Lib Dems top poll in Cambridge, Labour reduced to exact half of councillors
Keith Edkins
Result on the web at:
http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/camlibdems/elect98/results.htm
Conservative gain from Labour: Cherry Hinton
Conservative gain from Liberal Democrat: Trumpington
Liberal Democrat gain from Labour: Romsey
Liberal Democrat gain from Independent: Castle
New Council: Labour 21, Liberal Democrat 18, Conservative 3
Total votes:
Lib Dem: 9335
Labour: 8572
Con: 5223
Green: 721
ABBEY:
Mungai Mbayah (Lab) ...................... 578
Ann Watkins (Con) ........................ 163
Catherine Stebbings (Lib Dem) ............ 148
Labour Majority 430 - no change. Turnout 18.8%
ARBURY:
*Anthony Schofield (Lab) .................. 676
Mark Taylor (Con) ........................ 395
Rhodri James (Lib Dem) ................... 199
Labour Majority 281 - no change. Turnout 24.9%
CASTLE:
J.David White (Lib Dem) ..................1172
Stephen Hartley (Lab) .................... 365
Richard Hoile (Con) ...................... 293
Marion Barber (Green) .................... 112
Liberal Democrat gain from Independent, Majority 807. Turnout 27.4%
CHERRY HINTON:
Graham Stuart (Con) ...................... 893
Richard Carling (Lab) .................... 862
Ashley Woodford (Lib Dem) ................ 161
Conservative gain from Labour, Majority 31. Turnout 34.4%
COLERIDGE:
*E.Ruth Bagnall (Lab) ..................... 873
Eric Barrett-Payton (Con) ................ 363
Richard Folley (Lib Dem) ................. 180
Labour Majority 510 - no change. Turnout 23.6%
EAST CHESTERTON:
Fiona Levison (Lib Dem) .................. 44.2
Tricia Charlesworth (Lab) ................ 41.1
Colin Havercroft (Con) ................... 14.7
Liberal Democrat Majority 68 - no change. Turnout 31.8%
KING'S HEDGES:
Michael Talbot (Lab) ..................... 613
Christopher John Howell (Con) ............ 177
Timothy Wesson (Lib Dem) ................. 151
Labour Majority 436 - no change. Turnout 19.5%
MARKET:
*Joye Rosenstiel (Lib Dem) ................ 837
Andrew Jones (Lab) ....................... 288
Julie-Ann Ing (Con) ...................... 154
Adam Swallow (Green) ..................... 105
Liberal Democrat Majority 549 - no change. Turnout 20.9%
NEWNHAM:
*Christopher Lakin (Lib Dem) ..............1041
Trevor Critchlow (Lab) ................... 473
James Strachan (Con) ..................... 243
Liberal Democrat Majority 568 - no change. Turnout 22.0%
PETERSFIELD:
*Kevin Blencowe (Lab) ..................... 865
G.Stephen Smith (Lib Dem) ................ 262
Shayne Mitchell (Green) .................. 248
Peter Welton (Con) ....................... 196
Labour Majority 592 - no change. Turnout 21.7%
QUEEN EDITH'S:
*Amanda Taylor (Lib Dem) ..................1394
Richard Williams (Con) ................... 802
Kira Davison (Lab) ....................... 349
Liberal Democrat Majority 592 - no change. Turnout 41.1%
ROMSEY:
Catherine Smart (Lib Dem) ................1027
Paul Gilchrist (Lab) ..................... 887
Hamish Downer (Green) .................... 114
Peter Whitehead (Con) .................... 77
Liberal Democrat gain from Labour, Majority 140. Turnout 33.6%
TRUMPINGTON:
Donald Douglas (Con) ..................... 910
Michael Dixon (Lib Dem) .................. 819
Patrick Diamond (Lab) .................... 294
Conservative gain from Liberal Democrat, Majority 91. Turnout 34.2%
WEST CHESTERTON:
*Ian Nimmo-Smith (Lib Dem) ................ 973
Patrick Schicker (Lab) ................... 546
Vivian Ellis (Con) ....................... 233
Margaret Wright (Green) .................. 142
Liberal Democrat Majority 427 - no change. Turnout 30.9%
Will Lockhart
Keith Edkins wrote:
> EAST CHESTERTON:
> Fiona Levison (Lib Dem) .................. 44.2
> Tricia Charlesworth (Lab) ................ 41.1
> Colin Havercroft (Con) ................... 14.7
> Liberal Democrat Majority 68 - no change. Turnout 31.8%
I've heard of elections being rigged before, but surely allowing
fractional votes is going a bit far? :-)
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Marcus Streets
> I've heard of elections being rigged before, but surely allowing
> fractional votes is going a bit far? :-)
You get fractional votes under STV.
