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Nomad

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Mar 16, 2005, 7:29:32 PM3/16/05
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Hey, I see CFPAS is now auth for download at home now! Must have been a tad
too many complaints...

http://www.dnd.ca/hr/cfpas/engraph/home_e.asp#down
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Not a Re@l N@me

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Mar 17, 2005, 4:21:08 PM3/17/05
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Can I install and use CFPAS on my home PC to prepare PERs?

From the Director Information Management Security (Dir IM Secur) website:
"http://img.mil.ca/DGIMO/DIMSecur/FAQ/faq_e.asp"

NO. In accordance with the Government Security Policy and the Privacy Act,
DND has a responsibility to adequately protect personal information, such as
the contents of a PER.
Because privately-owned IS (such as home PCs) are beyond the powers of DND
to control, it cannot be adequately assured that the information is properly
protected. Therefore, it is the Department's position that PERs are to be
prepared using DND-owned IS or other GoC-owned IS approved to process, at a
minimum, Protected A information.

PERs and PDRs may be prepared in your home but you must use a DND-owned
computer provided for that purpose. When working at home, you must take the
necessary precautions to protect the information being handled, accessed or
viewed by unauthorized personnel (children, spouses, or visitors).


Jason Quilliam

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Mar 17, 2005, 6:00:24 PM3/17/05
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Apparently new word has come out, in that you can do so, as long as no
identifiable information is used - ie you can do up your points, narrative,
etc --> just don't ID Cpl Bloggins. I still wouldn't do it.

JTQ


Nomad

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Mar 18, 2005, 10:05:25 AM3/18/05
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Yes, you now can. See the link in my original NG e-mail or go to this link
to (read the instructions and) download.
http://www.dnd.ca/hr/cfpas/engraph/home_e.asp#down
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'ole

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Mar 18, 2005, 10:00:30 PM3/18/05
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I would propose that it has been, is, and always will be "ok" to process
PDRs/PERs , quote, "at home on one's personal PC" as long as the mbrs
personal details are only inserted at the end, at work, on one's DND PC.

For years, prior to CFPAS, I spent hours (per PER) working on them at
home on my Commadore 64 (who has the time during working hours ? ( ;o> )
The idea being that the only thing on floppy, were the textual [narrative]
portions to copy-n-paste, then and only then, consolidate (at work) with the
mbrs personal details, just prior to finalizing the thing for submission
(signatures).

A. Until such time as the mbrs personal details (SN, Name) are inserted,
it's a piece of paper, unclas at best, and as such, certainly not subject to
any of the policies or acts your have referred to.

B. DND/CF, has for years in agreement with Microsoft and in the
provision of CFPAS (on floppies or cd) allowed/allows for the installation
of MS Office suite, and CPAS "at home"; in the former, with the condition
that the preponderance of "work" with these software tools, was just that;
work.

[1] While there were intervening polices that forbade processing
PERs "at home", they were IMHO, not well thought out; an overreaction, to
something that is and should be very, very simple.

C. The standard disclaimer that any/all IS medium travelling between
one's home PC and work PC, be virus scanned on both ends, yadaa...yadaa.

* A PER form, on paper or in electronic medium, that does not incl -- SN's,
names or reference dates --, but is otherwise completed, is not a PER. Plain
and simple. As such, it is not therfore subj to any privacy protection.

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Nomad

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Mar 19, 2005, 11:01:22 AM3/19/05
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"'ole" <ole-i...@home.com> wrote in message
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> I would propose that it has been, is, and always will be "ok" to process
> PDRs/PERs , quote, "at home on one's personal PC" as long as the mbrs
> personal details are only inserted at the end, at work, on one's DND PC.

I agree, but let's call a spade a spade...many pers inserted _all_ the
identifying info when working on PERs at home because it was easier and
faster. The only problem was when spouses (M or F) knew who the drafter was
writing on, couldn't maintain some form of confidentiality and spoke out of
school.

> A. Until such time as the mbrs personal details (SN, Name) are inserted,
> it's a piece of paper, unclas at best, and as such, certainly not subject
to
> any of the policies or acts your have referred to.

Agreed, but see my comment above

> B. DND/CF, has for years in agreement with Microsoft and in the
> provision of CFPAS (on floppies or cd) allowed/allows for the installation
> of MS Office suite, and CPAS "at home"; in the former, with the condition
> that the preponderance of "work" with these software tools, was just that;
> work.

I used to have documentation stating this fact (more as a CYA move on my
part), however over the years (and moves) have misplaced it. This agreement
used to cover not only the home use of MS Office, but also the installation
and use of McAfee Antivirus software as well, the ol' "can't use the
software at the same time, at the same place" methodology. Try finding this
documentation now and you'll be searching for the infamous needle. Many
pers will verbally tell you, but few (read _no one_) will or can provide the
doc to back it up. Let's face it, without that "backup", ie: something to
substantiate those _mere words_, MS Office can no more be on your home PC
(w/o a license) than say...Adobe Acrobat. Hey, if you ever do come across
this "use" documentation, plse...let us all know.

