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Daryl S. Kabatoff

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Low-Lead Fuel Contains 4 Times The Amount of Lead!!!

I quote below from "The Cessna 150 & 152", in brief the older model
Cessna 150 used an engine that was engineered to use a truly low lead fuel
called 80/87, but this fuel was replaced with "Low Lead" fuel called 100LL
that actually contains 4 times the amount of lead. The engines in the newer
Cessna 152 are engineered to use this fuel containing the higher lead
content. But this fuel containing the higher lead content results in engine
damage, the lead quickly pollutes the oil, resulting in more frequent oil
changes. Oil is being changed more frequently, and the oil that is being
removed from the internal combustion engines is far more toxic to the
environment. In 1988 I said that the environmental destruction is on
purpose, that people in positions of power are implementing policies that
are purposely destructive to the earth. I said that statement together with
noting "The Egyptian obelisk is a representation of a penis, Satanists
worship the penis because they believe it to have a god-like force through
it's reproductive role, but Shawn knows that your penis is closer to your
anus than to God." I said that the obelisks at The Whitehouse, The Vatican,
New York, London, in front of Saskatoon City Hall and on church roofs are
representations of penises, and that the penis poster-poles on Broadway Ave.
in Saskatoon are exactly that. And together with these statements, I said
that the churches are censoring Scriptural references to cannibalism, and
that many of the tens of thousands of missing people in North America have
been eaten. Protestants and Catholics were upset with my words and lobbied
my abusive parents to shut me up, and I was arrested and given to a Hindu
psychiatrist who began the many years of psychiatric torture. Over the years
a number of different Hindu and non-Hindu psychiatrists tortured me.
Eventually Dr. Gene Marcoux came along and administered the most horrid
combination of drugs, making me more frantic than ever to flee the country.
Once Dr. Gene Marcoux bluntly told me that my posters were crazy, and that
if he hears of me pasting any more posters in Saskatoon, that he would have
me arrested and returned to him for additional "treatment". Please keep this
in mind, in my attempts to abide by such directives, I believe it best to
comply and instead just post on the usenet instead. Do note that decades
ago, U of S Engineering students made ultralight cars that managed to travel
many hundreds of miles on a single gallon of gas, but laws prevent their
manufacture. Government funding and laws are not being directed to
facilitate the construction of vehicles that are environmentally friendly,
and I believe it is because the politicians work for Satan, and that Satan
uses politicians to promote policies to assist the destruction of the
planet. They tortured me for years, but the greatest horror is that you
people didn't care to assist me when they were torturing me, and you don't
care now that the arrests and torture have finally ceased. Maybe the lead in
the environment prevents your hearts and brains from feeling compassion for
anything other than your traditions.

Quoting from "The Cessna 150 & 152" Second Edition by Bill Clarke copyright
1993 by Tab Books, pages 86 through 88:

AVIATION FUELS AND RELATED PROBLEMS

Airplane owners have recently been voicing questions and concerns about
the limited availability of 80/87 grade fuel, and the use of higher leaded
fuel in engines rated for grade 80/87 fuel.
A quick look around the country indicates that fuel suppliers are not
making 80/87 grade aviation fuel available. The suppliers claim there is too
little profit in 80/87 manufacture and supply. They also state that the new
100LL avgas is a replacement for the 80/87. The trend is toward a complete
phaseout of 80/87-grade aviation fuel.

AVGAS COLOR CODING

Avgas is color-coded to prevent incorrect refueling:
* Red is 80 octane containing .50ml lead/gas
* Blue is 100 octane containing 2ml lead/gas
* Green is 100 octane containing 3ml lead/gas

It's interesting to note that the Blue 100, also referred to as 100LL (LL
for low lead), contains four times the amount of lead as the 80/87 octane
fuel. This low-lead fuel will gradually become the only fuel available to
small piston airplane engines. It must be used as a replacement fuel
whenever 80/87 is not available. Continuous use of the 100LL fuel as a
replacement for 80/87 will result in increased engine deposits in the
combustion chamber and in the engine oil, and subsequent increased spark
plug maintenance and more frequent oil changes. The frequency of spark plug
maintenance and oil drain periods may be controlled to some extent by the
type of operation.

REDUCING 100LL PROBLEMS - FREQUENT OIL CHANGES

Many of the engine deposits formed by the use of the higer leaded 100LL
fuel are in suspension with the engine oil, yet are not removed by a
full-flow filter. When large amounts of these contaminants in the oil reach
a high temperature area of the engine, the contaminants can be baked out.
This baking out, and the subsequent deposits left in such areas as the
exhaust valve guides, can cause sticking valves. Left unattended, sticking
values can cause extensive engine damage. Extensive may be alternately
spelled e-x-p-e-n-s-i-v-e.
When using the higher leaded fuels (100LL), the recommended oil drain
period of 50 hours should not be extended, and if valve sticking is noted,
all valve guides should be reamed and the oil drain period reduced. It is
not uncommon for oil changes to be made on a 25-hour basis.
<end quote>


-Daryl S. Kabatoff, Box 7134 Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada S7K 4J1


Steven P. McNicoll

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> Low-Lead Fuel Contains 4 Times The Amount of Lead!!!
>
> I quote below from "The Cessna 150 & 152", in brief the older model
> Cessna 150 used an engine that was engineered to use a truly low lead
> fuel called 80/87, but this fuel was replaced with "Low Lead" fuel called
> 100LL that actually contains 4 times the amount of lead.
>

100LL avgas did not replace 80/87 avgas, it replaced 100/130 avgas. 100/130
had twice the lead content of 100LL, or eight times the lead of 80/87.


Daryl S. Kabatoff

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So the 80/87 avgas was replaced by 100/130 avgas, which contains
8 times the amount of lead, and then the lead content was halved to
4 times the amount with the introduction of the 100LL avgas. -Daryl


Steven P. McNicoll

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> So the 80/87 avgas was replaced by 100/130 avgas, which contains
> 8 times the amount of lead, and then the lead content was halved to
> 4 times the amount with the introduction of the 100LL avgas. -Daryl
>

No. 100/130 was replaced by 100LL some 25 years ago or so. 80/87 continued
to be produced. It may still be in production, I have not heard that it was
discontinued entirely.


Jim Weir

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That is true...sort of.

The spec actually reads that 80 could contain UP TO 0.5 ml/gal of tetraethyl
lead, and that 100LL could contain UP TO 2.0 ml/gal of tel.

The UP TO is the important point. The fact of the matter is that 80 generally
contains zero to a trace of lead, but 100LL contains nearly the whole permitted
amount just to get the octane up to the spec limit.

Don't you find the mixing of the measuring systems interesting -- milliliters
per gallon?

