New Council:
Lib Dem 24
Labour 16.
Cons 2.
Full results with comparative figures for 2001 (use fixed width font!)
* Denotes sitting councillor.
ABBEY
Hart, Caroline (Lab) ...................... 571 58.6% (1396 56.7%)
Mitton, Simon (Con) ....................... 180 18.5% (540 21.9%)
Keating, Chris (L Dem) .................... 113 11.6% (414 16.8%)
Collins, John (Green) ..................... 60 6.2% (113 4.6%)
*Mbaya, Mungai (Ind) ...................... 51 5.2%
Lab gain from Ind. Maj 391. Turnout 20.3%
ARBURY
Todd-Jones, Michael (Lab) ................. 828 41.0% (1389 45.7%)
Moss-Eccardt, Rupert (L Dem) .............. 579 28.7% (857 28.2%)
Boorman, Robert (Con) ..................... 513 25.4% (796 26.2%)
Mitchell, Shayne (Green) .................. 73 3.6%
Minns, Diana (Soc All) .................... 27 1.3%
Lab hold. Maj 249. Turnout 39.2%
CASTLE
*White, J.David (L Dem) ...................1121 51.4% (2377 57.0%)
Boorman, Rhona (Con) ...................... 458 21.0% (805 19.4%)
Richardson, Gillian (Lab) ................. 412 18.9% (965 23.3%)
Lawrence, Stephen (Green) ................. 188 8.6%
Lib Dem hold. Maj 663. Turnout 30.6%
CHERRY HINTON
*Stuart, Graham (Con) .....................1174 49.3% (1380 38.6%)
Newbold, Stuart (Lab) ..................... 948 39.8% (1665 46.5%)
Amrani, Frances (L Dem) ................... 196 8.2% (532 14.9%)
Tayar, Daryl (Green) ...................... 64 2.7%
Con hold. Maj 226. Turnout 43.4%
COLERIDGE
*Bagnall, E.Ruth (Lab) .................... 938 50.6% (1832 49.7%)
Hall, Martin (Con) ........................ 454 24.5% (1064 28.9%)
Monroe, Jonathan (L Dem) .................. 267 14.4% (790 21.4%)
Docherty, Damian (Green) .................. 94 5.1%
Watts, Albert (UKIP) ...................... 53 2.9%
Sedgwick-Jell, Simon (Soc All) ............ 46 2.5%
Lab hold. Maj 484. Turnout 31.3%
EAST CHESTERTON
Bailey, Jennifer (L Dem) ................... 974 40.5% (1760 42.3%)
Woodall, Sarah (Lab) ....................... 858 35.7% (1504 36.2%)
Rashid, Mamanur (Con) ...................... 319 13.3% (893 21.5%)
Hewett, Neil (Green) ....................... 129 5.4%
Hudson, Barry (UKIP) ....................... 124 5.2%
Lib Dem hold. Maj 116. Turnout 33.4%
KING'S HEDGES
Bell, Maria (Lab) .......................... 550 54.6% (1351 57.1%)
Weinman, Cyril (Con) ....................... 235 23.3% (586 24.7%)
Bradford, Evelyn (L Dem) ................... 157 15.6% (431 18.2%)
Goldbeck-Wood, Gerhard (Green) ............. 65 6.5%
Lab hold. Maj 315. Turnout 20.8%
MARKET
*Rosenstiel, Joye (L Dem) .................. 879 57.0% (1939 50.3%)
Chamberlain, Samuel (Con) .................. 239 15.5% (663 17.2%)
Sargeant, Michael (Lab) .................... 238 15.4% (804 20.9%)
Lucas-Smith, Martin (Green) ................ 187 12.1% (446 11.6%)
Lib Dem hold. Maj 640. Turnout 22.4%
NEWNHAM
Reid, Sian (L Dem) .........................1134 56.3% (2489 55.1%)
Wright, H.Patricia (Lab) ................... 372 17.0% (1156 25.6%)
Normington, Richard (Con) .................. 326 16.2% (869 19.3%)
Harrison, Tandy (Green) .................... 190 9.4%
Douglas, Nigel (Ind) ....................... 23 1.1%
Lib Dem hold. Maj 792. Turnout 25.9%
PETERSFIELD
*Blencowe, Kevin (Lab) ..................... 964 40.4% (1647 37.9%)
Wilkins, Kevin (L Dem) ..................... 579 24.3% (1207 27.8%)
Wright, Margaret (Green) ................... 514 21.5% (793 18.2%)
Glendon, Lee (Con) ......................... 257 10.8% (701 16.1%)
Walker, Jonathan (Soc All) ................. 72 3.0%
Lab hold. Maj 385. Turnout 30.2%
QUEEN EDITH'S (2 vacancies)
*Taylor, Amanda (L Dem) ....................1564 62.7% (2255 56.2%)
Baker, Alan (L Dem) ........................1424 57.1% (2255 56.2%)
Henry, Keith (Con) ......................... 473 19.0% (896 22.3%)
Ray, James (Con) ........................... 409 16.4% (896 22.3%)
