Re: Fwd: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen

4 views
Skip to first unread message

Khmer Blood

unread,
Nov 4, 2011, 4:39:16 PM11/4/11
to Anthony Ly, kile...@gmail.com, Republico...@yahoogroups.com, angkoria...@googlegroups.com, Cambodia-Di...@googlegroups.com, yim...@web.de, sitha...@yahoo.com, mpr...@sbcglobal.net, vich...@yahoo.com, Thava...@ymail.com, entry...@yahoo.com, thar...@yahoo.com, ssam...@gmail.com, sant...@gmail.com, phisa...@gmail.com, koks...@yahoo.com, Pona...@sage.com, born-ch...@orange.fr, thira...@aol.com, sacrav...@optusnet.com.au, soks...@hotmail.com
Angkor Borei News revisiting and re-revealing notorious acts  of the Red King as being a political killing machine  of Hun Sen, and Vietnamese but at the same token remind yourself don’t be fallen into a political baby screw driver of “Other” , which will be used to screw patriotic Khmers  whom politically , diplomatically and psychological fight against Hun Sen via the  sound bites and digital pulse from oversea. Stop distributing articles that defending the Prime Monster Hun Sen by discouraging people not to see Hun Sen in the picture of Muammar Gaddafi.  Free yourself then you will be able to free others, and help others to free more people. Don’t invite a Fox into your pack of chicken!
 
Regard,
MD
From: Anthony Ly <angkorbo...@gmail.com>
To: kile...@gmail.com; Republico...@yahoogroups.com; angkoria...@googlegroups.com; Cambodia-Di...@googlegroups.com
Cc: yim...@web.de; sitha...@yahoo.com; mpr...@sbcglobal.net; vich...@yahoo.com; Thava...@ymail.com; entry...@yahoo.com; thar...@yahoo.com; ssam...@gmail.com; jeyv...@yahoo.com; sant...@gmail.com; phisa...@gmail.com; koks...@yahoo.com; Pona...@sage.com; born-ch...@orange.fr; thira...@aol.com; sacrav...@optusnet.com.au; soks...@hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 12:19 PM
Subject: Fwd: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: James Sok <entry...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
To: "cam...@googlegroups.com" <cam...@googlegroups.com>, "khmer...@gmail.com" <khmer...@gmail.com>
Cc: Gaffa Peangmeth <pean...@gmail.com>, Chheat Srey <chhea...@gmail.com>, Diep Ly <angkorbo...@gmail.com>


Please read attachment in Khmer.
Thanks,
James
 

From: Khmer Young <khmer...@gmail.com>
To: khmer...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:22 AM
Subject: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen

Thursday, November 3, 2011

The fate of Col. Gaddafi terrified all world dictators

The end of 2011 has frightened Hun Sen mentally and physically. The middle east spring has toppled many dictators such as Tunisia’s Ben Ali (removed after 24 years in power), Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak (removed after 30 years in power), Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi (to be removed after 42 years in power), Yemen’s Ali Abdullah Saleh (to be removed after 33 years in power) and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad (to be removed after 40 years of dictatorship including his father Hafez al-Assad’s 29-year reign). But our Cambodian Hun Sen is (32 years in power). Hun Sen can also recall to his neighbors such as Suharto of Indonesia and Marcos of the Philippines.

Recent speech at the bridge inaugural ceremony of Hun Sen on the comparing him to Col. Gaddafi is understood as a consoling lullaby for his personal nervous soul. The video clip of beating up and humiliating of Gaddafi is not acceptable for those who love human rights and human dignity but it has truly terrified dictators worldwide.

All dictators have been defined as:
  • staying in power too long or forever
  • transferring power to their own kin under the umbrella of family when they are in aging condition
  • terrify their own objectives (citizens) not to stand up bargaining their power
  • monopolize national wealth, state media, arm force and create the rule of law that can legitimize their power

All these few considering factors of dictatorship, how could Hun Sen can distinguish himself from Gaddafi?

Hun Sen and his spokesperson like Phay Siphan said Hun Sen is different from Gaddafi because Cambodian people elected Hun Sen during the national election. How could election in Cambodia can legitimate Hun Sen power and push him away from Gaddafi's character when Hun Sen can monopolize national wealth, state media, arm force and utilize the rule of law to favor his absolute power? Election in each year is just a stage of Lakhorn to hide the reality from Cambodian people and the international communities.