Jim


"Steven P. McNicoll" <ronca...@nospamearthlink.net>
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->
->"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
->news:%BF7c.125388$Up2.118900@pd7tw1no...
->>
->> Low-Lead Fuel Contains 4 Times The Amount of Lead!!!
->>
->> I quote below from "The Cessna 150 & 152", in brief the older model
->> Cessna 150 used an engine that was engineered to use a truly low lead
->> fuel called 80/87, but this fuel was replaced with "Low Lead" fuel called
->> 100LL that actually contains 4 times the amount of lead.
->>
->
->100LL avgas did not replace 80/87 avgas, it replaced 100/130 avgas. 100/130
->had twice the lead content of 100LL, or eight times the lead of 80/87.
->

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com j...@rst-engr.com

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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> "Steven P. McNicoll" <ronca...@nospamearthlink.net>
> shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
>
> ->
> ->"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> ->news:%BF7c.125388$Up2.118900@pd7tw1no...
> ->>
> ->> Low-Lead Fuel Contains 4 Times The Amount of Lead!!!
> ->>
> ->> I quote below from "The Cessna 150 & 152", in brief the older model
> ->> Cessna 150 used an engine that was engineered to use a truly low lead
> ->> fuel called 80/87, but this fuel was replaced with "Low Lead" fuel
called
> ->> 100LL that actually contains 4 times the amount of lead.
> ->>
> ->
> ->100LL avgas did not replace 80/87 avgas, it replaced 100/130 avgas.
100/130
> ->had twice the lead content of 100LL, or eight times the lead of 80/87.
> ->
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com j...@rst-engr.com

"Jim Weir" <j...@rst-engr.com> wrote in message
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> That is true...sort of.
>
> The spec actually reads that 80 could contain UP TO 0.5 ml/gal of
tetraethyl
> lead, and that 100LL could contain UP TO 2.0 ml/gal of tel.
>
> The UP TO is the important point. The fact of the matter is that 80
generally
> contains zero to a trace of lead, but 100LL contains nearly the whole
permitted
> amount just to get the octane up to the spec limit.
>
> Don't you find the mixing of the measuring systems interesting --
milliliters
> per gallon?
>
> Jim

Our politicians provide promises of making the fuels cleaner,
what they have done and allowed to be done is to increase the
levels of pollutants in the fuels, and then attempt to hide
this by calling fuel heavily laden with lead as "Low Lead".
But the people who can afford to drive a gas guzzling car
or own a plane are not likely to complain too loudly, for
their incomes largely depends upon their silence.
-Daryl S. Kabatoff


Thomas

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> Low-Lead Fuel Contains 4 Times The Amount of Lead!!!
>
> I quote below from "The Cessna 150 & 152", in brief the older model
> Cessna 150 used an engine that was engineered to use a truly low lead fuel


<<<snipped a lot of psycho crap from Shawn "pedophile-boy" Kabatoff>>>


The following (courtesy of Waxy.org) is sort of an unofficial "FAQ"
explaining the psychotic nonsense posted to Usenet by Shawn Daryl
Kabatoff AKA "Dar", AKA "Probababbilities". And now AKA "marcia and
me".

WARNING: Read below before even thinking about responding to this
twit.

http://www.waxy.org/archive/2002/05/21/dar_kaba.shtml#000643


Usenet has the tendency to provide a public forum for those who would
normally be scribbling in a closet. For example, take Daryl "Shawn"
Kabatoff. For the last few years, he's methodically gathered
"statistics" from various sources, ranging from local newspaper
obituary pages to the food court of the Saskatoon Midtown Plaza mall.
With all the raw data he's collected, he's attempting to prove daily
that our full names are in "mathematical harmony" with our birthdays.
His rants normally focus on a single individual he's met or read
about, starting with calculations related to their birthdate and full
names, blending in whatever other personal information about their
family members, spouses, birthplace, and career he's been able to
glean. From there, it descends into a mix of numerology, religious
zealotry, and personal torment. I've never seen anything like it.
With all the prime numbers, Fibonacci sequences and biblical
references, it's like reading the notebooks of Maximillian Cohen and
John Nash combined. Unsurprisingly, several posts unfold to reveal a
history of painful mental illness. If you have some time, take a look.
I've detailed his posting history and a several sample posts below.

Usenet Posting History:

January 27, 1999 to July 5, 2000 as Cat...@home.com

December 9, 2000 to May 4, 2001 as s.kab...@sk.sympatico.ca

Oct 30, 2001 to Oct 31, 2001 as kaba...@the.link.ca

January 20, 2002 to April 17, 2002 as s_kab...@hotmail.com (original
posts have been

removed from Google Groups archive)

April 26, 2002 to Present as dar_ka...@hotmail.com

Selected Posts:
Tessa Lynne Smith
Dastageer Sakhizai and Helen Smith
Brett David Maki
Andrew Meredith Cotton
Kathryn Lee Hipperson
Amanda Dawn Newton
Mona Marie Etcheverry
Tony Peter Nuspl
Lisa Charlene McMillan
Grant Allyn Wood

Comments
scarier still is that saskatoon is my hometown, though not my current
residence. and every single place he's mentioned in his posts (most
notably nervous harold's and the roastary) were either places i've
been (as it's a small city of 200K) or hangouts, ie. the two places
mentioned. chances are i could email some friends back home and find
out if they know of him, they (my friends that is) being of the
broadway-centred slacker ilk. myself, too, until i got out of there.
eh, anyways. thought it odd to see all this. midtown mall. i ate my
meals there, whilst waiting several days in line for star wars episode
one, at the theatre across the street.
posted by andy raad on May 22, 2002 06:20 PM

Fascinating. It's like he's trying to take chaos and bind it into
whatever rules he can find, religious, logical and otherwise. Numbers
and math have a reliable pattern, something that can always be proven
to true or false. People and religion do not. It reminds me of Darren
Aronofsky's movie Pi. It's the story of an paraniod genius who is
trying to find a pattern in Pi. A group that takes interest in his
work is convinced that the existence of Pi, a number whose existence
can be proven but no quantified, is proof of the existence of God.
Kabatoff's hunt for patterns in something as random as name selection
is a way to reconcile his deeply logical thought process with his
conflicting religious views.
posted by matt on May 23, 2002 11:19 AM

Exactly. I probably shouldn't have, but I e-mailed Daryl yesterday,
asking him if he'd be willing to create a numerological analysis for
me. I also asked him if he had seen either Pi or A Beautiful Mind, and
what he thought of them. If he replies, I'll be sure to post it.
posted by Andy Baio on May 23, 2002 11:24 AM

I baked many pumpkin pies for Shawn (he likes pumpkin pies). I rubbed
pumpkin pie all over my breasts for him, and my breasts turned orange.
I am a pumpkin for Shawn.
posted by Trisha Blondie on July 24, 2002 10:41 PM

Um, that's swell. So, you're in love with him?
posted by Andy Baio on July 25, 2002 07:10 AM

Shawn once went to a funeral for a Jehovah Witness that shot himself
and the lemon tarts were very bad, they were not only sour but were
rubbery as well. Shawn said that the guy was some kind of Jehovah
Witness prophet, he saw in advance that the lemon tarts at his funeral
were to be very very bad, and so he shot himself. Shawn said that he
never ate pumpkin pie at a funeral but would like to some day. Shawn
likes pumpkin pie and so I have been practicing to make very good
pumpkin pies.
posted by Trisha Blondie on July 25, 2002 02:49 PM

Shawn said that the lemon tarts were sour, bitter and rubbery.
posted by Trisha Blondie on July 30, 2002 12:32 AM

I don't think this guy takes notes. I think he has Total Recall, and
it has driven him insane...
posted by Todd Smith on December 26, 2002 11:00 AM

Oh... I almost forgot... I didnt spend thousands of dollars a day
tormenting Daryl... We got a deal on tormenting that fiscal year, it
only came to about 37cents a day....
posted by Dr Claw on December 30, 2002 01:56 AM

