Yes I have heard of Pentagono. I have been playing the game for a few
months now and have made about $1000. However, I personally know people
who have made over $90,000 in less than a year, and have talked to
others who have made much more. We have weekly meetings to share fun,
ideas and success stories.
I personally think that it's the best thing since sliced bread: the
concept is brilliant, it is a win-win all around, it's untouchable by
the the government, it costs virtually nothing, it brings in money from
all over the world and it's fun!
It isn't a pyramid, and it is a full time business for the company
called Future Strategies in Italy and it has been designed to run
indefinitely like any other business. It's now operating successfully in
100 countries, so someone is doing something right!
Let me know if you want details.
But its legal right... NOT!!!!
Canadian Federal Police Warned Against the Pentagono PYRAMID SCHEME:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/scams.htm
Get this free investigative report by autoresponder:
mailto:pent...@mlmcentral.com
Visit this website to examine the Pentagono pyramid scheme:
http://www.tgx.com/pentabono/
Lousiana Attorney General Warns Against this Pyramid Scheme:
http://www.laag.com/pressrel.cfm?p=/br/laag/
If it looks too good to be true, then it is too good to be true!
MLM Avenger
In article <36D39D1A...@hotmail.com>,
Just Wondering <catch_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Has anybody out there heard of a company called Pentagono? They are
> basically running a pyramid scheme and I would like to hear about any
> experiences, positive or negative, you may have had. Apparently they
> are a legit company running out of Italy. A friend of mine insists that
> this thing works (and it seems to on paper) but I'm not so sure. If
> anybody has been involved with this and actually made money please let
> me know.
>
>
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But its legal right... NOT!!!!
Canadian Federal Police Warned Against the Pentagono PYRAMID SCHEME:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/scams.htm
Get this free investigative report by autoresponder:
mailto:pent...@mlmcentral.com
Visit this website to examine the Pentagono pyramid scheme:
http://www.tgx.com/pentabono/
Lousiana Attorney General Warns Against this Pyramid Scheme:
http://www.laag.com/pressrel.cfm?p=/br/laag/
If it looks too good to be true, then it is too good to be true!
MLM Avenger
But its legal right... NOT!!!!
Canadian Federal Police Warned Against the Pentagono PYRAMID SCHEME:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/scams.htm
Get this free investigative report by autoresponder:
mailto:pent...@mlmcentral.com
Visit this website to examine the Pentagono Pyramid Scheme:
If this is illegal, why has no-one ever been charged? These sounds have
been made by the authorities all over the world, but it is all to scare
people away from playing a game that enters areas that business and
lottery games normally occupy. It is a game, not a pyramid. Check out
the facts and drop your scare tactics. People are making money at this
same as any game! Pity you have to work for yours.
Ben
mlm-a...@goplay.com wrote:
>
> THE PENTAGONO PYRAMID SCHEME EXPOSED --
>
> But its legal right... NOT!!!!
>
> Canadian Federal Police Warned Against the Pentagono PYRAMID SCHEME:
> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/scams.htm
>
> Get this free investigative report by autoresponder:
> mailto:pent...@mlmcentral.com
>
> Visit this website to examine the Pentagono pyramid scheme:
> http://www.tgx.com/pentabono/
>
> Lousiana Attorney General Warns Against this Pyramid Scheme:
> http://www.laag.com/pressrel.cfm?p=/br/laag/
>
> If it looks too good to be true, then it is too good to be true!
>
> MLM Avenger
>
> In article <36D39D1A...@hotmail.com>,
Quote:
The RCMP Economic Crime Branch has reviewed these reports and believes that
this investment solicitation exhibits the characteristics of a common
"pyramid" scheme and readers are warned that continued participation in the
scheme may result in a charge under Section 206(1)(e) of the Criminal Code
of Canada.
--
Regards, Mike
Email address
is available
upon request
Anaconda wrote in message <36DAD891...@NOSPAMhome.com>...
Anaconda
Anaconda
You so sure that there Pentagono MLM is legal why not talk some with your own
Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Sorry son, ain't no scare tactics, but the
truth hurts those trying hurt honest folk. Hell boy, your own government says
its a pyramid selling scam. Me, well I'm just trying to help honest folk do
their own homestudy with information found on this very internet. Now, I do
thank you sir for obligin me in some chit chat.
