Red cycle lanes
Mark Coley
Ł100,000 to spend painting cycle lanes red. Hills Road and Perne Road
were two names I remembered. Hopefully this won't involve actually
painting the surface red with a sandpaper-like surface that is
uncomfortable to ride on. I remember when Hills Road between the railway
and Long Road was done a few years ago we had some perfectly smooth red
tarmac laid just in the cycle lanes. The rest of the road surface was
untouched. Then a few years later the whole road was resurfaced with
smooth tarmac, but the cycle lane was not coloured this time. I wonder
what they have planned.
Mark.
J. Chisholm
> It was on the radio this morning that Cambridge has something like
> painting the surface red with a sandpaper-like surface that is
> uncomfortable to ride on. I remember when Hills Road between the railway
> and Long Road was done a few years ago we had some perfectly smooth red
> tarmac laid just in the cycle lanes. The rest of the road surface was
> untouched. Then a few years later the whole road was resurfaced with
> smooth tarmac, but the cycle lane was not coloured this time. I wonder
> what they have planned.
>
> Mark.
I can't be sure, but I don't believe the Hills Rd ones were re-planed. I
think it just that the dye that was added in significant quantities has
faded over time.
This is different to bus lanes on Trumpington Road where a red aggregate
was used (with normal binder?).
I think some of the 'screed' surface is not of the highest quality, and
in some locations it gets worn away (even in MCLs) by motor traffic.
I suspect that if the suface in the cycle lane is sufficiently poor to
need planing out and a new surface applied, asphalt and red aggregate
might give a better life, otherwise I can't see an option to a scrim coat.
This is what I think of as a scrim coat:
http://www.adbruf.com/colourplus_coloured_antislip_coating.htm#
If you have a look at the 'method' statement you'll see why you, at
least initially, get a bump,bump,bump effect.
Jim
DrC
> It was on the radio this morning that Cambridge has something like
> were two names I remembered. Hopefully this won't involve actually
> painting the surface red with a sandpaper-like surface that is
> uncomfortable to ride on. I remember when Hills Road between the railway
> and Long Road was done a few years ago we had some perfectly smooth red
> tarmac laid just in the cycle lanes. The rest of the road surface was
> untouched. Then a few years later the whole road was resurfaced with
> smooth tarmac, but the cycle lane was not coloured this time. I wonder
> what they have planned.
>
> Mark.
The toucan crossing between Barton Road cycle path and Lammas Land now
glows a nuclear red - shame the morning rush-hour traffic still queues
across it as though it wasn't there the same as they always have,
while the traffic lights ensure any cyclists wanting to cross wait,
watching a queue of basically stationary motor traffic for what seems
like forever before the lights go green for them.
David
rosen...@cix.compulink.co.uk
(Mark Coley) wrote:
> It was on the radio this morning that Cambridge has something like
> £100,000 to spend painting cycle lanes red. Hills Road and Perne
> Road were two names I remembered. Hopefully this won't involve
> actually painting the surface red with a sandpaper-like surface
> that is uncomfortable to ride on. I remember when Hills Road
> between the railway and Long Road was done a few years ago we had
> some perfectly smooth red tarmac laid just in the cycle lanes. The
> rest of the road surface was untouched. Then a few years later the
> whole road was resurfaced with smooth tarmac, but the cycle lane
> was not coloured this time. I wonder what they have planned.
I think the programme is quite advanced already judging by the number of
pristine red cycle lanes I've ridden on in the last week or two.
--
Colin Rosenstiel
Mark Coley
> Mark Coley wrote:
>> It was on the radio this morning that Cambridge has something like
>> £100,000 to spend painting cycle lanes red. Hills Road and Perne Road
>> were two names I remembered. Hopefully this won't involve actually
>> painting the surface red with a sandpaper-like surface that is
>> uncomfortable to ride on. I remember when Hills Road between the
>> railway and Long Road was done a few years ago we had some perfectly
>> smooth red tarmac laid just in the cycle lanes. The rest of the road
>> surface was untouched. Then a few years later the whole road was
>> resurfaced with smooth tarmac, but the cycle lane was not coloured
>> this time. I wonder what they have planned.
