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Stuart Moore

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Oct 23, 2003, 10:18:25 AM10/23/03
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In todays "The Cambridge Student" there's a report saying Gardis is
closing at the end of next year, as Caius have not renewed the lease.

It's the only decent take away food for quite some distance :( Surely we
can swap a mobile phone shop for a take away...

Stuart

Colin Davidson

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Oct 23, 2003, 10:52:52 AM10/23/03
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"Stuart Moore" <st...@cam.ac.uk.remove> wrote in message
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Oh no!

That can't be true, can it? They're the only burgers in Cambridge that I've
found to be any good :(


Bob

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Oct 23, 2003, 10:49:19 AM10/23/03
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Colin Davidson wrote:

[snipped...]

> That can't be true, can it? They're the only burgers in Cambridge that I've
> found to be any good :(

Try Tommy Tucker on Milton Road, their king cheese burger was excellent. I
haven't tried in a number of years as I don't eat meat anymore, so YMMV.

Cheers,

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Matt Stuttle

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Oct 23, 2003, 11:13:56 AM10/23/03
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Colin Davidson wrote:
> Oh no!
>
> That can't be true, can it? They're the only burgers in Cambridge that I've
> found to be any good :(

For kebabs, I've always preferred Fagitos on Mill Road. Some people say
that KBC on Hills road does okay burgers. YMMV.

K.J. Mansley

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Oct 23, 2003, 11:19:36 AM10/23/03
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On a Sunday afternoon you can get pretty good (but simple) burgers from
the Ostrich Farm stall on the market.

Kieran

Nick Wagg

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Oct 23, 2003, 11:23:12 AM10/23/03
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Matt Stuttle wrote:
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> For kebabs, I've always preferred Fagitos on Mill Road. Some people say
> that KBC on Hills road does okay burgers. YMMV.

Kentucky Burnt Chicken?
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Nick Wagg

Mary Pegg

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Oct 23, 2003, 11:53:46 AM10/23/03
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Matt Stuttle wrote:

> For kebabs, I've always preferred Fagitos on Mill Road.

Carlos is the *only* kebab man.

Colin Davidson

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Oct 23, 2003, 12:15:29 PM10/23/03
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"K.J. Mansley" <kie...@NOSPAM.gtemail.net> wrote in message
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> On a Sunday afternoon you can get pretty good (but simple) burgers from
> the Ostrich Farm stall on the market.

They're allright, actually. They don't quite have the magesty of Gardi's
Greek burger, though.


Jon Schneider

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Oct 23, 2003, 12:09:00 PM10/23/03
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Is that what was the Oasis in Green Street?

Jon

Stuart Moore

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Oct 23, 2003, 1:04:18 PM10/23/03
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Jon Schneider wrote:

> Is that what was the Oasis in Green Street?

Gardis (Gardies?) is in Rose Crescent (near McDonalds and Peppercorns)

Martin Saxon

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Oct 23, 2003, 2:11:46 PM10/23/03
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"Stuart Moore" <st...@cam.ac.uk.remove> wrote in message
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> Jon Schneider wrote:
>
> > Is that what was the Oasis in Green Street?
>
> Gardis (Gardies?) is in Rose Crescent (near McDonalds and Peppercorns)

Is this what I would know as 'The Gardenia', or somewhere else?

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Patrick Gosling

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Oct 23, 2003, 2:24:00 PM10/23/03
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In article <bn91mj$djg$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>,

The Oasis, also known as Omar's, is now the Bangkok City (isn't it?).

I'm now having a flashback to a particularly lovely room I lived in
in 1986, whose window was about a foot away from the confluence of the
Oasis and whatever-Gardies-then-was extractor fan ducts ...

-patrick.

Mark Carroll

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Oct 23, 2003, 2:28:49 PM10/23/03
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In article <bn96c0$hg8$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
Patrick Gosling <jp...@eng.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
(snip)

>The Oasis, also known as Omar's, is now the Bangkok City (isn't it?).
(snip)

/now/? Is the Bangkok City still in... um, Green Street?

