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charliejuggler

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Aug 20, 2009, 6:18:43 AM8/20/09
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Elizabeth Cook wrote:
> I need some freezer blocks / ice blocks / freezer packs /plastic things you
> put in the freezer and then put in a cool bag. I can't find them in Tesco,
> Asda, Sainsbury's, Wilkinson's, John Lewis, Poundland, Homebase or Argos. I
> could buy them off eBay but I really wanted them today. Please does anyone
> have any suggestions as to where there might be some for sale locally?

I thought Lakeland, but their website doesn't indicate they do: maybe a
camping shop like Open Air? We've got one but I think it came from a
supermarket, it may be they've stopped selling their summer/barbeque
stuff now.

C
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Liz
>
>

Stuart Moore

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Aug 20, 2009, 6:20:02 AM8/20/09
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On 20 Aug, 11:14, "Elizabeth Cook" <e.bak...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> I need some freezer blocks / ice blocks / freezer packs /plastic things you
> put in the freezer and then put in a cool bag. I can't find them in Tesco,
> Asda, Sainsbury's, Wilkinson's, John Lewis, Poundland, Homebase or Argos. I
> could buy them off eBay but I really wanted them today. Please does anyone
> have any suggestions as to where there might be some for sale locally?

I have in the last 6 months found them in the Sainsburies in town,
with their picnic things I think. It might be that they've stopped
doing them because they consider summer over... :(

Stuart

Elizabeth Cook

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Aug 20, 2009, 6:42:38 AM8/20/09
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"Stuart Moore" <st...@stumo.org.uk> wrote in message
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> I have in the last 6 months found them in the Sainsburies in town,
> with their picnic things I think. It might be that they've stopped
> doing them because they consider summer over... :(

Yes, that's the problem. Everyone says "We used to have them..."

I forgot to add Halfords and Boots to the list of places I've tried.

Liz


Paul Oldham

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Aug 20, 2009, 6:46:07 AM8/20/09
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charliejuggler wrote:

> Elizabeth Cook wrote:
>> I need some freezer blocks / ice blocks / freezer packs /plastic things you
>> put in the freezer and then put in a cool bag. I can't find them in Tesco,
>> Asda, Sainsbury's, Wilkinson's, John Lewis, Poundland, Homebase or Argos. I
>> could buy them off eBay but I really wanted them today. Please does anyone
>> have any suggestions as to where there might be some for sale locally?
>
> I thought Lakeland, but their website doesn't indicate they do: maybe a
> camping shop like Open Air?

... or Simpers?

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Elizabeth Cook

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Aug 20, 2009, 6:56:01 AM8/20/09
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"Paul Oldham" <pa...@the-hug.org> wrote in message
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> ... or Simpers?

Simpers have just one but Blacks have five so I'll check in with Blacks
first and go home via Simpers if I can't get any in Blacks for some reason.
Might check Field and Trek if they're still on Fitzroy Street.

Thanks for the responses.

Liz


Lotty G

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Aug 20, 2009, 7:27:20 AM8/20/09
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I had the same problem a few years ago and in the end found them in
the picnic hamper section of John Lewis but before they moved to the
Grand Arcade. If it's too late in the season for them to stock the ice
blocks, you're welcome to borrow my two. Histon Rd area. Doubt we'll
be using them in the short-term.

Lotty.

Philip Shore

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Aug 20, 2009, 7:58:14 AM8/20/09
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That shop closed down didn't it ?

Field and Trek are now in the basement of Sports Direct in the Grand Arcade.

>
> Thanks for the responses.
>
> Liz
>
>


Phil.

Sarah Cooper

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Aug 20, 2009, 8:08:00 AM8/20/09
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In article <km9jm.29153$D91....@newsfe01.ams2>, e.ba...@ntlworld.com
(Elizabeth Cook) wrote:

> I need some freezer blocks / ice blocks / freezer packs /plastic things
> you put in the freezer and then put in a cool bag. I can't find them in
> Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury's, Wilkinson's, John Lewis, Poundland, Homebase
> or Argos. I could buy them off eBay but I really wanted them today.
> Please does anyone have any suggestions as to where there might be some
> for sale locally?
>

> Many thanks.
>
> Liz
>
>
>
you may have more luck finding a wine cooler jacket that you put in the
freezer (Robert Sayle/Lakeland). You can also get cooling pads (made in
teh same way) for sprains and things - back to Boots! Personally I use
small mineral water bottles and fill them (almost - so they don't burst)
with water and freeze those. They work just as well and you can drink them
too rather than taking up space with a freezer block.

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Jon Green

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Aug 20, 2009, 9:21:35 AM8/20/09
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Oh, _really_? Thanks for that! I thought they'd just gone under,
rather than underground. I'll have to drop in, next time I'm in the centre.

