Nanaimo BC NIZKOR.ORG Criticizing Anti-Communism? Does This Mean Nizkor director Ken McVay is Pro-Communist?
Tavish
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In USENET i have proved in the past day one of Ken McVay's main supporters,
Peter Outerbridge aka Paul Kneisel, has very evident communist sympathies if he
is not an out right communist.
A few proofs Peter Outerbridge is a communist sympathizer and is against
anti-communists:
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From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct-nospam-or-fascism.net>
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
Subject: The Internet Anti-Fascist: Tuesday, 6 August 2002 -- 6:38
Date: 5 Aug 2002 23:38:07 -0500
Message-ID: <ainjrf$1365$1...@pencil.math.missouri.edu>
"...It is our strategy that participation and intervention in these struggles,
from an anarchist-communist viewpoint, will help radicalize them as well as many
people in our class that we fight alongside in our neighborhoods and workplaces
and that it will build a strong multi-racial movement capable of defeating the
fascists. Slowly building a base for a truly mass revolutionary anarchist
movement capable of defeating not only fascist organizations but also the
combined forces of capital and the state." <END> Peter Outerbridge aka Paul
Kneisel
If Peter Outerbridge aka Paul Kneisel isn't a communist then why did he say: "It
is our strategy that participation and intervention in these struggles, from an
anarchist-communist viewpoint.."?
Looks pretty communist to me!!!
Here is Peter Outerbridge eulogizing a recently departed comrade:
http://csf.colorado.edu/pen-l/2000IV/msg03883.html
The Internet Anti-Fascist: Tuesday, 19 Dec 2000 -- 4:102 (#498)
by Paul Kneisel
21 December 2000 03:29 UTC
[...]
OBITUARY
Ralph Bates: Writer who kept his devotion to republican Spain alive in
his novels Valentine Cunningham (Guardian) 12 Dec 00
Ralph Bates, who has died in New York, aged 101, was the oldest
survivor of that legendary group of British writers who gave their energies,
their writings, and - in some cases - their lives to the cause of the
Spanish republic in its doomed fight against fascism in the 1930s.
At some point in the 15 years before the Spanish civil war broke out
in 1937, he was a communist trade union agitator and organiser in the
docks and fishing industries of Catalonia, where he became a fluent speaker
of Spanish and Catalan. His knowledge of Spanish working-class and
peasant life would turn him into one of the Comintern's best experts on Spain.
....By 1923 he had joined the Communist party....
In 1937, Bates was sent by the Communist party to the United States to
drum up financial support and attract more volunteers. There were huge
rallies in venues such as Madison Square Gardens, and he became a darling of
the American left...
In one of his best Spanish pieces, Compa Sagasta Burns A Church,
published in Left Review in October 1936, Bates pays understanding
tribute to the Spanish anarchist's need to calmly burn out the signs and
symbols of religious oppression; he was very ready to go along with what WH
Auden called "the necessary murder" in a revolutionary cause. But he also
dwells compellingly on the fatalism of anarchists - the belief that, at
bottom, anarchism, "noble, just and beautiful", is "unrealizable" and
therefore doomed.
When he wrote this, Bates's line was that, by contrast, communism was
not only noble but also realisable...
<END>
Notice how Peter commented on his fallen comrade's writing: "In one of his best
Spanish pieces, Compa Sagasta Burns A Church, published in Left Review in
October 1936"? How about Peter Outerbridge including: "communism was not only
noble but also realisable..."?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=x3F13.898%24G3.28089%40news13.ispnews.com&output=gplain
From: Paul Kneisel <tall...@nyct.net>
Subject: (en)[excerpts] The Internet Anti-Fascist, Fri 14 May 99 -- 3:36/37
(#264-265)
Date: 1999/05/22
Message-ID: <x3F13.898$G3.2...@news13.ispnews.com>
"The prescription for the political illness of fascism is education...
Teachers, school administrators, students and parents need to recognize
and talk frankly about the dangers posed by fascist organizers in their
midst or on the internet. ...why the whole student body has an
interest in taking a stand against... anti-communism,..." <END>
Why would Peter Outerbridge want children to be educated against being
"anti-communists"?
Who other than a communist would be against anti-communism?
Nizkor director Ken McVay is anti-nazi BUT he is against anti-communism himself
as these archives tend to indicate.
Here is Ken McVay equating anti-communism to racism!
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/christian-identity/religion-white-racists.html
Christian Identity: A Religion for White Racists
"...Christians sometimes connect with this movement because of Identity's
espousal of issues such as right-to-life and anti-Communism. Because of this
vulnerability it is important for Christians to know and understand Identity's
false and racist teachings.... Another speaker used by most groups is Lt. Col.
