Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Is Stephen Harper guilty of aiding and abetting war crimes?

0 views
Skip to first unread message

Robert Peffers

unread,
Nov 20, 2009, 12:29:05 PM11/20/09
to
Canadian diplomats ordered to hold back information on Afghan prison
torture: sources
THE CANADIAN PRESS

OTTAWA — Canadian diplomats in Afghanistan were ordered in 2007 to
hold back information in their reports to Ottawa about the handling of
the prisoners, say defence and foreign affairs sources.

The instruction — issued soon after allegations of torture by Afghan
authorities began appearing in public — was aimed at defusing the
explosive human-rights controversy, said sources who spoke on the
condition of anonymity.

There was a fear that graphic reports, even in censored form, could be
uncovered by opposition parties and the media through access-to-
information laws, leading to revelations that would further erode
already-tenuous public support.

The controversy was seen as “detracting from the narrative” the Harper
government was trying to weave around the mission, said one official.

“It was meant to put on happy face,” he added.

The instruction was passed over the telephone by senior officials in
the Privy Council Office and reinforced in follow-up conferences
between Ottawa and Kabul, as well Ottawa and Kandahar, sources said.

Throughout 2006 and in early 2007, diplomat Richard Colvin wrote
several blistering reports that were widely circulated in both the
foreign affairs and defence departments that warned of torture in
Afghan jails.

Colvin will be the centre of attention Wednesday as the House of
Commons special committee on Afghanistan holds its second public
hearing into the country’s handling of prisoners in the Afghan war.

He is expected to testify about when soldiers and diplomats became
aware of the abuse, which even though perpetrated by Afghans, still
implicates Canada in possible violations international law in turning
over prisoners to the Afghans.

Senior members of the government, from Prime Minister Stephen Harper
on down, say they never saw Colvin’s warnings in 2006, and Defence
Minister Peter MacKay promised last month to investigate how far up
the chain those reports went. It’s unclear what, if anything, he has
uncovered.

Liberal defence critic Ujjal Dosanjh said the Conservative government
was not interested in discovering the truth in 2007 and still isn’t.

“This shows that government from its core and highest positions was
engaged in deliberately not wanting to hear, see or speak about
torture allegations,” Dosanjh said late Tuesday.

“Now a deliberate cover up continues.”

The Commons investigation was called after a separate, but more
limited probe, by the independent Military Police Complaints
Commission was sidelined by legal wrangling. The commission’s head,
Peter Tinsley, will also be testifying before MPs on Wednesday.

Colvin was subpoenaed to appear before the watchdog commission’s
inquiry, but federal lawyers tried to get him stricken from a witness
list and imposed a national security gag on much of his testimony.

He won’t face that restriction in Parliament, which grants immunity to
those who testify before committees.
The police commission launched its investigation after two human
rights groups complained that Canadian troops should not be handing
over prisoners to a system that notoriously practises torture.

The agency only decided to hold public hearings in 2008 after the
Foreign Affairs Department refused to hand over documents related to
the controversy. The Canadian military had already co-operated by
handing over thousands of records.

A series of requests by The Canadian Press under access to information
laws sent to the Privy Council Office, Foreign Affairs and Corrections
Canada have been returned with either “no records” found, a handful of
heavily censored documents — or were ignored in violation federal law.

In particular, the correctional service said in 2007 it couldn’t
release records because it was consulting another department involved
in the Afghan file. The documents still have not been released, even
after a complaint to the country’s information commissioner.

18/11/09

http://www.trurodaily.com/index.cfm?sid=303932&sc=287

Mr.Smartypants

unread,
Nov 20, 2009, 2:35:34 PM11/20/09
to
On Nov 20, 10:29 am, Robert Peffers <auldbobpeffer...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Canadian diplomats ordered to hold back information on Afghan prison
> torture: sources
> THE CANADIAN PRESS
>
<snip>


Need any more proof that Harper is the ZIONAZI'S WAR POODLE?

Sharx35

unread,
Nov 20, 2009, 9:51:59 PM11/20/09
to

"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:e7d1257a-034f-4f0a...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

Get professional help. Get it now.

