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Kermit

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Jul 9, 2011, 9:32:12 AM7/9/11
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Hi,
I'm getting 02018 and 02021 phone numbers. Anyone else getting this
and any idea what it is all about? The usual silence on the other end.

Cheers
Peter

rosen...@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Jul 9, 2011, 1:00:41 PM7/9/11
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In article <ALYRp.5476$Zm3....@newsfe11.ams2>,
peter_...@ntlworld.com.No.Spam (Kermit) wrote:

What was the rest of the numbers? 020 is London.

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Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry

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Jul 9, 2011, 1:12:43 PM7/9/11
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In message <9NmdnW1h59OkFIXT...@giganews.com>, at 12:00:41
on Sat, 9 Jul 2011, rosen...@cix.compulink.co.uk remarked:

>> I'm getting 02018 and 02021 phone numbers. Anyone else getting
>> this and any idea what it is all about? The usual silence on the
>> other end.
>
>What was the rest of the numbers? 020 is London.

Here's a chart of 020-1xxx numbers (the only 020-18xx are COLT)

http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/s1_code_allocations.php?GNG=201

That resource doesn't seem to think any 020-2xxx numbers are live.

I'd expect that someone was spoofing CLI on these calls (I got a silent
call earlier today that was 0808080808x..x, very suspicious).
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Roland Perry

CWatters

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Jul 9, 2011, 1:47:02 PM7/9/11
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Google can find one or two examples of 02021 phone numbers but I suppose
they could be mistakes..

http://www.watersportswales.co.uk/directory/boattrips.htm
Shearwater Safaris
Tel:02021 445529

http://www.weddingstationerybyjoannesummers.co.uk/products
3, Hickly High Street
Hickly
Stoke Newington
London
Tel 02021 345 678

Martin Saxon

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Jul 9, 2011, 2:43:58 PM7/9/11
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Shearwater Safaris is 08081 445529

The Joanne Summers number looks like an overlooked placeholder, and is
not the same as the number on the /contact-us page

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Martin

Kermit

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Jul 9, 2011, 6:02:20 PM7/9/11
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The caller display only shows 02018 and 02021. When I answer it's always
silent.

Roland Perry

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Jul 10, 2011, 3:25:33 AM7/10/11
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In message <Pd4Sp.32362$m22....@newsfe05.ams2>, at 23:02:20 on Sat, 9
Jul 2011, Kermit <peter_...@ntlworld.com.No.Spam> remarked:

>The caller display only shows 02018 and 02021. When I answer it's
>always silent.

A spammer.
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Roland Perry

Kermit

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Jul 10, 2011, 3:50:08 PM7/10/11
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Does that mean the phone just rings for the hell of it?

Roland Perry

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Jul 10, 2011, 5:10:42 PM7/10/11
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In message <QnnSp.26989$NX1....@newsfe18.ams2>, at 20:50:08 on Sun, 10
Jul 2011, Kermit <peter_...@ntlworld.com.No.Spam> remarked:

>>> The caller display only shows 02018 and 02021. When I answer it's
>>> always silent.
>>
>> A spammer.
>
>Does that mean the phone just rings for the hell of it?

Yes. Quite likely caused by a [calling] machine that's been badly
programmed.
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Roland Perry

Kermit

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Jul 10, 2011, 6:04:24 PM7/10/11
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OK. Thanks!

CWatters

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Jul 11, 2011, 3:13:12 AM7/11/11
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Andrew Cleland

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Jul 11, 2011, 4:27:19 AM7/11/11
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Being an ex-Stoke Newingtonite, I can't say I ever came across Hickly as
a district of Stokey, which is a district of the LB Hackney itself.

AC>

Michael Kilpatrick

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Jul 11, 2011, 4:34:31 AM7/11/11
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On 11/07/2011 08:13, CWatters wrote:
> On 09/07/2011 14:32, Kermit wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm getting 02018 and 02021 phone numbers. Anyone else getting this and
>> any idea what it is all about? The usual silence on the other end.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Peter
>
> Register with the TPS if not already done. Stops most but not all junk
> calls.
>
> There are also devices like..
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/TrueCall-The-Nuisance-Call-Blocker/dp/B002GP7HQM


I don't get it. If you receive the odd call from overseas
(mother-in-law, etc) then you generally need to answer such calls.
Therefore you can't just block all calls which have no caller ID owing
to an overseas origin. In that case, you have to instruct the
call-blocker to put all such calls on hold and then ring the phone so
that you can pick up and decide what do to. Assuming that a fair number
of the Indian call-centre droids may not hang up but will hold, you
still end up having to pick up the phone when one of them calls you,
because you have to tell the Call-blocker what to do with the call. D'oh!


Michael

Rupert Moss-Eccardt

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Jul 11, 2011, 6:40:42 AM7/11/11
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I think you've missed a couple of things:

Firstly, not all international calls come up with Withheld or
Unavailable. And, indeed, if you choose your telco with care, many more
international numbers are presented.

Secondly, the call centres typically use predictive diallers but are
clever enough to spot an automated answering device. I've seen calls
come in but have never had any of that sort actually respond to the
voice prompt and hang on. After all, there's no profit in it.


rosen...@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Jul 11, 2011, 7:24:35 AM7/11/11
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In article <98026k...@mid.individual.net>, r.moss-...@computer.org
(Rupert Moss-Eccardt) wrote:

> Secondly, the call centres typically use predictive diallers but
> are clever enough to spot an automated answering device. I've seen
> calls come in but have never had any of that sort actually respond
> to the voice prompt and hang on. After all, there's no profit in it.

Loads of my nuisance calls ring off anyway. No answering device in sight.

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Colin Rosenstiel

CWatters

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Jul 11, 2011, 10:49:12 AM7/11/11
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No some of these machines work as follows... They detect a lack of
caller ID and play a message asking the caller to identify themselves
verbally. If there is no answer (eg a silent call) the call is blocked.

If the caller says "It's mum calling from Australia" the machine records
that, then rings the phone and plays the recorded message to you.

Obviously the call centers could lie or make some other noise to get
past the machine but in my experience not many will leave a message on
an answerphone.

The Natural Philosopher

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Jul 11, 2011, 12:51:27 PM7/11/11
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No, generally firms use autodiallers set to detect 'no answer, ' answer'
or 'line unavailable'.

Generally if you pick up, your number goes to a list of 'valid numbers
to call back at this time'..

And a (sub) human will.

Kermit

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Jul 11, 2011, 5:10:07 PM7/11/11
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Strangely enough it did not happen at all today. Perhaps I will get a
barrage of calls soon?

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