Harper, Frances (Lab) ...................... 342 13.7% (861 21.5%)
Stevens, Jean (Lab) ........................ 258 10.3% (861 21.5%)
Milsom, Robert (Green) ..................... 160 6.4%
Davies, Helene (UKIP) ...................... 78 3.1%
2 Lib Dem holds. Maj 951. Turnout 40.7% (2495 papers returned)
ROMSEY
*Smart, Catherine (L Dem) .................. 969 44.8% (1414 38.8%)
Sales, Paul (Lab) .......................... 867 40.1% (1454 39.9%)
Russell, Vicky (Green) ..................... 194 9.0% (262 7.2%)
Ellis, Vivian (Con) ........................ 131 6.1% (355 9.8%)
(Ind) (156 4.3%)
Lib Dem hold. Maj 102. Turnout 35.2%
TRUMPINGTON
Pinnington, Judith (L Dem) .................1118 47.5% (1977 53.7%)
Towns, Hannah (Con) ........................ 937 39.8% (1176 32.0%)
Turner, Rosemary (Lab) ..................... 201 8.5% (527 14.3%)
Westcott, Brian (Green) .................... 100 4.2%
Lib Dem gain from Con. Maj 181. Turnout 38.9%
WEST CHESTERTON
*Nimmo-Smith, M.Ian (L Dem) ................1071 51.1% (1864 49.0%)
Schicker, Patrick (Lab) .................... 474 22.6% (1202 31.6%)
Strachan, James (Con) ...................... 350 16.7% (741 19.5%)
Peake, Stephen (Green) ..................... 202 9.6%
Lib Dem hold. Maj 597. Turnout 34.0%
Keith Edkins
Cambridge Liberal Democrats: http://www.cambridgelibdems.org.uk/
What a conservative bunch we are. Only one sitting councillor booted
out and that one had changed allegiance. I suppose masses of new
development, misguided buses and gridlock are now inevitable :(
Mark
>ABBEY
>Hart, Caroline (Lab) ...................... 571 58.6% (1396 56.7%)
>Mitton, Simon (Con) ....................... 180 18.5% (540 21.9%)
>Keating, Chris (L Dem) .................... 113 11.6% (414 16.8%)
...but not in Abbey, it seems!
I wonder what caused the huge swing away from the Lib Dems. Perhaps
it was because (he commented, pointedly) they didn't appear to canvas
or leaflet in the area? (Well, not where we live, anyway.)
The Cons got something of a spanking, too. Guess what? They didn't
canvas or leaflet, either.
Me? Given the alternatives, I voted for the independent. Didn't have
a hope in hell, but at least it gave him more chance to avoid losing
his deposit.
Jon
(living in what's become -- perhaps through opposition party apathy --
the most rigidly Labour ward on the Council *sigh*)
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Can I apologise to the rest of cam.misc please. I hadn't realised
that to be a fully-fledged member of this group it was necessary to
stand in the local elections as a LibDem. I can now see the error of
my ways, even if I can't immediately see the answer to the problem.
Humble gratuities.
Robert
>Can I apologise to the rest of cam.misc please. I hadn't realised
>that to be a fully-fledged member of this group it was necessary to
>stand in the local elections as a LibDem. I can now see the error of
>my ways, even if I can't immediately see the answer to the problem.
>
>Humble gratuities.
...to Party funds? *snigger*
Jon
They were anyway. To be honest it's not in the City's gift to prevent it.
The Regional Planning Guidance, brought to us by central government, is
the key document driving the new development; guided buses come from that
and from CHUMMS, another central government document; and the gridlock is
a natural consequence of the first two.
It's all deeply depressing.
--
Paul Oldham, Milton villager
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Milton web site -> http://www.miltonvillage.org.uk/
Keith Edkins
(Cam Lib Dems hat on)
> What a conservative bunch we are. Only one sitting councillor booted
> out and that one had changed allegiance. I suppose masses of new
> development, misguided buses and gridlock are now inevitable :(
Wait until Marvin the Moose becomes mayor. He'll get rid of the dead wood.
O.
