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charliejuggler

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Nov 17, 2009, 10:07:41 AM11/17/09
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Hi all,

I have the following to get rid of: one caveat, if you want one of the
PCs I'd like you to take the monitor off my hands as well. Anything
unwanted by the end of this week will go to charity or the tip.

Email is in the headers. Pick from Newmarket Road.

Cheers

Charlie

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1. Older PC - small tower case in beige, AMD K7 450MHz processor, 192MB
RAM, 30GB IDE disk, 3.5" floppy and 52x CD drive, network card

2. Slightly newer PC - medium tower case in beige, AMD Athlon XP 2000+
1.6GHz processor, 768MB RAM, 78GB IDE disk, 3.5" floppy and DVD writer
drive, GeForce II Mx400 video card, firewire, SPDIF digital sound in/out
card

Both PCs will have the hard disks wiped

3. IBM model 6546 colour monitor, looks like 14"

4. IBM full size keyboard, bombproof with proper click action! Very
retro. PS/2 interface

5. Microsoft PS/2 mouse

6. Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis video card, AGP interface

7. GeForce4 MX video card, AGP interface

Marcus streets

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:06:33 AM11/17/09
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charliejuggler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have the following to get rid of: one caveat, if you want one of the
> PCs I'd like you to take the monitor off my hands as well. Anything
> unwanted by the end of this week will go to charity or the tip.
>
> Email is in the headers. Pick from Newmarket Road.
>
> Cheers
>
> Charlie
>
> -----
>
I would be interested in one of the PCs - the newer one if it has not
already gone.

Marcus Streets

charliejuggler

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:11:23 AM11/17/09
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Sure, email me for details

C

Ian Jackson

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:34:55 AM11/18/09
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In article <2%yMm.63118$TK7....@newsfe18.ams2>,

charliejuggler <cha...@juggler.net.nospamthanks> wrote:
>4. IBM full size keyboard, bombproof with proper click action! Very
>retro. PS/2 interface

Don't bin this. Personally I don't much like these, but they have a
cult following. If you haven't disposed of it yet and really want rid
of it I'll take it and pass it on to someone who wants it.

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Jules

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Nov 18, 2009, 11:40:32 AM11/18/09
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:34:55 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

> In article <2%yMm.63118$TK7....@newsfe18.ams2>,
> charliejuggler <cha...@juggler.net.nospamthanks> wrote:
>>4. IBM full size keyboard, bombproof with proper click action! Very
>>retro. PS/2 interface
>
> Don't bin this. Personally I don't much like these, but they have a
> cult following. If you haven't disposed of it yet and really want rid
> of it I'll take it and pass it on to someone who wants it.

The Model M? That's what I use all the time to type on - absolutely love
the thing. I miss the status LEDs at times, though (mine's a really early
one, before they added them as standard). The noise drives the rest of the
family nuts ;)

If anyone goes for this, be aware that you'll need a "proper" PS/2 to USB
convertor which translates protocols if you want to plug it into a machine
via USB (modern keyboards expect a dumb convertor and the smarts are all
in the keyboard to switch protocols according to the connector used - but
of course USB didn't even exist when the Model M was current, so it knows
nothing of such things).

cheers

Jules

Paul Rudin

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Nov 18, 2009, 12:14:26 PM11/18/09
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Ian Jackson <ijac...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:

> In article <2%yMm.63118$TK7....@newsfe18.ams2>,
> charliejuggler <cha...@juggler.net.nospamthanks> wrote:
>>4. IBM full size keyboard, bombproof with proper click action! Very
>>retro. PS/2 interface
>
> Don't bin this. Personally I don't much like these, but they have a
> cult following. If you haven't disposed of it yet and really want rid
> of it I'll take it and pass it on to someone who wants it.

Click action: I have one of these
<http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8396/zoom/>. Nice
clicky thing - but my wife dislikes the noise if she's working in the
same room.

It's main advantage is it puts the kids off trying to use the machine :)

Fevric J. Glandules

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:41:40 PM11/18/09
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Jules wrote:

> The Model M? That's what I use all the time to type on - absolutely love
> the thing. I miss the status LEDs at times, though (mine's a really early
> one, before they added them as standard).

Well old. This one here says "1989-05-01" on the back. And has status
LEDs.

> If anyone goes for this, be aware that you'll need a "proper" PS/2 to USB
> convertor which translates protocols if you want to plug it into a machine

I have no problem using (what I assume is) a dumb PS/2 <-> USB
converter. Didn't cost much, at any rate, and I didn't go looking
for a "special" one.

Jules

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Nov 18, 2009, 6:33:42 PM11/18/09
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:40 +0000, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:

> Jules wrote:
>
>> The Model M? That's what I use all the time to type on - absolutely love
>> the thing. I miss the status LEDs at times, though (mine's a really early
>> one, before they added them as standard).
>
> Well old. This one here says "1989-05-01" on the back. And has status
> LEDs.

