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leona...@gmail.com

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Dec 12, 2007, 10:25:18 AM12/12/07
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AP is spreading the politically correct propaganda while
ignoring 'current' data which shows the Arctic snow and ice
cover back to normal, and winter still 2 weeks away.

Data Show 'Arctic Is Screaming', Scientists Say,
but Obsolete and Fraudulent Data Lies
Sea_Level_Rising_Is_a_Total_Fraud:--
IPCC Data Fake

BY SETH BORENSTEIN - Associated Press
December 12, 2007
URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/67928


WASHINGTON -- An already relentless melting of the Arctic greatly
accelerated this summer, a warning sign that some scientists worry
could mean global warming has passed an ominous tipping point. One
even speculated that summer sea ice would be gone in five years.

Greenland's ice sheet melted nearly 19 billion tons more than the
previous high mark, and the volume of Arctic sea ice at summer's end
was half what it was just four years earlier, according to new NASA
satellite data obtained by the Associated Press.

Last spring NASA demonstrated their sattelites can not distinguish a
lake from an ice sheet--

> Indeed, the melting records in both Arctic and
> Antarctic, have been kept by James Hansen,
> NASA's climate "expert", who in Jan 07
> (Antrctic summer) turned a 45°F mild spell
> when the temp cooled out in a few days and the
> surface refroze published that it was a lake as big
> as California.

"The Arctic is screaming," a senior scientist at the government's snow
and ice data center in Boulder,
Col., Mark Serreze, said.

* Apparently Serreze & co are 1- using data they
collected last summer; 2- using useless computer
models that can not accurately forecast the
weather 5 days ahead, much less 5 years


Last year, two scientists surprised their colleagues by projecting
that the Arctic sea ice was melting so fast that it could disappear
entirely by the summer of 2040. This week, after reviewing his own new
data, a NASA climate scientist, Jay Zwally, said: "At this rate, the
Arctic Ocean could be nearly ice-free at the end of summer by 2012,
much faster than previous predictions."

* His "previous predictions" were from computer
models of dubious reliability, as are his present
predictions. (See "Hansen" above)

So scientists in recent days have been asking themselves these
questions: Was the record melt seen all over the Arctic in 2007 a blip
amid relentless and steady warming? Or has everything sped up to a new
climate cycle that goes beyond the worst case scenarios presented by
computer models?

| "Greenhouse gas changes are well known, they note,
| but not so the counteracting cooling of pollutant hazes,
| called aerosols. Aerosols cool the planet by reflecting
| away sunlight and increasing the reflectivity of clouds.
| Somehow, the three researchers say, modelers failed
| to draw on all the uncertainty inherent in aerosols so
| that the 20th-century simulations look more certain
| than they should."

| What? "Somehow" they missed the biggest
| unknown factor in climate prediction?

| Highly qualified climate scientists have long
| warned that warming estimates have at least one
| giant question mark: Water vapor and other tiny
| particles in the atmosphere. By failing to include
| reliable estimates of such "hazes" (not necessarily
| pollutants, as the article says), global warming
| models are likely to err wildly on the side of
| warming. It's the unseen elephant in the living
| room.

| The SCIENCE article therefore finally admits what
| scientific critics have been saying for years.

| Interested readers should also take a good look at
| the graph in the SCIENCE article, which
| superficially seems to support the global warming
| story. But notice the vertical bars at the right side
| of the graph, which show the "90 percent
| confidence interval" --- the chances that the graph
| line is actually where it is shown to be. Turns out
| that the orange confidence interval includes all the
| points on the graph between 1930 and 2000...
| meaning that we can't tell that any of those points
| are different from each other with even 90 percent
| certainty. And that's not even including the big
| Black Hole of water vapor.

| ... So we normally demand a higher standard of
| proof --- at least 95 percent confidence. The
| data in the SCIENCE graph therefore does not
| meet routine scientific standards.

"The Arctic is often cited as the canary in the coal mine for climate
warming," Mr. Zwally, who as a teenager hauled coal, said. "Now as a
sign of climate warming, the canary has died.

***** He was using a sick canary

It is time to start getting out of the coal mines."