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Not sure if that was seriously meant, but there are no deposits in local
elections. There are 87614 electors in Cambridge and they're all entitled to
stand (plus untold thousands more who work but don't live within the city).
Keith
> (living in what's become -- perhaps through opposition party apathy --
> the most rigidly Labour ward on the Council *sigh*)
Don't be silly.
It's nothing to do with apathy, and everything to do with lack of
resources. If you don't like the fact that Abbey is a safe Labour ward,
then get off your bottom and do something about it. I can't, because I'm
too busy in my own ward.
--
Jennifer Liddle http://www.jsquared.co.uk/jennyl
Money isn't that big a deal actually, although we wouldn't turn it down.
*Time* would be even more welcome.
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Brett Ward Ltd - www.brettward.co.uk
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Cambridge City Councillor
Of course, if we took politicians' exhortations at their word(s), a
significant fraction of us would stand. Can you imagine a voting
slip with 153 candidates?
Robert
Well, I didn't know that! I'd believed there were deposits, but much
smaller than for national elections. I sit corrected.
It was a combination of protest vote and supporting-the-little-guy
anyway, so it wouldn't have made any great difference, but thanks for
the info.
Jon
I've been in charge of a count where there were around 40. It does make
physical handling of the voting papers rather a pain.
If more people took more of an interest in local politics, and actually knew
who their councillors were, chatted to them in the pub or whatever as Paul
suggests, then Mungai might have done rather better. As it was one suspects
that people just voted "Labour" with no regard as to who the candidate might
be or why there was an independent.
If I'd been living in Abbey I'd probably have voted for him. (Sorry Chris!)
[snip horribly formatted cited text]
You asked to be told: your quoted text looks 'orrid.
--
Th' MIND is the Pizza Palace of th' SOUL
It does, and I'm sorry. I don't know what the answer is yet.
Robert
Not to discount the other good followups, but...
The figures suggest that that ward changed boundaries since last time. 900
votes in all (for them 3) instead of 2400! Did it? Does that account for
it? If not, how come the figures are so odd?
- Huge
> The Cons got something of a spanking, too. Guess what? They didn't
> canvas or leaflet, either.
The one that interested me was East Chesterton, where they did leaflet,
and they suffered a big swing against them compared to the rest of the
City. I can't help but smell a touch of racism in that result.
RM> I don't know what the answer is yet.
I do: get rid of OE :-)
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LOVE SONG"...he's playing ESTHER WILLIAMS!!
The ward boundaries change next year, not this.
The reason is that there was a general election last year on the same day as
the (county) local election, and general elections get higher turnout, and
most (but not all) people who turn out for the general election will also
vote in the local election when they're given two ballot papers, even if
they didn't actually know that there was a local election on.
Comparison with the last local-only election in 2000 might be more helpful
for some purposes, such as comparing turnouts, but less so for others as it
would ignore a year of switching.
> The one that interested me was East Chesterton, where they did leaflet,
> and they suffered a big swing against them compared to the rest of the
> City. I can't help but smell a touch of racism in that result.
I'm afraid so. I canvassed one gentleman who said he wasn't voting because
"I'm a Tory, but I'm not voting for *him*".
Well, I'm not committed to it yet. But I think I should give it more of a
chance before giving up on it.
Robert
I've not noticed anyone being offended by my using OE, and it's just
the simplest option for me here. I've many irritations with it (like,
why can't I stop it putting the space after the > quoting marker?),
but nothing which makes it a showstopper yet.
Still, we're about to change ISPs and if the new newsserver is rubbish
enough then I'll be reduced to Google I suppose. :(
Mark
>"Jon Green" <jo...@deadspam.com> wrote in message
>news:cpl4dugj6a107qaeh...@4ax.com...
>>
>> It was a combination of protest vote and supporting-the-little-guy
>> anyway, so it wouldn't have made any great difference, but thanks for
>> the info.
>
>If more people took more of an interest in local politics, and actually knew
>who their councillors were, chatted to them in the pub or whatever as Paul
>suggests, then Mungai might have done rather better.
Of course, that presupposes there exists a pub in the ward...
Jon (who can't get a pint of ale at the McDonald's, boo!)
Last time there was a general election at the same time. People would have
gone out to vote in the general, and decided they might as well vote in
the local as well. It's the same in other wards (look at Castle's figures,
f'rinstance.
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Ah, yes, there is that. Arbury has recently gained a pub, of course, with
the welcome return of the British Queen.
> Paul Oldham wibbled:
>
> > The one that interested me was East Chesterton, where they did
> > leaflet,
> > and they suffered a big swing against them compared to the rest of the
> > City. I can't help but smell a touch of racism in that result.
>
> I'm afraid so. I canvassed one gentleman who said he wasn't voting
> because "I'm a Tory, but I'm not voting for *him*".
I think you have a serious spelling error in the first line there.
Somewhere between "one" and "who".
>Jon Green wibbled:
>
>> (living in what's become -- perhaps through opposition party apathy --
>> the most rigidly Labour ward on the Council *sigh*)
>
>Don't be silly.
>
>It's nothing to do with apathy, and everything to do with lack of
>resources. If you don't like the fact that Abbey is a safe Labour ward,
>then get off your bottom and do something about it.
Thank you for replying to valid criticism with an ad-hominem attack.
In answer to your question, before I bury it where it belongs -- how?
Right now, *none* of the established parties is exactly in good odour
with me, and I certainly don't have enough time in the day to stand as
an independent, even if I wished to do so.
And this "If you don't like it, fix it yourself" argument is specious
at best.
It's your bloody party; *you* fix it, if you want to get (your
candidate) elected. Try being credible, and maybe people will join
and want to help out, come next election. Don't shoot the messenger
when the message is just a little too accurate for comfort.
Jon
No canvassing in my bit of Abbey either apart from one Labour leaflet...
Nick
> "Robert Macmillan" <rob...@mbe-windsor.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:aatnkb$nm3$1...@thorium.cix.co.uk...
>> "Paul Rudin" <Paul_...@scientia.com> wrote in message
>> news:ug019a...@scientia.com... > >>>>> "RM" == Robert
>> Macmillan <rob...@mbe-windsor.co.uk> writes:
>> >
>> > RM> I don't know what the answer is yet.
>> >
>> > I do: get rid of OE :-)
>>
>> Well, I'm not committed to it yet. But I think I should give it
>> more
> of a
>> chance before giving up on it.
>>
> I've not noticed anyone being offended by my using OE,
Well I'm not "offended" but your quoted text looks horrid as well.
> and it's just the simplest option for me here.
presuambly because it comes ready-installed with the OS?
> I've many irritations with it
So why not use something that works well?
> Still, we're about to change ISPs and if the new newsserver is
> rubbish enough then I'll be reduced to Google I suppose. :(
Ick... google is nice for ad hoc searching. But as a day-to-day way of
keeping up with newsgroups it's terrible IMO.
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Will this never-ending series of PLEASURABLE EVENTS never cease?
OK, the serious, correct, answer to "how", in a system (which I know Paul
doesn't approve of) where you can't get elected without a party label, is to
choose the least worst party, join it, and change the bits of its policy
that you don't like.
> It's your bloody party; *you* fix it, if you want to get (your
> candidate) elected. Try being credible, and maybe people will join
> and want to help out, come next election. Don't shoot the messenger
> when the message is just a little too accurate for comfort.
Trouble is that you didn't give us a message. You just said:
> Right now, *none* of the established parties is exactly in good odour
> with me,
That doesn't give any party much of a clue as to what you think is broken
with that party and how you want it fixed, so even with the best will in the
world it seems fairly unlikely, simply in practical terms, that it can
happen.
And to go back to:
> It's your bloody party; *you* fix it
Not really. At least one "party" could reasonably be described as "a loose
association of people who quite often have similar approaches to some
problems"; it's not "owned" by anyone except the members, and the moment you
join you "own" it just as much as anyone else does. (It is rumoured that
other parties don't work quite that way, and have more of a system of people
being told what to think from head office, but I have no personal experience
of belonging to such a party and it's possible these rumours could be
untrue.)
This doesn't explain the swing - we also mounted no campaign in Abbey in
2000 and 2001.
> Me? Given the alternatives, I voted for the independent. Didn't have
> a hope in hell, but at least it gave him more chance to avoid losing
> his deposit.
It was a real shame that he wasn't re-selected - I've heard many good things
about him.
>
> Jon
> (living in what's become -- perhaps through opposition party apathy --
> the most rigidly Labour ward on the Council *sigh*)
Blame First-Past-The-Post. Labour get 60%ish there, so both other parties
tend to put their resources where they can win.
If people in Abbey don't like this - and I know I don't - then they can
always stand themselves, with the help of a party or not.
Chris
It'll gain another five with the boundary changes next year! Not that that
figured in the Local Government Commission's considerations of course.
Keith
Watching the Abbey count was quite a sad experience. Though I don't know him
personally, everyone speaks very highly of his commitment as a councillor.
He must have been in an extremely difficult situation. In a sense it's a
shame that someone like me who didn't campaign got more votes... However,
that's the way it works out with this system.
Chris