Mr. Kabatoff attempts to portray himself as a victim, but in fact he
is a violent predatory pedophile who is well known to his local law
enforcement. In his post to multiple newsgroups with the subject
"Collecting Mail For The Coming Anti-Christ", he encourages mothers to
send him photos of their naked daughters. Mr Kabatoff explains, "I
personally did not want photographs being mailed to (the coming
Ant-Christ) that were of underage children unless the parent was
signing consent." He is banned from virtually all the shopping malls
in his community because he stalks young people and sexually harasses
them. He has an extensive arrest record which includes sexual
molestation charges. He's been hospitalized in mental institutions
several times because he likes to accost "nubile cuties." He writes
about his contact with young girls in many posts. Search newsgroup
archives for posts by him containing the word "nubile". As part of his
harrassment, he provides personal details in a public forum, such as
the real names of real children, in these and other posts. About one
girl he met at a mall, he writes, "I wanted Callie in my bed or I
wanted her and her sister dead."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Daryl+Shawn+Kabatoff+dead+or+in+my+bed&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=asqm35%24tjq5j%241%40ID-136124.news.dfncis.de&rnu
He not only curses children and prays for their death in his posts, he
also enjoys attending the funerals of young people: "And so, since
nubile sweeties are found in greatest abundance at the funerals of
high school students, then it is the funerals of high school students
that make the very very best funerals, especially if there is food...
I stuff my face (and my pockets) with all the good food and look at
all the pretty nubile sweeties and have the time of my life..
.http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Daryl+Shawn+Kabatoff+nubile+sex&hl=en&l
r=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=LfXN8.63042%24R53.25142039%40twister.socal.rr.
com&rnum=1
Many of his posts are sent to alt.teens.advice. However, he liberally
spams, floods and crossposts his off-topic threatening and offensive
missives to countless newsgroups. Some people HAVE problems and some
folks ARE problems. Don't dismiss Mr. Kabatoff as a harmless nut. When
he sends these posts to any newgroup, please help by reporting him to
his ISP. Thanks.
posted by nospam on January 5, 2003 04:39 AM

I knew of him when I was attending the University of Saskatchewan.
He'd hang out in the Arts computer lab and all you'd see is screens of
numbers racing by on his laptop. I have an original copy of his
"Collecting Mail for the Coming Anti-Christ" pamphlet, and have seen
him be hauled away by campus security on more than one occasion. My
friends and I refer to him as "Crazy Number Man".
posted by Mr. Somebody on April 10, 2003 11:09 AM

I've been posting to (and about) Shawn for over two years with big
gaps in between. He has seen Pi and didn't like it and didn't think it
resembled him at all. (Wrong, it fits him to a tee) He doesn't have
total recall and has stated that he travels with a lap top to notate
items. Also, he uses "cut n' paste" a lot if you read all the way
through his ramblings. He is anti-social as shown by his angry
statements towards those who, by his own admission, have been kind
(but not kind enough) to him. Still, he's intelligent and seems to be
able to "take a joke" on occassion. That's where I came in.
posted by Gambol on May 19, 2003 02:22


ALOHA

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stan clark

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It's the thought that counts. The EPA spent billions and years on
protecting us from lead and probably forgot along the way whether they
were supposed to reduce or increase it. The FAA has the same problem
about aviation safety. Half are trying to increase it and the other
half are just bumping for promotion. They should do like private
industry such as the SPAM Company did with their SPAM LITE - it is
only 90% fat and nobody knows what the other 10% is. As long as it
tastes good, who cares?

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"stan clark" <st...@could.com> wrote in message
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The lead in the fuel is polluting the oil, the dirty oil
results in less protection for the engine, increased wear
on the engine, and premature engine failure. The oil
needs to be changed more frequently, and the discarded
oil is more toxic than would be if no lead was added to
the fuel. Safety is compromised on several levels.
Saying that the environomental destruction is on
purpose was certainly one of the reasons why
politicians had me arrested and tortured. But as
long as you can afford to buy yourself a new
plane, then you care little if the oil has to be
changed a little more frequently. God-damned
assholes. I lost summer after summer to
psychiatric torture, people cared little and sat
back in silence when they were doing this to me,
and now you people sit back in silence and allow
James Takayama to repeatedly call me a pedophile.
May God slide your Cessna's up your assholes.
-Daryl S. Kabatoff


Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"Thomas" <islen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

James Takayama posted libel against me using the name
"nospam", now he frequently quotes this libel using
the name "Thomas." -Daryl S. Kabatoff
HALOHA

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

See Hebrews 4, here is New Testament Scripture
in chapter 4 telling us to remember to honor God's 4th
Commandment. The pre-incarnate Jesus created
heaven and earth and provided us with the Ten
Commandments. Then He came to earth in human form
and abided by His Ten Commandments. Then He was
crucified on the 6th day of the week, RESTED in the
tomb on the 7th day of the week, then rose on the first
day of the week to resume His ministry (His WORK).
He rose on a Sunday to resume His work while the
filthy churches teach you that His rising on a Sunday
changes His day of rest to Sunday.

Let us strive to enter that rest and honor what God
desires that we honor rather than continue to strive
to hold onto the things that our are important to
our friends, family and ourselves. -Daryl S. Kabatoff

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


running with scissors

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jealous of people who fly are you ?

prat.

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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I guess I am a little jealous of people who never
received years of psychiatric torture. And I'm
a little upset as the people who had the financial
means to assist me flee from the brutal cycle
of psychiatric torture simply didn't care. And
I guess that I'm a little jealous of the people who
took my Doukhobor ancestor's land, the people
who took the land were often able to afford toys
like airplanes. -Daryl


AbsolutelyCertain

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Where in the world do these people come from?


Jim Weir

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An even more serious question: Why are they allowed to breed?

Jim

->> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
->
->Where in the world do these people come from?

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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You dare to associate your real name to abusive
comments against me such the one here?
-Daryl S. Kabatoff


Steven P. McNicoll

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> I guess I am a little jealous of people who never
> received years of psychiatric torture. And I'm
> a little upset as the people who had the financial
> means to assist me flee from the brutal cycle
> of psychiatric torture simply didn't care. And
> I guess that I'm a little jealous of the people who
> took my Doukhobor ancestor's land, the people
> who took the land were often able to afford toys
> like airplanes. -Daryl
>

So, you experienced years of psychiatric torture. That explains it.


Daryl S. Kabatoff

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Be careful, wind is manipulated by prayer,
a gust at an inopportune time can slam you
and your craft hard onto a runway. If your
words are nothing more than abusive wind,
expect more of the same. -Daryl S. Kabatoff


Steven P. McNicoll

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> Be careful, wind is manipulated by prayer,
> a gust at an inopportune time can slam you
> and your craft hard onto a runway. If your
> words are nothing more than abusive wind,
> expect more of the same. -Daryl S. Kabatoff
>

You are flying the airways of life with a couple of props feathered.


Daryl S. Kabatoff

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The lead in your fuel is fogging your brain.


Steven P. McNicoll

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> The lead in your fuel is fogging your brain.
>

You're not able to make that judgment.


MC

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" wrote:

> > ->> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > ->
> > ->Where in the world do these people come from?
> > ->

> You dare to associate your real name to abusive


> comments against me such the one here?
> -Daryl S. Kabatoff

Ahh yes, I see the pattern.
Make insane comments, then threaten responders.

AbsolutelyCertain

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"MC" <m...@non.existant.place> wrote in message
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Well, that would just make him a Republican.


running with scissors

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<FrN7c.129210$Up2.27587@pd7tw1no>...


psyciatric torture. that explains why you are a fucking whack job then.

lunatic.

running with scissors

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<oDO7c.883324$ts4.260040@pd7tw3no>...


bwahahhahhahahhahahhahaha
not even a loon, just a plain old mental case !

running with scissors

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<8KO7c.129952$Up2.87473@pd7tw1no>...

bwahahahahhahhahhahhahahhahhahahahh

lunatic.

running with scissors

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"Steven P. McNicoll" <ronca...@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message news:<tPO7c.3900$HP....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

and non linear.

running with scissors

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<%UO7c.883529$X%5.339368@pd7tw2no>...

and whats your excuse? a partial lobotomy ?

lunatic.

