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Lakes at the East end of Mill Rd

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Stuart Moore

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Jan 20, 2010, 9:38:28 PM1/20/10
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Hi all

Does anyone know anything about the 3 "lakes" to the East End of Mill
Road / south of the Airport?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mill+road&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=13.835858,33.662109&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Mill+Rd,+Cambridge+CB1,+United+Kingdom&ll=52.194982,0.163894&spn=0.0141,0.032873&t=h&z=15
shows them clearly.

I'm wondering who owns them, and if anyone knows anything about how
deep they are? Are they used for anything? It looks like the northern
most one has a road round it, and possibly a couple of Jetties.

Stuart

Patrick Gosling

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Jan 21, 2010, 3:21:47 AM1/21/10
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In article <5ff6b0a0-7d5c-428c...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

The northern most one appears to be within the land owned by the TA (who
have a base whose entrance is on Coldham's Lane, just next to Sainsburies),
so I'd hazard a guess they use it for training porpoises.

-patrick.

tony sayer

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Jan 21, 2010, 4:22:35 AM1/21/10
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In article <5ff6b0a0-7d5c-428c...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups
.com>, Stuart Moore <st...@stumo.org.uk> scribeth thus

IIRC they were made when the clay was dug out for the Norman cement
works that was close by years ago. The chalk came from Lime Kiln hill
...
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Jon Green

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Jan 21, 2010, 6:26:34 AM1/21/10
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By reputation, very deep. I had believed they were the result of gravel
extraction but, having looked closely, Tony's answer's rather more
likely. Either way, they're man-made.

The TA certainly has the northern-most lake, but the middle lake appears
to have one or two jetties along its northern edge, which suggests
fishing. I haven't heard of them as fishing lakes, though.

There seems to be a car park with access to the middle lake, off
Burnside. If there's any clue to be had about the ownership and use of
the lake, that's probably a good place to start looking.

Jon
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Patrick Byrne

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Jan 21, 2010, 6:27:16 AM1/21/10
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> >I'm wondering who owns them, and if anyone knows anything about how
> >deep they are? Are they used for anything? It looks like the northern
> >most one has a road round it, and possibly a couple of Jetties.
>

A colleague of mine who grew up in Cambridge once told me they are a
popular swimming spot for the youths.

Probably not in January, mind.

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Tim Ward

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Jan 21, 2010, 12:23:59 PM1/21/10
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"Stuart Moore" <st...@stumo.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know anything about the 3 "lakes" to the East End of Mill
> Road / south of the Airport?

I know one thing about them: there's often something of a downdraft there,
so on the approach to 05 I find it useful to be ready to add a bit of power.

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Jon Green

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Jan 21, 2010, 12:42:13 PM1/21/10
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On 21/01/2010 17:23, Tim Ward wrote:
> "Stuart Moore"<st...@stumo.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:5ff6b0a0-7d5c-428c...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Does anyone know anything about the 3 "lakes" to the East End of Mill
>> Road / south of the Airport?
>
> I know one thing about them: there's often something of a downdraft there,
> so on the approach to 05 I find it useful to be ready to add a bit of power.

That's exactly as I'd expect, during daytime. Bodies of water and
forests are classic sink sources. You may find that shortly before
sunset, on a warm day, it switches round and becomes a thermal source
instead, releasing the stored heat. (Forests and woods certainly do do
this -- I had great fun during evening gliding sessions, confounding
everyone expecting me to lose height by thermalling gently over woods
round the back of Duxford, when the Gliding Club operated from there.)

Daniel O'Rourke

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Jan 21, 2010, 4:00:03 PM1/21/10
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I grew up in Cherry Hinton and I vividly remember the lake nearest the
bottom of Millroad/Brookside/Burnside being worked by some form of long
armed dredger to pull clay/chalk from the pit for the blue circle
cememnt works. As a young boy it was a highlight to take the "tins"
path, which ran adjacent to Coldhams lane and the railway line to see
two huge mixing arms slowly stir, what I presume was cement, in two
enourmous vats. There was also some form of industrial lenght conveyer
belt that took clay under the tins path, again, noisy, dirty and quite
exciting for a small boy.


This is now a fishing lake, good for carp and tench if memory serve me
right. You can see some huge commmon carp in the shallows around
breeding season, which I think is march, the shallow end is the burnside
end.

All around the land has been used for refuse, I can remember the smell
of rubbish wafting over the high Steet if the weather was hot and there
was a breeze.

For reference I have never swam in any of the pits, we were filled with
horror stories as children and guided to best avoid the place for fear
of drowning, or freezing to death. I distinctly remember being told
they were very deep. Although not as deep as Barnwll pit according to
my father - who claims has a church and a house submerged beneath.

I found reference to the Cherry Hinton cement works here:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=18808


By 1895 British Portland Cement had established a cement works in the
north-west of the parish between Coldhams Lane and the new northward
route of the railway line into Cambridge. It also acquired the chalk
quarries. (fn. 11) By 1925 it had established a second cement works,
where the railway line crossed Coldhams Lane, which it named Saxon
Portland Cement Works, calling the other Norman Portland Cement Works.
(fn. 12) Marlpits were dug between those two cement works, and chalk and
lime were transported from the chalk quarries through the village to the
cement works. The cement works were taken over by Blue Circle Industries
by 1950, when both cement works were still in operation. By 1956,
however, they had been closed, and part of the site was sold to the city
council, which used it as a waste disposal tip. In the late 1980s some
anti-pollution measures were taken, and the marlpits were partially
filled in, so creating a series of small lakes running parallel to the
railway line; one was used for angling in the late 1990s.


Cheers

Dan

Greg Kretz

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Jan 23, 2010, 3:07:47 PM1/23/10
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Patrick Gosling <jp...@eng.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> The northern most one appears to be within the land owned by the TA (who
> have a base whose entrance is on Coldham's Lane, just next to Sainsburies),
> so I'd hazard a guess they use it for training porpoises.

You know you're in Cambridge when even the weapons are eco-friendly...
:)

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The Natural Philosopher

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Jan 23, 2010, 3:34:17 PM1/23/10
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Greg Kretz wrote:
> Patrick Gosling <jp...@eng.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> The northern most one appears to be within the land owned by the TA (who
>> have a base whose entrance is on Coldham's Lane, just next to Sainsburies),
>> so I'd hazard a guess they use it for training porpoises.
>
> You know you're in Cambridge when even the weapons are eco-friendly...
> :)
>
They cant take cabbages, Cap'n Mannering.

> Greg
>

Fevric J. Glandules

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Jan 23, 2010, 3:46:54 PM1/23/10
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Greg Kretz wrote:

> Patrick Gosling <jp...@eng.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> The northern most one appears to be within the land owned by the TA (who
>> have a base whose entrance is on Coldham's Lane, just next to Sainsburies),
>> so I'd hazard a guess they use it for training porpoises.
>
> You know you're in Cambridge when even the weapons are eco-friendly...
> :)


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