> A PER form, on paper or in electronic medium, that does not incl -- SN's,
> names or reference dates --, but is otherwise completed, is not a PER.
Plain
> and simple. As such, it is not therfore subj to any privacy protection.

Great in theory but...see my initial comment above.

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Lisa

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Mar 19, 2005, 11:23:06 AM3/19/05
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There is a page on the DIN that has the details of site licensing for the
more common applications such as the Operating System, Anti Virus, Office
Suite etc. I had the bookmark but lost it on posting unfortunantly. If you
start at the D IM homepage you might be able to browse to it. I admit it
wasn't easy the first time to find it so good luck.

I suggest you try contacting your unit or base ISSO (Info Sys Security
Officer). They will either be able to provide the link or at least verify
the contents. I work in the Comms field and we provide copies of both
McAffee's and Office to any member who requests a copy. Since we strictly
control all other software then its a safe bet that the site licensing for
home is still in effect.


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Nomad

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Mar 20, 2005, 11:18:14 AM3/20/05
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Thx for ur reply. I too work in the Comms side of the house. In my
searching experience, no one can (not will, but "can") provide proof
positive of pers having the auth to install and use MS Office, McAfee etc.
on one's home PC...this includes the Base Help Desk, CommSqn, ISSO etc. I
know it's done and accepted, but me...if asked..."I'd" want CYA
documentation. I'd sure like you to post the DIN link or documentation here
if you ever find it though.
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Dave

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Mar 20, 2005, 11:50:38 AM3/20/05
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I know I've seen it firsthand - and it's available on the DIN not far off
the Baseline home page. I'll look for it tomorrow.

Dave

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Nomad

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Mar 20, 2005, 1:19:18 PM3/20/05
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Dave

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Mar 21, 2005, 3:34:35 PM3/21/05
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"Nomad" <doesn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thx for ur reply. I too work in the Comms side of the house. In my
> searching experience, no one can (not will, but "can") provide proof
> positive of pers having the auth to install and use MS Office, McAfee etc.
> on one's home PC...this includes the Base Help Desk, CommSqn, ISSO etc. I
> know it's done and accepted, but me...if asked..."I'd" want CYA
> documentation. I'd sure like you to post the DIN link or documentation
> here
> if you ever find it though.
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> Nomad

I knew I'd seen it before. The documentation is located at (DWAN address)
http://img.mil.ca/oa/antivirus.htm

The authority is listed as coming from DDCEI 2 - Director Distributed
Computing Engineering and Integration (cripes, will that even fit on a
business card??), part of Information Management Group.

Text of the bulletin follows:

Anti-Virus and MS Office Home Use
[ 01 Mar 2005 ]
What is considered 'Home Use' for Microsoft Office and Symantec anti-virus
software?

Anti-Virus

Current departmental licensing for Symantec Antivirus software (Symantec
AntiVirus Home Use CD) includes a provision allowing for the installation on
a home computer owned by a CF member or a DND civilian under the following
condition:

Employees who conduct DND/CF work from their home or remote location, for
the purpose of employment related activities.

Conditions of Use

In order not to be in violation of the corporate licensing agreement, the
service provider will provide the application for installation at the
offsite location to CF Members and DND Civilian personnel who have a
requirement based on the definitions above. The software will be returned to
the service provider as soon as possible following the installation. Records
will be kept of the locations where the software is installed. When no
longer required or when the user in no longer employed by DND/CF, the
software must be removed from the offsite computer. The service provider
must be informed that the software has been removed and record the action.

MS Office

Current departmental licensing for Microsoft Office software includes a
provision allowing for the installation on a home computer owned by a CF
member or a DND civilian under the following conditions:

· Employees using a home computer for the purpose of employment related
activity.

Conditions of Use

In order not to be in violation of the corporate licensing agreement, the
software configuration manager will provide the application for installation
at the offsite location to CF Members and DND Civilian personnel who have a
requirement based on the definitions above. The software will be returned to
the configuration manager as soon as possible following the installation.
Records will be kept of the locations where the software is installed. When
no longer required or when the user in no longer employed by DND/CF, the
software must be removed from the offsite computer. The software
configuration manager must be informed that the software has been removed
and record the action.
Author: DDCEI 2-4


Lisa

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Mar 21, 2005, 4:27:19 PM3/21/05
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Here is another DWAN Link

http://img.mil.ca/im-it/home_use/home_use_e.htm


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Nomad

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Mar 22, 2005, 11:03:37 PM3/22/05
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...and thanks go out to you aswell Lisa.
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Nomad

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Mar 22, 2005, 11:03:13 PM3/22/05
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Great Dave...Thanks.
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