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atruelove

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:01:17 AM12/7/05
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http://www.philiplarkin.com/
called "About Larkin" (geddit?)
is one of those rare things where you get back more than you put in.
The 10th anniv Society pub is a perfect-bound book that will easily
fetch GBP 100-200 in a few yrs time on eBay.
(Made poss by a bequest..)
Havent made it to any of the Garden Parties, weekends etc-- these will
appeal to you if you like the company of bearded English Profs. from
all over..

atruelove

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:02:35 AM12/7/05
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For Larking read Larkin
(I was thinking about the punning Soc name)

Frinkenstein

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:06:42 AM12/7/05
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atruelove wrote:
> For Larking read Larkin
> (I was thinking about the punning Soc name)

Q: What do you think of Larkin?

A: I don't know, I've never larked.

:-)

--
"Oh dear, I've been RE-DORKULATED!"

atruelove

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:10:40 AM12/7/05
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Very good (even if based on the old one --- Kipling - Kippled--- !)
Are there any others ??

EKur...@aol.com

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:13:16 AM12/7/05
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atruelove wrote:
> http://www.philiplarkin.com/
> called "About Larkin" (geddit?)

Probably most American readers will not, since the reversed form is not
US vernac.
I wonder how many see the relevance of the amphibian in the logo (clue:
its not a frog). Again, few US readers, since in the US work is a form
of self-realization, not (as in the UK) a form of oppression, so
Larkin's metaphor will seem enigmatic.

joeh

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:16:51 AM12/7/05
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EKurt...@aol.com wrote:

> atruelove wrote:
> > http://www.philiplarkin.com/
> > called "About Larkin" (geddit?)
>
> Probably most American readers will not, since the reversed form is not
> US vernac.
> I wonder how many see the relevance of the amphibian in the logo (clue:
> its not a frog). Again, few US readers, since in the US work is a form
> of self-realization, not (as in the UK) a form of oppression, so
> Larkin's metaphor will seem enigmatic.

In the UK of course, Larkin is better known as the genial paterfamilias
in 'The Darling Buds of May', the televesion version of which
introduced Catherine Zeta-Jones to our wondering gaze.

Larkin also appeared on stage in film and on TV as 'Eric Morecombe'
(the tall skinny one with glasses) alongside Ernie Wise.

Frinkenstein

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:22:43 AM12/7/05
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atruelove wrote:

> Very good (even if based on the old one --- Kipling - Kippled--- !)
> Are there any others ??

Do you like Aretha Franklin?

I didn't know she frankled?

Martin Evans

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:39:03 AM12/7/05
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atruelove wrote:

> Very good (even if based on the old one --- Kipling - Kippled--- !)
> Are there any others ??

Do you like Dickens? - I don't know, I've never been to one!


JimC

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:42:36 AM12/7/05
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joeh wrote:
> EKurt...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > atruelove wrote:
> > > http://www.philiplarkin.com/
> > > called "About Larkin" (geddit?)
> >
> > Probably most American readers will not, since the reversed form is not
> > US vernac.
> > I wonder how many see the relevance of the amphibian in the logo (clue:
> > its not a frog).


Clue: it is a frog.


>
> In the UK of course, Larkin is better known as the genial paterfamilias
> in 'The Darling Buds of May', the televesion version of which
> introduced Catherine Zeta-Jones to our wondering gaze.
>
> Larkin also appeared on stage in film and on TV as 'Eric Morecombe'
> (the tall skinny one with glasses) alongside Ernie Wise.

Was he ever on with his pal Kingsley Amis? What I mean is,
were they allowed on together live? Their banter was
usually a low level dirty joke. Despite the good wit, he
went quite racist in the last years of his life. Was it
premature arteriosclerosis?

joeh

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:47:16 AM12/7/05
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JimC wrote:

> joeh wrote:

> > In the UK of course, Larkin is better known as the genial paterfamilias
> > in 'The Darling Buds of May', the televesion version of which
> > introduced Catherine Zeta-Jones to our wondering gaze.
> >
> > Larkin also appeared on stage in film and on TV as 'Eric Morecombe'
> > (the tall skinny one with glasses) alongside Ernie Wise.
>
> Was he ever on with his pal Kingsley Amis? What I mean is,
> were they allowed on together live? Their banter was
> usually a low level dirty joke. Despite the good wit, he
> went quite racist in the last years of his life. Was it
> premature arteriosclerosis?