MLM Avenger
In article <36DAD891...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> Check your facts Mike;
>
> If this is illegal, why has no-one ever been charged? These sounds have
> been made by the authorities all over the world, but it is all to scare
> people away from playing a game that enters areas that business and
> lottery games normally occupy. It is a game, not a pyramid. Check out
> the facts and drop your scare tactics. People are making money at this
> same as any game! Pity you have to work for yours.
>
> Ben
>
Anaconda
And, like I said... when the emphasis is on the pyramid of new members,
it's a scam. How much did they take you in for?
--
Regards, Mike
Email address
is available
upon request
Anaconda wrote in message <36DAE9CF...@NOSPAMhome.com>...
|Operative words here are "and believes"... IF they think this then
|prosecute instead of bad mouthing a company that does better (in
|returns) than playing any lottery! By the way; quit the spamming!
|
|Anaconda
|
|Mike Apoc wrote:
|>
|> It's a scam... Whenever the emphasis is on pyramid of new members, rather
|> than goods or services, it's probably a scam.
|>
|> Quote:
|> The RCMP Economic Crime Branch has reviewed these reports and believes
that
|> this investment solicitation exhibits the characteristics of a common
|> "pyramid" scheme and readers are warned that continued participation in
the
|> scheme may result in a charge under Section 206(1)(e) of the Criminal
Code
|> of Canada.
|>
|> --
|>
|> Regards, Mike
|>
|> Email address
|> is available
|> upon request
|>
|> Anaconda wrote in message <36DAD891...@NOSPAMhome.com>...
Don't you go lettin no fart grow on your brain son, it ain't all bad. But you
got me thinkin now maybe YOUR Pentagono oil well done dried up cuz you a mite
defensive all a sudden boy.
Can I call you Bennie? By the by Ben, maybe you might oblige us and tell which
one of them fine Canadian Mounted Police officers is partaking in that there
pyramid scheme. Go on son we're a waitin!
On the inside you say you are sir. You a bettin man Bennie?
No need for you to keep on keepin on Anaconda when we here will just let my
good neighbors up in that snowy north decide for themselves by doin their own
homestudy.
Come be a contestant on our Pyramid Game Ben. All the truths point us towards
Pentagono being a pyramid scheme. Whadda you think sir?
Now Bennie ain't this here information superhighway a marvelous thang.
RCMP Alerts Canadian Public to the Pentagono PYRAMID SCHEME:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/scams.htm
Free investigative report by sending a message to this autoresponder
mailto: pent...@mlmcentral.com
Pentagono?... Pentaboner!
http://www.tgx.com/pentabono/
Well Ben is that Pentagono legal in your parts? Well now Mr. MLM Avenger I
read the truth and come to the only conclusion Pentagono got to be a pyramid
selling scheme in these here parts. Well yes sir it is!
You see Bennie we can be chums, hell we can even go get us one of them
Canadian soda pops (wink and smile son).
No need for you to keep on being so unhospitable towards me Bennie. We all
know any intelligent person goin to see this here Pentagono program is some
kind of pyramid selling scheme not no money game. Hell, a lottery he says! It
ain't no lottery ya foolish boy. I think you might feel threatened by the
truth is all.
Come on down and see me some time won't ya.
MLM Avenger
In article <36DB1CE7...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> Since when did an RCMP believing something constitute the position of
> the government, Mr Know All (?) If this were true, then they would not
> be playing the game themselves in force across Alberta. You are not on
> the inside, so I guess you don't know much. Pity, go back to your salt
> mine, or was that wishing for oil?
>
> Anaconda
>
> mlm-a...@goplay.com wrote:
> >
> > Hello there Ben,
> >
> > You so sure that there Pentagono MLM is legal why not talk some with your
> > own Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Sorry son, ain't no scare tactics, but
> > the truth hurts those trying hurt honest folk. Hell boy, your own
> > government says its a pyramid selling scam. Me, well I'm just trying to
> > help honest folk do their own homestudy with information found on this
> > very internet. Now, I do thank you sir for obligin me in some chit chat.
> >
> > MLM Avenger
> >
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>MLM Avenger; quit your spamming; anything you have to say, say it in
>public. Your fears are showing!
>
>Anaconda
>
And why the hell dont you trim your replies?? instead of posting a 4
line response and quoting 50+ lines?!?!?!
Spiff
..........out..........
