Fish eating/preparing of them
Ceri Jones
My dad sen't us some smoked kippers this and they arrived this morning.
Not being big fish eaters we tried to debone them while raw (mistake),
then we had it sujested to us that we should debone them after cooking.
We keep on getting these little bones that will not come out and stay in the
flesh,
The only way to get them out that we can see is to go through them with a
fine toothed comb.
I was wondering are we suposed to eat these bones (a yes answer to this
question would probably mean no more fresh fish for us as neither of us can
stand the thought of this)?
Or are we supposed to be doing something else to get these bones out that we
can't think of?
Or is the only way to do this really spending hours oing through it with a
fine tooth comb?
It strikes me that there are never bones in the cod or haddock that we get
from fish and chip shops,
how do they manage to get the bones out without destroying it?
And any other info that is relevant.
Thanks in advance
Ceri
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Peter Ellis
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>Hi probably a bit of a strange question but here goes
>My dad sen't us some smoked kippers this and they arrived this morning.
>Not being big fish eaters we tried to debone them while raw (mistake),
>then we had it sujested to us that we should debone them after cooking.
>We keep on getting these little bones that will not come out and stay in the
>flesh,
>The only way to get them out that we can see is to go through them with a
>fine toothed comb.
>I was wondering are we suposed to eat these bones (a yes answer to this
>question would probably mean no more fresh fish for us as neither of us can
>stand the thought of this)?
>Or are we supposed to be doing something else to get these bones out that we
>can't think of?
>Or is the only way to do this really spending hours oing through it with a
>fine tooth comb?
Kippers are a special case - most fish can be boned when raw with a sharp
knife or trivially when cooked (the fleash just falls off the bones). In
kippers, the bones are both much tinier and more adherent to the flesh.
For these, the only way *is* to avoid them carefully once the fish is
cooked - with a bit of practice you'll be able to spot the plane the bones
lie in. Sliding the flesh along this plane rather than cutting
perpendicular to the plane is the best way to avoid them.
Or just don't eat kippers - don't swear off all fish for the sake of the
one weird one, though!
Peter
Jonathan Geater
> fine tooth comb?
You should be able to do it with your knife and fork once it's cooked, but
it will still take you a long time to eat. I find things like kippers
(which have loads of small bones) rather spoil my enjoyment of eating.
If you loathe fish bones then better go for something like trout (still lots
of bones but easy to slide off when cooked)or even cod fillets. If you're
feeling really flush then you could go for skate wings - delicious and no
bones at all (just long ribby things that slide out).
> It strikes me that there are never bones in the cod or haddock that we get
> from fish and chip shops,
That's because they've boned and filleted them properly.
> how do they manage to get the bones out without destroying it?
A bit of practice and a very sharp knife. It's easier with larger fish too
> And any other info that is relevant.
Practically anywhere that will sell you fish will prepare it for you if you
ask. All the major supermarkets do it, and I've never seen a fishmonger who
wouldn't. I prefer to do it myself, but only out of habit.
> I was wondering are we suposed to eat these bones (a yes answer to this
> question would probably mean no more fresh fish for us as neither of us
can
> stand the thought of this)?
Smoked kippers are probably not the best introduction to the world of eating
fish. You *can* at the bones, but personally I find the experience horrid.
That's no reason to give up on fish altogether though: pop into the
supermarket or go to the fish man at the market and see what they have.
They'll be happy to advise you.
Cheers,
Jon
Bob
[snipped...]
> how do they manage to get the bones out without destroying it?
One summer I spent some time working for a fish monger in Aberdeen, I spent
9 weeks in the deep freeze at -30C. It turned out to be the hottest summer
on record in Aberdeen reaching 29C, so you can imaging the shock of walking
straight outside from the freezer...
Anyway, one of the overtime jobs was deboning salmon fillets, which was
really, really boring. But it involved repeatedly running your hand over
the fish to find the bones and then using a large pair of tweezers to yank
them out.
Just be carefully though, as if I manage to get an infected finger from a
salmon bone piercing the skin. Still the best way I've found to get rid of
fish bones though...
Cheers,
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Duncan Wood
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You slide the flesh off the bones as you eat the kipper, there's aknack to
it but it's not difficult to acquire.
The Natural Philosopher
> Hi probably a bit of a strange question but here goes
> My dad sen't us some smoked kippers this and they arrived this morning.
> Not being big fish eaters we tried to debone them while raw (mistake),
> then we had it sujested to us that we should debone them after cooking.
> We keep on getting these little bones that will not come out and stay in the
> flesh,
> The only way to get them out that we can see is to go through them with a
> fine toothed comb.
> I was wondering are we suposed to eat these bones (a yes answer to this
> question would probably mean no more fresh fish for us as neither of us can
> stand the thought of this)?
> Or are we supposed to be doing something else to get these bones out that we
> can't think of?
> Or is the only way to do this really spending hours oing through it with a
> fine tooth comb?
> It strikes me that there are never bones in the cod or haddock that we get
> from fish and chip shops,
> how do they manage to get the bones out without destroying it?
> And any other info that is relevant.
> Thanks in advance
> Ceri
>
In one epistle you have identified why the ONLY way to eat herring, is
pickled.
The bones are too large to eat, but too small to successfuly remove.
Do yourself a favour - throw them away and get smoked mackerel instead.
An infintely superior fish.
With fresh herring, my best recipe is sousing, which consists in
simmering them in a closed container, in the oven, in a mixture of
vinegar, water, salt, peppercorns, bay leaves and sometimes a few other
'pickling spices'
Once cold, the vineger and the bones turn to jelly and crumbly dust
repectively.
Of course, its even better with mackerel.
Nick Wagg
>
> I was wondering are we suposed to eat these bones (a yes answer to this
You are not supposed to eat them but with kippers it is almost
inevitable that you will consume the odd one. This is why kippers
should always be consumed with copious quantities of bread and butter,
so that the small bones do not get stuck in the throat.
Getting rid of the bones just takes practice.
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Nick Wagg
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No problem, unless you're constipated of course...;-)
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Dave Goode
> One summer I spent some time working for a fish monger in Aberdeen, I
> spent 9 weeks in the deep freeze at -30C.
Nasty.
Dave
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Marylis
about for a while...
does anyone know anywhere in Cambridge where I can get fresh fish suitable
for sushi/sashimi making? thanks!
cheers,
Marylis
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> This thread has inspired me to ask about something I have been wondering
> about for a while...
>
> does anyone know anywhere in Cambridge where I can get fresh fish suitable
> for sushi/sashimi making? thanks!
>
River Cam?
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Nick Wagg
>
> does anyone know anywhere in Cambridge where I can get fresh fish suitable
> for sushi/sashimi making? thanks!
Not in Cambridge itself, but there is a fresh fish shop at the
back of the Trinity Foot pub on the A14 near Swavesey.
Alternatively there is a fresh fish stall in the Monday morning
market and on Saturdays in St.Ives.
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Nick Wagg
Andrew Mobbs
Is the fish from the Lowestoft van that's outside the Portland Arms on
Wednesdays going to be fresh enough?
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