-- Mark

Mark Carroll

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Oct 23, 2003, 2:31:11 PM10/23/03
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In article <bn95l3$p1i$1...@thorium.cix.co.uk>,

Martin Saxon <mar...@msaxon.com> wrote:
>"Stuart Moore" <st...@cam.ac.uk.remove> wrote in message
>news:bn91mj$djg$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...
(snip)

>> Gardis (Gardies?) is in Rose Crescent (near McDonalds and Peppercorns)
>
>Is this what I would know as 'The Gardenia', or somewhere else?

The thing I know as Gardies did have 'The Gardenia' on its sign. I
shall miss the chip butties with mayonnaise. I hope they manage to
survive in the city centre somehow. They are one of the best examples
of people working quickly to fulfil orders, in a coordinated way, with
little communication, that I've ever seen, and I thought that the
Americans were meant to be the experts in fast food.

-- Mark

Patrick Gosling

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Oct 23, 2003, 2:40:29 PM10/23/03
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In article <XCw*4D...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,

Yes. Before it was the Bangkok City it was a dodgy kebab place.

-patrick.

Steve Slatcher

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Oct 23, 2003, 3:16:07 PM10/23/03
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On 23 Oct 2003 18:24:00 GMT, jp...@eng.cam.ac.uk (Patrick Gosling)
wrote:

>I'm now having a flashback to a particularly lovely room I lived in
>in 1986, whose window was about a foot away from the confluence of the
>Oasis and whatever-Gardies-then-was extractor fan ducts ...

The Gardenia was in Rose Crescent well before 1986. I believe it was
there in 1975. It was a restaurant then - and one a bit beyond the
means of most students.

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

Dave

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Oct 23, 2003, 3:22:41 PM10/23/03
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In my first year I was in the Green St Caius lodge (next door to the
Oasis). I had a ground floor room at the front. I remember being woken
up in the small hours by people sitting on my window ledge eating kebabs
and pizzas - mind you they weren't amused when I sneaked up behind them
and banged loudly on the window....

Dave

Guy Snape

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Oct 23, 2003, 3:53:42 PM10/23/03
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A Greek Tragedy :-(

- guy

BW

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Oct 23, 2003, 4:43:03 PM10/23/03
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"Patrick Gosling" <jp...@eng.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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And run by the same people as well.


Ian Cowley

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Oct 24, 2003, 4:23:11 AM10/24/03
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Stuart Moore <st...@cam.ac.uk.remove> burbled:

Am I the only person that's pleased to see Gardies go?

It's a dirty, tiny little place that sells cardboard pizza and warm,
hours-old burgers. Much better is the Trailer of Life for burgers and
chips - at least they cook them while you wait, so you know they're fresh.

My rule of thumb at college was that:
Trailer of Life cooks food in front of you.
Van of Death cooks loads of stuff, and it generally sells within 10
minutes.
Gardies seem to cook stuff early in the afternoon and leave it in the hot
cabinet thingie then sell it that evening. Yuck.

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D.A. Galletly

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Oct 24, 2003, 4:30:56 AM10/24/03
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In article <bnanhc$u47cg$1...@ID-163158.news.uni-berlin.de>,

Ian Cowley <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>It's a dirty, tiny little place that sells cardboard pizza and warm,
>hours-old burgers. Much better is the Trailer of Life for burgers and
>chips - at least they cook them while you wait, so you know they're fresh.

That may be your problem right there. Don't buy pizza and burgers from a
kebab shop!

If you want a lamb souvlakia they cook it in front of you. OK so you have
to wait a while, but it's worth the wait.
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Dave Holland

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Oct 24, 2003, 5:06:18 AM10/24/03
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Ian Cowley <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>Am I the only person that's pleased to see Gardies go?

Looks like it :-)

>It's a dirty, tiny little place that sells cardboard pizza and warm,
>hours-old burgers.

I never tried their pizza, but I certainly remember them cooking burgers
to order. Maybe they don't any more. I last ate there about 6 years ago.