***** Zwally and Hansen use the same sattelites
and the same computer models which
apparently are sick canaries

It is the burning of coal, oil, and other fossil fuels that produces
carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, responsible for man-made
global warming.

***** Indeed no research has been seen that proves
that "the burning of coal, oil, and other fossil fuels
fuels that produces carbon dioxide and other
greenhouse gases, responsible for man-made
global warming". In fact no one has provided
proof that man-made global warming actually
exists. In fact the predominate evidence is to
the contrary


For the past several days, government diplomats have been debating in
Bali, Indonesia, the outlines of a new climate treaty calling for
tougher limits on these gases.

***** Note: Not a scientist in the carload, just politically
correct, fascist bureaucrats

What happens in the Arctic has implications for the rest of the world.
Faster melting there means eventual sea level rise and more immediate
changes in winter weather because of less sea ice.

| Sea_Level_Rising_Is_a_Total_Fraud:--
| IPCC Data Fake

| Arctic Sea Level Falling


| Arctic sea level has been falling more than 2mm
| a year - a movement that [supposedly] sets the
| region against the global trend of rising waters
| waters. A Dutch-UK team made the discovery
| after analyzing radar altimetry data gathered by
| Europe's ERS-2 satellite.

| "We have high confidence in the results; it's now
| down to the geophysics community to explain
| them," said Dr Remko Scharroo, from consultants
| Altimetrics LLC, who led the study.

| The European Space Agency's (Esa) ERS-2
| satellite has been making observations of the
| Earth from its 800km-high polar orbit for over
| 10 years.

| Correcting the data to take account of ocean tides,
| wave heights, air pressure, and atmospheric
| effects that might bias the signal, Dr Scharroo and
| colleagues established seasonal and yearly
| sea-level trends in the Arctic (from 60 to 82
| degrees latitude) for the period 1995 to 2003. The
| analysis reveals an average 2.17mm fall per annum.


| Another way of looking at what is going on is the
| tide gauge. Tide gauging is very complicated,
| because it gives different answers for wherever
| you are in the world. But we have to rely on
| geology when we interpret it. So, for example,
| those people in the IPCC choose Hong Kong,
| which has six tide gauges, and they choose the
| record of one, which gives 2.3 mm per year rise
| of sea level. Every geologist knows that that is
| a subsiding area. It's the compaction of sediment;
| it is the only record which you shouldn't use.

| ... Not even ignorance could be responsible for a
| thing like that. ...So tide gauges, you have to treat
| very, very carefully. Now, back to satellite
| altimetry. From 1992 to 2002, [the graph of the
| sea level] was a straight line, variability along a
| straight line, but absolutely no trend whatsoever.
| We could see those spikes: a very rapid rise, but
| then in half a year, they fall back again. But
| absolutely no trend, and to have a sea-level rise,
| you need a trend.

| Then, in 2003, the same data set, which in
| [IPCC's] publications, in their website, was a
| straight line-- suddenly it changed, and
| showed a very strong line of uplift, 2.3 mm per
| year, the same as from the tide gauge. And that
| didn't look so nice. It looked as though they had
| recorded something; but they hadn't recorded
| anything. It was the original one which they had
| suddenly twisted up, because they entered a
| "correction factor," which they took from the tide
| gauge. So it was not a measured thing, but a
| figure introduced from outside. I accused them
| of this at the Academy of Sciences in Moscow --
| I said you have introduced factors from outside;
| it's not a measurement. It looks like it is measured
| from the satellite, but you don't say what really
| happened. And they answered, that we had to do
| it, because otherwise we would not have gotten
| any trend!

That is terrible! As a matter of fact, it is a
falsification of the data set. Why? Because
they know the answer....
---===0===---

In America, a weakened Arctic blast moving south to collide with moist
air from the Gulf of Mexico can mean less rain and snow in some areas,
including the drought-stricken Southeast, a former federal climate
scientist who now heads the nonprofit Climate Institute, Michael
MacCracken, said. Some regions, like Colorado, would likely get extra
rain or snow.

More than 18 scientists told the AP that they were surprised by the
level of ice melt this year.

***** But how many did any research to discover why
the surprising level of ice melt this year? Like
good, politically correct sheep most probably just
blamed it on the myth -- global warming.