> I can't be sure, but I don't believe the Hills Rd ones were re-planed. I
> think it just that the dye that was added in significant quantities has
> faded over time.
They were replaned, if that is the term. A machine cut away a
cycle-width lane on each side all the way along then ever-so-smooth red
tarmac was laid down. The rest of the road was left as bumpy as it used
to be.
Then when it was time to redo the whole road a few years later
everything was removed and a smooth black surface relaid throughout, so
it was at this point the red colour went.
Mark.
TimB
It might be costing £100K, but as far as I can see this all that the
Cycling Demonstration Town award has brought us so far - catching up
on a bit of maintenance that had been deferred for far too long. I'm
unimpressed.
Tim
Daniel...@googlemail.com
>
> It might be costing £100K, but as far as I can see this all that the
> Cycling Demonstration Town award has brought us so far - catching up
> on a bit of maintenance that had been deferred for far too long. I'm
> unimpressed.
Or even completing ones that weren't built properly in the first
place. A lot of the ASL's are getting red paint for the first time in
their life.
--
Dan
Martin
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Mark Coley wrote:
> It was on the radio this morning that Cambridge has something like £100,000 to
> spend painting cycle lanes red. Hills Road and Perne Road were two names I
> remembered.
There is indeed a 'refresh' programme of renewing older facilities that
have not had maintenance for some time taking place.
> Hopefully this won't involve actually painting the surface red with a
> sandpaper-like surface that is uncomfortable to ride on. I remember when
> Hills Road between the railway and Long Road was done a few years ago we
> had some perfectly smooth red tarmac laid just in the cycle lanes. The
> rest of the road surface was untouched. Then a few years later the whole
> road was resurfaced with smooth tarmac, but the cycle lane was not
> coloured this time. I wonder what they have planned.
>
> Mark.
>
Martin
Martin
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, TimB wrote:
> It might be costing £100K, but as far as I can see this all that the
> Cycling Demonstration Town award has brought us so far - catching up on
> a bit of maintenance that had been deferred for far too long. I'm
> unimpressed.
I don't think that's entirely fair; the money was not awarded all that
long ago, and there seems to be a lot of good work in progression, based
on quality rather than quantity, which means preparation time. This £100K
is I believe having to be spent by this March due to government
requirements.
Martin
Jon Warbrick
Mark Coley <mdc...@nospam.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>It was on the radio this morning that Cambridge has something like
>Ł100,000 to spend painting cycle lanes red.
Here's a press release on the subject:
http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/pressrel.nsf/WebPortal/PR2022009?OpenDocument
It is, I think, unfortunate that the first widely-visible result of
achieving Cycling Demonstration Town status is that more paint gets
put on the roads.
Jon.
--
Jon Warbrick
paul...@googlemail.com
> In article <gptfe3$6a...@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
> Mark Coley <mdc1...@nospam.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> >It was on the radio this morning that Cambridge has something like
>
> Here's a press release on the subject:
>
>
> It is, I think, unfortunate that the first widely-visible result of
> achieving Cycling Demonstration Town status is that more paint gets
> put on the roads.
At least it's on the roads. It could be worse: they could be putting
more paint (and a few blue signs) on the pavements.
PaulO
Mark Coley
> I can't be sure, but I don't believe the Hills Rd ones were re-planed. I
> think it just that the dye that was added in significant quantities has
> faded over time.
Riding back from Addies today I could see that from Long Road to Hills
Avenue the old bumpy road tarmac with smooth red tarmac cycle lanes is
still there, but from about Hills Avenue north to Cherry Hinton Road the
whole road was resurfaced, so the replaned cycle lanes (still fairly new
at that time) got removed in the process.
Mark.
Tony Raven
880197...@y9g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, paul...@googlemail.com
says...
> >
> > It is, I think, unfortunate that the first widely-visible result of
> > achieving Cycling Demonstration Town status is that more paint gets
> > put on the roads.
>
> At least it's on the roads. It could be worse: they could be putting
> more paint (and a few blue signs) on the pavements.
>
At least on the pavement you can largely ignore it but if its on the
road you have the problem that drivers try to "encourage" you to use it.
--
Tony
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