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Best place to watch Cambridge fireworks (apart from main crowded area)?
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jcg.s...@gmail.com
Oct 28, 2012, 12:55:19 PM10/28/12
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The previous time I lived in Cambridge, I used to watch the fireworks from Limekiln Hill, to avoid the worst of the crowds. Now I've moved away and come back, only to find that that's closed off each year (apparently on `health and safety' grounds, although it's probably a lot safer than being in crowds near the fireworks, so I suspect it's a scheme to get people who drive in to pay to use the council's car parks, buy things from tat vendors, etc).
Any recommendations for where to watch from, other than the Midsummer Common area? Possibilities I've thought of so far (but perhaps the council will have closed them too): Castle Hill, Elizabeth Way Bridge, Granham's Hill, Worts Causeway/Shelford Road (Fulbourn), Gog Magogs (Wandlebury).
I think some current or recent councillors read this list... do you know whether there's any democratic input on such road closures?
__John
Any recommendations for where to watch from, other than the Midsummer Common area? Possibilities I've thought of so far (but perhaps the council will have closed them too): Castle Hill, Elizabeth Way Bridge, Granham's Hill, Worts Causeway/Shelford Road (Fulbourn), Gog Magogs (Wandlebury).
I think some current or recent councillors read this list... do you know whether there's any democratic input on such road closures?
__John
Alan
Oct 28, 2012, 2:30:28 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:55:19 -0000, <jcg.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The previous time I lived in Cambridge, I used to watch the fireworks
> from Limekiln Hill, to avoid the worst of the crowds. Now I've moved
> away and come back, only to find that that's closed off each year
> (apparently on `health and safety' grounds, although it's probably a lot
> safer than being in crowds near the fireworks, so I suspect it's a
> scheme to get people who drive in to pay to use the council's car parks,
> buy things from tat vendors, etc).
>
> Any recommendations for where to watch from, other than the Midsummer
> Common area? Possibilities I've thought of so far (but perhaps the
> council will have closed them too): Castle Hill, Elizabeth Way Bridge,
> Granham's Hill, Worts Causeway/Shelford Road (Fulbourn), Gog Magogs
> (Wandlebury).
I might be wrong, but I think they close EW bridge to viewers as well.
> The previous time I lived in Cambridge, I used to watch the fireworks
> from Limekiln Hill, to avoid the worst of the crowds. Now I've moved
> away and come back, only to find that that's closed off each year
> (apparently on `health and safety' grounds, although it's probably a lot
> safer than being in crowds near the fireworks, so I suspect it's a
> scheme to get people who drive in to pay to use the council's car parks,
> buy things from tat vendors, etc).
>
> Any recommendations for where to watch from, other than the Midsummer
> Common area? Possibilities I've thought of so far (but perhaps the
> council will have closed them too): Castle Hill, Elizabeth Way Bridge,
> Granham's Hill, Worts Causeway/Shelford Road (Fulbourn), Gog Magogs
> (Wandlebury).
>
> I think some current or recent councillors read this list... do you know
> whether there's any democratic input on such road closures?
>
> __John
Alan
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Jon Anderson
Oct 28, 2012, 3:01:50 PM10/28/12
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the way. Shelford Road won't be much cop as it is too far away and
Limekiln Hill probably blocks the view. I think quit a few people look
from Elizabeth Way, but it would be even better from the footbridge over
the river a little bit closer.
The truly best place is in front of the boathouses as it's nowhere near
as crowded as the common.
Jon
rosen...@cix.compulink.co.uk
Oct 28, 2012, 3:20:23 PM10/28/12
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In article <0b26e325-19ac-4369...@googlegroups.com>,
Why not just come early enough to get onto Midsummer Common?
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Colin Rosenstiel
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John Sturdy
Oct 28, 2012, 4:12:18 PM10/28/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:20:24 PM UTC, rosen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> Why not just come early enough to get onto Midsummer Common?
Because being in such a big crowd would destroy the pleasure of watching the fireworks!
> Why not just come early enough to get onto Midsummer Common?
Why are the council keen to get people onto Midsummer Common?
__John
rosen...@cix.compulink.co.uk
Oct 28, 2012, 4:53:21 PM10/28/12
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In article <6ccf51bb-6592-4f7e...@googlegroups.com>,
I don't think they are particularly. You wanted to get a good view and one
does from the common.
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Colin Rosenstiel
does from the common.