Damn, I'm hungry now.

Dave

K. Edgcombe

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Oct 24, 2003, 5:19:38 AM10/24/03
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In article <r1agpvc8kc04j17fl...@4ax.com>,

Steve Slatcher <steve.s...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>The Gardenia was in Rose Crescent well before 1986. I believe it was
>there in 1975. It was a restaurant then - and one a bit beyond the
>means of most students.

But in the early sixties it was a good place for cheap filling food, second
only to the Corner House in King Street. It went upmarket around 1970 and
was never as good again.

Katy

Colin Davidson

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Oct 24, 2003, 5:35:13 AM10/24/03
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"Ian Cowley" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Am I the only person that's pleased to see Gardies go?
>
> It's a dirty, tiny little place that sells cardboard pizza and warm,
> hours-old burgers. Much better is the Trailer of Life for burgers and
> chips - at least they cook them while you wait, so you know they're fresh.
>
> My rule of thumb at college was that:
> Trailer of Life cooks food in front of you.
> Van of Death cooks loads of stuff, and it generally sells within 10
> minutes.
> Gardies seem to cook stuff early in the afternoon and leave it in the hot
> cabinet thingie then sell it that evening. Yuck.

I've never ordered a burger from Gardis that I didn't see cooked on the
griddle; maybe they -do- cook things in advance, but it's never been the
case when I've been there.


Chris Brown

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Oct 24, 2003, 4:48:44 AM10/24/03
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In article <bnanhc$u47cg$1...@ID-163158.news.uni-berlin.de>,
Ian Cowley <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>Am I the only person that's pleased to see Gardies go?

I don't know about being pleased to see them go. They're something of an
institution, but I agree with you about the food - they were always bottom
of the list of places I'd look for food in the small hours. I generally
found their burgers to be tasteless and cardboardy.

LNR

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Oct 24, 2003, 5:28:01 AM10/24/03
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K. Edgcombe wrote:
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>But in the early sixties it was a good place for cheap filling food, second
>only to the Corner House in King Street. It went upmarket around 1970 and
>was never as good again.

Gosh I'd forgotten the Corner House entirely. Probably one of the first
places I ever ate out in Cambridge, when visiting friends here in '96 or
so. I think it had gone by the time I moved here in '99.

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zulu

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Oct 24, 2003, 5:59:22 AM10/24/03
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"K. Edgcombe" <ke...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Weren't it just!
We had many a meal there when we were [1] courting, in the very early 60's
The Waffle Cafe in Petty Cury is well remembered also.

[1] Ask your parents...:-)

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Ś zulu Ś


Jón Fairbairn

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Oct 24, 2003, 6:15:01 AM10/24/03
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ke...@cus.cam.ac.uk (K. Edgcombe) writes:

> second only to the Corner House in King Street. It went
> upmarket around 1970 and was never as good again.

Upmarket? It certainly didn't seem upmarket to me in 1978-80
when I ate there. What was it like before it went upmarket
then?

--
Jón Fairbairn Jon.Fa...@cl.cam.ac.uk

Steve McIntyre

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Oct 24, 2003, 5:25:06 AM10/24/03
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In article <bnanhc$u47cg$1...@ID-163158.news.uni-berlin.de>,
Ian Cowley <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>Am I the only person that's pleased to see Gardies go?
>
>It's a dirty, tiny little place that sells cardboard pizza and warm,
>hours-old burgers. Much better is the Trailer of Life for burgers and
>chips - at least they cook them while you wait, so you know they're fresh.
>
>My rule of thumb at college was that:
> Trailer of Life cooks food in front of you.
> Van of Death cooks loads of stuff, and it generally sells within 10
>minutes.
> Gardies seem to cook stuff early in the afternoon and leave it in the hot
>cabinet thingie then sell it that evening. Yuck.

I don't know about the rest of the food, but I've never in the 10
years or so of using Gardies seen a warmed-up burger there. They've
always been cooked fresh in front of me...