Jack Mohr, whose specialty is anti-Communism." <END>
What is wrong with being an anti-communist Ken? Are you therefore pro-communist?
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/canadian/sirc/heritage-front/hf-i-overview.html
The Heritage Front Affair
Report to the Solicitor General of Canada
Security Intelligence Review Committee
December 9, 1994
"...the Edmund Burke Society in 1967. This Toronto-based organization, described
as "fringe right" by Stanley Barrett, covered the gamut of right-wing issues,
although anti-communism started out as the main focus of its attack." <END>
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/d/darville.helen/press/press-summary
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/d/darville.helen/press/press-summary
Message-ID: <20E5F...@edus2.educ.monash.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 21:12:14 CDT
Reply-To: History of Antisemitism List
Sender: History of Antisemitism List
From: Paul Gardner R313 x52854
Subject: The Demidenko/Darville affair
B'nai B'rith District 21 (Australia and New Zealand)
B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation Commission
Research Division
"Demidenko's mind-set, inherited one imagines from her
upbringing, is the result of anti-Communism..." <END>
The person mentioned is being raked over the coals by B'nai Brith and its attack
dog Nizkor!
Can anyone show any archive where B'nai Brith or Nizkor has ever condemned
communism out right? Can anyone show any archives where B'nai Brith or its
attack dog Nizkor has ever shown any leaning toward anti-communism?
Here is a Nizkor archive which compares a conservative to fascism:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/buchanan-pat/berlet-01.html
Buchanan & Fascism: A Serious Look
"The Roots of the Culture War
Spanning the breadth of the antidemocratic hard right is the banner of the
Culture War. The idea of the Culture War was promoted by strategist Paul Weyrich
of the Free Congress Foundation. In 1987, Weyrich commissioned a study, Cultural
Conservatism: Toward a New National Agenda, which argued that cultural issues
provided antiliberalism with a more unifying concept than economic conservatism.
Cultural Conservatism: Theory and Practice followed in 1991... The Christian
Coalition could conceivably evolve into a more mainstream conservative political
movement, or--especially if the economy deteriorates--it could build a mass base
for fascism similar to the clerical fascist movements of mid-century Europe.
For decades anti-communism was the glue that bound together the various
tendencies on the right. Ironically, the collapse of communism in Europe allowed
the US political right to shift its primary focus from an extreme and hyperbolic
anti-communism... dominate the right wing of the Republican Party, and included
Patrick Buchanan, Phyllis Schlafly's Eagle Forum, Pat Robertson's Christian
Coalition, the Rockford Institute, David Noebel's Summit Ministries, and Paul
Weyrich's Free Congress Foundation and Institute for Cultural Conservatism. Of
more historical importance are the John Birch Society, the Christian
Anti-Communism Crusade..." <END>
Doesn't it seem like Nizkor director Ken McVay's favorite color would be RED?
Why is "anti-communism" shown in a negative light at his B'nai Brith funded web
site?
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/b/bellant.russ/bellant.conclu
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/b/bellant.russ/bellant.conclu
"The record to date leads to the conclusion that the
Republican National Committee and the network around the American
Security Council and World Anti-Communist League may consider it
forgivable to have been a fascist collaborator so long as one is
today an active anti-communist pursuing the maintenance of the
Cold War in foreign policy and extremist right-wing politics at
home." <END>
Ken McVay definitely does not like anti-communists!
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/sirc/heritage-front/HF-VII-Reform-Party
Shofar FTP Archive File: orgs/canadian/sirc/heritage-front/HF-VII-Reform-Party
"...Paul Fromm and Ron Gostick who were publicly perceived to be associated
with extremist views. Another letter from the Party also said, apparently,
that Fromm was working with Gamble in the World Anti-Communist League during
the mid-1980s. Gamble was the North American Chairman of the World Anti-
Communist League and was the subject of an article in "This" Magazine. He said
that Don Blenkarn and others in the Conservative Party were also mentioned
as supporters of the League." <END>
Is McVay trying to link "extremist views" to being an anti-communist and a
conservative? You all decide.
Here are archives where Nizkor's Ken McVay and his master B'nai Brith condemn
anti-communists:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/canadian/bc/university-of-victoria/hatred-in-canada/B-Winn.html
Combatting Hatred in Canada
"... It is difficult to record and determine the extent of hate-motivated
activities because they are not systematically collected and reported on.
Organizations such as the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada actively
seek out this information... Most acts of right-wing violence were acts
committed by individuals unaffiliated or not claiming membership with a
particular group, or by groups not wishing to be publicly identified by their
actions. The bulk of actions for which a culprit could be found have been
executed in recent years by... anti-communist nationalists..."
Anti-communism is associated with hate.