Jon
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charliejuggler

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Aug 20, 2009, 9:43:00 AM8/20/09
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Jon Green wrote:
> Philip Shore wrote:
>> Elizabeth Cook wrote:
>>> "Paul Oldham" <pa...@the-hug.org> wrote in message
>>> news:i4mvl6-...@bigjohn.hug...
>>>> ... or Simpers?
>>> Simpers have just one but Blacks have five so I'll check in with Blacks
>>> first and go home via Simpers if I can't get any in Blacks for some reason.
>>> Might check Field and Trek if they're still on Fitzroy Street.
>> That shop closed down didn't it ?
>>
>> Field and Trek are now in the basement of Sports Direct in the Grand Arcade.
>
> Oh, _really_? Thanks for that! I thought they'd just gone under,
> rather than underground. I'll have to drop in, next time I'm in the centre.
>
> Jon

Well, I wasn't desperately impressed with their range when I did pop in,
they haven't got much space really.

C

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Theo Markettos

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Aug 20, 2009, 4:20:53 PM8/20/09
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Sarah Cooper <coo...@cix.co.uk> wrote:
> you may have more luck finding a wine cooler jacket that you put in the
> freezer (Robert Sayle/Lakeland). You can also get cooling pads (made in
> teh same way) for sprains and things - back to Boots! Personally I use
> small mineral water bottles and fill them (almost - so they don't burst)
> with water and freeze those. They work just as well and you can drink them
> too rather than taking up space with a freezer block.

Cutlacks might be the other place I'd think of trying. Worth a ring?

Theo

Cwatters

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Aug 20, 2009, 4:46:02 PM8/20/09
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"Elizabeth Cook" <e.ba...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>I need some freezer blocks / ice blocks / freezer packs /plastic things you
>put in the freezer and then put in a cool bag. I can't find them in Tesco,
>Asda, Sainsbury's, Wilkinson's, John Lewis, Poundland, Homebase or Argos. I
>could buy them off eBay but I really wanted them today. Please does anyone
>have any suggestions as to where there might be some for sale locally?
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Liz
>

Water has a high specific heat capacity. Just make ice cubes and put in a
plastic bag?


Theo Markettos

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Aug 20, 2009, 4:54:47 PM8/20/09
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Cwatters <colin.wat...@turnersoaknospam.plus.com> wrote:
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> Water has a high specific heat capacity. Just make ice cubes and put in a
> plastic bag?

And if you want them colder, add salt before freezing.

(DIY icecream maker: two plastic bowls jammed together with strong salt
solution between, then frozen. A spoon and some elbow grease)

Theo

Elizabeth Cook

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Aug 20, 2009, 5:05:41 PM8/20/09
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"Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Cutlacks might be the other place I'd think of trying. Worth a ring?

I did think of them but they didn't answer the phone when Blacks did, so I
went to Blacks instead. Ho hum.
Liz


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Jules

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Aug 20, 2009, 6:15:34 PM8/20/09
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:05:41 +0100, Elizabeth Cook wrote:

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> "Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:XMf*jW...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
>
>> Cutlacks might be the other place I'd think of trying. Worth a ring?
>
> I did think of them but they didn't answer the phone when Blacks did

There's a cam.misc-esque comment in there somewhere, I'm sure :)


Roland Perry

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Aug 21, 2009, 3:56:36 AM8/21/09
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In message <ZMf*f4...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, at 21:54:47 on Thu,
20 Aug 2009, Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
remarked:

>> Water has a high specific heat capacity. Just make ice cubes and put in a
>> plastic bag?
>
>And if you want them colder, add salt before freezing.

My freezer works at -18c, does it cool salty things down to a different
temperature than non-salty ones?
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Roland Perry

Duncan Wood

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Aug 21, 2009, 4:05:44 AM8/21/09
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:56:36 +0100, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
wrote:

No, but the temperature at which they absorb the most energy & the one
they spend almost all their time in a cool box at is their melting point.

Jon Green

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Aug 21, 2009, 4:52:31 AM8/21/09
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I always wanted to try Blumenthal's liquid N2 method. Apart from
apparently making the best ice cream in the world (assuming the
custard's pretty fabulous, I guess), it sounds like _real_ fun!

Now, how do I get a supply of liquid N2? Haven't squared that circle,
yet. All ideas welcomed - there's a bunch of things I'd love to demo
for my kids, aside from ice cream!

Jon Green

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Aug 21, 2009, 4:56:38 AM8/21/09
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Elizabeth Cook wrote:
> "Cwatters" <colin.wat...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:Vb6dnXt-waabKxDX...@brightview.co.uk...

>
>> Water has a high specific heat capacity. Just make ice cubes and put in a
>> plastic bag?
>
> They are inclined to leak when you do that, even if you are careful. I
> freeze 500ml plastic bottles of water. However I now have ice packs so
> problem over.

The problem with freezing water bottles is that they can split in the
process (particularly since the plastic can become brittle at low
temperatures) ... and you won't find out until they melt ...

I'm surprised no-one's mentioned the old fall-back, bags of frozen peas.
So long as you've been careful to select a bag that's completely
intact, you've got a "freezer block" that can be moulded into any shape
-- which means you get a much better cooling performance because it's in
maximum surface contact with whatever you're trying to keep cool.

Just don't think of it as a bag'o'peas after it's defrosted...it's a
"freezer block" for good, now.

