.
Most of the stuff is second hand, taxes already paid. This is CCRA noise.
> Revenue Minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn said Thursday anyone who has
> sold products on the Web site could avoid audits, fines and penalties by
> voluntarily coming forward and declaring the revenue to the agency.
So if I sell a 3 year old computer, paid for with tax paid dolalrs and
GST+PST+Green knob taxes, I resell for 10% of what I paid and the
government is ticked? Or I give it to the family scronger hobbing it?
> "Taxpayers should know that the tax laws that apply to traditional
> commerce apply in the same way to electronic commerce, like eBay selling,"
> Mr. Blackburn said in a statement. "I strongly encourage eBay sellers, and
> for that matter, any taxpayer who has not already done so, to correct
> their tax affairs as soon as possible to avoid penalties or prosecution."
Think, the tax revolt might start on eBay!!!
> EBay Canada's head of marketplace development, Andrea Stairs, said the
> company had alerted all members affected by the outcome of a recent
> Federal Court of Canada decision prior to disclosing their account
> information to the CRA.
Depends, are the servers on US soil? Want to know how easy it is to
forge a US IP address?
> "To date, there have been no additional information requests from the
> CRA," Ms. Stairs said in a statement. For more information.
> http://www.ebay.ca/powersellerinfo.
>
> The CRA reminded those who may have been flying under the radar that they
> can escape penalty and interest on overdue tax by coming forward under the
> Voluntary Disclosure Program, provided such action is initiated before the
> CRA launches any audit or other compliance act.
> The agency says it will begin audits at the end of this summer.
Ya, you are in contender to be the worlds biggest fool if you trust the
CCRA for tax advice.
> From 2006 to 2008, eBay and the CRA clashed swords over disclosure of
> information on eBay's "PowerSellers" - those who transact at least
> US$1,000 a month in sales.
>
> eBay Canada balked at disclosing information it considered a "violation of our users' privacy," but after an appeal was denied the Federal Court of Canada forced it to release information on its 2004 and 2005 PowerSellers, effective Nov. 7, 2008.
> Because Canada's tax system relies on voluntary compliance, "it's no
> surprise that income from eBay selling is taxable," said Jamie Golombek,
> vice-president of tax at CIBC Wealth. "Sellers who may be in trouble
> should approach the taxman before they come after you."
I guess parliament will have to officially make the tax system law.
Change it from a temporary war tax.
> John Wonfor, national director of tax for BDO Dunwoody LLP, said the CRA
> is concerned only with professional e-commerce practioners, not
> individuals who may infrequently sell items such as used sofas just to get
> rid of them, usually at a loss. "You don't have to pay tax on a loss and
> you can't deduct it because it's personal use property, so it's a non
> event."
Only because for those people, they could declare the losses on their
income tax. LMAO, double standard.
> There are five levels of PowerSellers, with the top ones transacting
> US$150,000 a month, Mr. Wonfor said. "So there's substantial stuff going
> on."
How many Canadian people do you know cranking $150,000 US a month on
eBay? Is this guy sane? All this fuss for one or two offenders?
> Once the CRA got the information it demanded on the PowerSellers, it would
> check income tax and GST returns to see if they matched eBay activity. If
> there is a mismatch, the agency would begin audits.
>
> "They're putting everyone on notice that they should come forward before we catch you," Mr. Wonfor said, "PowerSellers who have been reporting all along have nothing to worry about."
Why don't they go after the big fish? Hint, they have politicial
connections.
Does Canadian Steam Ship Lines pay their share of taxes including the
primary shareholder?
Did Mulroney pay taxes and penalties for late filing of the "cash" he got?
Did the Liberals in ad-scam ever pay back or declare the proceeds as income?
Nooopppeee... CCRA, terrorizing Canadians. Keep the sheeples in line
so Ottawa can bailout banks, GM and a long list of preffered corrupt
companies.
noauth
All the clowns in Deadmonton want more and more people
to know the truth about this cesspool.