As stated earlier, this is openly called a game, no different than a
lottery. If there is no product, then it could be classified as a
pyramid. Your definition about going for people is wrong, otherwise you
could even call a church a pyramid!
The basis of any lottery game is money, same as this; EXCEPT they do
have a travel discount card that can be used worldwide. Check out
Medicine Hat. Many businesses offer discounts to card holders.
Pentagono has done well in many corners of Alberta, and has given money
to the food bank in Calgary. Have you done so lately?
Regards
Anaconda
> |> |> Canadian Federal Police Warned Against the Pentagono PYRAMID SCHEME:
> |> |> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/scams.htm
> |> |>
> |> |> Get this free investigative report by autoresponder:
> |> |> mailto:pent...@mlmcentral.com
> |> |>
> |> |> Visit this website to examine the Pentagono pyramid scheme:
> |> |> http://www.tgx.com/pentabono/
> |> |>
> |> |> Lousiana Attorney General Warns Against this Pyramid Scheme:
> |> |> http://www.laag.com/pressrel.cfm?p=/br/laag/
> |> |>
> |> |> If it looks too good to be true, then it is too good to be true!
> |> |>
> |> |> MLM Avenger
> |> |>
> |> |> In article <36D39D1A...@hotmail.com>,
> |> |> Just Wondering <catch_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> |> |> > Has anybody out there heard of a company called Pentagono? They are
> |> |> > basically running a pyramid scheme and I would like to hear about
> any
> |> |> > experiences, positive or negative, you may have had. Apparently
> they
> |> |> > are a legit company running out of Italy. A friend of mine insists
> |> that
> |> |> > this thing works (and it seems to on paper) but I'm not so sure. If
> |> |> > anybody has been involved with this and actually made money please
> let
> |> |> > me know.
> |> |> >
> |> |> >
> |> |>
Just thought I would thank you sir for doin your homestudy and bein good folk.
Lets us hope the rest a your fellow Canadian people see what became obvious to
yourself. Now you take care yourself son ya hear.
MLM Avenger
In article <T4BC2.3271$Fc....@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com>,
MLM Avenger
In article <36DAEA1C...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> MLM Avenger; quit your spamming; anything you have to say, say it in
> public. Your fears are showing!
>
> Anaconda
>
So who's the poor sucker who going to eat what you made?
|As stated earlier, this is openly called a game, no different than a
|lottery. If there is no product, then it could be classified as a
|pyramid. Your definition about going for people is wrong, otherwise you
|could even call a church a pyramid!
Hey, maybe it is. All I know, is that in such scams, someone is left
holding the bag. It doesn't take a genious to figure it out.
And, a game? a lottery? you are* joking, right? In a lottery, a number
of people contribute to the pot and one wins it. All have the same chance of
winning. No pyramid scam here. No exponential contributions where the top
members rake the dough and those at the bottom are left scratching their
heads...
|The basis of any lottery game is money, same as this; EXCEPT they do
|have a travel discount card that can be used worldwide. Check out
|Medicine Hat. Many businesses offer discounts to card holders.
Really? like who? Any restaurants or hotels? I'll be down that way in a
couple of weeks and I wouldn't mind seeing for myself.
|Pentagono has done well in many corners of Alberta, and has given money
|to the food bank in Calgary. Have you done so lately?
That's a dumb question. Whether I contribute to the food bank or not has
no bearing in the legitimacy of a scheme that smells like a scam.
And, I would like to verify that before I even consider the point. Do
you have some evidence of that?
--
Regards, Mike
Email address
is available
upon request
|Regards
|Anaconda
|
|Mike Apoc wrote:
|>
|> Excuse me? Quit what spamming? I am answering to your reply. How does
|> this constitute a spam?
|>
|> And, like I said... when the emphasis is on the pyramid of new
members,
|> it's a scam. How much did they take you in for?
|>
|> --
|>
|> Regards, Mike
|>
|> Email address
|> is available
|> upon request
|>
|> Anaconda wrote in message <36DAE9CF...@NOSPAMhome.com>...
|> |Operative words here are "and believes"... IF they think this then
|> |prosecute instead of bad mouthing a company that does better (in
|> |returns) than playing any lottery! By the way; quit the spamming!
|> |
|> |Anaconda
|> |
mlm-a...@goplay.com wrote:
>
> Now there Ben
>
> Don't you go lettin no fart grow on your brain son, it ain't all bad. But you
> got me thinkin now maybe YOUR Pentagono oil well done dried up cuz you a mite
> defensive all a sudden boy.