However i think Keith absentmindedly type the percentages.
Given how long a day he had had i think we can let him off.
Especially as the professionals still have not got the results on their
web pages.
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Rhodri James
In article <3552E144...@ncipher.com>,
Marcus Streets <mar...@ncipher.com> wrote:
> > I've heard of elections being rigged before, but surely allowing
> > fractional votes is going a bit far? :-)
> You get fractional votes under STV.
> However i think Keith absentmindedly type the percentages.
> Given how long a day he had had i think we can let him off.
> Especially as the professionals still have not got the results on their
> web pages.
Indeed. The votes cast were:
Fiona Levison (Lib Dem) ...................... 971
Tricia Charlesworth (Lab) .................... 903
Colin Havercroft (Con) ....................... 324
An interesting set of elections all round. I'm going to have some fun
crunching the numbers when I get the chance. A shame we had such a low
turnout, though entirely understandable.
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Jonathan Larmour
In article <355267...@gwydir.demon.co.uk>,
Keith Edkins <keith....@gwydir.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>ABBEY:
Wow, talk about apathy. This way, you can say that only 12% of voters
supported Labour, and they still won :).
Jonathan L.
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In article <3552D3...@persimmon.nospam.co.uk>,
wi...@persimmon.nospam.co.uk (Will Lockhart) wrote:
> Keith Edkins wrote:
> > EAST CHESTERTON:
> > Fiona Levison (Lib Dem) .................. 44.2
> > Tricia Charlesworth (Lab) ................ 41.1
> > Colin Havercroft (Con) ................... 14.7
> > Liberal Democrat Majority 68 - no change. Turnout 31.8%
>
> I've heard of elections being rigged before, but surely allowing
> fractional votes is going a bit far? :-)
>
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Well spotted. Try:
> EAST CHESTERTON:
> Fiona Levison (Lib Dem) .................. 973
> Tricia Charlesworth (Lab) ................ 901
> Colin Havercroft (Con) ................... 324
> Liberal Democrat Majority 68 - no change. Turnout 31.8%
Colin Rosenstiel
Roland Perry
In article <355267...@gwydir.demon.co.uk>, Keith Edkins <keith.edkin
s...@gwydir.demon.co.uk> writes
>QUEEN EDITH'S:
>*Amanda Taylor (Lib Dem) ..................1394
> Richard Williams (Con) ................... 802
> Kira Davison (Lab) ....................... 349
>Liberal Democrat Majority 592 - no change. Turnout 41.1%
That's an impressive turnout for a local election. Any particular
reasons?
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Keith Edkins
> > I've heard of elections being rigged before, but surely allowing
> > fractional votes is going a bit far? :-)
> >
Apologies. Comes of rushing the results out at 1am!
Keith Edkins
Keith Edkins
It's always high there - it was 50.6% in 1996. And the Tories won it
then so it was a hot contest. So this is really a disappointing low
turnout!
Keith
Colin Rosenstiel
In article <ogQARwEa...@netcom.net.uk>, rol...@perry.co.uk (Roland
Perry) wrote:
> In article <355267...@gwydir.demon.co.uk>, Keith Edkins
> <keith....@gwydir.demon.co.uk> writes
> >QUEEN EDITH'S:
> >*Amanda Taylor (Lib Dem) ..................1394
> > Richard Williams (Con) ................... 802
> > Kira Davison (Lab) ....................... 349
> >Liberal Democrat Majority 592 - no change. Turnout 41.1%
>
> That's an impressive turnout for a local election. Any particular
> reasons?
