Wainwright Incident
Michael Schlueter
What is the story with this shooting incident in Wainwright, anyone know the
details, the news seems to have precious little on it?
Mijtwo
RCMP shoot female soldier at CFB Wainwright
WAINWRIGHT, Alta. (CP) - RCMP shot a female soldier who was walking around
Canadian Forces Base Wainwright on Friday firing her handgun, CFRN-TV
reported.
CFRN also reported some of the female sergeant's shots were aimed at people.
A spokesman for the base said no one else was hurt.
"All I can tell you is that there's been a person shot on base," said Capt.
Gord Howse. "It was a military member and the base itself is pretty shaken
up over the fact that one of our people was involved in a shooting."
He said the incident didn't involve a military training operation.
"It happened by the military police shack (guard house)," he said.
CFRN said military police tried to calm the woman down but RCMP officers
were eventually called for help.
RCMP refused Friday to comment on its involvement in the shooting.
"That's still under investigation," said a tight-lipped Cpl. Peter Nobles.
"I can't confirm or deny that."
Nobles said the officer was transported to the University of Alberta
hospital and was in stable condition.
Howse did not expect any more information would be released until Saturday.
CFB Wainwright is 200 kilometres southeast of Edmonton.
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Allen
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Cheers,
Allen
Jon Ryder
our MP's in Wainwright carry pistols any more?
Gunner
installation in a small Alberta community. It would stand to reason
that the MPs/RCMP assist each other when it is required. A month ago,
the school in the town of Wx burnt to the ground. The LFWA TC fire
department responded because the town needed help. Mutual support is
not just a military attribute.
Cheers,
Paul Morgan
>RCMP probably became involved because Wainwright is a small military
>installation in a small Alberta community. It would stand to reason
>that the MPs/RCMP assist each other when it is required. A month ago,
>the school in the town of Wx burnt to the ground. The LFWA TC fire
>department responded because the town needed help. Mutual support is
>not just a military attribute.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jon Ryder wrote:
And can you imagine CBC's reporting if an MP had fired the shot?
hosejockey982
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NEWS October 21, 2001
Soldier faces eight charges
Weapon recovered after sergeant shot by RCMP not military issue, says
spokesman
By ANDREA WIEBE -- Staff Writer
A female instructor at the Canadian Forces Base in Wainwright faces a raft
of charges including attempted murder after she was shot by RCMP, police
said yesterday.
Sgt. Lynda Berthe Barrette, 44, was released from the University of Alberta
hospital into RCMP custody after a confrontation with RCMP officers and
military police Friday afternoon.
Authorities were in contact with Barrette for about an hour before she was
shot, said RCMP Cpl. Peter Nobles.
"She did have a .38-special revolver on her person," he said.
"I can't comment on whether she was firing and, if she was, how many
times."
RCMP were called to the military training base Friday around 3 p.m. when a
soldier was spotted with a weapon.
"The initial complaint came in as a distraught person who was in possession
of a firearm, and we responded," Nobles said.
One press report said an armed woman was firing a gun in the direction of
people on the base, and refused to drop the gun when ordered to do so by
police.
A spokesman for the Wainwright base said Barrette was an instructor with
one of the three companies on the base, though he wasn't sure what area she
taught in or how long she'd been employed there.
There are about 400 military, civilian and military-student personnel at
the base, said Capt. Gord Howse.
"The members here are saddened that it happened to one of our own, and
we'll support her in whatever way we can," he said.
There will be no change to Barrette's job status with the military until
all court proceedings have concluded, Howse said.
Howse could not say where Barrette would have obtained the weapon she was
allegedly carrying during the incident.
"All weapons that are military weapons are secured in military lockup. It
wouldn't have been her military weapon - she wouldn't have had one."
Barrette is scheduled to appear in a Wainwright courtroom on Thursday for a
bail hearing, RCMP said. She faces eight charges, including attempted
murder, knowingly uttering a death threat, mischief, and several weapons
charges including careless use of a restricted weapon
sten_sterling
distraught at the communication barrier as well as being posted to an LFWA
tasking. This is hearsay, but fairly reliable.
CDS
kinsella
French/English issue created and presented as "reliable". We have enough
troubles without people making new ones, or are you just trying to stir up
the pot?
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sten_sterling
inflammatory about what I said. Simply put she had difficulty with English
grew increasingly frustrated at the lack of support and well, the rest is in
the paper. If you find that inflammatory or "stirring the pot" get over it.
The only French/English issue here is a very normal one similar to when an
English speaker who may not have a great grasp of French is seconded to a
French training area or unit he/she may grow frustrated at the Language
barrier as well. Don't assume that I'm trying to create an issue. Re-read my
post and identify the "anti-anything" statement for me, I'm curious where it
is.
CDS
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Carter Lee
>
> If it's hearsay then please keep it to yourself. Last thing we need is a
> French/English issue created and presented as "reliable".
I believe it is hearsay because he was not there to observe it first
hand, that's what hearsay usually is. He considers the person whom he
heard say it 'reliable', I take that to mean that he is not likely to
lie or spread rumour. Just what the hell is wrong with that?
We have enough
> troubles without people making new ones, or are you just trying to stir up
> the pot?
Just what 'trouble' do you suppose he is trying to make, trouble between
french and english Canadians? If that is what you think maybe you ought
to step back and consider what he said. The lady had a language
problem. For whatever reason she could not handle it and freaked out.
Exactly what pot do you think is being stirred?
Actually I think you are the one stirring the pot.
Carter
sten_sterling
Fozzz
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sten_sterling
special. . . no wonder she didn't hit anyone, hell you'd be lucky to shoot
yourself with one!!!!
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sten_sterling
museum, I hope I didn't offend anyone working in Archives, lord knows we
have enough troubles without stirring THAT pot either
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Carter Lee
>
> Anyone ever figure out where she managed to get the weapon from?