For Hun Sen, he used the past tragic war to terrify Cambodian people and his recent speech culminated this. His logic based that the toppling of Gaddafi stemmed from war of the opposition. In this matter, Hun Sen wanted to tell us that if "you want to make Hun Sen like Gaddafi, you must rise up by grabbing guns and fight against him". He also encouraged Cambodian dissents by providing a big stock of ammunition supply.

In this matter, Hun Sen can use the reality smarter and clearer than his spokespersons Phay Siphan. Note that Phay Siphan has always stated that all trials to punish dissents are the path to strengthening the rule of law in Cambodia.

At the end, Hun Sen is still terrified by the image of death of Gaddafi. Not only opposition which can topple Gaddafi. The loyal persons close to Gaddafi are also pointing gun at Gaddafi. The NATO and the international communities are also in favor of the opposition. In reality, the people of Libya have supported Gaddafi more than current support of Cambodian people towards Hun Sen.

Let consider few factors that make Hun Sen terrifying at the moment:
  • Hun Sen has realized that his prolonging term in power will end up like Gaddafi although he can use the past genocide, the election and the physical development of Cambodia at the present to legitimize his power.
  • His fate will end up like Gaddafi either by his dissenters, or by his contenders within the CPP, or by the international communities.

The end of 2011 has frightened Hun Sen mentally and physically. The middle east spring has toppled many dictators such as Tunisia’s Ben Ali (removed after 24 years in power), Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak (removed after 30 years in power), Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi (to be removed after 42 years in power), Yemen’s Ali Abdullah Saleh (to be removed after 33 years in power) and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad (to be removed after 40 years of dictatorship including his father Hafez al-Assad’s 29-year reign). But our Cambodian Hun Sen is (32 years in power). Hun Sen can also recall to his neighbors such as Suharto of Indonesia and Marcos of the Philippines.

Among those dictators, Mubarak has shared similarity with Hun Sen. In every election in Egypt, Mubarak always won and could claim his power legitimacy. But the people of Egypt cannot tolerate with that fake election and finally Mubarak must fight with the court although he is living inside the steel cage.





Seeing these falling down of dictators, rumors within the throne of Hun Sen have haunted Hun Sen's power. Hun Sen has cancelled Boat Racing Ceremony this year is not from something else but power protection for himself. The recent birthday ceremony for King Norodom Sihanouk is just a tool to pressure those contenders in his party ring. Only Hun Sen and powerless Heng Samrin appeared at the Birthday Ceremony of the former King. Chea Sim has been politically absent from the scene. Chea Sim must be so painful on the effort of Hun Sen to purge his associates.

Why in Cambodia, only the people who are close to Chea Sim have been arrested of corruption and trading drug? All people who are close to Hun Sen are all very good?

Hun Sen is in a nightmare and I don't think he can run away from this nightmare in this 2011.

May Cambodia free from dictatorship!

Khmer Young


--
Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation!
http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group.
This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language.
Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia.
 
To post to this group, send email to cam...@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-u...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc
Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org