--
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. st...@einval.com
"It's actually quite entertaining to watch ag129 prop his foot up on
the desk so he can get a better aim." [ seen in ucam.chat ]

Steve Slatcher

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Oct 24, 2003, 6:50:37 AM10/24/03
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Jón Fairbairn wrote:
> ke...@cus.cam.ac.uk (K. Edgcombe) writes:
>
>> second only to the Corner House in King Street. It went
>> upmarket around 1970 and was never as good again.
>
> Upmarket? It certainly didn't seem upmarket to me in 1978-80
> when I ate there. What was it like before it went upmarket
> then?

I would say it was more upmarket in 1978-80 than the Corner House, which
seems to be Katy's point of comparison. But then most restaurants were more
upmarket than the Corner House. Not that I am knocking the Corner House -
they produced excellent food for the price.

Steve


Jón Fairbairn

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Oct 24, 2003, 7:07:39 AM10/24/03
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jon.fa...@cl.cam.ac.uk (Jón Fairbairn) writes:

> ke...@cus.cam.ac.uk (K. Edgcombe) writes:
>
> > second only to the Corner House in King Street. It went
> > upmarket around 1970 and was never as good again.
>
> Upmarket? It certainly didn't seem upmarket to me in 1978-80
> when I ate there. What was it like before it went upmarket
> then?

Agh! Anaphora error on line 1. I thought you meant that the
Corner House went upmarket, which you clearly didn't. The
Gardenia definitely was more upmarket than the Corner House
by the time I met them.

--
Jón Fairbairn Jon.Fa...@cl.cam.ac.uk

Sam Holloway

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Oct 24, 2003, 10:23:32 AM10/24/03
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On 24 Oct 2003 10:28:01 +0100 (BST), LNR <l...@lspace.org> wrote:
>K. Edgcombe wrote:
>>
>>But in the early sixties it was a good place for cheap filling food, second
>>only to the Corner House in King Street. It went upmarket around 1970 and
>>was never as good again.
>
>Gosh I'd forgotten the Corner House entirely. Probably one of the first
>places I ever ate out in Cambridge, when visiting friends here in '96 or
>so. I think it had gone by the time I moved here in '99.

The first term I was in Cambridge (1997), we'd quite often go to the
Corner House for Sunday lunch. It was chips with everything, and
mammoth portions. Gradually we discovered other alternatives and never
went back as much.

I'm trying to remember exactly when it closed. I think it was
early/mid 1999. It shut down, signs appeared saying "big revamp" and
it then reopened a couple of months later as Yippee (or rather, Yippee
opened in its place).

Sam
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Sam Holloway

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Oct 24, 2003, 10:27:25 AM10/24/03
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:23:11 +0100, "Ian Cowley" <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:

>Stuart Moore <st...@cam.ac.uk.remove> burbled:
>> In todays "The Cambridge Student" there's a report saying Gardis is
>> closing at the end of next year, as Caius have not renewed the lease.
>>
>> It's the only decent take away food for quite some distance :( Surely we
>> can swap a mobile phone shop for a take away...
>
>Am I the only person that's pleased to see Gardies go?

I think it's a shame that it is closing, mainly because it's part of
the set of long-standing food-type establishments. But I have some
sympathy for your comments in relation to the food. I found Gardies
chips to be awful, and the burgers and kebabs were perfectly edible
but not particularly exciting. I guess everybody's mileage varies
quite considerably with these sort of things.

Stephen Borrill

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Oct 24, 2003, 11:29:24 AM10/24/03
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jp...@eng.cam.ac.uk (Patrick Gosling) wrote in message news:<bn97at$i9i$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>...

It may have served dodgy kebabs, but their pizzas and burgers were
excellent.
The burgers were freshly flame grilled and the Large ED (2 x quarter
pounder,
bacon and cheese) was particularly fine.

Given comments elsewhere in this thread about Gardi's doing excellent
kebabs, but poor burgers, I think the two were complimentary.

OTOH, the wisdom at Fitz seemed to be that males went to Oasis and
females went to Gardi's.