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Colin Rosenstiel
Tim Ward
Oct 28, 2012, 4:58:54 PM10/28/12
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On 28/10/2012 16:55, jcg.s...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I think some current or recent councillors read this list... do you
> know whether there's any democratic input on such road closures?
Nobody has ever asked me, but then I'm a city councillor and road
>
> I think some current or recent councillors read this list... do you
> know whether there's any democratic input on such road closures?
closures are highway and therefore county council.
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Tim Ward
Oct 28, 2012, 4:59:52 PM10/28/12
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On 28/10/2012 20:12, John Sturdy wrote:
>
> Because being in such a big crowd would destroy the pleasure of
> watching the fireworks!
The "crowd" is actually quite sparse, you don't notice the other people
>
> Because being in such a big crowd would destroy the pleasure of
> watching the fireworks!
around you whilst the fireworks are on.
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The Natural Philosopher
Oct 28, 2012, 6:06:45 PM10/28/12
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> __John
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Theo Markettos
Oct 28, 2012, 7:31:53 PM10/28/12
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jcg.s...@gmail.com wrote:
> Any recommendations for where to watch from, other than the Midsummer
> Common area? Possibilities I've thought of so far (but perhaps the
> council will have closed them too): Castle Hill, Elizabeth Way Bridge,
> Granham's Hill, Worts Causeway/Shelford Road (Fulbourn), Gog Magogs
> (Wandlebury).
Granham's Hill was a reasonable vantage point a few years ago, though a
> Any recommendations for where to watch from, other than the Midsummer
> Common area? Possibilities I've thought of so far (but perhaps the
> council will have closed them too): Castle Hill, Elizabeth Way Bridge,
> Granham's Hill, Worts Causeway/Shelford Road (Fulbourn), Gog Magogs
> (Wandlebury).
little far away from the action (especially if it's cloudy). Also
interesting for the view of flights into the airport while proceedings were
underway - looked like they were landing under sniper fire. It was shared
with some local wildlife, but none of the human persuasion. Needless to
say, it wasn't closed.
Theo
Hamish
Oct 29, 2012, 8:32:47 AM10/29/12
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> The truly best place is in front of the boathouses as it's nowhere near
> as crowded as the common.
The few times I've done that it's always been downwind, so as well as an
> as crowded as the common.
excellent view I got showered with burning debris. It made it all rather
exciting.
Ben Blaukopf
Oct 29, 2012, 7:16:35 PM10/29/12
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On Oct 28, 4:55 pm, jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
> The previous time I lived in Cambridge, I used to watch the fireworks from Limekiln Hill, to avoid the worst of the crowds. Now I've moved away and come back, only to find that that's closed off each year (apparently on `health and safety' grounds, although it's probably a lot safer than being in crowds near the fireworks, so I suspect it's a scheme to get people who drive in to pay to use the council's car parks, buy things from tat vendors, etc).
>
> Any recommendations for where to watch from, other than the Midsummer Common area? Possibilities I've thought of so far (but perhaps the council will have closed them too): Castle Hill, Elizabeth Way Bridge, Granham's Hill, Worts Causeway/Shelford Road (Fulbourn), Gog Magogs (Wandlebury).
Elizabeth Way Bridge is always closed.
> The previous time I lived in Cambridge, I used to watch the fireworks from Limekiln Hill, to avoid the worst of the crowds. Now I've moved away and come back, only to find that that's closed off each year (apparently on `health and safety' grounds, although it's probably a lot safer than being in crowds near the fireworks, so I suspect it's a scheme to get people who drive in to pay to use the council's car parks, buy things from tat vendors, etc).
>
> Any recommendations for where to watch from, other than the Midsummer Common area? Possibilities I've thought of so far (but perhaps the council will have closed them too): Castle Hill, Elizabeth Way Bridge, Granham's Hill, Worts Causeway/Shelford Road (Fulbourn), Gog Magogs (Wandlebury).
I believe some people got kicked off Castle Hill back in June (May
Ball fireworks). I certainly wouldn't expect it to be uncrowded!
Little Treess Hill seems like a possibility, though the carpark off
Stapleford Road shuts fairly early. I don't think Wandlebury carpark
shuts - but is there anywhere up there that has a view over Cambridge?
We watch the fireworks from the East side of St Andrews rec (Church
St) which has a reasonable view. I presume there might also be a good
view from the top of the car parks.
Jacob Nevins
Oct 29, 2012, 8:46:37 PM10/29/12
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Hamish <in...@h-amishsymington.com> writes:
> [Jon Anderson]:
Oh, interesting.