The Doctor

unread,
Nov 21, 2009, 8:04:01 AM11/21/09
to
In article <jBINm.54323$PH1.26148@edtnps82>,

MSP? Time for CSIS/RCMP to intervene in his case.
--
Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
God, Queen and country! Never Satan President Republic! Beware AntiChrist rising!
http://twitter.com/rootnl2k http://www.myspace.com/502748630
Merry Christmas 2009 and Happy New Year 2010

Mr.Smartypants

unread,
Nov 21, 2009, 2:07:54 PM11/21/09
to
On Nov 21, 6:04 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <jBINm.54323$PH1.26148@edtnps82>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Sharx35 <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote in message

> >news:e7d1257a-034f-4f0a...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Nov 20, 10:29 am, Robert Peffers <auldbobpeffer...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Canadian diplomats ordered to hold back information on Afghan prison
> >>> torture: sources
> >>> THE CANADIAN PRESS
>
> >> <snip>
>
> >> Need any more proof that Harper is the ZIONAZI'S WAR POODLE?
>
> >Get professional help. Get it now.
>
> MSP?  Time for CSIS/RCMP to intervene in his case.
> --


That's right. They should arrest Harper et al and charge them for
waging war of aggression against a non-belligerent.

The Doctor

unread,
Nov 21, 2009, 7:13:40 PM11/21/09
to
In article <c3c6cc02-767d-4947...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:

>On Nov 21, 6:04=A0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <jBINm.54323$PH1.26148@edtnps82>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sharx35 <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote in message
>> >news:e7d1257a-034f-4f0a...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com..=

>.
>> >> On Nov 20, 10:29 am, Robert Peffers <auldbobpeffer...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Canadian diplomats ordered to hold back information on Afghan prison
>> >>> torture: sources
>> >>> THE CANADIAN PRESS
>>
>> >> <snip>
>>
>> >> Need any more proof that Harper is the ZIONAZI'S WAR POODLE?
>>
>> >Get professional help. Get it now.
>>
>> MSP? =A0Time for CSIS/RCMP to intervene in his case.

>> --
>
>
>That's right. They should arrest Harper et al and charge them for
>waging war of aggression against a non-belligerent.
>

We were talking about Ron Hamilton certified escaped lunatic.

And the RCMP are still probing the CPC for election irregs.

Canuck57

unread,
Nov 22, 2009, 10:22:02 AM11/22/09
to
The Doctor wrote:
> In article <c3c6cc02-767d-4947...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 21, 6:04=A0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>>> In article <jBINm.54323$PH1.26148@edtnps82>,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sharx35 <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e7d1257a-034f-4f0a...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com..=
>> .
>>>>> On Nov 20, 10:29 am, Robert Peffers <auldbobpeffer...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Canadian diplomats ordered to hold back information on Afghan prison
>>>>>> torture: sources
>>>>>> THE CANADIAN PRESS
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>> Need any more proof that Harper is the ZIONAZI'S WAR POODLE?
>>>> Get professional help. Get it now.
>>> MSP? =A0Time for CSIS/RCMP to intervene in his case.
>>> --
>>
>> That's right. They should arrest Harper et al and charge them for
>> waging war of aggression against a non-belligerent.
>>
>
> We were talking about Ron Hamilton certified escaped lunatic.
>
> And the RCMP are still probing the CPC for election irregs.

And still haven't gotten Goodale (Lib) for stock market insider info, or
the ad-scamers for returning the taxpayers money.

Lets face it, Ottawa is corrupt. It is non-partizan.

John Fleming

unread,
Nov 22, 2009, 6:50:30 PM11/22/09
to
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:13:40 +0000 (UTC), while chained to a
desk in the scriptorium doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
Doctor) wrote:

> $And the RCMP are still probing the CPC for election irregs.

Given you are a party hack, perhaps you can provide a source
for your allegations?

Oh, and on the subject of political party wrongdoing, any
idea when the Liberal Party of Canada is going to return
Adscam money to the Canadian taxpayer?

--

John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada

Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O

Canuck57

unread,
Nov 22, 2009, 8:56:30 PM11/22/09
to
John Fleming wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:13:40 +0000 (UTC), while chained to a
> desk in the scriptorium doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
> Doctor) wrote:
>
>> $And the RCMP are still probing the CPC for election irregs.
>
> Given you are a party hack, perhaps you can provide a source
> for your allegations?
>
> Oh, and on the subject of political party wrongdoing, any
> idea when the Liberal Party of Canada is going to return
> Adscam money to the Canadian taxpayer?

We know the answer to that. No one wants corruption to be prosecuted in
Ottawa. And I mean no one.

Adscan like the others, will never be repaid.

Harpo shut up pretty good when mulroney got caught... and as far as I
know he never paid income tax and penalties on the cash, nor did he ever
return the $2.1 million the Liberals gave him to stop his defamation
suit. Yet in the commision, he admited to it.

Strage but true. A corruption truce between the Libeals and
Conservatives, both corrupt as it gets.

0 new messages