Camunda Admin App Usability?

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Melissa Palmer

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Jan 9, 2015, 2:22:24 AM1/9/15
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Hi, 

Does anyone know if there is a plan to improve the usability of the Camunda Admin application at all? 

I'm thinking in terms of things such as setting up authorizations.. for example setting up an authorization against a filter you need to know the ID of a filter which currently can only be retrieved from the DB. 

Thanks
Melissa

Robert Gimbel

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Jan 12, 2015, 7:50:10 AM1/12/15
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Hi Melissa,

currently there are no plans to work on camunda admin. The reason is that we did not get a lot of feedback on the usability of the Admin app so far.

But your feedback might change my mind. Could you be more specific about what you are missing? Is there anything else but the filter issue raised above? Can you prioritize your "wish-list"?

Cheers + Thanks for your feedback!
Robert

Daniel Meyer

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Jan 12, 2015, 7:58:00 AM1/12/15
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Hi Melissa,

authorizations for filters can be created much more easily in the
tasklist. Open the filter edit dialog and have a look at the section
"Authorization":
http://docs.camunda.org/latest/guides/user-guide/#tasklist-filters
If you edit authorizations there, you do not have to know the Id of a
filter.
The authoriations page in camunda Admin is meant as a kind of "advanced"
view.

Regards,
Daniel

Ingo Richtsmeier

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Jan 12, 2015, 3:34:44 PM1/12/15
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Hi Robert,

one customer asked for the possibility to add the members of a group from the group page. 

Kind Regards, Ingo

Melissa Palmer

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Jan 13, 2015, 2:40:50 AM1/13/15
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@Daniel thanks for the reminder/hint that Filter authorizations can be edited in the tasklist app. I was looking at this more from a support user within production type of situation. It would start to make life very cumbersome for them to have to edit a) edit application auths in admin app b) edit filter auths in tasklist app c) "when in place" edit process auths elsewhere. 

@Robert I was looking for things such as: 
Priority 1
- authorizations on processes (I've seen discussion at [1] and know about CAM-3164 is around. Currently I'm using the work around from [2]). Also see point [3] for more details
- for all authorization options... where you set the Resource ID in the UI it would be great if a select option that lists all available choices. 
- in the Resource ID column you see description rather that ID (seeing the primary key from DB is not very usable to an end user)
- edit (right now you can only add and delete)
- Creating/Setting authorizations to filters within Admin screen (rather than task list)
- Informational Help/Comments  on selected option within admin when hovering over with mouse

Priority 2
- User/Groups show up as select options 
- on the group edit screen ability to see what users are assigned to that group

Future Nice to Have
- From a user there is an option to list the tasks currently assigned to that person
- Users to have account settings (view/editable in admin app) eg: account enabled/expired/locked/password expired/locked/password

[3] as part of my implementation for [2] above I have added the "Process Definition" authorizations to the Admin UI by editing "camunda\app\admin\pages\authorizations.js" to have code below. Thus including "Process Definition Auths" to the admin app. However all aspects of usability in terms of listing the resource options, showing the resource description not ID etc. all apply here too. 
$scope.resourceMap = {
 
...
 
6: 'Process Definition'
};


$scope
.permissionMap = {
 
...
 
6: [ 'READ', 'UPDATE', 'DELETE' ]
};


Thanks in advance
Melissa

Melissa Palmer

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Feb 2, 2015, 6:00:35 AM2/2/15
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Hi Robert/Daniel

Any thoughts on the suggestions for Admin App? 

Thanks
Melissa


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