The letter they send to nearby residents does say
"Viewing is discouraged in front of the boathouses north of the
River Cam, which is behind the fallout zone for the display."
> [Jon Anderson]:
The letter they send to nearby residents does say
"Viewing is discouraged in front of the boathouses north of the
River Cam, which is behind the fallout zone for the display."
tony sayer
Oct 30, 2012, 5:50:01 AM10/30/12
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In article <da69d1a5-57cc-42d5...@p11g2000vbi.googlegroup
s.com>, Ben Blaukopf <bbla...@airsource.co.uk> scribeth thus
too far out for observing fireworks properly you need the sound channel
as well as the vision;)...
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Tony Sayer
s.com>, Ben Blaukopf <bbla...@airsource.co.uk> scribeth thus
>On Oct 28, 4:55 pm, jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The previous time I lived in Cambridge, I used to watch the fireworks from
>Limekiln Hill, to avoid the worst of the crowds. Now I've moved away and come
>back, only to find that that's closed off each year (apparently on `health and
>safety' grounds, although it's probably a lot safer than being in crowds near
>the fireworks, so I suspect it's a scheme to get people who drive in to pay to
>use the council's car parks, buy things from tat vendors, etc).
>>
>> Any recommendations for where to watch from, other than the Midsummer Common
>area? Possibilities I've thought of so far (but perhaps the council will have
>closed them too): Castle Hill, Elizabeth Way Bridge, Granham's Hill, Worts
>Causeway/Shelford Road (Fulbourn), Gog Magogs (Wandlebury).
>
>Elizabeth Way Bridge is always closed.
>I believe some people got kicked off Castle Hill back in June (May
>Ball fireworks). I certainly wouldn't expect it to be uncrowded!
>Little Treess Hill seems like a possibility, though the carpark off
>Stapleford Road shuts fairly early. I don't think Wandlebury carpark
>shuts - but is there anywhere up there that has a view over Cambridge?
Well there is but you'd now be allowed up there, besides it really is
>> The previous time I lived in Cambridge, I used to watch the fireworks from
>Limekiln Hill, to avoid the worst of the crowds. Now I've moved away and come
>back, only to find that that's closed off each year (apparently on `health and
>safety' grounds, although it's probably a lot safer than being in crowds near
>the fireworks, so I suspect it's a scheme to get people who drive in to pay to
>use the council's car parks, buy things from tat vendors, etc).
>>
>> Any recommendations for where to watch from, other than the Midsummer Common
>area? Possibilities I've thought of so far (but perhaps the council will have
>closed them too): Castle Hill, Elizabeth Way Bridge, Granham's Hill, Worts
>Causeway/Shelford Road (Fulbourn), Gog Magogs (Wandlebury).
>
>Elizabeth Way Bridge is always closed.
>I believe some people got kicked off Castle Hill back in June (May
>Ball fireworks). I certainly wouldn't expect it to be uncrowded!
>Little Treess Hill seems like a possibility, though the carpark off
>Stapleford Road shuts fairly early. I don't think Wandlebury carpark
>shuts - but is there anywhere up there that has a view over Cambridge?
too far out for observing fireworks properly you need the sound channel
as well as the vision;)...
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Jon Anderson
Nov 2, 2012, 9:38:46 PM11/2/12
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from bits in my beer when the wind was going the wrong way as Hamish
mentions.
Fallout zones are rather dependent on wind.
Jon
John Sturdy
Nov 5, 2012, 4:44:54 PM11/5/12
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As the traffic was jammed up as a knock-on effect of a collision on the A14, and I had driven in today, I just got a limited view while going for a walk along Milton Road near the Science Park! Maybe a webcam would have been the best solution.
__John
__John
Tim Ward
Nov 5, 2012, 5:43:02 PM11/5/12
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another option.
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Jon Anderson
Nov 5, 2012, 7:06:39 PM11/5/12
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Nicely paced and the finale was a proper crescendo.
Jon
Naich
Nov 6, 2012, 3:45:53 AM11/6/12
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seen before. The finale temporarily removed the kids' power of speech,
which is quite an acheivement.
Naich.
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Hamish
Nov 6, 2012, 4:22:59 AM11/6/12
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> The finale temporarily removed the kids' power of speech,
> which is quite an acheivement.
I just stood there giggling at the finale; it was really, really good.
> which is quite an acheivement.