>
> Can I call you Bennie? By the by Ben, maybe you might oblige us and tell which
> one of them fine Canadian Mounted Police officers is partaking in that there
> pyramid scheme. Go on son we're a waitin!
>
> On the inside you say you are sir. You a bettin man Bennie?
>
> No need for you to keep on keepin on Anaconda when we here will just let my
> good neighbors up in that snowy north decide for themselves by doin their own
> homestudy.
>
> Come be a contestant on our Pyramid Game Ben. All the truths point us towards
> Pentagono being a pyramid scheme. Whadda you think sir?
>
> Now Bennie ain't this here information superhighway a marvelous thang.
>
> RCMP Alerts Canadian Public to the Pentagono PYRAMID SCHEME:
> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/scams.htm
>
Go gambling; it will open up your tunnel vision and also your need to
see things in a box by your own judgements.
Why don't you post your real e-mail address, buster if you are so
without fear!
Go play...we are!
mlm-a...@goplay.com wrote:
>
> Quit my what son? What in THE HELL is that there thing you say spamming? Boy
> the MLM Avenger don't eat no canned spam. Now for them fears showing! I fear
> seein my wife nekkid son, but I ain't fearin no pyramid scam.
>
> MLM Avenger
>
> In article <36DAEA1C...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
> Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> > MLM Avenger; quit your spamming; anything you have to say, say it in
> > public. Your fears are showing!
> >
> > Anaconda
> >
> > mlm-a...@goplay.com wrote:
> > >
> > > THE PENTAGONO PYRAMID SCHEME EXPOSED --
> > >
> > > But its legal right... NOT!!!!
> > >
> > > Canadian Federal Police Warned Against the Pentagono PYRAMID SCHEME:
> > > http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/scams.htm
> > >
> > > Get this free investigative report by autoresponder:
> > > mailto:pent...@mlmcentral.com
> > >
> > > Visit this website to examine the Pentagono pyramid scheme:
> > > http://www.tgx.com/pentabono/
> > >
> > > Lousiana Attorney General Warns Against this Pyramid Scheme:
> > > http://www.laag.com/pressrel.cfm?p=/br/laag/
> > >
> > > If it looks too good to be true, then it is too good to be true!
> > >
> > > MLM Avenger
> > >
> > > In article <36D39D1A...@hotmail.com>,
> > > Just Wondering <catch_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Has anybody out there heard of a company called Pentagono? They are
> > > > basically running a pyramid scheme and I would like to hear about any
> > > > experiences, positive or negative, you may have had. Apparently they
> > > > are a legit company running out of Italy. A friend of mine insists that
> > > > this thing works (and it seems to on paper) but I'm not so sure. If
> > > > anybody has been involved with this and actually made money please let
> > > > me know.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
mlm-a...@goplay.com wrote:
>
> Now well done Mike,
>
> Just thought I would thank you sir for doin your homestudy and bein good folk.
> Lets us hope the rest a your fellow Canadian people see what became obvious to
> yourself. Now you take care yourself son ya hear.
>
> MLM Avenger
>
> In article <T4BC2.3271$Fc....@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com>,
> "Mike Apoc" <no...@this.time> wrote:
> > It's a scam... Whenever the emphasis is on pyramid of new members, rather
> > than goods or services, it's probably a scam.
> >
> > Quote:
> > The RCMP Economic Crime Branch has reviewed these reports and believes that
> > this investment solicitation exhibits the characteristics of a common
> > "pyramid" scheme and readers are warned that continued participation in the
> > scheme may result in a charge under Section 206(1)(e) of the Criminal Code
> > of Canada.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards, Mike
> >
> > Email address
> > is available
> > upon request
> >
> > Anaconda wrote in message <36DAD891...@NOSPAMhome.com>...
> > |Check your facts Mike;
> > |
> > |If this is illegal, why has no-one ever been charged? These sounds have
> > |been made by the authorities all over the world, but it is all to scare
> > |people away from playing a game that enters areas that business and
> > |lottery games normally occupy. It is a game, not a pyramid. Check out
> > |the facts and drop your scare tactics. People are making money at this
> > |same as any game! Pity you have to work for yours.