Ralph Nesbitt

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IMHO he needs to meet "John Griffin", self appointed "Dance Caller,of Alt
Conspiracy fame.
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type
Posting From ADA


Ralph Nesbitt

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"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Give him credit for honestly stating up front he has issue & what his
problems/hang ups are.

For this I give him credit. Consider those that qualify as "Lunatics" in one
way or another but refuse to admit their mental state. Examples; Ralphie,
Splappy, Stan, John, Griffin, etc.

Ralph Nesbitt

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At least he is aware of/owns up to his issues. There are many who pass
through the NG's with a greater number of issues that refuse to recognize
they have issues/problems IMHO.

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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People who worship Satan put lead in your fuel, and your
only real concern is keeping your God-damned mouths shut
about it so that you can continue to advance in your careers
and earn more money, so that you can continue to purchase
more fuel and faster planes. The real lunatics are those people
who know there is a problem but keep their mouths shut,
for fear of persecution. Many of you have your jobs because
you have adopted your parent's religions, and you chose to
keep your mouths shut about traditions that are in opposition
to Commandments for fear of loss of earthly rewards. I'd
rather be me, tortured for years after daring to state that the
Egyptian obelisks on the church roofs of representations
of penises, than to be you attending those churches. I'd
rather be me, tortured for years after daring to state that
the environmental destruction is on purpose, than to be
you and not caring that agencies of evil are putting lead into
the fuel. I'd rather be me, tortured for years after daring to
state that that many of the thousands of missing people
in North America have been eaten, than to be you dressing
your ignorant kids up as ghosts and witches. I'd rather be
me, tortured by primarily Hindu psychiatrists and begging
in futility for assistance to flee the country and break free
of the horror os psychiatric abuse, than be a compassionless
God-damned turd like you. -Daryl S. Kabatoff

###########################################

Low-Lead Fuel Contains 4 Times The Amount of Lead!!!

I quote below from "The Cessna 150 & 152", in brief the older model
Cessna 150 used an engine that was engineered to use a truly low lead fuel

called 80/87, but this fuel was replaced with "Low Lead" fuel called 100LL
that actually contains 4 times the amount of lead. The engines in the newer
Cessna 152 are engineered to use this fuel containing the higher lead
content. But this fuel containing the higher lead content results in engine
damage, the lead quickly pollutes the oil, resulting in more frequent oil
changes. Oil is being changed more frequently, and the oil that is being
removed from the internal combustion engines is far more toxic to the
environment. In 1988 I said that the environmental destruction is on
purpose, that people in positions of power are implementing policies that
are purposely destructive to the earth. I said that statement together with
noting "The Egyptian obelisk is a representation of a penis, Satanists
worship the penis because they believe it to have a god-like force through
it's reproductive role, but Shawn knows that your penis is closer to your
anus than to God." I said that the obelisks at The Whitehouse, The Vatican,
New York, London, in front of Saskatoon City Hall and on church roofs are
representations of penises, and that the penis poster-poles on Broadway Ave.
in Saskatoon are exactly that. And together with these statements, I said
that the churches are censoring Scriptural references to cannibalism, and
that many of the tens of thousands of missing people in North America have
been eaten. Protestants and Catholics were upset with my words and lobbied
my abusive parents to shut me up, and I was arrested and given to a Hindu
psychiatrist who began the many years of psychiatric torture. Over the years
a number of different Hindu and non-Hindu psychiatrists tortured me.
Eventually Dr. Gene Marcoux came along and administered the most horrid
combination of drugs, making me more frantic than ever to flee the country.
Once Dr. Gene Marcoux bluntly told me that my posters were crazy, and that
if he hears of me pasting any more posters in Saskatoon, that he would have
me arrested and returned to him for additional "treatment". Please keep this
in mind, in my attempts to abide by such directives, I believe it best to
comply and instead just post on the usenet instead. Do note that decades
ago, U of S Engineering students made ultralight cars that managed to travel
many hundreds of miles on a single gallon of gas, but laws prevent their
manufacture. Government funding and laws are not being directed to
facilitate the construction of vehicles that are environmentally friendly,
and I believe it is because the politicians work for Satan, and that Satan
uses politicians to promote policies to assist the destruction of the
planet. They tortured me for years, but the greatest horror is that you
people didn't care to assist me when they were torturing me, and you don't
care now that the arrests and torture have finally ceased. Maybe the lead in
the environment prevents your hearts and brains from feeling compassion for
anything other than your traditions.

Quoting from "The Cessna 150 & 152" Second Edition by Bill Clarke copyright
1993 by Tab Books, pages 86 through 88:

AVIATION FUELS AND RELATED PROBLEMS

Airplane owners have recently been voicing questions and concerns about
the limited availability of 80/87 grade fuel, and the use of higher leaded
fuel in engines rated for grade 80/87 fuel.
A quick look around the country indicates that fuel suppliers are not
making 80/87 grade aviation fuel available. The suppliers claim there is too
little profit in 80/87 manufacture and supply. They also state that the new
100LL avgas is a replacement for the 80/87. The trend is toward a complete
phaseout of 80/87-grade aviation fuel.

AVGAS COLOR CODING

Avgas is color-coded to prevent incorrect refueling:
* Red is 80 octane containing .50ml lead/gas
* Blue is 100 octane containing 2ml lead/gas
* Green is 100 octane containing 3ml lead/gas

It's interesting to note that the Blue 100, also referred to as 100LL (LL
for low lead), contains four times the amount of lead as the 80/87 octane
fuel. This low-lead fuel will gradually become the only fuel available to
small piston airplane engines. It must be used as a replacement fuel
whenever 80/87 is not available. Continuous use of the 100LL fuel as a
replacement for 80/87 will result in increased engine deposits in the
combustion chamber and in the engine oil, and subsequent increased spark
plug maintenance and more frequent oil changes. The frequency of spark plug
maintenance and oil drain periods may be controlled to some extent by the
type of operation.

REDUCING 100LL PROBLEMS - FREQUENT OIL CHANGES

Many of the engine deposits formed by the use of the higer leaded 100LL
fuel are in suspension with the engine oil, yet are not removed by a
full-flow filter. When large amounts of these contaminants in the oil reach
a high temperature area of the engine, the contaminants can be baked out.
This baking out, and the subsequent deposits left in such areas as the
exhaust valve guides, can cause sticking valves. Left unattended, sticking
values can cause extensive engine damage. Extensive may be alternately
spelled e-x-p-e-n-s-i-v-e.
When using the higher leaded fuels (100LL), the recommended oil drain
period of 50 hours should not be extended, and if valve sticking is noted,
all valve guides should be reamed and the oil drain period reduced. It is
not uncommon for oil changes to be made on a 25-hour basis.
<end quote>

Do note that my internet provider allows me to post material to nine
different groups and I have carefully chosen these nine groups, believing
them to be the most appropriate.
-Daryl S. Kabatoff, Box 7134 Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada S7K 4J1


Pooh Bear

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" wrote:

> People who worship Satan put lead in your fuel

So true. He's a good mate of mine - so much more fun than that damn spoilsport
God chap !


RELIGIOUS SURVEY

God would like to thank you for your belief and patronage. In order to better
serve your needs, [S]He asks that you take a few moments to answer the following
questions.

