Officials to meet over deadly Thai-Cambodia border gunbattle

[Cambodia Watch]

Officials to meet over deadly Thai-Cambodia border gunbattle

 

THAI and Cambodian military officials will meet today for negotiations over yesterday's border conflict that left two soldiers dead.

Cambodian Foreign Minister Hor Namhong said military officials from both sides would meet in Thailand to discuss the clash over a border area near a historic temple.

At least two Cambodian soldiers were killed in the gunbattle, and a total of eight troops from both sides were wounded.

Thailand's Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat pledged to "use peaceful means".

"If there is violence, we have to negotiate," Somchai said.

Yesterday's clash was the first deadly fighting in four months of tensions since Cambodia's Preah Vihear temple was declared a UN World Heritage site.

Many Thais feared their country's claim over nearby land would be undermined, and anti-government protesters have pressed their government to take a harder line on the border conflict, seeking to discredit its patriotic credentials.

The protesters have sought the ouster of Thailand's ruling party, occupying the grounds of the prime minister's offices for the past two months.

The fighting yesterday afternoon lasted for about an hour, with each side accusing the other of firing first.

The battle killed at least two Cambodian soldiers and wounded three others, according to Cambodia's Foreign Ministry. Five Thai soldiers were wounded, the Thai army said.

Thailand's Foreign Ministry said Thai soldiers were peacefully patrolling their own territory along the border when Cambodian soldiers shot at them with rocket propelled grenades and submachine guns.

Cambodia's Foreign Ministry accused Thai troops of launching "heavy armed attacks" at three different locations to push back Cambodians from positions inside Cambodian territory.

The fighting was the latest flare-up in a decades-old dispute over a stretch of jungle near the 11th century Preah Vihear temple. The World Court awarded the temple to Cambodia in 1962, but sovereignty over surrounding land has never been clearly resolved.

Thailand had grudgingly accepted Cambodian sovereignty over the temple with few armed confrontations until this year. But resurgent Thai nationalism sparked by the anti-government protesters put Bangkok authorities under pressure to aggressively pursue the land claims.

Both sides sent hundreds of troops to the area after the UNESCO action, and the dispute also fired a surge of nationalism in Cambodia that helped propel Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen to a landslide re-election victory in late July.

Most troops were withdrawn from the area a month later.

But the conflict flared again in recent weeks. A brief gunfight earlier this month wounded one Cambodian and two Thai soldiers. Three days later, two Thai soldiers lost legs when they stepped on land mines in the area.

Charnvit Kasetsiri, a historian who has written extensively on the dispute, said the fight over the temple had long been a proxy for larger conflicts, including World War II and the Cold War, but it had been considered resolved until recently.

"The issue surrounding Preah Vihear temple was over decades ago until it was fanned by nationalist rhetoric for domestic political purposes," he said.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the US would urge both sides to refrain from violence. UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon also urged restraint and called on the two sides to quickly resolve the dispute.

Thailand's more than 300,000-strong military uses modern US equipment and dwarfs Cambodia's 125,000 less well-equipped troops. Cambodian forces, however, are well versed in guerrilla warfare after fighting an intense civil war against the communist Khmer Rouge.

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Thai-Cambodia border gunbattle at Preah Vihear using Khmer from Si Saket to kill three Khmer CPP/Hun Sen soldiers and vic versa.
Bunyarit(KHMER FROM SI SAKET ) was admitted to a hospital in Ubon Ratchathani province after the the clash.
His KHMER family would take his body for a funeral in Si Saket province.
Bunyarit(KHMER ) is the first Thai soldier who was killed in the clash on disputed area near Preah Vihear ancient temple. Two Cambodian soldiers were killed that day.
 
 
 
Volunteer ranger Bunyarit Kantee(A KHMER FROM SI SAKET ), a field army who was critically wounded during the armed clash with Cambodian troops on Oct 15, died Tuesday morning after brain surgery...
 
THE HUN SEN-TAKSHIN (THAI CHINESE) GAME has resulted in Khmer killing Khmer .
The Thai Chinese is using the Khmer to kill the Khmer so is the Vietnamese command of the Hun Sen CPP regime.
 
 
what are the root causes of this Thai-Cambodia border gunbattle at Preah Vihear ?
 
1. Hun Sen personal partnership with the Thai corrupted leaders and Thai Chinese firms investments in Cambodia from 1990's-2008?
 
2. Hun Sen 's connections with Thai Chinese like the Teng Bunma group with promotion of drug smuggling, sex industry, casion gambling , illegal loggings etc..?
 
3. Cambodia occupied by Vietnam against 10 UN resolutions , calling Vietnam to cease her occupation , not respected from 1979-2008 ?
 
4. Thai-Cambodia Presh Vihear dispute (or Hun Sen-Takshin secret agreement ) and its implications and embarrassement for Vietnam, while in 2008, Vietnam is acting president of the UN Security Council?
 
5. Thai Soldier ( Khmer from Si Saket) has died in this personnel dispute or Hun Sen-Takshin game)?
6. Three Cambodian soldiers  too had been killed by their own brother Khmer wearing Thai army uniform to serve this personnel Hun Sen-Takshin game ?
 