Khmer Blood

unread,
Nov 4, 2011, 10:04:38 PM11/4/11
to James Sok, Anthony Ly, kile...@gmail.com, Republico...@yahoogroups.com, angkoria...@googlegroups.com, Cambodia-Di...@googlegroups.com, Camdisc, Khmer Blood, yim...@web.de, sitha...@yahoo.com, mpr...@sbcglobal.net, vich...@yahoo.com, Thava...@ymail.com, thar...@yahoo.com, ssam...@gmail.com, sant...@gmail.com, phisa...@gmail.com, koks...@yahoo.com, Pona...@sage.com, born-ch...@orange.fr, thira...@aol.com, sacrav...@optusnet.com.au, soks...@hotmail.com
Comrade James Sok, and All Concern
I read and understood your comments, and let’s set the parameter and define ground rule prior beginning to debate. First and foremost, I do not play politics like HRP and SRP fighting each other like hell for the ultimate goal to be the major political player with comrade Hun Sen and his Gov’t … I want to make myself clear that I have no passion in any position in the Dogdom of Cambodia!
Among Khmers, we have intellectual, moderate educated, self-thought, illiterate, and natural born stupid people, and we are one of the above but cannot be all of the above and none of the above.
Among people whom we are comparing Comrade Hun Sen to Muammar Gaddafi via Radio Free Asia and Voice of America were Myself---Michael Duong, and Mr. Kuch Schanley, and other I cannot speak for them and I only can speak for myself.
I said, Mr.  Hun Sen if he is not changing his political platform and strategy, then his destiny is no different from Gaddafi because Hun Sen rules Cambodia the same as Gaddafi:
1)      Tyrannical  Style of his leadership
2)      Corruptions
3)      Nepotism
More importantly, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi never lost a single inch of Libya’s Land to foreign country as compare to Hun Sen was giving Khmers’ lands and natural resources to Vietnam in exchange for his gratuity, power and security for himself and his Cambodians People Party which hold no patriotic value and bring a disgraceful to all Khmers for years and generations to come---I am ashamed to have Hun Sen as the Prime Minister of Cambodia.
Your critics were so vague by criticizing too broad and too general and make yourself as more important by analyzing from Milky Way where other were talking and analyzing with a tunnel vision.  Next time, if you are daring to criticize people then name them to see how they response don’t beating a round the bush.   I never wished to have Hun Sen be died as Gaddafi, but I predicted that if he is not changing the ways he done to Khmer People and Cambodia, then one day he will be like Gaddafi or worse than Gaddafi---I am sorry to say that, and it might upsetting your badly but it is the truth.
I personally, do not know how much points you are going to give Hun Sen, but King Sihanouk gave Hun Sen only two points: 1) National Unity, and 2) Development, and King Norodom Sihanouk never said about Sovereignty, and National Integrity of Cambodia!!!
I and other people might not be smart enough if you are giving the name of the persons and schools, and then we might able to take classes or two.
I don’t the disturbance of peace, democracy, sovereignty, and national integrity of Cambodia. Being compassionate is not good enough; you have to act to save Cambodia….
If you are complain about day dreamers, and then you are not different than the day dreamers! Come to the Light, so you won’t be in the darkness.
Look at Comrade Hun Sen, he wanted to give me or other a warehouse of weapons to fight against him if we dare to compare him to Gaddafi---then who is revengeful person and who is a warmonger? You better spend more time and find way to teach Hun Sen and Sihanouk to love and work for Khmers is much better than to teach all Khmers specially via Angkor Borei News and Camdisc;  James, just start with that two individuals…when they have learned and applied your wisdoms to work than try with other two students…or may be three more. Good luck, and let me know how it goes!
Don't forget to buy me noodle for this email....I don't eat Vietnamese Phou 1979----becuase it is the code sign that Vietnam have sucessfully took over Cambdia! I don't eat Kuy Teav 7 MAKARA either!
Any comments and letters admire Hun Sen, and his Dogdom of Cambodia without proof I will be banned from posting in Repubic of Cambodia and Cambodia Digital Center! All rights reserved by Patriotic Khmers! And email will directly sending to trush can or adding to SPAM list!
Sa Mouth kbot Cheat Kmearn Prum Dearn, Bear Kruoy kee chea Khmers! Sea of Treason has no limit, returning is Khmers---I Michael Duong, and I appproved this message!
R/
MD
 
 
 
 
Regard,
From: James Sok <entry...@yahoo.com>
To: Khmer Blood <jeyv...@yahoo.com>; Anthony Ly <angkorbo...@gmail.com>; "kile...@gmail.com" <kile...@gmail.com>; "Republico...@yahoogroups.com" <Republico...@yahoogroups.com>; "angkoria...@googlegroups.com" <angkoria...@googlegroups.com>; "Cambodia-Di...@googlegroups.com" <Cambodia-Di...@googlegroups.com>; Camdisc <cam...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "yim...@web.de" <yim...@web.de>; "sitha...@yahoo.com" <sitha...@yahoo.com>; "mpr...@sbcglobal.net" <mpr...@sbcglobal.net>; "vich...@yahoo.com" <vich...@yahoo.com>; "Thava...@ymail.com" <Thava...@ymail.com>; "thar...@yahoo.com" <thar...@yahoo.com>; "ssam...@gmail.com" <ssam...@gmail.com>; "sant...@gmail.com" <sant...@gmail.com>; "phisa...@gmail.com" <phisa...@gmail.com>; "koks...@yahoo.com" <koks...@yahoo.com>; "Pona...@sage.com" <Pona...@sage.com>; "born-ch...@orange.fr" <born-ch...@orange.fr>; "thira...@aol.com" <thira...@aol.com>; "sacrav...@optusnet.com.au" <sacrav...@optusnet.com.au>; "soks...@hotmail.com" <soks...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen

Dear Michael Duong,
 
Please read my response in attachment.
Thanks,
James
 

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group.
This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language.
Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia.
 