1. How did you find out about your deity?

__ Newspaper
__ Bible
__ Torah
__ Television
__ Book of Mormon
__ Divine Inspiration
__ Dead Sea Scrolls
__ My Mama Done Told Me
__ Near Death Experience
__ Near Life Experience
__ National Public Radio
__ Tabloid
__ Burning Shrubbery
__ Other (specify): _____________

2. Which model deity did you acquire?

__ Jehovah
__ Jesus
__ Allah
__ Krishna
__ Buddha
__ Father, Son, & Holy Ghost [Trinity Pak]
__ Brahma, Vishnu, & Siva [Trimurti Pak]
__ Mawu/Olorun & Obatala [Vodun Loa Pak]
__ Zeus and entourage [Olympus Pak]
__ Odin and entourage [Valhalla Pak]
__ Satan
__ Gaia/Mother Earth/Mother Nature
__ God 1.0a (Hairy Thunderer)
__ God 1.0b (Cosmic Muffin)
__ None of the above, I was taken in by a false god

3. Did your God come to you undamaged, with all parts in good working order
and with no obvious breakage or missing attributes?

__ Yes __ No

If no, please describe the problems you initially encountered here.
Please indicate all that apply:

__ Not eternal
__ Finite in space/Does not occupy or inhabit the entire cosmos
__ Not omniscient
__ Not omnipotent
__ Not infinitely plastic (incapable of being all things to all creations)
__ Permits sex outside of marriage
__ Prohibits sex outside of marriage
__ Makes mistakes
__ Makes or permits bad things to happen to good people
__ Makes or permits good things to happen to bad people
__ Looks after life other than that on Earth
__ When beseeched, doesn't stay beseeched
__ Requires burnt offerings
__ Requires virgin sacrifices

4. What factors were relevant in your decision to acquire a deity?
Please check all that apply.

__ Indoctrinated by parents
__ Needed a reason to live
__ Indoctrinated by society
__ Needed focus in whom to despise
__ Needed focus in whom to love
__ Imaginary friend grew up
__ Hate to think for myself
__ Wanted to meet girls/boys in church
__ Fear of death
__ Wanted to piss off parents
__ Wanted to please parents
__ Needed a day away from school or work
__ Desperate need for certainty
__ Like organ music
__ Need to feel morally superior
__ Thought Jerry Falwell was cool
__ Thought there had to be something other than Jerry Falwell
__ Sh_t was falling out of the sky
__ My shrubbery caught fire and told me to do it

5. Have you ever worshipped a deity before? If so, which false god were you
fooled by?
Please check all that apply.

__ Baal
__ The Almighty Dollar
__ Left Wing Liberalism
__ The Radical Right
__ Amon Ra
__ Beelzebub
__ Bill Gates
__ Barney The Big Purple Dinosaur
__ The Great Spirit
__ The Great Pumpkin
__ The Sun
__ The Moon
__ The Force
__ Cindy Crawford
__ Elvis
__ A burning shrub
__ Psychiatry
__ Other: ________________

6. Are you currently using any other source of inspiration in addition to
God?
Please check all that apply.

__ Tarot
__ Lottery
__ Astrology
__ Television
__ Fortune cookies
__ Ann Landers
__ Psychic Friends Network
__ Dianetics
__ Palmistry
__ Playboy and/or Playgirl
__ Self-help books
__ Sex, drugs, and rock & roll
__ Biorhythms
__ Alcohol
__ Marijuana
__ Bill Clinton
__ Tea Leaves
__ EST
__ Amway
__ CompuServe
__ Mantras
__ Jimmy Swaggert
__ Crystals
__ Human sacrifice
__ Pyramids
__ Wandering around a desert
__ Insurance policies
__ Burning shrubbery
__ Barney T.B.P.D.
__ Barney Fife
__ Other:_____________________
__ None

7. God reputedly employs a limited degree of Divine Intervention to
preserve a balanced level of felt presence and blind faith. Which would you
prefer? Circle one below:

a. More Divine Intervention
b. Less Divine Intervention
c. Current level of Divine Intervention is just right
d. Don't know.
e. What's Divine Intervention?


8. God also reputedly attempts to maintain a balanced level of disasters
and miracles. Please rate on a scale of 1 - 5 your opinion of the handling of
the following (1 = unsatisfactory, 5 = excellent):

a. Disasters:

1 2 3 4 5 flood
1 2 3 4 5 famine
1 2 3 4 5 earthquake
1 2 3 4 5 war & holocausts
1 2 3 4 5 pestilence
1 2 3 4 5 plague
1 2 3 4 5 Spam
1 2 3 4 5 AOL

b. Miracles:

1 2 3 4 5 rescues
1 2 3 4 5 spontaneous remissions
1 2 3 4 5 stars hovering over tiny town & previously unknown hamlets
1 2 3 4 5 crying statues
1 2 3 4 5 water changing to wine
1 2 3 4 5 walking on water
1 2 3 4 5 coincidence of any sort
1 2 3 4 5 getting any sex whatsoever


9. From time to time God reputedly makes available the names and addresses
of His followers and devotees to selected reputedly divine personages who
provide quality services and perform intercessions
in His behalf. Are you interested in a compilation of listed offerings?

__ Yes, please deluge me with religious zealots for the benefit of my own mortal
soul

__ No, I do not wish to be inundated by religious fanatics clamouring for my
money


10. Do you have any additional comments or suggestions for improving the
quality of God's services?

(Attach an additional sheet if necessary)


Amen


Thank you, Sarah ;-)

Graham

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

People who worship Satan put lead in your fuel, and your
only real concern is keeping your God-damned mouths shut
about it so that you can continue to advance in your careers
and earn more money, so that you can continue to purchase
more fuel and faster planes. The real lunatics are those people
who know there is a problem but keep their mouths shut,
for fear of persecution. Many of you have your jobs because
you have adopted your parent's religions, and you chose to
keep your mouths shut about traditions that are in opposition
to Commandments for fear of loss of earthly rewards. I'd
rather be me, tortured for years after daring to state that the
Egyptian obelisks on the church roofs of representations
of penises, than to be you attending those churches. I'd
rather be me, tortured for years after daring to state that
the environmental destruction is on purpose, than to be
you and not caring that agencies of evil are putting lead into
the fuel. I'd rather be me, tortured for years after daring to
state that that many of the thousands of missing people
in North America have been eaten, than to be you dressing
your ignorant kids up as ghosts and witches. I'd rather be
me, tortured by primarily Hindu psychiatrists and begging
in futility for assistance to flee the country and break free

of the horror of psychiatric abuse, than be a compassionless

Pooh Bear

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" wrote:

> I'd
> rather be me, tortured for years after daring to state that the
> Egyptian obelisks on the church roofs of representations
> of penises, than to be you attending those churches.

I was *so* hoping you would repeat that one. So it's not just in the Google
archives - it's for real !

You truly believe Churches have penises ?

< boggle >

Graham

Ralph Nesbitt

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Snip>

>
> Do note that my internet provider allows me to post material to nine
> different groups and I have carefully chosen these nine groups, believing
> them to be the most appropriate.
> -Daryl S. Kabatoff, Box 7134 Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada S7K 4J1
>
You have issues/problems no doubt, the validity of which I will not address.
To address/personally attack me in such a "Vitriolic" manner after giving
you the "Benefit of Doubt" does nothing to ensure continued civil discourse
with me/others IMHO.

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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You were saying that I have openly admitted problems and hang ups,
and that this should be to my credit. My problems are largely people
like you labeling me as having mental problems. In 1988 I stated that
the environmental destruction was on purpose and was soon after
arrested and tortured, and the people that I appealed to for help to
escape from the brutality said that I had problems and hang ups.
Maybe the people who do not care that there is lead being placed into
the fuel are those that have mental problems... maybe those who
care not that I was tortured for years after pointing out purposeful
environmental destruction are the ones with mental problems.
Maybe those people who defend psychiatric violence against
others are the ones with mental problems. Ya, you came running
to my defense, but I took exception to the manner with which
you did. -Daryl S. Kabatoff


Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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And if you pilots ever take up the cause of ridding your
fuel of lead, you would only do so in order to prevent
damage to your precious engines. -Daryl S. Kabatoff


AbsolutelyCertain

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"Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > > For this I give him credit. Consider those that qualify as "Lunatics"
in
> > one
> > > way or another but refuse to admit their mental state. Examples;
> Ralphie,
> > > Splappy, Stan, John, Griffin, etc.
> > > Ralph Nesbitt
> > > Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type
> > > Posting From ADA
> > >
> > People who worship Satan put lead in your fuel, and your
> > only real concern is keeping your God-damned mouths shut
> > about it so that you can continue to advance in your careers
> > and earn more money, so that you can continue to purchase
> > more fuel and faster planes.

Actually, people who cared about octane ratings put the lead in the fuel.
Indirectly, then, people who cared about higher compression ratios had a
hand in it.

Later, people who cared about lead poisoning got the lead taken out of
automotive fuels.

Meanwhile, general aviation, principal user of the fuels you are ranting
about, remains a rather insignificant force in the grand scheme of air
pollution.

I do not worship Satan, by the way. I do think that Dana Carvey sends him
up rather well, though.

BTW, is it true that Canada is being discontinued for lack of interest?
Just wondering.


running with scissors

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"Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<nz88c.10000$mh....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>...


despite the teasing of the usual suspect loons, daryl it seems does
have some mental health problems which it seems could present a danger
to the public if not addressed. John griffin is merely a stupid cunt.
splappy, stan and ralphie are court jesters for society.

Daryl's bad wiring in his head, not unlike that of a toaster repaired
by tarver, is something that he cannot control and is likely at some
point to present a danger to society. John Griffin, Splappy, stan and
ralphie are only a danger to themselves.

link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2065940.stm

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"AbsolutelyCertain" <eas...@entertained.net> wrote in message
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> Actually, people who cared about octane ratings put the lead in the fuel.
> Indirectly, then, people who cared about higher compression ratios had a
> hand in it.
>
> Later, people who cared about lead poisoning got the lead taken out of
> automotive fuels.
>
> Meanwhile, general aviation, principal user of the fuels you are ranting
> about, remains a rather insignificant force in the grand scheme of air
> pollution.
>
> I do not worship Satan, by the way. I do think that Dana Carvey sends him
> up rather well, though.
>
> BTW, is it true that Canada is being discontinued for lack of interest?
> Just wondering.
>

The point I am trying to make, is not just aviation fuel
but that fuel in general, has become more toxic due to
additional additives. Governments only provide lip
service about cleaning up the environment, their
policies are carefully chosen to pollute, for they work
for Satan, and Satan desires to destroy the earth
(Revelation 12:12). Do you turn trees into decorated
idols and then claim to not worship Satan? I'm sure
that there is a great many of traditions that you hold
dear that are in direct conflict with God's Commandments.
-Daryl S. Kabatoff


Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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It sounds to me like you are a danger to me and are
trying to remove my right to speak, and I have to
ask, if you manage to get me arrested and chemically
lobotomized again, who will you set your sites on
next? It sounds to me like you are a danger to
society. On May 31st 1995 James De Witt violently
assaulted me at a Seventh Day Adventist church and
then I was arrested and tortured for daring to cause
trouble for him and his church, why don't you try
the same, come and beat the crap out of me and then
try to get me arrested again. Come and beat the crap
out of me and then tell everybody that I am a danger
to society. You are like John Savard in that you cite
other people's crimes as a reason to have me arrested
and medicated (tortured). -Daryl S. Kabatoff


AbsolutelyCertain

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> "AbsolutelyCertain" <eas...@entertained.net> wrote in message
> news:c3siu6$ceu$0...@pita.alt.net...
>
> > Actually, people who cared about octane ratings put the lead in the
fuel.
> > Indirectly, then, people who cared about higher compression ratios had a
> > hand in it.
> >
> > Later, people who cared about lead poisoning got the lead taken out of
> > automotive fuels.
> >
> > Meanwhile, general aviation, principal user of the fuels you are ranting
> > about, remains a rather insignificant force in the grand scheme of air
> > pollution.
> >
> > I do not worship Satan, by the way. I do think that Dana Carvey sends
him
> > up rather well, though.
> >
> > BTW, is it true that Canada is being discontinued for lack of interest?
> > Just wondering.
> >
>
> The point I am trying to make, is not just aviation fuel
> but that fuel in general, has become more toxic due to
> additional additives. Governments only provide lip
> service about cleaning up the environment, their
> policies are carefully chosen to pollute, for they work
> for Satan, and Satan desires to destroy the earth
> (Revelation 12:12).

Yes, of course. Well, have a nice day now.

(Note to self: Sakatchewan is off the travel list this year ....)

running with scissors

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"Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<z%h8c.10051$Zj3....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>...

ralph

just running the name Daryl S. Kabatoff through a search engine
provides a lot of information on the mental state of the poor guy. it
seems the man has been battling with schitzophrenia and psycotic
behaviour. it is indeed sad that the wiring is bad, much like a
toaster as repaired by Tarver and his mental state is something that
he is not in control of.

As we can all appreciate, regulr posters to ADA become adept at
diagnosing mental health problems. Daryl is indeed Schitzophrenic
with Psycotic Tendancies.

There was a case in 1992 in the UK where a person, christopher clunis,
of a similar mental state was socially interacting under the UK's care
in the community programme, (basically, non violent, non threatening
people are turned out in the community rather than meet the meet the
cost of social welfare) who stated several times that he wanted to be
sectioned (admitted to mental institution) over his fears that he
would cause an innocent person physical harm. unfortunately his
requests were not met and he remained in social interation.

he unfortunately "flipped" one day in 1992 and stabbed an innocent
man, johnathan zito, through the eye at finsbury park tube, killing
him. his wife of three months at the time, jayne zito, continues to
campaign over the handling of the mentally ill in society.

from the background, and current posts of Daryl S. Kabatoff, we can
determine that unlike persons of the John Griffin, John Tarver,
Dick(head) Eastman, Slade Farney, Bill Mulchay, TWA Stan and
Aero-Ralphie who are more of threat to themselves with an item as
simple as an elastic band, Daryl is ticking clock, who when the bell
goes off, will likely be the subject of a homicide investigation.

running with scissors

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so we can add paranoia to schitzophenia and psycotic tendancies then?

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"AbsolutelyCertain" <eas...@entertained.net> wrote in message
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You are absolutely certain that purposeful pollution
is humorous? Again, eventually you may care about
the lead added to your fuel, but my contention is that
you will only eventually care because of the damage
it does to your engine through impairing the ability
of the oil to lubricate the parts.
(Note to self: People who can afford to own a plane
are not really concerned about the added costs of
additional oil changes, nor of the toxicity of the
expended oil, when lead is added to the fuel.) -Daryl


running with scissors

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<juj8c.144026$Up2.127420@pd7tw1no>...

well heres a deal for you, as yes engines are pretty precious as they
keep aircraft in the air and they are pretty expensive to overhaul.

if say 10 of the readers elect to run their engines on lead free fuel,
will *you* pay the cost of the repairs and reduced TBO's on their
engines ?

no fuck it, just one person running their engines? and bear in mind
that say a TGISO-540 as on a C-421 will cost around 50k US per engine
to overhaul *if there is no internal damage*

running with scissors

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"AbsolutelyCertain" <eas...@entertained.net> wrote in message news:<c3siu6$ceu$0...@pita.alt.net>...


canada is always being discounted !

