On 16/06/2013 11:17, David Hough wrote:
> Paul Gotch wrote:
>
>>
>> To allow free movement of researchers around the EU without causing
>> massive amounts of paperwork for HMRC to recover frankly small amounts
>> of tax for people who are on fixed term and often shortish contracts.
>>
> Still doesn't sound right. Any other contractor who's doing short term
> contracts is going to have to do plenty of paperwork and pay tax, why should
> researchers be any different? I can understand someone who's normally based
> in Germany doing less than six months' work in the UK before returning to
> Germany, being paid from Germany and having a tax liability there, but once
> a person has been here long enough, then surely the tax liability shifts and
> they ought to be paying UK tax and NI.
Exactly. The world is full of people who work contracts of various
lengths who may travel around from country to country doing all sorts of
things which are *not* scientific research. I don't for a minute want to
disadvantage scientific research (my wife, as I said, is at the Sanger)
- quite the opposite as I believe it should be funded more - but this is
just bizarre.
The world is also full of people who know how to run payrolls. Each and
every corporation of any decent size in each and every country in Europe
has someone who runs their payroll - either internally or contracted -
and has an HR department which by necessity is conversant in local
employement law, not just taxation. I suggest it makes very little
difference to a large institution/corporation to have to manage local
payrolling rather than overseas payrolling.
Furthermore, the model of taxation presupposes that local taxes paid by
the employees contribute fairly towards the resources they use. If it
doesn't so presuppose then it appears to be a system contived only
through laziness to save a modicum of paperwork and no more, and which
implies that is intended for the local community to shoulder an undue
burden by having such an institution on their doorstep. Yet if it does
so presuppose fair local taxation contribution then it is at great
fault, for the model of taxation in the UK is such that local taxes only
provide a portion of the resources for local authorities which are
funded significantly, by proportion, by grants from the national
exchequer. Who knows what variance there is between EU states in this
respect? Certainly in the UK there is a considerably disparity between
the local tax paid and the drain on resources and the strain on
infrastructure caused by the residence and employment of people paying
no income tax in this manner.
As for the short-term nature of contracts, at the EBI certainly some of
the people are there for *many* years. I know of several with children
born here, starting school this September, for example.
Michael