(So was the thermos of mulled wine...)
tony sayer
Nov 6, 2012, 5:46:40 AM11/6/12
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In article <afqtnm...@mid.individual.net>, Tim Ward
<t...@brettward.co.uk> scribeth thus
JOOI these PPL licensees or commercial, and at night over Cam do you
have to fly a twin ?...
Saw two of them out over Trumpington but couldn't hear much 'cos of the
munitions;!)...
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Tony Sayer
<t...@brettward.co.uk> scribeth thus
have to fly a twin ?...
Saw two of them out over Trumpington but couldn't hear much 'cos of the
munitions;!)...
--
Tony Sayer
Tim Ward
Nov 6, 2012, 6:01:17 AM11/6/12
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On 06/11/2012 10:46, tony sayer wrote:
>
> JOOI these PPL licensees or commercial, and at night over Cam do you
> have to fly a twin ?...
Can't tell from the ground, all we could see were some nav lights and
>
> JOOI these PPL licensees or commercial, and at night over Cam do you
> have to fly a twin ?...
strobes! - there's no reason why a PPL (with night rating) couldn't fly
around around (provided their passengers weren't paying, give or take
the cost sharing rules).
You'd need to obey the glide clear rule, so that means either being high
enough or having more than one engine. You can fly low over the city
with a single engine ignoring the glide clear rule only whilst landing
at or taking off from Marshalls, so that won't cover flying round and
round a firework display.
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www.brettward.co.uk
Jon Green
Nov 6, 2012, 7:12:23 AM11/6/12
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definitely the best we've seen. There was simply no let-up. Just when
you think they've come to the climax...it's just a road-bump on the way
to bigger things...time and time again. Wow.
Jon
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tony sayer
Nov 6, 2012, 9:56:04 AM11/6/12
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In article <afs8vt...@mid.individual.net>, Tim Ward
<t...@brettward.co.uk> scribeth thus
Ah!, I'm enlightened .. thanks...
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Brian L Johnson
Nov 7, 2012, 2:27:25 AM11/7/12
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Jon Green <jo...@deadspam.com> wrote:
> On 06/11/2012 00:06, Jon Anderson wrote:
>> On 5/11/2012 9:44 PM, John Sturdy wrote:
>>> As the traffic was jammed up as a knock-on effect of a collision on
>>> the A14, and I had driven in today, I just got a limited view while
>>> going for a walk along Milton Road near the Science Park! Maybe a
>>> webcam would have been the best solution.
>>
>> It was very good. Certainly the best Cambridge display I've yet seen.
>> Nicely paced and the finale was a proper crescendo.
>
> We've been going to the Cambridge displays since 1986, and that was
> definitely the best we've seen. There was simply no let-up. Just when
> you think they've come to the climax...it's just a road-bump on the way
> to bigger things...time and time again. Wow.
Yes, everyone in my party agreed that it was the best within memory.
> On 06/11/2012 00:06, Jon Anderson wrote:
>> On 5/11/2012 9:44 PM, John Sturdy wrote:
>>> As the traffic was jammed up as a knock-on effect of a collision on
>>> the A14, and I had driven in today, I just got a limited view while
>>> going for a walk along Milton Road near the Science Park! Maybe a
>>> webcam would have been the best solution.
>>
>> It was very good. Certainly the best Cambridge display I've yet seen.
>> Nicely paced and the finale was a proper crescendo.
>
> We've been going to the Cambridge displays since 1986, and that was
> definitely the best we've seen. There was simply no let-up. Just when
> you think they've come to the climax...it's just a road-bump on the way
> to bigger things...time and time again. Wow.
But... bigger and bigger bangs are all very well, but I'd like to hear
more whooshes, screamers, pop-pop-pops, etc.
And if the finale could spell out the cost of the whole enterprise in
glowing letters of fire, that'd be good too. :)
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Tim Ward
Nov 7, 2012, 3:16:16 AM11/7/12
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On 07/11/2012 07:27, Brian L Johnson wrote:
>
> And if the finale could spell out the cost of the whole enterprise in
> glowing letters of fire, that'd be good too. :)
Possibly negative, once you've taken into account all the domestic and
>
> And if the finale could spell out the cost of the whole enterprise in
> glowing letters of fire, that'd be good too. :)
smaller scale shows that it replaces and the cost to the NHS thereof -
the council fireworks are to a significant extent an H&S policy.
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Brian L Johnson
Nov 7, 2012, 12:21:09 PM11/7/12
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would be appropriate. :)
Interesting point about the H&S though; I'd not thought of that.
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