News across Canada have carried the article below over past while.
Guess CRA will also be nailing second-hand dealers flogging on
kijiji,used[city] and barter businesses as well.
Maybe that is why some of the former sellers and barter boys
are now no longer listing their junk for sale on newsgroups -
because they got caught?
People will then have to ship their items out of Canada, and have
them sold in foreign countries, just to avoid paying the proper taxes?
Canadians who are high-volume sellers of products on the online
eBay marketplace may find themselves being audited by the
Canada Revenue Agency beginning this fall.
Revenue Minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn said Thursday anyone who has
sold products on the Web site could avoid audits, fines and penalties by
voluntarily coming forward and declaring the revenue to the agency.
"Taxpayers should know that the tax laws that apply to traditional
commerce apply in the same way to electronic commerce, like eBay selling,"
Mr. Blackburn said in a statement. "I strongly encourage eBay sellers, and
for that matter, any taxpayer who has not already done so, to correct
their tax affairs as soon as possible to avoid penalties or prosecution."
EBay Canada's head of marketplace development, Andrea Stairs, said the
company had alerted all members affected by the outcome of a recent
Federal Court of Canada decision prior to disclosing their account
information to the CRA.
"To date, there have been no additional information requests from the
CRA," Ms. Stairs said in a statement. For more information.
http://www.ebay.ca/powersellerinfo.
The CRA reminded those who may have been flying under the radar that they
can escape penalty and interest on overdue tax by coming forward under the
Voluntary Disclosure Program, provided such action is initiated before the
CRA launches any audit or other compliance act.
The agency says it will begin audits at the end of this summer.
>From 2006 to 2008, eBay and the CRA clashed swords over disclosure of
information on eBay's "PowerSellers" - those who transact at least
US$1,000 a month in sales.
eBay Canada balked at disclosing information it considered a "violation of our users' privacy," but after an appeal was denied the Federal Court of Canada forced it to release information on its 2004 and 2005 PowerSellers, effective Nov. 7, 2008.
Because Canada's tax system relies on voluntary compliance, "it's no
surprise that income from eBay selling is taxable," said Jamie Golombek,
vice-president of tax at CIBC Wealth. "Sellers who may be in trouble
should approach the taxman before they come after you."
John Wonfor, national director of tax for BDO Dunwoody LLP, said the CRA
is concerned only with professional e-commerce practioners, not
individuals who may infrequently sell items such as used sofas just to get
rid of them, usually at a loss. "You don't have to pay tax on a loss and
you can't deduct it because it's personal use property, so it's a non
event."
There are five levels of PowerSellers, with the top ones transacting
US$150,000 a month, Mr. Wonfor said. "So there's substantial stuff going
on."
Once the CRA got the information it demanded on the PowerSellers, it would
check income tax and GST returns to see if they matched eBay activity. If
there is a mismatch, the agency would begin audits.
"They're putting everyone on notice that they should come forward before we catch you," Mr. Wonfor said, "PowerSellers who have been reporting all along have nothing to worry about."
Michael Rice, a semi-retired PowerSeller and owner of Fenian Antiques in
Saanichton, B.C., says he gives the CRA an income statement every year and
pays GST and provincial sales tax on all transactions. But there are many
on eBay still not following the rules, he said: "They're trying to fly
under the radar and will get caught at some point." CRA
Some of you are complaining that CRA should go after the big fish.
This must include all the stalls in malls across Canada, operated by
ILLEGAL ISRAELIS, who are collecting tens of millions of
dollars a year selling counterfeit goods!
What about all the unlicenced second dealers selling their junk at
weekend flea markets?
Don't forget all the "curbers" unlicenced used car dealers.
I am sure that Sharx and others can add to the list of targets for CRA,
where much additional revenue can be collected.
Kenneth McVay OBC
Updated Grosvenor Legal Documents & Extortion conviction:
http://William-Grosvenor.info
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