> > |
> > |Ben
> > |
By the by Ben, some kind folk told me what that spamming was and you a liar
son and you know it. No need to keep harassin me though and I ain't takin
your insults personally. I know you feel your right, but your wrong, and in
bein wrong you make honest folk believe that they can be rewarded by joining
that Pentagono pyramid selling scheme.
Do the math and then understand that those there Pentagono pieces of paper
are the real product! That make it illegal son?
You can insult me all you like to son don't mean much.
But now I don't live in no salt mine or have tunnel vision. Sure my english
ain't at the very best level but unlike you son I'm not no hippie child fool
enough to believe that those pyramid numbers on level seven are going to be
achieved by every Pentagono promoter. Sir you'd be a mite suprised at what I
know. (smile)
Are you fresh meat Ben? I gotta ask just how long you been in that Pentagono
program son? Cuz you don't seem to know much about the truths!
You said that its openly called a game, no different than a lottery!
Let me ask you somethin Ben. Do you know why those promoters call it a game
and then MLM and then back again to a game and then MLM? Now you don't do
you son!
Ben you said if there is no product, then it could be classified as a
pyramid scheme!
Now Bennie about that Pentagono International Shoppers Discount Card you
spoke of in an earlier post. You need to read the investigative report to
know the truths about this scam or visit that Canadian Pentagono website.
Go back and find the addresses in past posts Ben or just email me a message
for the rigth information, hell I'll send you the whole pile of truths. But
no more of thoe harrasin messages or I'm goin scold you, ya hear me son.
You ask why don't I just go gamblin on that Pentagono? We are! Who's we son?
You livin in the past Anaconda!
Son I worked far too hard for my money Ben and I'm just plain too smart to
go on givin my money away to Future Strategies con men and few at the top
that there pyramid.
Now boy I invest my moneys only in legitimate businesses where a profit can
be maximized by all my business folk involved, not just a few at the top a
chain letter. Do your math son and then you be given privilege to speak to
me about doin makin smart business dealings.
You want me to give my money away? To you I'll bet right Ben!
Son that's just not smart business decision if the returns on my investment
is only like your few hundreds dollars in Pentagono profit.
Tell you what though son, you can come back and talk to me when you get all
that promised money on the level seven position. Until then you just bein a
time-waster with a dream you can't ever put into motion.
You keep dreamin dreams of false profits son while I sit back here in hog
heaven and enjoy this here technology superhighway. I tell you boy!
All I'm trying to tell you poor Bennie is that if you do that math its next
impossible, yes I did say impossible, for everybody who joins that pyramid
scam to make money. Question to you Anaconda; Do you honestly believe that
every person who joins Pentagono will gain the promised moneys at the level
seven position? The answer is NO, but you don't seems to mind. Not very wise
business person are you son.
Your question was Anaconda.
Why not post my messages with my real address, umm, I be the MLM Avenger Ben
so that become my real address.
Well Bennie the time has come I be movin on, you just don't seem like you
wanna be kind folk towards me. But that's okay, that's okay, I ain't gonna
take it in no hurtin way. Trust me Ben when I tell ya I know you will find
the truth out about Pentagono... Hint! Hint! (smile)
Wish you best with your next get rich quick scam, you goin need it son, cuz
there ain't no such thing. I suggest you find yourself a legitimate business
that you can build passive income with Bennie otherwise you just stealin
peoples dreams that don't even give you back pennies on your dollar.
Please Remember folk: If it sounds too good to be true, then it is too good
to be true!
MLM Avenger
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
Public Alert - Future Strategies Srl - Pentagono
Over the past year, the RCMP have received a number of
enquiries with respect to a
company soliciting funds on the Internet through
participation in a pyramid type scheme
offering huge returns on investment.
The scheme, dubbed Pentagono, is operated through an Internet
home page provided by an
Italian company, Future Strategies Srl (Srl, meaning a
limited company registration in Italy).
They claim to be registered with the Italian Chamber of
Commerce and Industry in Modena.
They also claim that Future Strategies Srl is a company
completely approved by the Italian
authorities, operating world wide. There are a number of
Internet websites that post links to
the Pentagono website.