To post to this group, send email to cam...@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-u...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc

Khmer Blood

unread,
Nov 5, 2011, 11:41:31 AM11/5/11
to James Sok, Anthony Ly, kile...@gmail.com, angkoria...@googlegroups.com, Cambodia-Di...@googlegroups.com, Camdisc, Khmer Young, yim...@web.de, sitha...@yahoo.com, mpr...@sbcglobal.net, vich...@yahoo.com, Thava...@ymail.com, thar...@yahoo.com, ssam...@gmail.com, sant...@gmail.com, phisa...@gmail.com, koks...@yahoo.com, Pona...@sage.com, born-ch...@orange.fr, thira...@aol.com, sacrav...@optusnet.com.au, soks...@hotmail.com
Comrade James Sok, and All Concern,
I knew that you are not interested to hear me saying that I am not interested in any position in the Dogdom of Cambodia, but I am highly interested to know if you are desiring any kind of position in the Dogdom of Cambodia?
 Banning emails that publishing fake and fabricate news and information from publishing in personal own website or newsgroups is not dictator or being contaminated with the legacy of dictatorialism, you have to understand about that… and use it accordingly.
I am not calling the ally force---NATO—Mr. Kuch Schanley, but I am giving the fact that people such as myself, Mr. Kuch Schanley, Khmer Young, and others are referencing Hun Sen leadership style to Muammar Gaddafi, and if Hun Sen is not willing and able to change then his destiny is no different from Colonel Gaddafi. We are living in the free world and our freedom of expression is guarantee by the constitution in the Bill of Rights, and we are reserving our rights of expression.
I am very interested to know about your political motivation and benefit by saying that there is different between Hun Sen and Gaddafi, and it is no use to comparing.
Gaddafi has done:
1) Tyrannical Style of his leadership
2) Corruptions
3) Nepotism
Hun Sen has done:
1) Tyrannical Style of his leadership
2) Corruptions
3) Nepotism

4) Treasonable Acts violated PPA of 1991, and Supplemental treaty of 2005, lost territorial to Vietnam, and others.
Look at Comrade Hun Sen, he wanted to give me or other a warehouse of weapons to fight against him if we dare to compare him to Gaddafi---then who is revengeful person and who is a warmonger?
Why Gaddafi’s Example is useless to Khmer people and Cambodia?  Gaddafi Story is a psychological and direct force of people whom have been oppressed by the oppressor---Gaddafi, and in Cambodia we have Comrade Hun Sen whom oppressed people of Cambodia and used foreign force to oppressing his own people as well. If we are doing the line-item comparison, then Hun Sen is much worse than Gaddafi.
What is your motivation and benefit by saying and discouraging people from talking and comparing Hun Sen to Gaddafi??? That is my main comment and counter comment, and the rests are nothing but white noise!
The more I debate with you the more devalue of my time, if you dont see the bigger picture!
R/
MD
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 1:43 AM

Khmer Blood

unread,
Nov 6, 2011, 3:22:04 AM11/6/11
to Prak Em, cam...@googlegroups.com, James Sok, Anthony Ly, kile...@gmail.com, Republico...@yahoogroups.com, angkoria...@googlegroups.com, Cambodia-Di...@googlegroups.com, yim...@web.de, sitha...@yahoo.com, mpr...@sbcglobal.net, vich...@yahoo.com, Thava...@ymail.com, thar...@yahoo.com, ssam...@gmail.com, sant...@gmail.com, phisa...@gmail.com, koks...@yahoo.com, Pona...@sage.com, born-ch...@orange.fr, thira...@aol.com, sacrav...@optusnet.com.au, soks...@hotmail.com
Thank you for your kind words, Bro! Each person spent at lease a few hundred dollars on traveling cost and have spent tine driving for 18 hours from North Carolina  to join the rally at UN Headquarters and we have submitted petitions to Ban Ki-Moon, Mr. Hun Sen, and King Sihamoni which give a hurricane reaction from Hun Sen and invoke Sihanouk to come back to Cambodia where other idiots see no value and bashing on them, which make no sense!