Queen Edith's usually has the highest turnout in the City. It's that sort
of area. 41% is at the low end of their usual range. Amanda's opponents
weren't really trying.
Colin Rosenstiel
Peter Maydell
In article <355267...@gwydir.demon.co.uk>,
Keith Edkins <keith....@gwydir.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Result on the web at:
>http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/camlibdems/elect98/results.htm
...and also a handy map of the various wards
[http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/camlibdems/counward.htm], which raises
a question.
Why does the west boundary of the Market ward stop following the river
and kink east to follow Trinity Street? Surely the river is a more
sensible natural boundary to follow? As it is it cuts Trinity's main
site in two so half of us are Newnham and half Market ward, and it's
the only place where a the river isn't a ward boundary. Or are these
things done purely to keep numbers of voters in each ward roughly equal?
I suppose at this scale it makes very little difference which particular
ward you're in...
Peter Maydell
[At least here the candidate I vote for has some chance of winning; it's
very depressing at home, living in Suffolk South, home of Tim Yeo :-> ]
Colin Rosenstiel
In article <6j0d5e$ii4$1...@mnementh.trin.cam.ac.uk>, pm...@cam.ac.uk (Peter
Maydell) wrote:
The reason is numbers. The area between the river and Silver St/
Trumpington St/King's Parade/Trinity St/St John's St/Bridge St contains
some 1500 electors. If they had remained in Market Ward (as they were from
1968 to 1975) it would be much too large compared to the others. Its
electorate of 6627 is above the city average of 6186. Since 1975 Newnham
has grown somewhat, to nearly 8000. The numbers will only be evened out in
a more general ward redistribution some time into the millennium.
Although Trinity (my old college) and Caius are divided, the old boundary
divided Queens' and St John's. It would also divide Caius and Trinity in
any case because of their buildings at West Road and Burrell's Field. You
can't win!
Colin Rosenstiel
Jon S Green
jlar...@cygnus.remove.co.uk (Jonathan Larmour) wrote:
> In article <355267...@gwydir.demon.co.uk>,
> Keith Edkins <keith....@gwydir.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >ABBEY:
> >Labour Majority 430 - no change. Turnout 18.8%
>
> Wow, talk about apathy. This way, you can say that only 12% of voters
> supported Labour, and they still won :).
Ain't that the truth? Mind you, the parties were pretty complacent.
Abbey's usually staunch Labour anyway, but Labour's chances were
probably enhanced by the fact that they were the _only_ party to bother
sending any literature at all, certainly to our address.
Abbey's never going to be a Tory seat (well, I s'pose it is at the
moment *snigger*), but if the Lib Dems made a real effort, got off their
butts, canvassed and sent literature, they'd only need to get 300 or so
new votes (or turn about 150 Labour votes) to take Abbey, based on this
election's figures.
The apathy's not just with the electorate...
Jon
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Colin Rosenstiel
In article <3557a72d....@newshost.cam.harlequin.co.uk>,
> jlar...@cygnus.remove.co.uk (Jonathan Larmour) wrote:
>
> > In article <355267...@gwydir.demon.co.uk>,
> > Keith Edkins <keith....@gwydir.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > >ABBEY:
> > >Labour Majority 430 - no change. Turnout 18.8%
> >
> > Wow, talk about apathy. This way, you can say that only 12% of voters
> > supported Labour, and they still won :).
>
> Ain't that the truth? Mind you, the parties were pretty complacent.
> Abbey's usually staunch Labour anyway, but Labour's chances were
> probably enhanced by the fact that they were the _only_ party to bother
> sending any literature at all, certainly to our address.