***** None observed the heavy tectonic/volcanic
activity in the Gakkel Ridge, an huge submarine
mountain chain larger than the Swiss Alps in the
Arctic Ocean

"I don't pay much attention to one year ... but this year the change
is so big, particularly in the Arctic sea ice, that you've got to stop
and say, 'What is going on here?' You can't look away from what's
happening here," NASA's chief of cyrospheric sciences, Waleed
Abdalati, said. "This is going to be a watershed year."


leona...@gmail.com

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Dec 12, 2007, 11:20:29 AM12/12/07
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AP is spreading the politically correct propaganda while
ignoring 'current' data which shows the Arctic snow and
ice cover back to normal, and winter still 2 weeks away.
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Lloyd

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Dec 12, 2007, 11:26:08 AM12/12/07
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On Dec 12, 10:25 am, leonard7...@gmail.com wrote:
> AP is spreading the politically correct propaganda while
> ignoring 'current' data which shows the Arctic snow and ice
> cover back to normal, and winter still 2 weeks away.
>
> Data Show 'Arctic Is Screaming', Scientists Say,
> but Obsolete and Fraudulent Data Lies
> Sea_Level_Rising_Is_a_Total_Fraud:--
> IPCC Data Fake
>

You are an idiot.

Climate is not weather.

Like you know anything about science.

> "The Arctic is often cited as the canary in the coal mine for climate
> warming," Mr. Zwally, who as a teenager hauled coal, said. "Now as a
> sign of climate warming, the canary has died.
>
> ***** He was using a sick canary
>
> It is time to start getting out of the coal mines."
>
> ***** Zwally and Hansen use the same sattelites
> and the same computer models which
> apparently are sick canaries
>

Satellites are satellites.

> It is the burning of coal, oil, and other fossil fuels that produces
> carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, responsible for man-made
> global warming.
>
> ***** Indeed no research has been seen that proves
> that "the burning of coal, oil, and other fossil fuels
> fuels that produces carbon dioxide and other
> greenhouse gases, responsible for man-made
> global warming".

OK, now you are a liar.

>In fact no one has provided
> proof that man-made global warming actually
> exists. In fact the predominate evidence is to
> the contrary
>

Lie.

Ouroboros_Rex

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Dec 12, 2007, 11:27:13 AM12/12/07
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<leona...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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AP is spreading the politically correct propaganda while
ignoring 'current' data which shows the Arctic snow and ice
cover back to normal,

Cite please.


last...@rogers.com

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Dec 13, 2007, 7:52:54 AM12/13/07
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On Dec 12, 11:27 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
> <leonard7...@gmail.com> wrote in message

***** If you could stir your peanut brain sufficiently to
read more than 3 lines, you would not need a cite.
But of course you 'could' always google.


Another Ice Panic Melts Away

The University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research says
sea ice in the Southern Hemisphere is way above what
it was at the same time last year: Alexandre Aguiar of
MetSul Weather Center notes: Southern Hemisphere's
ice cover now is at the same level as last June, i.e., a
level seen during the last winter in the Southern
Hemisphere. Besides, there are two more millions
square kilometers of ice now compared to December
2006. And the large positive anomaly has persisted
since September.

Not that the media is interested in the above-normal
ice down there, when it can panic about the below-
normal ice around the North Pole.

Er, make that "can" a "could". As in past tense.
Aguiar continues: In the Northern Hemisphere, the
ice and snow cover have recovered to within 1%
(one snowstorm) of normal with the official start of
winter still more than 12 days away.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/com...

V-for-Vendicar

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Feb 7, 2008, 3:36:07 AM2/7/08
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<leona...@gmail.com> wrote

> AP is spreading the politically correct propaganda while
> ignoring 'current' data which shows the Arctic snow and ice
> cover back to normal, and winter still 2 weeks away.

Ya, they are all part of the global conspiracy to make you look like the
asshole you are.


V-for-Vendicar

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Feb 8, 2008, 4:22:12 AM2/8/08
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<leona...@gmail.com> wrote

> AP is spreading the politically correct propaganda while
> ignoring 'current' data which shows the Arctic snow and ice
> cover back to normal, and winter still 2 weeks away.

Ya, they are all part of the global conspiracy to make you look like the
schizophrenic asshole you are.


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