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Why don't Americans recognize or understand the symbolism of the red poppy?

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Some Guy

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:25:40 PM11/10/09
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Americans think that only the Brittish wear poppies to commemorate
veterans or the end of WW1.

Why exactly did this idea of wearing red poppies not catch on with
Americans?

chuckcar

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:50:16 PM11/10/09
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Some Guy <So...@Guy.com> wrote in news:4AFA1294...@Guy.com:

Because Mcrea was Canadian and they hardly were in it.

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Warren Oates

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:57:24 AM11/11/09
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You'll note that Google.ca has a poppy on it; Google.com doesn't. Now,
Google.com don't seem to commemorate anything much (except Nikolai
Tesla), but Google.ca have nice logos for St. Patrick's day and
Christmas and all week they've been doing Muppet logos, and the Muppets
were from NYC ferchrissake. But not the yanks, no sirree bob. Nothin'
might offend the Mozlem neighbo(u)rs I guess.
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SomeToo

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Nov 13, 2009, 1:34:00 PM11/13/09
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In article <4AFA1294...@Guy.com>, Some Guy <So...@Guy.com> wrote:

The poppy is the source of a bad drug, much of it from that bad country.
A different flower is needed.

Warren Oates

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Nov 13, 2009, 4:01:00 PM11/13/09
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In article <Somet-F94CFC....@news.telus.net>,
SomeToo <So...@sayspam.net> wrote:

> The poppy is the source of a bad drug, much of it from that bad country.
> A different flower is needed.

Poison oak.

chuckcar

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Nov 14, 2009, 12:11:48 AM11/14/09
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SomeToo <So...@sayspam.net> wrote in
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Riight. Morphine has killed millions of cancer patients in hospitals. And
codine has done the same for billions of headache suffers. Both wouldn't
exist without knowledge of Opium. There's a whole class of medically
approved drugs *called* opiates. BTW Absinthe which is little more than
opium and alcohol was considered the drink of choice in the 1800's. Even
Victoria drank it.

Chris F.A. Johnson

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Nov 14, 2009, 12:19:27 AM11/14/09
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Absinthe is an anise and wormwood liquor; it contains no opium.

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Tony

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Nov 14, 2009, 5:04:38 AM11/14/09
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Chuck your countrymen the FROGs hid under the beds during WWI and WWII. What's
it like hiding under bunkbeds? Dusty? Your countrymen need that poppy pin
shoved right up their arses.

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chuckcar

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Nov 14, 2009, 3:42:55 PM11/14/09
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"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:7m6suvF...@mid.individual.net:

> On 2009-11-14, chuckcar wrote:
>> SomeToo <So...@sayspam.net> wrote in
>> news:Somet-F94CFC....@news.telus.net:
>>
>>> In article <4AFA1294...@Guy.com>, Some Guy <So...@Guy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Americans think that only the Brittish wear poppies to commemorate
>>>> veterans or the end of WW1.
>>>>
>>>> Why exactly did this idea of wearing red poppies not catch on with
>>>> Americans?
>>>
>>> The poppy is the source of a bad drug, much of it from that bad
>>> country. A different flower is needed.
>>
>> Riight. Morphine has killed millions of cancer patients in hospitals.
>> And codine has done the same for billions of headache suffers. Both
>> wouldn't exist without knowledge of Opium. There's a whole class of
>> medically approved drugs *called* opiates. BTW Absinthe which is little
>> more than opium and alcohol was considered the drink of choice in the
>> 1800's. Even Victoria drank it.
>
> Absinthe is an anise and wormwood liquor; it contains no opium.
>

Not now. And coca cola doesn't contain cocaine anymore either.

Chris F.A. Johnson

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Nov 14, 2009, 5:06:51 PM11/14/09
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I can find no evidence that it ever did. Perhaps you are thinking of nepenthe?

> And coca cola doesn't contain cocaine anymore either.

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Chris F.A. Johnson

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Nov 14, 2009, 6:30:42 PM11/14/09
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On 2009-11-14, Johnny Rebel wrote:

> Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>> On 2009-11-14, chuckcar wrote:
>>> "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:7m6suvF...@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> On 2009-11-14, chuckcar wrote:
>>>>> SomeToo <So...@sayspam.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:Somet-F94CFC....@news.telus.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <4AFA1294...@Guy.com>, Some Guy <So...@Guy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Americans think that only the Brittish wear poppies to commemorate
>>>>>>> veterans or the end of WW1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why exactly did this idea of wearing red poppies not catch on with
>>>>>>> Americans?
>>>>>> The poppy is the source of a bad drug, much of it from that bad
>>>>>> country. A different flower is needed.
>>>>> Riight. Morphine has killed millions of cancer patients in hospitals.
>>>>> And codine has done the same for billions of headache suffers. Both
>>>>> wouldn't exist without knowledge of Opium. There's a whole class of
>>>>> medically approved drugs *called* opiates. BTW Absinthe which is little
>>>>> more than opium and alcohol was considered the drink of choice in the
>>>>> 1800's. Even Victoria drank it.
>>>> Absinthe is an anise and wormwood liquor; it contains no opium.
>>>>
>>> Not now.
>>
>> I can find no evidence that it ever did. Perhaps you are thinking of nepenthe?
>
> http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp

That refers to the CocaCola (which I wasn't disputing), not to
absinthe.

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chuckcar

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Nov 15, 2009, 12:04:26 AM11/15/09
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"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:7m8nvrF...@mid.individual.net:

> On 2009-11-14, chuckcar wrote:
>> "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:7m6suvF...@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> On 2009-11-14, chuckcar wrote:
>>>> SomeToo <So...@sayspam.net> wrote in
>>>> news:Somet-F94CFC....@news.telus.net:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <4AFA1294...@Guy.com>, Some Guy <So...@Guy.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Americans think that only the Brittish wear poppies to commemorate
>>>>>> veterans or the end of WW1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why exactly did this idea of wearing red poppies not catch on with
>>>>>> Americans?
>>>>>
>>>>> The poppy is the source of a bad drug, much of it from that bad
>>>>> country. A different flower is needed.
>>>>
>>>> Riight. Morphine has killed millions of cancer patients in hospitals.
>>>> And codine has done the same for billions of headache suffers. Both
>>>> wouldn't exist without knowledge of Opium. There's a whole class of
>>>> medically approved drugs *called* opiates. BTW Absinthe which is
>>>> little more than opium and alcohol was considered the drink of choice
>>>> in the 1800's. Even Victoria drank it.
>>>
>>> Absinthe is an anise and wormwood liquor; it contains no opium.
>>>
>> Not now.
>
> I can find no evidence that it ever did. Perhaps you are thinking of
> nepenthe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absenthe

There is mention of it being suspected of having psychoactive properties,
perhaps that's where it came from. In any case it's liquor that the queen
of england took. The only *slight* factual error which brings the point
completely OT to the thread which was and is that the reason for the
poppy's use is due to what Mcrae saw on that battlefield that led him to
the poem. Any change to the use of the poppy would be blind idiotic PC
nonsence that destroys the memories of the horrors or war.

Tony

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:03:35 AM11/16/09
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Chuck it sounds to me like the FROGThrottle boxes are softening your brain!

chuckcar wrote:

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Warren Oates

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Nov 17, 2009, 7:40:11 AM11/17/09
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In article <Xns9CC398C14F...@127.0.0.1>,
chuckcar <ch...@nil.car> wrote:

> Not now.

Look it up Chuck.

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