>
> Abbey's never going to be a Tory seat (well, I s'pose it is at the
> moment *snigger*), but if the Lib Dems made a real effort, got off their
> butts, canvassed and sent literature, they'd only need to get 300 or so
> new votes (or turn about 150 Labour votes) to take Abbey, based on this
> election's figures.
>
> The apathy's not just with the electorate...
It takes activists able and willing to do these things, over long periods, to
change a ward like Abbey. It's been done but these days everyone wants to watch
their politics on the box.
In fact we did put out several leaflets and canvass in Abbey in a county council
byelection in 1996, with most disappointing results and an abysmal turnout,
little higher than last Thursday's.
Colin Rosenstiel
Cambridge Liberal Democrat
Rhodri James
In article <3557a72d....@newshost.cam.harlequin.co.uk>,
Jon S Green <jo...@harlequin.nojunk.co.uk> wrote:
> Abbey's never going to be a Tory seat (well, I s'pose it is at the
> moment *snigger*), but if the Lib Dems made a real effort, got off their
> butts, canvassed and sent literature, they'd only need to get 300 or so
> new votes (or turn about 150 Labour votes) to take Abbey, based on this
> election's figures.
So I can put you down as a volunteer then, Jon?
:-)
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The message <memo.19980508...@rosenstiel.cix.co.uk>
from rosen...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) contains these words:
> Queen Edith's usually has the highest turnout in the City. It's that sort
> of area. 41% is at the low end of their usual range. Amanda's opponents
> weren't really trying.
Labour didn't even bother to put anything through our door!
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In article <199805120...@antispam.org.uk>,
> The message <memo.19980508...@rosenstiel.cix.co.uk>
> from rosen...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) contains these words:
>
> > Queen Edith's usually has the highest turnout in the City. It's that
> > sort of area. 41% is at the low end of their usual range. Amanda's
> > opponents weren't really trying.
>
> Labour didn't even bother to put anything through our door!
I'd be interested to see any evidence of any ward that received leaflets
from all of the three main parties, Conservative, Labour and Liberal
Democrat. Were there any?
Colin Rosenstiel
George Hawes
rosen...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
>I'd be interested to see any evidence of any ward that received leaflets
>from all of the three main parties, Conservative, Labour and Liberal
>Democrat. Were there any?
Well out in the wilds of Sawston Lib Dems appear non-existant.
Despite the fact that they captured a neigbouring ward from the
leader of South Cambs. District Council - who, while being
Independant (aka Conservative) was actually one of the most
valuable members of that council.
So we had dire labour propaganda, the Tories being able to
'show' that, under a labour government, per-capita funding for
the Village College had fallen for the first time in x years,
both parties expressing support for the same things locally and
seeking to claim credit for the same local developments . . And
a high level of divorce from the real world from both parties.
And the Tories gaining the seat from labour with a majority of
about 30 . . .
</whinge>
G.
Eric Barber
rosen...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
>I'd be interested to see any evidence of any ward that received leaflets
>from all of the three main parties, Conservative, Labour and Liberal
>Democrat. Were there any?
I only saw a Liberal Democrat flier in Impington, but there may have been
others which were recycled too quickly for me. the Liberal Democrat came bottom
of the poll...
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Colin Rosenstiel
In article <6jbv6f$l...@bhars12c.bnr.co.uk>, si...@bnr.co.uk (Eric Barber)
wrote:
> rosen...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
>
> >I'd be interested to see any evidence of any ward that received
> >leaflets from all of the three main parties, Conservative, Labour and
> >Liberal Democrat. Were there any?
>
> I only saw a Liberal Democrat flier in Impington, but there may have
> been others which were recycled too quickly for me. the Liberal Democrat
> came bottom of the poll...
and George Hawes wrote:
> Well out in the wilds of Sawston Lib Dems appear non-existant.
> Despite the fact that they captured a neigbouring ward from the
> leader of South Cambs. District Council - who, while being
> Independant (aka Conservative) was actually one of the most
> valuable members of that council.
I was only asking about the City. The pattern of distribution is likely to
be even more erratic in the villages.
Colin Rosenstiel