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence/hmv-002-00
Shofar FTP Archive File
"In researching the issue of hate-motivated criminal conduct,
this study examined existing criminal law practice in Canada
and ...publications by interested private organizations (e.g., the
League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada... Most acts of right-wing
violence were acts committed by individuals unaffiliated or not claiming
membership with a particular group, ...while the remainder are equally divided
between neo-fascist groups, such as the Western Guard, and anti-communist
nationalists.."
Seems anti-communism is hateful in some people's eyes and they ignore the truth
communism has murdered, enslaved, and tortured far more people than the Nazis or
anyone else! If Nizkor ET AL condemns Nazis then why are they protection of
communists?
http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/decisions/docs/league-e.htm
T.D. 15/92
Decision rendered December 16, 1992
CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS ACT
R.S.C., 1985, c. H-6 (as amended)
HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL
BETWEEN:
LEAGUE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS
B'NAI BRITH CANADA (MIDWEST REGION)
[...]
B. THE COMPLAINTS
These complaints are brought by one individual and three organizations
under subsection 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act. The complainants
are ... The League for Human Rights B'Nai Brith Canada
(Midwest Region)...
Subsection 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act, R.S.C., 1985, c. H-6
(CHRA) provides:
"It is a discriminatory practice for a person or a group of
persons acting in concert to communicate telephonically or to
cause to be so communicated, repeatedly, in whole or in part by
means of the facilities of a telecommunication undertaking within
the legislative authority of Parliament, any matter that is
likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt by
reason of the fact that the person or those persons are
identifiable on the basis of a prohibited ground of
discrimination."
[...]
(1) Themes Which Promote Hatred:
(g) Anti-Communist Ideology
<END>
Thus a Canadian Court equated anti-communism to promotion of hatred and who
brought on the suit? ANSWER: LEAGUE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS B'NAI BRITH CANADA (The
same people who launder exempt donations for Ken McVay's NIZKOR.ORG!!)
http://www.track0.com/cc/articles/022802racism.html
The New Generation of Organised Racialism in Canada
"..the radical-right organizations were.. anti-communist, anti-immigration,
anti-foreign aid, anti-world government, anti-egalitarian, anti-homosexual,
anti-feminist, and anti-abortion... Most of the fringe-right organizations were
also anti-communist..."
Now you're compared to racists if you have anti-communist sentiments. I guess
all the people who escaped from communist countries are racists and hate-mongers
for being anti-communist. I have never read a report about anyone escaping a
"communist worker's utopia" not ever being anti-communist!
http://timelines.ws/20thcent/1953.HTML
"1953 Nov 23, While receiving an award for his contributions to civil rights
from the B'Nai Brith's Anti-Defamation League, President Dwight Eisenhower
spontaneously denounced the tactics of fellow Republican Joseph McCarthy,
asserting the right of everyone to meet his "accuser face to face." A vehement
anti-Communist, Senator McCarthy led a long series of secret and public hearings
on the role of Communism in the American government and society, frequently
making unsubstantiated charges against individual citizens. (HNQ, 6/18/98)"
Where is a Joe McCarthy now that we need him and BTW Joe McCarthy was right
about Hollywood being a communist haven.
http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PublicationsPrint.asp?did=135
American Jewish Committee
Hate and the Internet
by Kenneth S. Stern
Kenneth S. Stern is the American Jewish Committee’s specialist on antisemitism
and extremism.
Introduction
For ten or twenty dollars a month, you can have a potential audience of tens of
millions of people. There was a time when these folks were stuck surreptitiously
putting fliers under your windshield wiper. Now they are taking the same
material and putting it on the Internet." – Ken McVay...
[x] Many militia rumors of secret attack plans by disloyal or foreign elements
were actually recycled John Bircher anti-Communist phobias of the 1960s, given
new life in large part due to the Internet.
<END>
Anti-communism is a phobia? The world is in a lot more peril from communists
than from any people the Nizkor crowd fears in their anti-Nazi phobias.
http://www.pir.org/gw/wacl.txt
"Background: The World Anti-Communist League was founded in 1966 in
Taipei, Taiwan. WACL was conceived as an expansion of the Asian
People's Anti-Communist League, a regional alliance against communism
formed at the request of Chiang Kai-shek at the end of the Korean
War.(1,9,30,35) The Asian People's Anti-Communist League (APACL)
had roots in the China Lobby, a group dedicated to stopping official
international recognition of the Chinese Communist government." <END>
http://www.shianews.com/hi/articles/politics/0000300.php
"The era of McCarthyism stained the 1950’s as an anti-communist witch-hunt that
led to a Senate investigation...It was the result of the Cold War which at that
time, to the Anti-Defamation League, ADL, anyone who was anti-communist was
anti-Semitic."
Hmmmh
MORE TO COME