Larkin was racist from a relatively early age. Amis went from being a
lefty Angry Young Man to being a right-wing Angry Old Fart.

I must admit however that I find their correspondence side-splittingly
funny despite, or because of, its extreme political incorrectness.

DVH

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Dec 7, 2005, 1:54:22 PM12/7/05
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"atruelove" <alan_t...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133971840....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> Very good (even if based on the old one --- Kipling - Kippled--- !)
> Are there any others ??
>

WILL there never come a season
Which shall rid us from the curse
Of a prose which knows no reason
And an unmelodious verse:
When the world shall cease to wonder
At the genius of an ass,
And a boy's eccentric blunder
Shall not bring success to pass:

When mankind shall be delivered
From the clash of magazines,
And the inkstand shall be shivered
Into countless smithereens:
When there stands a muzzled stripling,
Mute, beside a muzzled bore:
When the Rudyards cease from kipling
And the Haggards ride no more.

(Lapsus Calami - James Kenneth Stephen (1859-92))
http://www.bartleby.com/246/1065.html


ib011...@blueyonder.co.uk

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Dec 7, 2005, 6:34:15 PM12/7/05
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I hate Larkin,overrated tory git.
I loved the Morning Star headline when he died "popular poet dies in
private hospital"
That is what I call a put down.

Sammy

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Dec 7, 2005, 7:04:25 PM12/7/05
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"Martin Evans" <Martin...@arm.com> wrote in message
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I prefer, 'Yes, but not on a first date'.

tee hee
Sammy


atruelove

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Dec 8, 2005, 6:42:09 AM12/8/05
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(a) "About Larkin"-
yes but all Larkin fanciers wld also be anglophiles steeped in Brit TV
sitcoms
(b) I didnt notice any Larkin race-realism in the Amis letters-book, or
other books, but I prob skipped over it -- K Amis, I think, altho'
pro-forma loonily multiculti, has - possibly - Black American jokes
(eg in One Fat Englishman). --
Come on now, K. Amis & Larkin would have (should have) made
mincemeat of the PC culture- there can be no doubt of this. I suppose
the timing was wrong, or else K. Amis was understandably prudent re
possible Visiting Professorships, lecture tours and the like.
(c) Hadnt noticed the FROG & would like to learn more
(but I certainly havent read all the poems)

EKur...@aol.com

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Dec 8, 2005, 9:51:45 AM12/8/05
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With regard to c):
I thought the frog was a toad, a reference to one of Larkin's better
known poems, see below. But according to the website: "The Society's
emblem is not, as one might suppose, a toad, but a drawing of the small
jade frog which Larkin kept as an ornament on his desk, at work at The
Brynmor Jones Library at the University of Hull." Pretty pointless,
since how many people know what PL kept on his desk, or care?

http://www.poetryconnection.net/poets/Philip_Larkin/4819

Toads

Why should I let the toad work
Squat on my life?
Can't I use my wit as a pitchfork
And drive the brute off?

Six days of the week it soils
With its sickening poison -
Just for paying a few bills!
That's out of proportion.

Lots of folk live on their wits:
Lecturers, lispers,
Losels, loblolly-men, louts-
They don't end as paupers;

Lots of folk live up lanes
With fires in a bucket,
Eat windfalls and tinned sardines-
they seem to like it.

Their nippers have got bare feet,
Their unspeakable wives
Are skinny as whippets - and yet
No one actually starves.

Ah, were I courageous enough
To shout Stuff your pension!
But I know, all too well, that's the stuff
That dreams are made on:

For something sufficiently toad-like
Squats in me, too;
Its hunkers are heavy as hard luck,
And cold as snow,

And will never allow me to blarney
My way of getting
The fame and the girl and the money
All at one sitting.

I don't say, one bodies the other
One's spiritual truth;
But I do say it's hard to lose either,
When you have both.

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