Bit wet in St Ives...

[Vir Campestris]

Went over the bridge the other day. The river is not unusually filling
all the space under the viaduct. At Jones' boatyard the lock gates
seemed to be wide open. Some of the boats stored for winter are sitting
on chocks, which are partly under water. And there are fields flooded
almost all the way to the turning onto the old A14.

This is as high as I remember!

Andy

[The Natural Philosopher]

Is Waterbeach station car park flooded yet?

Or the houses along the cam downstream of elizabeth way?

Those are my two worst flood memories from 1987 ish and 2001 ish.

> Andy

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[Alan]

On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 14:04:19 -0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 08/01/2024 12:20, Vir Campestris wrote:
>> Went over the bridge the other day. The river is not unusually filling
>> all the space under the viaduct. At Jones' boatyard the lock gates
>> seemed to be wide open. Some of the boats stored for winter are sitting
>> on chocks, which are partly under water. And there are fields flooded
>> almost all the way to the turning onto the old A14.
>> This is as high as I remember!
>>
> Is Waterbeach station car park flooded yet?
>
> Or the houses along the cam downstream of elizabeth way?
>
> Those are my two worst flood memories from 1987 ish and 2001 ish.
>
>> Andy
>

Having worked at Chesterton Pye/Philips/Simoco from 1975 to around 2015, I
think 1978 was the worst flooding around Elizabeth Way. The weekend of
the big opening of the new factory. Nothing since was as bad as far as I
remember.

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[The Natural Philosopher]

1984 was, very bad...


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Historical-floods-marks-in-Cambridge-keeping-the-memory-of-the-floods-of-1821-1861-1878-and-1984.jpg

And 2001

http://www.cambridge2000.com/cam_flood/0110/html/PA223926.html



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[Jacob Nevins]

The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>On 08/01/2024 14:28, Alan wrote:
>> Having worked at Chesterton Pye/Philips/Simoco from 1975 to around 2015,
>> I think 1978 was the worst flooding around Elizabeth Way.  The weekend
>> of the big opening of the new factory. Nothing since was as bad as far
>> as I remember.
>
> 1984 was, very bad...
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Historical-floods-marks-in-Cambridge-keeping-the-memory-of-the-floods-of-1821-1861-1878-and-1984.jpg

In the past (2003), cam.misc has concluded that these year markers on
Fair Street are parish boundary markers for Holy Trinity Parish, and
nothing to do with water levels.
https://cam.misc.narkive.com/fa5xv5EV/high-tide-markers-on-fair-street-newmarket-road
Cites an online article from Cambridge News, that the Wayback Machine
doesn't seem to have captured, so I can't assess the credibility of that
claim.
But the current boundary of Holy Trinity Parish does turn that corner,
so it at least doesn't fail that plausibility test.
https://dioceseofely.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/portfolio/index.html?appid=2706c8a653514d2eac14728707ce36b6

The quoted image on Wikimedia Commons, with its suggestive title
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Historical-floods-marks-in-Cambridge-keeping-the-memory-of-the-floods-of-1821-1861-1878-and-1984.jpg
comes from this paper preprint from 2015:
https://doi.org/10.5194/hessd-12-6541-2015
The preprint's vague approach to citation doesn't really allow reviewing
the evidence (if any) that these mark water levels, as it asserts.
(As far as I can tell, this paper was never published. The reviewers of
the preprint were not kind about its rigour in general, and at least one
recommended rejection.)

It should not be hard to determine whether or not there was a Cambridge
flood in 1984 of such magnitude as to inundate houses on Maids Causeway.
(Long before my time, though.)

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 09/01/2024 13:55, Jacob Nevins wrote:
> It should not be hard to determine whether or not there was a Cambridge
> flood in 1984 of such magnitude as to inundate houses on Maids Causeway.
> (Long before my time, though.)

Oh there was. I was there

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[Alan]

On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 13:55:19 -0000, Jacob Nevins
<jac...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

> The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> On 08/01/2024 14:28, Alan wrote:
>>> Having worked at Chesterton Pye/Philips/Simoco from 1975 to around
>>> 2015,

>>> I think 1978 was the worst flooding around Elizabeth Way. The weekend

https://cam.misc.narkive.com/fa5xv5EV/high-tide-markers-on-fair-street-newmarket-road
seems to suggest you are right, although the article referenced in the
News doesn't seem to be available in any more.

I do know though that the 1978 flood around the Pye/Philips/Simoco
building hasn't been beaten.

Alan

[The Natural Philosopher]

There was no major flood in 1978. Google it


It was in 1984


> Alan
>

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[Theo]

Alan <eternal-...@ourmailbox.org.uk> wrote:
> https://cam.misc.narkive.com/fa5xv5EV/high-tide-markers-on-fair-street-newmarket-road
> seems to suggest you are right, although the article referenced in the
> News doesn't seem to be available in any more.

It's here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030926065615/http://w3.cambridge-news.co.uk:80/features/memories/default.asp?StoryID=35974

Quoting the relevant bit:


Oh boy, is that Buddy?
Published on 03 September 2003

[snip sections about Chivers and Buddy Holly]

Recent Memories articles have prompted replies.

Mystery solved: Fair St inscription

On the initials on the wall in Fair Street, John Newnham, chairman of the
Society of Cambridge Tourist Guides, emails: "There is no mystery to the
inscriptions on the wall of the house at the corner of Fair Street and Maids
Causeway. They mark the parish boundaries of Holy Trinity.

"Similar marks are to be seen on the west side of Trinity Library marking
All Saints Parish and St Mary's Parish." Heather Richardson of Cambridge
confirms the initials as being those of Holy Trinity; she believes the
bounds were beaten again in the late 1980s or early 90s when she was
churchwarden there."

[snip unrelated other memories]

[Tim Ward]

On 09/01/2024 14:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 09/01/2024 13:55, Jacob Nevins wrote:
>> It should not be hard to determine whether or not there was a Cambridge
>> flood in 1984 of such magnitude as to inundate houses on Maids Causeway.
>> (Long before my time, though.)
>
> Oh there was. I was there

I remember such a flood but don't remember the year.

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[Alan]

I don't need to, I was there. It was the big opening day for the new
factory. If it helps scan down through this link:

https://www.pye-story.org/companies/pye-sites/cambridge-sites

There are many other pictures out there.

From then til when they (well later incarnation) moved to Waterbeach in
2016, there was no greater flood at that site.

>
>
> It was in 1984
>
>
>> Alan
>>
>


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