--
Stephen

Stuart Moore

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Oct 24, 2003, 1:15:53 PM10/24/03
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Ian Cowley wrote:

> Stuart Moore <st...@cam.ac.uk.remove> burbled:
>
>>In todays "The Cambridge Student" there's a report saying Gardis is
>>closing at the end of next year, as Caius have not renewed the lease.
>>
>>It's the only decent take away food for quite some distance :( Surely we
>>can swap a mobile phone shop for a take away...
>
>
> Am I the only person that's pleased to see Gardies go?
>
> It's a dirty, tiny little place that sells cardboard pizza and warm,
> hours-old burgers. Much better is the Trailer of Life for burgers and
> chips - at least they cook them while you wait, so you know they're fresh.
>
> My rule of thumb at college was that:
> Trailer of Life cooks food in front of you.
> Van of Death cooks loads of stuff, and it generally sells within 10
> minutes.
> Gardies seem to cook stuff early in the afternoon and leave it in the hot
> cabinet thingie then sell it that evening. Yuck.

Burgers, Souvlaki (sp?) always seem to be cooked fresh. Doner isn't, but
that's pretty typical. The roast chickens seem to be cooked, put in the
warm counter and then fried(?) to heat them for you, but seems good to me.

Varsity say they've got a campaign to keep Gardies open. Hmmm. I have a
horrible feeling Gardies protests will outdo ones on top up fees by
quite a large margin

Stuart

Jón Fairbairn

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Oct 24, 2003, 2:03:15 PM10/24/03
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"Steve Slatcher" <m...@privacy.net> writes:

> Jón Fairbairn wrote:
> > ke...@cus.cam.ac.uk (K. Edgcombe) writes:
> >
> >> second only to the Corner House in King Street. It went
> >> upmarket around 1970 and was never as good again.
> >
> > Upmarket? It certainly didn't seem upmarket to me in 1978-80
> > when I ate there. What was it like before it went upmarket
> > then?
>
> I would say it was more upmarket in 1978-80 than the Corner House, which
> seems to be Katy's point of comparison.

Yes, my mistake -- see other post.

> But then most restaurants were more upmarket than the
> Corner House. Not that I am knocking the Corner House -
> they produced excellent food for the price.

which is why I ate at the CH. The Gardenia /was/ a bit more
upmarket, but good for a slightly more special occasion. My
degree exams were fuelled by kebabs from the Gardenia eaten
on the backs immediately before I went into the exam.

--
Jón Fairbairn Jon.Fa...@cl.cam.ac.uk
http://www.chaos.org.uk/~jf/Stuff-I-dont-want.html (updated 2003-08-02)

Colin Rosenstiel

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Oct 26, 2003, 8:32:00 PM10/26/03
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In article <bnao00$ora$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, dag...@eng.cam.ac.uk
(D.A. Galletly) wrote:

> In article <bnanhc$u47cg$1...@ID-163158.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> Ian Cowley <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >It's a dirty, tiny little place that sells cardboard pizza and warm,
> >hours-old burgers. Much better is the Trailer of Life for burgers and
> >chips - at least they cook them while you wait, so you know they're
> >fresh.
>
> That may be your problem right there. Don't buy pizza and burgers from
> a kebab shop!
>
> If you want a lamb souvlakia they cook it in front of you. OK so you
> have to wait a while, but it's worth the wait.

Precisely. I'll miss the kebabs. Irreplaceable IME. Never tried the other
stuff but used to eat kebabs in the basement and upstairs when it was
still a restaurant in the lat 60s and early 70s. :-(

But the Corner House was in a class of its own for years. I started eating
there when it was actually on the corner. And it was a great place to take
the whole family for a meal when they were young.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Matthew Vernon

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Oct 28, 2003, 7:57:16 AM10/28/03
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"Colin Davidson" <ca...@biotech.cam.ac.uk> writes:

> That can't be true, can it? They're the only burgers in Cambridge that I've
> found to be any good :(

I prefer van-of-life burgers, but the kebabs from Gardies are OK.

Matthew

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