VIETNAM INVASION & OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA 1978-2008
Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia.
 
As of today , 200 000 Vietnamese troops remains in Cambodia,  hiding in the 19 Vietnamese associations across Cambodia and through the CPP army/police militia and Officials of the "Cambodian" government of Hun Sen/Heng Samrin/Chea Sim from 1978-2008.

 

To all Nations members of the UN , beware, do not follow the Cambodian Model of cooperations with China and Vietnam when you are invited to sign any agreement of cooperation .

 

The lessons of dupery,cheating, and millions of Cambodian dead must be your guidelines..

 

Beware friends of this dupery and subversion by these 2 countries when you are invited with smile and a little candy as an offer to  cooperated with them ..

 

 

 

Bury

victim of the Chinese & Vietnamese Communist /and Vietnam invasion & occupation of Cambodia 1978-2008

 
 
 
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Further reading: 
Thai soldier injured in Cambodia border clash dies: doctor
AFP - Oct 20, 2008
- BANGKOK (AFP) — A Thai soldier who sustained shrapnel wounds to the head during a firefight with Cambodian troops along their disputed border died on ...
 
Malaysia to consult with Asean on Thai-Cambodia summit Malaysia Star - Oct 21, 2008 
Cambodia, Thailand set for Beijing talks
Radio Australia , Australia - Oct 20, 2008
The prime ministers of Cambodia and Thailand reportedly plan to hold talks this week in Beijing. The talks follow a long-running border dispute which ...

 

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[Bury Chau]

 

 

HUN SEN-THAI CHINESE  GAME , PARTNERSHIP from 1990-2008 ,using Khmer from Si Saket killing Khmer from Cambodia .

 TO PROTECT THIS ILLICITE TRADE AND DRG SMUGGLING IN CAMBODIA AND THAILAND ?

 

Child sex trade soars in Cambodia

Al Jazeera's investigation found underage girls working in brothel's around Phnom Penh Thousands of children are bought and sold for sex every day in Cambodia and while the industry is often shown as serving predatory foreign tourists, the majority of its customers are Cambodian men. Girls as young as 14 work in brothels' around Phnom Penh, the Cambodian capital, an investigation by Al Jazeera, broadcast on Tuesday, found. Al Jazeera filmed secretly at several brothels, and in each case found much the same thing - rooms full of young women in their early twenties, as well as teenagers. "For my virginity they gave me $200," Ya Da, a 16-year-old former prostitute, told Al Jazeera. Ya Da worked in a brothel for two years before she ran away. Now, she lives in a safe house with other former prostitutes and abused children. "There were just a few foreign customers [at the brothel]," she said. "I never slept with any, I slept only with Cambodian men."

VIETNAM INVASION & OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA 1978-2008 Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. As of today , 200 000 Vietnamese troops remains in Cambodia,  hiding in the 19 Vietnamese associations across Cambodia and through the CPP army/police militia and Officials of the "Cambodian" government of Hun Sen/Heng Samrin/Chea Sim from 1978-2008.   To all Nations members of the UN , beware, do not follow the Cambodian Model of cooperations with China and Vietnam when you are invited to sign any agreement of cooperation .   The lessons of dupery,cheating, and millions of Cambodian dead must be your guidelines..   Beware friends of this dupery and subversion by these 2 countries when you are invited with smile and a little candy as an offer to  cooperated with them

'Local customers' Mu Sochua, a politician with the opposition Sam Rainsy Party and a former minister for women's affairs, told Al Jazeera that most of Cambodia's sex industry was supported "by local customers".   In video Cambodia's trade in child prostitutes "And some of these local customers are high-ranking officials. You have the military, the police and civil servants. you have rich businessmen who have lots of money," she said. The involvement of high-ranking officials has been one reasons, NGOs say, that the sex industry has thrived in Cambodia. "Very often these brothels and criminal networks are being supported and protected by high ranking officials," Mark Capaldi, from Ecpat International, an orgnaisation working to eliminate child prostitution, said. "The problem is not just as abusers but also the impunity and lack of law enforcement in closing down these brothels and karaoke bars." But General Bith Kim Hong, from the Cambodian national police force, rejected allegations that the officials focused their efforts to curb prostitution almost exclusively on foreigners. "The national police are concerned about anyone who commits a crime, who has sex with children, whether they are foreigners or Cambodian," he told Al Jazeera. "We have a very high commitment to prevent child prostitution." Few arrests Last year, the Cambodian police arrested only 21 people for committing sex crimes with children - eight of those arrested were foreigners and 13 were Cambodians. The police also admit that the brothels they shut down in high-profile raids often reopen a few weeks later. In 2002, Gary Glitter, the British pop star, was expelled from Cambodia amid child-sex allegations. But while the arrest and conviction of foreigners make the headlines, most child sex trafficking supplies local demand, Mu Sochua said. "It is easier to catch a foreigner and also the government wants to have showcases to make itself look good - that Cambodia is actually taking care of this problem of human trafficking, which is really not the truth," she told Al Jazeera.

 
 
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