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si...@longnews.freeserve.co.uk

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Nov 16, 2010, 4:22:32 PM11/16/10
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Just moved into a new house with a water meter - didn't have one in my
old house. I've located the meter in the front garden, and it's a
circular plate about 5" round with a black square of plastic in the
centre labelled "TALISMAN". The water board have refused to come and
take a reading for me, and advised me to pry the black cover off with
a screwdriver. Well, I've now spent 10 minutes putting all my weight
on the end of a 12" flatblade driver pushed under the cover, and it
doesn't pry off - it doesn't even budge. I can remove the circular
cover, but all that reveals is a small water-filled pit with a long
bit of cable snaking down froma protrusion in the back of the cover
into the depths - no meter to be seen, so I presume the meter is in
the bit at the top.

If I hadn't been told otherwise by the water board, I'd think that the
black plastic square is the top of a unit that is held in by the large
plastic lock nut on the back of the cover, and all I am going to
achieve by prying it is to bend my screwdriver or snap the cover, and
I'm reluctant to do that!

Can some kind soul out there who has managed to read a meter like this
please let me in on the secret - many thanks in advance.

S.

Duncan Wood

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Nov 16, 2010, 5:02:59 PM11/16/10
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You want a bigger screwdriver ;-)

Rupert Moss-Eccardt

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Nov 16, 2010, 5:18:32 PM11/16/10
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The meter is in the water-filled pit.

The screwdriver is to lift the metal cover, which you have done. The
meter is at the far end of the wire. The near end is purely a
transceiver for the gadget the meter reader carries to read it.

So down into the depths you must go. Down there you will probably also
find a stop cock which you might find useful in the future.

tony sayer

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Nov 16, 2010, 5:47:13 PM11/16/10
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In article <3rDEo.103673$MZ3....@newsfe29.ams2>, Rupert Moss-Eccardt
<r.moss-...@computer.org> scribeth thus

Is that Cambridge Water or Anglian water as the Cambridge are usually
very helpful in such matters ....
--
Tony Sayer

Andrew May

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Nov 17, 2010, 4:34:30 AM11/17/10
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tony sayer wrote:

> Is that Cambridge Water or Anglian water as the Cambridge are usually
> very helpful in such matters ....

I'll second that. Always found them very helpful.

Andrew

Sam Holloway

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Nov 18, 2010, 6:42:24 AM11/18/10
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On Nov 16, 10:47 pm, tony sayer <t...@bancom.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <3rDEo.103673$MZ3.86...@newsfe29.ams2>, Rupert Moss-Eccardt
> <r.moss-ecca...@computer.org> scribeth thus

In my experience, Anglian Water (who supply us in Ely) have one of the
best call centres that I've found. Always helpful and friendly.

Sam

water

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Nov 19, 2010, 2:03:30 PM11/19/10
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>Is that Cambridge Water or Anglian water as the Cambridge are usually
>very helpful in such matters ....

[Drifting topic]:

Maybe in such matters, but I find it irks that they keep pushing
(seems like a monthly mail shot) for me to take their insurance
against problems in water pipe feed from the street to my house.

I've never had any such probs, and don't know anybody and have never
heared of anybody who has.
5 a month seems like a lot for a one in a million - might as well buy
a lottery ticket (= pay the stupidity tax).
A 5x accumulator on the horses every Saturday would seem a much better
bet.

Before I slag them off too bad, how are their relative prices ? - not
that we have any choice. When I look at my bill, the water doesn't irk
me, it's the sewerage charge that irks me.