In the scheme, investors have to purchase a membership
certificate from “a friend” priced at
$60 Cdn. Seven people’s names are printed on this certificate
- the friend’s name is on the
bottom. Once the certificate has been purchased, you are
asked to send $60 to the person
who is shown in the top position. You are also asked to send
an additional $60 to Future
Strategies Srl, Via Muratori 1, Carpi (Mo) 41012, Italy, to
cover administrative costs. Once this
has been paid, the buyer will receive three additional
certificates with his/her name in 7th
position. The buyer must then sell each additional
certificate at $60 each. By the time the
buyer’s name reaches the top of the list, the company claims
a total of $131,220 can be
earned. Future Strategies says “the mathematically tested
Pentagono system represents the
improvement and best synthesis of over 50 years of experience
and university studies”.
The RCMP Economic Crime Branch has reviewed these reports and
believes that this
investment solicitation exhibits the characteristics of a
common "pyramid" scheme and
readers are warned that continued participation in the scheme
may result in a charge under
Section 206(1)(e) of the Criminal Code of Canada.
The RCMP has been advised by Italian authorities that this
scheme does not constitute a
criminal offence in Italy, but rather a violation of an
administrative procedure. The Italian
authorities will not be intervening.
The purpose of this bulletin is to alert the Canadian public
to this scheme, still running on the
Internet, so as to prevent readers from becoming innocent
victims. If you encounter any sort
of Internet investment solicitation that encourages you to
urgently mail or send funds and you
feel compelled to participate, the RCMP urges you to first
seek the advice of a local
investment advisor or banker. Rely only on real people that
you can trust!
The only few cases anywhere in the world where this was legally
challenged was lost in court. So you were saying?...
Future Stategies wealth redistribution system is completely legal,
registered and approved by the Chamber of Commerce in Modeno, Italy. The
company has been operating the system successfully for three years; is
completely debt free, honest and highly regard by many thousands of
participants in over 80 countries worldwide!
People in Canda have the legal right to employ the services of a legally
registered company in another country. It is also considered that people
join this program without malicious intent and without misrepresentation
or deception of any kind. There is nothing offensive, dangerous or
damaging to people with this system. Furthermore, no legal action has
been taken against a single participant of Future Strategies anywhere in
the world since the company started five years ago.
If this system were unethical, it would not have been allowed to operate
successfully for the last five years without international condemnation!
Since there is no guarantee of money to be made, everyone who
participates knows that any potential earnings are wholly dependant on
the participants initiative. Future Stategies does not promise to make
you rich overnight...unlike the Lotto 649, Powerball and Scratch'n Win
tickets...it takes a certain amount of effort and time in order for the
system to work. In order for this game to be illegal, a judge would have
to deem it so. This will only happen through someone involved
misrepresenting themselves or the ideas behind the game.
Future Strategies provides it's participants with a valuable cmmodity in
the Countdown Discount Card, good for discounts throughout the world
with participating merchants. The purchase of a product categorizes the
game as multi-level marketing...not a pyramid scheme.
"An opinion under section 55 and 55.1 of the Act will not be given in
the following situations: where the plan involves gold or silver coins,
the travel industry or discount cards. An opinion will not be given in
these situations because of the difficulty in establishing the value of
these products.
In such cases it is not possible to determine whether consideration is
being paid for the right to receive bonuses for recruitment. An opinion
will also not be provided where the operator is situated outside of
Canada and there is no entity incorporated in Canada, or no individual
located in Canada who could be liable for the actions of the company."
---Competion Act, Industry Canada
The joining fee is only $189.00, a small amount compared to the
potential gain. It is also a much better investment than lotteries and
other forms of gambling which offer very little chance of winning
anything. Lotteries are real "get rich quick scams," with millions of
people contributing and only one winner. No one is forced to
participate, it is entirely their freedom of choice.
This system of wealth redistribution allows ordinary people to gain
financially, affering a low risk, highly lucrative opportunity to
improve their lives.
And what's wrong with that?
Catch my post elsewhere as you have no ears to hear!
Anaconda
> Please Remember folk: If it sounds too good to be true, then it is too good
> to be true!
>
> MLM Avenger
>
Now, as to the scam being a game, illegal betting is also a game, albeit
illegal. You may call it a game, you may call it a religious experience. The
fact of the matter is that some people have less chance of "winning" than
others, and some have no chance in hell. But if you insist on calling it a
game, tell me this; Is it a game of skill? or is it a game of chance? (all
games fall under one of these two categories)
One more thing; If you are up on international events, you undoubtely
know what happened in Albania in '96-97 and what caused riots and the
eventual fall of the government. If you guessed pyramid scams, you are
correct. I can't say that it was connected to this one or not, but the
similarities are there. People lost their life savings because they were
unlucky enough to be at the bottom of the pyramid. Mind you, Albania is a
small country. It will take longer in North America but the result will be
the same. A lot of pissed of people.