I'm sure the police know that by now but AFAIK they have not said. It
was reported that it was not a military weapon. It is not difficult BTW
to get a gun, the difficulty is registering it. :-)
Carter
Fozzz
experience, but I thought they were a bit tricky to pick up lying around.
Rifles and shotguns are much more prevalent, especially in Wainwright, but
pistols are a bit harder to come by. Completely dissimilar to, well, most
of the US anyways.
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Carter Lee
>
> It's not difficult to get a pistol in Canada? I can't speak from
> experience, but I thought they were a bit tricky to pick up lying around.
> Rifles and shotguns are much more prevalent, especially in Wainwright, but
> pistols are a bit harder to come by. Completely dissimilar to, well, most
> of the US anyways.
You have to jump through many government hoops to get one legally,
otherwise it is not difficult.
Carter
Fozzz
> You have to jump through many government hoops to get one legally,
> otherwise it is not difficult.
Having never bought one illegally I have no idea. Got any examples? Or are
you hoarding? ;)
Rick Collins
don't know that from personal experience, but I do know people who
have facilitated such things in the past, and have no reason to
believe they wouldn't do so again.
Carter Lee
No I am not hoarding but neither am I going to explain, by way of
examples in this medium, how one goes about procuring a weapon illegally
in Canada. It is not difficult, crooks, many of whom are not too smart,
do it all the time. I know the subject has been beaten to death in
usenet but Canada's new (relatively) firearms legislation concentrates
far too much on the registration of legally owned guns and far too
little on preventing their procurement illegally.
Carter
Carter Lee
I believe it would take far less than a week in an urban centre, in fact
in places such as East Vancouver, Toronto or Montreal overnight service
is more likely.
Carter
Fozzz
> No I am not hoarding but neither am I going to explain, by way of
> examples in this medium, how one goes about procuring a weapon illegally
> in Canada. It is not difficult, crooks, many of whom are not too smart,
> do it all the time. I know the subject has been beaten to death in
> usenet but Canada's new (relatively) firearms legislation concentrates
> far too much on the registration of legally owned guns and far too
> little on preventing their procurement illegally.
Carter
The wee :) on the end suggests a bit of tongue in cheek on my part. I'm sure
if I were back in Van or Montreal, and I associated with 'that' sort of
demographic, I could maybe get my hands on a firearm with a bit of looking.
However, if I were in, say, Chicago, where they have the record of
destroying over 400,000 illegal firearms in a 10 year epriod, I'd say my
chances are a bit higher. Thats one city that has destroyed more firearms
than the CF owns.
The bit that has me a bit on the confused side is how this person would up
on a course in Wainwright with a pistol to start with. Lots of wierd
decisons were made, but if someone wanders the streets of Wainwright with a
pistol they were more than likely a bit on the unbalanced side to start
with.
Toodles
Carter Lee
>
> "Carter Lee" <cr...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
> > No I am not hoarding but neither am I going to explain, by way of
> > examples in this medium, how one goes about procuring a weapon illegally
> > in Canada. It is not difficult, crooks, many of whom are not too smart,
> > do it all the time. I know the subject has been beaten to death in
> > usenet but Canada's new (relatively) firearms legislation concentrates
> > far too much on the registration of legally owned guns and far too
> > little on preventing their procurement illegally.
>
> Carter
>
> The wee :) on the end suggests a bit of tongue in cheek on my part.
I know Fozz. Sorry if I sounded overly serious.
I'm sure
> if I were back in Van or Montreal, and I associated with 'that' sort of
> demographic, I could maybe get my hands on a firearm with a bit of looking.
Yep, just a bit.
> However, if I were in, say, Chicago, where they have the record of
> destroying over 400,000 illegal firearms in a 10 year epriod, I'd say my
> chances are a bit higher.
Absolutely no doubt of that.
Thats one city that has destroyed more firearms
> than the CF owns.
...and has a far larger population.
> The bit that has me a bit on the confused side is how this person would up
> on a course in Wainwright with a pistol to start with.
Actually she was posted there as an instructor. Probably brought all of
her F&E with her. :-)
Lots of wierd
> decisons were made, but if someone wanders the streets of Wainwright with a
> pistol they were more than likely a bit on the unbalanced side to start
> with.
Yes I would suggest that's exactly what she is, not a criminal.
Carter
Craig
I don't think the Hells Angels or the Banditos buy their guns at the local
gun shop , do you ?
--
Craig
Montreal, Quebec
Canada
>
>
Nomad
In THIS case, I think F & E means:
F & E = Firearms (and) Extra ammo!
Nomad
Fozzz
in it for em....
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Terry Bendell
backgrounds...
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Fozzz
about flexible work hours? Benefits and bonus? Stock options? The list
goes on and on :)
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Terry Bendell
You could always shop around the other MC Clubs and get the best offer...
:^)
Terry
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Rick Collins
> I believe it would take far less than a week in an urban centre, in
fact
> in places such as East Vancouver, Toronto or Montreal overnight
service
> is more likely.
Yes. But it would take me a few days to scrape up the cash ....
retired, you know.
Carter Lee
Yeah, bummer.
Carter
Carter Lee
LOL!
Carter
Carter Lee
>
> Not a whole whack of Hells Angels or whatzits in the CF. Not enough money
> in it for em....
It's not the money that attracts them, it's the training and the
potential opportunity to get weapons.
Carter
Fozzz
> It's not the money that attracts them, it's the training and the
> potential opportunity to get weapons.
On a more serious note it may also be the potential to smuggle large
quantities of various bits and substances into the country, as well....
Carter Lee
Of course, that too.
Carter
Gerry
request would be filled within a couple of hours.
Gerry
> Carter