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Killing an estimated 100 million Christians in an attempt to force
the changing of God's Sabbath to Sunday, is not an adequate
reason to change God's Sabbath to Sunday. Capping many thousands
of churches with Egyptian obelisks (representations of penises)
is not an adequate reason to put a penis on the roof of your church.
Just because all your relatives turn trees into decorated idols
doesn't mean you should, and just because other people label
me with a mental illness doesn't mean you should. Try to find
other ways to argue, claiming that people have a mental illness
is a really bad substitution for logical arguments. And please
don't cite other people's crimes as a reason to have me arrested
and chemically lobotomized. Thanking you in advance.
-Daryl S. Kabatoff


Scott M. Kozel

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aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com (running with scissors) wrote:
>
> "Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message n
> > "Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > > "Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > "running with scissors" <aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > > > > "Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > "Jim Weir" <j...@rst-engr.com> wrote in message

Paranoid Schizophrenia with a Psychotic Imbalance


> There was a case in 1992 in the UK where a person, christopher clunis,
> of a similar mental state was socially interacting under the UK's care
> in the community programme, (basically, non violent, non threatening
> people are turned out in the community rather than meet the meet the
> cost of social welfare) who stated several times that he wanted to be
> sectioned (admitted to mental institution) over his fears that he
> would cause an innocent person physical harm. unfortunately his
> requests were not met and he remained in social interation.
>
> he unfortunately "flipped" one day in 1992 and stabbed an innocent
> man, johnathan zito, through the eye at finsbury park tube, killing
> him. his wife of three months at the time, jayne zito, continues to
> campaign over the handling of the mentally ill in society.
>
> from the background, and current posts of Daryl S. Kabatoff, we can
> determine that unlike persons of the John Griffin, John Tarver,
> Dick(head) Eastman, Slade Farney, Bill Mulchay, TWA Stan and
> Aero-Ralphie who are more of threat to themselves with an item as
> simple as an elastic band, Daryl is ticking clock, who when the bell
> goes off, will likely be the subject of a homicide investigation.


--

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:40621D86...@attbi.com...
I'm sure if anybody expressed the belief that Satan
is real and that his followers are purposely trying
to destroy the earth, then you would tag the
individual with such a label. You really should try
to find other ways to argue your point of view.
-Daryl


> > There was a case in 1992 in the UK where a person, christopher clunis,
> > of a similar mental state was socially interacting under the UK's care
> > in the community programme, (basically, non violent, non threatening
> > people are turned out in the community rather than meet the meet the
> > cost of social welfare) who stated several times that he wanted to be
> > sectioned (admitted to mental institution) over his fears that he
> > would cause an innocent person physical harm. unfortunately his
> > requests were not met and he remained in social interation.
> >
> > he unfortunately "flipped" one day in 1992 and stabbed an innocent
> > man, johnathan zito, through the eye at finsbury park tube, killing
> > him. his wife of three months at the time, jayne zito, continues to
> > campaign over the handling of the mentally ill in society.
> >
> > from the background, and current posts of Daryl S. Kabatoff, we can
> > determine that unlike persons of the John Griffin, John Tarver,
> > Dick(head) Eastman, Slade Farney, Bill Mulchay, TWA Stan and
> > Aero-Ralphie who are more of threat to themselves with an item as
> > simple as an elastic band, Daryl is ticking clock, who when the bell
> > goes off, will likely be the subject of a homicide investigation.
>

It is so ignorant to cite other people's crimes as a reason
to have me arrested and chemically lobotomized. -Daryl


Pooh Bear

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Mar 24, 2004, 8:48:54 PM3/24/04
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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" wrote:

> The point I am trying to make, is not just aviation fuel
> but that fuel in general, has become more toxic due to
> additional additives.

Well, actually, you may have noticed that most petroleum fuel sold now is
actually lead free.

The reason for its continued inclusion in aero fuels is that the engines were
designed so long ago that they need that lead for LUBRICATION - believe or not -
of the valves.

Part of the problem is that new combustion engine designs in aero use are rare
due to the cost of certification.

Similarly, 'vintage autos' require leaded fuel. I don't know about N America -
but the UK made provision for a small qty of leaded fuel to be made available
for their use at one time. Possibly, different additives can now do the job
instead.

As for toxic fuel - I don't know the N American situation but here in Europe
there is increasing use of LPG / LNG as a fuel which is pure hydrocarbon. We
also have low sulphur petroleum fuels too.

Us satanists may care more about the environment than you imagine you know !

Graham

Scott M. Kozel

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Mar 24, 2004, 10:43:35 PM3/24/04
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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> "Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@attbi.com> wrote

The Bible says that, and plenty of people believe the Bible.
That doesn't make them sick, though.

running with scissors

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Mar 24, 2004, 11:07:14 PM3/24/04
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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<xln8c.900912$X%5.552608@pd7tw2no>...

uh huh ! a real danger to your fragile paranoid and schitzophrenic
world.

and I have to
> ask, if you manage to get me arrested and chemically
> lobotomized again,

sorry to bust your bubble, but you dont even make my priority list.

who will you set your sites on
> next?

slade farney, john griffin and definately dick eastman. tarver is
just a clown.

It sounds to me like you are a danger to
> society.

wouldnt disagree. you are the looney tune so mental health board has
more interest in you than me.

On May 31st 1995 James De Witt violently
> assaulted me at a Seventh Day Adventist church and
> then I was arrested and tortured for daring to cause
> trouble for him and his church,

you seem to have a list of persecutors. ever wondered why? perhaps
its because you are as mad as a box of frogs.

why don't you try
> the same, come and beat the crap out of me and then
> try to get me arrested again.

why bother. you do it yourself better than anyone else.

Come and beat the crap
> out of me and then tell everybody that I am a danger
> to society.

again, why bother, you a better job of it than anyone else could do.

You are like John Savard in that you cite
> other people's crimes as a reason to have me arrested
> and medicated (tortured).

nope, you are the one making statements. you wanted tessa dead
remember?

-Daryl S. Kabatoff

get help fruitcake.

running with scissors

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Mar 24, 2004, 11:08:13 PM3/24/04
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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<KNo8c.899776$ts4.344161@pd7tw3no>...

point proven.

get help fruitcake.

running with scissors

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<jep8c.899914$ts4.794449@pd7tw3no>...

your Satan is real.. his name is Bertie the Bunyip. you met him yet ?

running with scissors

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<jep8c.899914$ts4.794449@pd7tw3no>...

people dont get dragged off the street and lobotomised for shits and
giggles, the reason for your "therapy" is that you are completely hat
stand.

Ralph Nesbitt

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"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Have had to deal with a few that "Went Round The Bend" getting lost.
Fire/Stuff that could go "Boom" never bother me because either is ~
predictable. Dealing with a true "Nut Case" is unpredictable due their
irrationality.

Once had a kid climb a water tower to the lower walk around the tank ~ 150'
up threatening to jump off at night after a "Dust Up" with his parents. I
Climbed the back side, got on top of the water tower rappelled down to ~20'
above him with a quick attach safety harness strapped on me to attach to
him.

I pushed off the side of the water tank, dropped the last ~ 20' appearing
out of no where pinning him to the tank made the 3 connections to strap him
to me then jumped off the side of the tank "Yelling" about half way down,
where I stopped having a "Heart to Heart" with him till he fainted. Got him
safely down. He came to with me standing over him still in full turn out
gear. A police car with a "Back Seat Cage" had pulled up near where we were
at the foot of the water tower. The kid jumped up, ran & got in the back of
the police, closing the doors, locking himself in, screaming "Get him away
from me, He is Crazy".

Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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This is off topic for aviation newsgroups, kindly take this to
the appropriate usenet groups. Thanking you in advance. -Daryl


Ralph Nesbitt

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:kev8c.903098$X%5.632092@pd7tw2no...
Truth is stranger than fiction. The above is a "True War Story" from my ~ 40
year FD/CFR/ARFF Career. This incident occurred at a A/C facility.

Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type
Posted from ADA


Daryl S. Kabatoff

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"Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Dothn't matter how true, take it to an appropriate usenet group,
us aviation buffs don't care to read this tripe. -Daryl


Pooh Bear

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Mar 25, 2004, 9:40:31 AM3/25/04
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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" wrote:

> Dothn't matter how true, take it to an appropriate usenet group,
> us aviation buffs don't care to read this tripe. -Daryl

Aviation buff ?

I doubt you're medically certifiable ( ? ) to be a passeneger let alone being
let anywhere else near the things !

Graham


Pooh Bear

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Mar 25, 2004, 9:42:20 AM3/25/04
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Ralph Nesbitt wrote:

> Have had to deal with a few that "Went Round The Bend" getting lost.
> Fire/Stuff that could go "Boom" never bother me because either is ~
> predictable. Dealing with a true "Nut Case" is unpredictable due their
> irrationality.
>
> Once had a kid climb a water tower to the lower walk around the tank ~ 150'
> up threatening to jump off at night after a "Dust Up" with his parents. I
> Climbed the back side, got on top of the water tower rappelled down to ~20'
> above him with a quick attach safety harness strapped on me to attach to
> him.
>
> I pushed off the side of the water tank, dropped the last ~ 20' appearing
> out of no where pinning him to the tank made the 3 connections to strap him
> to me then jumped off the side of the tank "Yelling" about half way down,
> where I stopped having a "Heart to Heart" with him till he fainted. Got him
> safely down. He came to with me standing over him still in full turn out
> gear. A police car with a "Back Seat Cage" had pulled up near where we were
> at the foot of the water tower. The kid jumped up, ran & got in the back of
> the police, closing the doors, locking himself in, screaming "Get him away
> from me, He is Crazy".

I take my hat off to you ( metaphorically speaking that is )

Regds, Graham

running with scissors

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Mar 25, 2004, 5:00:19 PM3/25/04
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"Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<YNu8c.1870$y6....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>...

i did have sneaking suspicions about you ralph ! *grin*

running with scissors

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<kev8c.903098$X%5.632092@pd7tw2no>...


bwahahahahahahhahahhahahhahahhahhahah

fruitcake

Thomas

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Mar 25, 2004, 5:03:13 PM3/25/04
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Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<4062EF5F...@hotmail.com>...


That would definitely come under the classification of a "gross
understatement." He is "certifiable", in fact has been a resident of
his local Rubber Room Inn and his local correctional institution many,
many times. Let's put it this way, just from what you've read from
this twit-drooler, would you want to spend XXX number hours cooped up
on the same plane as him? Me neither.


Aloha

running with scissors

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Mar 25, 2004, 5:05:40 PM3/25/04
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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<kev8c.903098$X%5.632092@pd7tw2no>...

and your ramblings about your psycologica persecution and churches
having peni is on topic?

fuck off back to the HAHA house looney boy.

running with scissors

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<FFv8c.903328$X%5.517577@pd7tw2no>...

pot, kettle, black. take your pathetic posts to
alt.i.am.a.freak.and.persecuted.for.it
or
alt.churches.have.great.big.sweaty.throbbing.cocks

freak boy.

running with scissors

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"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<FFv8c.903328$X%5.517577@pd7tw2no>...

aviation buff! bwahahahhahhaahhahhahahahaahha

Ralph Nesbitt

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Mar 25, 2004, 10:58:24 PM3/25/04
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At times situations turn our anything but "Laughable". Just a little
exercise to release the tension, make light of a serious situation. Besides,
sometimes having a reputation for bring a little crazy makes people think
twice before messing with you.

I later learned the kids parents would later ask him if he would like to
discuss something with me when he later wanted to disagree with them.
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type.


Ralph Nesbitt

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Well I looked over Jordan,
An what do I See,
Coming for to Carry Me Home,
Six Soul Sisters in a Black El Dorado,,
A Coming for to Carry Me Home,
Swing Low Black El Dorado,
Coming for to Carry Me Home,

Ah Yes, "The Amazing Grace That Has Saved a Wretch Like Me" a time or two.
For that, I say "Thank You Lord for Small Favors".

Pooh Bear

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Ralph Nesbitt wrote:

< snip >

> I later learned the kids parents would later ask him if he would like to
> discuss something with me when he later wanted to disagree with them.

Wicked ! I love it.

Graham :-)

Who is This is

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Apr 10, 2004, 3:08:00 AM4/10/04
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The lead helps seal and lubricant the valves in piston engines. It also
helps prevent 'ping' preignition in the cylinders with higher compression.
If you have a lower compression then you would need more displacement ... a
big engine to produce the same amount of house power in turn burning more
fuel anyway. But instead the yelling at people, read up on engines and
think of some whys to make more efficient engines at 10% atmosphere pressure
or just buy everyone a jet. Also a car engine don't last anywhere as long
as an aircraft engine too, car burn 80% of oil reserves well all of aviation
including airlines only use 1%.

"Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:%Go8c.901102$X%5.482622@pd7tw2no...


>
> "AbsolutelyCertain" <eas...@entertained.net> wrote in message

> news:c3t2pp$8bp$0...@pita.alt.net...


> >
> > "Daryl S. Kabatoff" <dar...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

> > news:gQm8c.900811$X%5.623735@pd7tw2no...


> > > "AbsolutelyCertain" <eas...@entertained.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c3siu6$ceu$0...@pita.alt.net...
> > >

> > > > Actually, people who cared about octane ratings put the lead in the
> > fuel.
> > > > Indirectly, then, people who cared about higher compression ratios
had
> a
> > > > hand in it.
> > > >
> > > > Later, people who cared about lead poisoning got the lead taken out
of
> > > > automotive fuels.
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile, general aviation, principal user of the fuels you are
> ranting
> > > > about, remains a rather insignificant force in the grand scheme of
air
> > > > pollution.
> > > >
> > > > I do not worship Satan, by the way. I do think that Dana Carvey
sends
> > him
> > > > up rather well, though.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, is it true that Canada is being discontinued for lack of
> interest?
> > > > Just wondering.
> > > >
> > >

> > > The point I am trying to make, is not just aviation fuel
> > > but that fuel in general, has become more toxic due to

> > > additional additives. Governments only provide lip
> > > service about cleaning up the environment, their
> > > policies are carefully chosen to pollute, for they work
> > > for Satan, and Satan desires to destroy the earth
> > > (Revelation 12:12).
> >
> > Yes, of course. Well, have a nice day now.
> >
> > (Note to self: Sakatchewan is off the travel list this year ....)
> >
> >
> You are absolutely certain that purposeful pollution
> is humorous? Again, eventually you may care about
> the lead added to your fuel, but my contention is that
> you will only eventually care because of the damage
> it does to your engine through impairing the ability
> of the oil to lubricate the parts.
> (Note to self: People who can afford to own a plane
> are not really concerned about the added costs of
> additional oil changes, nor of the toxicity of the
> expended oil, when lead is added to the fuel.) -Daryl
>
>


Who is This is

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.... or you can hate me and and say that I don't know what I'm thinking
about.
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