R/
MD


On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Prak Em <pra...@yahoo.com> wrote:

And I approve your patriotism so much! I wish there are a lot more like you. Well said and determined.
--PE

Khmer Blood

unread,
Nov 7, 2011, 11:01:48 PM11/7/11
to James Sok, Anthony Ly, kile...@gmail.com, angkoria...@googlegroups.com, Cambodia-Di...@googlegroups.com, Khmer Blood, Camdisc, Khmer Young, yim...@web.de, sitha...@yahoo.com, mpr...@sbcglobal.net, vich...@yahoo.com, Thava...@ymail.com, thar...@yahoo.com, ssam...@gmail.com, sant...@gmail.com, phisa...@gmail.com, koks...@yahoo.com, Pona...@sage.com, born-ch...@orange.fr, thira...@aol.com, sacrav...@optusnet.com.au, soks...@hotmail.com
Comrade James  Sok,
First, in response to your writing on the 1st paragraph saying I was the one whom wrote to you, and I wanted to make it cleared that I know your instinct, and I would not waste my time with you. I sent the email to Bong Ly Diep, the Angkor Borei News on Friday November 4, 2011 at 4:39 PM, and then you got heated and send your response directly to Michael Duong, go back to read your responses then you will know.
Secondly, in response to your second paragraph, I do not care about who you are referring to as “A New Hero” but to me it has no place in my heart. I have to do what is right for my country and my people, and I encourage all Khmers to do the same rather than bashing on them for doing the wrong things, and doing that ways were not the right ways …. what were your expert opinions and acts? Sit on your rear end, and circling around the house and then getting bored and want to be famous on world view by writing and posting on Camdisc and, and ask ABN to post for you on certain website because of yours writing were too good for under age viewers and for public website viewing website on a person site or blog, which required a sponsor to post for you.   I cannot count up to 10, which is great that I have more time and room to study but you could count up to trillions or to the infinity, which is great what you could do a lot of thing and what have you don’t lately other than World View---NATO bombed Gaddafi Forces were no good, Libya did not declared war against NATO or its members such USA (sic)? I don’t know why UN Sec. Gen Ban Ki-Moon and President Obama did not ask for your expert opinions on world peace.  Why Rallies and summits on PPA of 1991 after 20 years? That is a great question 20 years ago … I was not in the position which I have now to do thing…, and since you are so smart then what have you done in respect to Paris Peace Agreement of 1991 on Cambodia? Nothing and nothing right for those 20 years, right?  Better late than never, and be so negative in all causes … if you hate the teacher, please don’t hate the school, and if you have hate the school, please don’t hate the scholars---that is my words if used it….please give credit to the author….I have seen exert opinions on Camdisc write on World View, and big words and phrase but never gave the source or the original work the credit .
Thirdly, in response to your 3rd paragraph are “Lear, Lear, and Lear” and know nothing about National Problem … People who know nothing about the national problems they were talking, petitioning, and rally to all Khmers, UN, and other countries to help enforce the PPA of 1991 and they were concerning about the perpetual pain and suffering of ordinary people due to the lack of freedom and democracy, and the lost of national territorial and sovereignty, and they have come together to join the fight for better Cambodia and Cambodians took off from work, drove 10 to 20 hours to do their patriotic act  but the Surreal Cambodian like you and highly smart doing what, please let me know!
Last but not least,   why doing to the Dogdom of Cambodia???? When was the last time, which I went to Cambodia? Can you call the Bureau of Expatiates Services and get my record? Any clue or have any connection with that office? One guy was asked this question, “If Cambodia is like Hell [on earth], why are you going to Cambodia?”; you like this question huh? You know what that that guy replied, he said, “that was the only hell, which he could returning back to home (USA).  For myself, I want to see the people, the country, and the pain and the suffering that they have to endure under the leadership of Comrade Hun Sen … and how can we do to help them. I know exactly of why I can to the US, what I have learned, and what knowledge, skills and resources that I could share or use to help them.
Regardless if your comments directly or indirectly toward me … but your comments was saying the Event in Libya and Gaddafi cannot be compared to Cambodia and Hun Sen respectively in that order served as a negative approach for Cambodia and Cambodians as a whole…and Keo Ramy was on the defense line for Hun Sen but his words are useless  and now Norodom Sihanouk for up for the job to defense Hun Sen and his Government, and I don’t think Hun Sen in interested on you, and you cannot compete against Sihanouk…. I think it is better to keep your current job!
All of these responses can be summarized into four words about; you are an “Emperor have no clothes”.
R/
MD
 
Regard,
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 1:07 PM

Subject: Re: Fwd: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen

Dear Michael Duong,
 
Please read attachment.
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages