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Tom H

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Jul 13, 2017, 9:59:08 AM7/13/17
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There was a bug on MTGO after the latest update. It was fixed within the day, but not before I got hit with it (you can also see the bug in Marshall's latest CFB video, although in his case he was able to continue on with his game - in my case our game restarted). Anyway, after filing for reimbursement, this is the response that I got from Wizards. I found it to be pretty amusing. :)


Greetings Initiate Thomas,

Thank you for reporting this issue with your game resetting during your League event. I am sorry you encountered this problem.  With the swarm of locusts, the destruction of the Hekma, our beloved gods falling in the streets, hailfire raining from the sky, a horde of Eternals, and a giant evil dragon flying around, I'm afraid some technical difficulties may be experienced. A fix for this has been deployed, and it should no longer affect any games.

I hope this helps you see the truth. The God-Pharaoh was a lie!  He is not here to save us, but to destroy all!  We have to get out of Naktamun!

I have reimbursed your account your entry fee of 150 Play Points.

I hope you're able to make it out of the city and find shelter in the desert. Good luck out there!

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Patty D. -
Former Vizier of Oketra the True

Jason Salvano

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Jul 13, 2017, 10:23:44 AM7/13/17
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Looks like the customer service department is getting creative! I wonder if everyone has turned up the flavor dial in their responses? 

I watched Marshall's draft portion, but I didn't see the gameplay. I'll have to go back and look. What card or interaction was involved?

My other takeaway is that you apparently prefer the salutation Initiate Thomas (I don't believe she made that part up).  

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Tom H

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Jul 13, 2017, 10:51:55 AM7/13/17
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I don't know if there was a specific card interaction. It happened pretty suddenly in my own match and I didn't go back to see what specifically was happening. It really surprised me and my opponent, but it apparently was happening quite a bit to people because I heard someone mention it on a stream. I was actually happy about it, since I had drafted a horrendous deck having waffled on colors a bit. My new deck looks much better, but I haven't had a chance to play it yet.

If you do go back and watch the games, be prepared to yell at the screen. Seemed like he made a bad misplay with his god card, but lucky for him his opponent played even worse.

     Take care,
        -Initiate Thomas.


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Jason Salvano

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Jul 13, 2017, 11:55:03 AM7/13/17
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Huh. Well, new sets are always a little wet and wild until popular opinion proliferates. I didn't quite yell at the screen while Marshall was drafting, but I didn't love the way his draft progressed after he first picked The Scarab God. I could get behind the Obelisk Spider pick, because there wasn't much else there and maybe green is open and you splash the god. But subsequent picks--didn't he take the double red removal spell over a black or blue filler card?--I just couldn't get behind. I think rather early on he also took that cycling-all-your-creatures-must-attack-into-my-creatures blue spell, which I think is being horribly overrated. Granted I have not yet played with an Hour of Devastation card, but that won't stop me from shouting.

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Tom H

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Jul 14, 2017, 8:20:04 AM7/14/17
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I've had a chance to play the blue card and I agree with you. It underperformed. I used it as a fog in one game, but that was all that it accomplished. Maybe just bad luck on my part though. I'm still going to dream about forcing my opponent to chump attack their whole board into me.

Spoiler alert in case you haven't watched the games yet and still plan to... In one of the games his opponent has sacrificed the new Relic of Progenitus type card to counteract his Scarab God. Marshall has a chance to do an end of his opponent's turn activation, which would basically force his opponent to sacrifice it or end up facing an extra 4/4. Instead he cycles a card or something and then plans to use his 8 mana on his own turn to double activate. That would end up wasting mana and taking up his entire turn to accomplish the same exact thing. Just seemed like such a common play pattern that I was amazed he didn't see it. In the end, his opponent lagged because his roommate was streaming porn and he got to get multiple 4/4s anyway.

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Jason Salvano

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Jul 14, 2017, 9:52:40 AM7/14/17
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Imaginary Threats has a lot of potential. I just have a feeling that it's going to be a card that I rarely get to draft, because other people will be taking it ahead of me. It's also asking for a specific type of deck and a specific type of situation, and a lot of this nuance may be lost in evaluation. (I also don't particularly like the idea of sitting behind a bunch of defensive creatures until I can spring my trap on the opponent.)

Did Marshall have his 8 mana untapped at the end of his opponent's turn? If so, then yes, that play doesn't make sense to me! Why cycle a card over having a 4/4 to attack with?


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Tom H

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Jul 14, 2017, 10:34:06 AM7/14/17
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He had 4 mana at the end of his opponent's turn. I also just checked and it's even worse because he only had 7 mana in play at the time, so he couldn't even double activate on his own turn. The play pattern, which happens with some card in cube all the time, would be to activate at the end of his opponent's turn, the opponent exiles the card in response. Marshall then untaps and activates again. Since the artifact is now now tapped his opponent has to sacrifice it and his god is now back in business again with any creatures that hit the gy in the future. If he manages to top deck a land then even better since he can respond to a sacrifice and still get a creature out of it.

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Tom H

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Jul 14, 2017, 10:34:41 AM7/14/17
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So, it's not like he attacked a 2/2 into a 3/3 by mistake, but it seemed like a pretty obvious play to me.

Jason Salvano

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Jul 14, 2017, 11:26:56 AM7/14/17
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Oh okay, I've got it. I was thinking of the land, which I believe is just 2T: exile the gy. In that case, if the opponent has the land at the ready, there's nothing Marshall can do unless he has multiple activations (and targets) available. If not, might as well cycle and hope the opponent forgets to pull the trigger before you can play a land in your main phase.

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Tom H

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Jul 14, 2017, 11:37:02 AM7/14/17
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Instead of cycling, if he activates then the opponent has to activate (without sacrificing), but now the artifact is tapped. Marshall then gets to untap. If he draws a land then he activates, opponent has to sacrifice the artifact, then he can activate again and gets a 4/4 before the GYs are exiled. If he doesn't hit a land then he still gets to activate and force the opponent to sacrifice. He doesn't get a 4/4, but now the artifact is off the battlefield and his god is back online. He also now has 3 mana left to spend. By not activating on his opponent's turn he never gets a 4/4, even if he spikes a land, and if he doesn't spike a land he doesn't even get the artifact off of the battlefield.

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Jason Salvano

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Jul 14, 2017, 12:05:06 PM7/14/17
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Yup, I've got it. 

If the opponent plays it correctly, Marshall can't get a 4/4. But if Marshall doesn't activate at the end of the opponent's turn, then he hasn't cleared the first hurdle of "make the opponent tap the artifact." So what the opponent then needs to do immediately--before Marshall untaps--is exile the graveyards. If he doesn't, then Marshall can draw his eighth land and force a 4/4. The opponent can't let him untap and then exile gys because then Marshall will respond and make a 4/4. By forcing action, Marshall can give the opponent the opportunity to make a mistake. But by cycling at the end of turn...Marshall just breaks his whole line to potentially get a 4/4. For cycling to be correct, he must have been looking for something game winning.  

I was a bit confused initially because I didn't know there was an actual Relic-like card in the set. I only knew of Scavenger Grounds, which just exiles graveyards for 2T.

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