OK, mine's a few years earlier - 14th Nov. '86 on it. I think I once read
somewhere that they only made 'em that way for a year or so. (To be fair,
I don't really miss scroll lock and num lock LEDs, but a caps lock one
would be handy. I've not got the tuits together to see if it has solder
pads for them inside - I wouldn't drill the case of course, but I might be
tempted to hang an LED out the back :-)

>> If anyone goes for this, be aware that you'll need a "proper" PS/2 to
>> USB convertor which translates protocols if you want to plug it into a
>> machine
>
> I have no problem using (what I assume is) a dumb PS/2 <-> USB
> converter. Didn't cost much, at any rate, and I didn't go looking for a
> "special" one.

Weird. Not sure how it's doing that, then. Google suggests USB didn't come
about until '96, so the keyboard certainly doesn't have the smarts. Maybe
some motherboards are clever enough, although it surprises me if they went
to the trouble! Maybe you just got lucky and have an intelligent convertor
(they're not exactly expensive, it just seems to be hard to tell what
type* a given one is as they tend not to say on the packaging)

* mine gets detected under Linux as both a "USB keyboard" and "USB mouse"
device regardless of whether I've got a PS/2 mouse or keyboard plugged
into it. After the fact that's probably a good indication as the dumb ones
wouldn't do that...

cheers

Jules

Fevric J. Glandules

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:21:37 PM11/18/09
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Jules wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:40 +0000, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
>
>> I have no problem using (what I assume is) a dumb PS/2 <-> USB
>> converter. Didn't cost much, at any rate, and I didn't go looking for a
>> "special" one.
>
> Weird. Not sure how it's doing that, then. Google suggests USB didn't come

One of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-SBT-PS2U-2-Port-Splitter-Converter/dp/B0007UW0YM

The blurb seems to suggest that it has some smarts.


charliejuggler

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:29:37 AM11/19/09
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Ian Jackson wrote:
> In article <2%yMm.63118$TK7....@newsfe18.ams2>,
> charliejuggler <cha...@juggler.net.nospamthanks> wrote:
>> 4. IBM full size keyboard, bombproof with proper click action! Very
>> retro. PS/2 interface
>
> Don't bin this. Personally I don't much like these, but they have a
> cult following. If you haven't disposed of it yet and really want rid
> of it I'll take it and pass it on to someone who wants it.
>
Don't worry, someone's already claimed it ;-) Personally I find it a bit
clacky, but then I'm currently using a curvy wireless Logitech keyboard,
so obviously I have no soul....

C

Jules

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:30:15 AM11/19/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:21:37 +0000, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
> One of these:
> http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-SBT-PS2U-2-Port-Splitter-Converter/dp/B0007UW0YM
>
> The blurb seems to suggest that it has some smarts.

Indeed. Maybe the fact that it can support two PS/2 devices at once is a
good indication in itself, actually - I'm not sure if that would be
possible without at least some intelligence in the convertor.

Can't really argue with that price, either :-)

cheers

Jules

Jules

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:33:10 AM11/19/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:29:37 +0000, charliejuggler wrote:

> I'm currently using a curvy wireless Logitech keyboard,
> so obviously I have no soul....

:-) It does seem to be one of those things that people either get or
don't get, a bit like Apple products. I just got sick of typing on my
laptop keyboard, which is spongy as hell. The IBM keyboard weighs twice as
much as the laptop does...

charliejuggler

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Nov 20, 2009, 4:41:30 AM11/20/09
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charliejuggler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have the following to get rid of: one caveat, if you want one of the
> PCs I'd like you to take the monitor off my hands as well. Anything
> unwanted by the end of this week will go to charity or the tip.
>
> Email is in the headers. Pick from Newmarket Road.
>
> Cheers
>
> Charlie
>
> -----
>
> 1. Older PC - small tower case in beige, AMD K7 450MHz processor, 192MB
> RAM, 30GB IDE disk, 3.5" floppy and 52x CD drive, network card
>
> 2. Slightly newer PC - medium tower case in beige, AMD Athlon XP 2000+
> 1.6GHz processor, 768MB RAM, 78GB IDE disk, 3.5" floppy and DVD writer
> drive, GeForce II Mx400 video card, firewire, SPDIF digital sound in/out
> card
Now gone

>
> Both PCs will have the hard disks wiped
>
> 3. IBM model 6546 colour monitor, looks like 14"
Now gone

>
> 4. IBM full size keyboard, bombproof with proper click action! Very
> retro. PS/2 interface
Now promised to someone

>
> 5. Microsoft PS/2 mouse
>
> 6. Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis video card, AGP interface
>
> 7. GeForce4 MX video card, AGP interface

Cheers

Charlie

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