Thomas Womack

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Nov 19, 2010, 4:07:56 PM11/19/10
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In article <johde65cbd8ridja2...@4ax.com>,

water <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Is that Cambridge Water or Anglian water as the Cambridge are usually
>>very helpful in such matters ....
>
>[Drifting topic]:
>
>Maybe in such matters, but I find it irks that they keep pushing
>(seems like a monthly mail shot) for me to take their insurance
>against problems in water pipe feed from the street to my house.
>
>I've never had any such probs, and don't know anybody and have never
>heared of anybody who has.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2005/feb/05/utilities.jobsandmoney
says that there were 53,000 repairs of that class in the UK in 2004,
6,000 of which were of the more expensive kind; and half of those more
expensive repairs were paid for by the water company. Coincidentally
this is about the same as the number of house fires, though house
fires are generally much more expensive ... I can't find statistics on
the cost of fires.

It looks like fairly pure scaremongering to me.

Tom

tony sayer

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Nov 19, 2010, 4:12:34 PM11/19/10
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In article <johde65cbd8ridja2...@4ax.com>, water
<Wa...@gmail.com> scribeth thus

water@gmail ?.. Odd mail addy .. still as good as some I suppose...

Its called marketing you can take it .. or leave it you do Not have to
take it. It seems to be a not terribly good deal but then again British
Gas operate similar and prey on FUD. As said take it .. or leave it..

Only pity is that you can't go and buy your water off anyone else like
you can Gas and Leccy where we revise our suppliers from time to time in
order to benefit from the competition in that market..

As to comparisons it seems to me that there're as good as anyone else
and a bit cheaper than most..

I don't think you could accuse them of any extravagance, they have a
modest company HQ on Fulbourn road .. ISTR that there're now owned by a
Chinese company now might be wrong on that.

However the sewage charge is levied by Anglian Water, and from all I've
seen they do know how to charge!..

Seems rather odd one company to supply and one to take away but there it
is ..

Dunno why the Cambridge never went into the "muck away" bizz seems its a
decent earner;?....
--
Tony Sayer


water

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Nov 19, 2010, 4:55:39 PM11/19/10
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:12:34 +0000, tony sayer <to...@bancom.co.uk>
>water@gmail ?.. Odd mail addy .. still as good as some I suppose...

I value my right to anonymity. I might be Kate Middleton's or Diana's
brother, or your MP, or Prince Philip.

>Its called marketing you can take it .. or leave it you do Not have to
>take it. It seems to be a not terribly good deal but then again British
>Gas operate similar and prey on FUD. As said take it .. or leave it..

The "studpidity tax" take must be quite high - because the cost of
fixing such probs is surely much less than sending the scarmongering
mail shots.

>Only pity is that you can't go and buy your water off anyone else like
>you can Gas and Leccy where we revise our suppliers from time to time in
>order to benefit from the competition in that market..

Agreed.

>However the sewage charge is levied by Anglian Water, and from all I've
>seen they do know how to charge!

Agreed.

water

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Nov 19, 2010, 5:14:44 PM11/19/10
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More seriously,

It seems to me that it's only fair that the water company's
responsibility should end, and consumer's responsibility begin at the
first valve/stop-cock in the house - and that should be part of
building regs.

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Roland Perry

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Nov 20, 2010, 4:22:45 AM11/20/10
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In message <0gtde6p0kqagls12p...@4ax.com>, at 22:14:44 on
Fri, 19 Nov 2010, water <wa...@gmail.com> remarked:

And you'd be happy to let the water board in to inspect (or even
replace) their part of the piping, whenever they reasonably requested?

I'm more inclined to say that if you have a meter, their responsibility
should end there.
--
Roland Perry

tony sayer

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Nov 20, 2010, 5:10:58 AM11/20/10
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In article <0gtde6p0kqagls12p...@4ax.com>, water
<wa...@gmail.com> scribeth thus

Which IIRC is the way it should be. Tho the Cambridge will more often
that not fix a leak anywhere out in the road and on your premises at
their expense. Well thats what they used to do whether or not they still
do that you'd have to ask them!...
--
Tony Sayer

Ian Bidwell

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Nov 20, 2010, 5:24:51 AM11/20/10
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"tony sayer" wrote in message news:nhLq2Jay...@bancom.co.uk...

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Repairing the first leak in your supply pipe is still listed in their code
of practice

Ian

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