Tim Ward

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Aug 21, 2009, 5:15:54 AM8/21/09
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"Jon Green" <jo...@deadspam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Now, how do I get a supply of liquid N2?

Nick it from any one of several university laboratories. (Not necessarily
guaranteed food quality though.)

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David Woodhouse

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Aug 21, 2009, 5:20:58 AM8/21/09
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On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:56 +0100, Jon Green wrote:
> I'm surprised no-one's mentioned the old fall-back, bags of frozen peas.
> So long as you've been careful to select a bag that's completely
> intact, you've got a "freezer block" that can be moulded into any shape
> -- which means you get a much better cooling performance because it's in
> maximum surface contact with whatever you're trying to keep cool.
>
> Just don't think of it as a bag'o'peas after it's defrosted...it's a
> "freezer block" for good, now.

Frozen fish works quite well too, in my experience. Especially as a face
pack on your way to casualty, after you foolishly open your car's hot
water expansion bottle too fast.

(In my defence, it wasn't supposed to be sealed; I was driving across
the country with a blown head gasket¹ and stopping to top it up every 50
miles or so, leaving it unpressurised).

--
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¹ and some frozen fish.

magwitch

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Aug 21, 2009, 5:19:15 AM8/21/09
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Way back when, I remember a boyfriend having his ear pierced with my
assistance on frozen pea detail (holding the bag until he summoned up
the courage to stab the hot needle through his lobe).

Why he wouldn't get it done by a professional I'll never know.

charliejuggler

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Aug 21, 2009, 5:22:13 AM8/21/09
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Jon Green wrote:

>
> Now, how do I get a supply of liquid N2? Haven't squared that circle,
> yet. All ideas welcomed - there's a bunch of things I'd love to demo
> for my kids, aside from ice cream!

This seems a perfect time to mention
http://www.redmeat.com/redmeat/2009-06-23/index.html

C
>
> Jon

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Jon Green

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Aug 21, 2009, 6:04:37 AM8/21/09
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:)

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Jon Fairbairn

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Aug 22, 2009, 5:27:59 AM8/22/09
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"Duncan Wood" <nntp...@dmx512.co.uk> writes:

So you I suspect you want about 20.6 %NaCl by weight, giving a freezing
point of -17°C (or set your freezer lower).

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Duncan Wood

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Aug 22, 2009, 5:45:30 AM8/22/09
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:27:59 +0100, Jon Fairbairn
<jon.fa...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> "Duncan Wood" <nntp...@dmx512.co.uk> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:56:36 +0100, Roland Perry
>> <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <ZMf*f4...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, at
>>> 21:54:47 on Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Theo Markettos
>>> <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> remarked:
>>>>> Water has a high specific heat capacity. Just make ice
>>>>> cubes and put in a
>>>>> plastic bag?
>>>>
>>>> And if you want them colder, add salt before freezing.
>>>
>>> My freezer works at -18c, does it cool salty things down
>>> to a different temperature than non-salty ones?
>>
>> No, but the temperature at which they absorb the most energy
>> & the one they spend almost all their time in a cool box at
>> is their melting point.
>
> So you I suspect you want about 20.6 %NaCl by weight, giving a freezing

> point of -17ᅵC (or set your freezer lower).
>

Although I'm not sure how much the latent heat of fusion varies with
solution concentration?

Jon Fairbairn

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Aug 22, 2009, 10:30:26 AM8/22/09
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"Duncan Wood" <nntp...@dmx512.co.uk> writes:

> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:27:59 +0100, Jon Fairbairn
> <jon.fa...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Duncan Wood" <nntp...@dmx512.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:56:36 +0100, Roland Perry
>>> <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> My freezer works at -18c, does it cool salty things down
>>>> to a different temperature than non-salty ones?
>>>
>>> No, but the temperature at which they absorb the most energy
>>> & the one they spend almost all their time in a cool box at
>>> is their melting point.
>>
>> So you I suspect you want about 20.6 %NaCl by weight, giving a freezing

>> point of -17°C (or set your freezer lower).


>>
>
> Although I'm not sure how much the latent heat of fusion
> varies with solution concentration?

Good question. I was assuming that it's positive, but I may easily be
wrong. (Googling tells me that the effective heat of fusion of brine is
less than that of pure water until the whole thing is solid, which is
what one would expect, but the only reference I've found on line so far
that promised the answer is the complete text of a book, in which the
information is in a table... which is not included in the on-line text)

Eleanor Blair

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Aug 24, 2009, 11:35:44 AM8/24/09
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Elizabeth Cook wrote:
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>Yes, that's the problem. Everyone says "We used to have them..."

I had the same trouble trying to buy shorts before going on holiday last
week. No-one's seems to be stocking them any more, and I couldn't even
find any on the sale rails, or in the sportswear section in M&S. And
I'm a different size than I was when they *were* selling them, so I'm
struggling a bit with the ones I own already bought in the right part of
previous years.

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natasa.pesi...@gmail.com

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Great idea with the small bottles. Perfect solution and sooo practical. Thanks
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