--
Regards, Mike
Email address
is available
upon request
Anaconda wrote in message <36DB78AC...@NOSPAMhome.com>...
zaal, smart enough to know better.
On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 16:41:16 GMT, Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com>
wrote:
Read the report and you be the judge... I must find the Pentagono program
guilty as charged! :-)
Garth
P.S. Anyone more pissed about losing Theo than this pyramid crap eh! :-(
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* PENTAGONO: The Whole Truth And Nothing But The Truth! *
* Co-authored by Graeme V.O. Clark & David J. Warren *
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Royal Canadian Mounted Police Public Alert -
Internet Scam Warning: DO NOT BECOME A VICTIM!
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/scams.htm
North American Update --
Congratulations on your decision to further investigate our Internet
Scam Warning. Make no mistake you have made an intelligent decision.
Let's get right to the point. As an online entrepreneur you are most
likely aware of the growing number of quasi-legitimate opportunities
being pumped out via online get-rich-quick hype machine. And among
the most popular of scams are pyramid schemes masquerading as multi-
level marketing plans.
Unfortunately, peoples morals, ethics, and common sense are tossed to
the wind in the greed induced quest for BIG dollars NOW! That's what
is taking place with an Italian based wealth re-distribution scheme.
Our motivation for publishing this Special Investigative Report is to
expose what we believe to be fraudulent activity.
Why?... Because You Deserve to Know the Truth!
==========================================
Welcome to Pentagono AKA Future Strategies
==========================================
What is Pentagono AKA Future Strategies?
Future Strategies S.r.l. is a privately owned Italian company founded
in late 1994 and located in Carpi,Italy in the Province of Modena. In
March of 1995 Future Strategies began promoting and administering the
system Pentagono under the pretense of helping people to overcome
financial hardship. Then in January of 1996 Future Strategies decided
to expand Pentagono internationally and claim the system is available
in over 100 countries.
The Future Strategies S.r.l. administrators state the company is owned
and operated by two Directors who are lifelong friends, is 100% legal
and fully approved by the Italian government, completely debt-free and
has no affiliations to any other group or business, and that the staff
now comprises of more than 50 people of various nationalities with the
objective to better assist participants from various countries.
According to information obtained by the Chamber of Commerce of Modena
on December 1st, 1998 per C.C.I.A.A. Registration Number 276952:
FUTURE STRATEGIES S.r.l (joint-stock limited company)
Chief Executive Officer - Mr. Marri Claudio
VAT n° 02252430364
Head office: Branch office:
Via S. Pellico 3 Viale A. Moro 18
41012 Carpi - Province of Modena 41012 Carpi
tel. 059/643578 tel. 059/643578
fax 059/691369 or 059/643809
Employed - 2 people
Capital of Lit. - 20.000.000 (US$ 11.764 more or less)
Activity - Realization of game and mathematical plays (with money)
Complaints - We have received from other people complaints about
their business practices.
Source: Chamber of Commerce of Modena http://www.mo.camcom.it
Future Strategies S.r.l. also administers and operates the relatively
new complimentary international wealth re-distribution scheme called
VALUEFAX. And even though VALUEFAX differs from the Pentagono program
ever so slightly, the principle remains the same.
The Future Strategies S.r.l. wealth re-distribution systems are fully
administered and operated from the headquarters in Carpi,Italy.
Future Strategies S.r.l.: http://www.future.it
=====================
The Pentagono Concept
=====================
Firstly, this Pentagono system involves the purchase of a certificate.
This certificate lists the names of seven participants on it.
New recruits pay the sum of $120 ($180 CDN) when they enter Pentagono;
$40 ($60 CDN) will go to the person who signed them up, $40 ($60 CDN)
goes directly to Future Strategies S.r.l. to cover administration and
monitoring fees, and the remaining $40.00 ($60 CDN) goes to the person
on the Top Position of the certificate.
When this new recruit has been processed he/she will then receive (3)
Pentagono Certificates from Future Strategies S.r.l. with his/her name
in Position 7. This new recruit is now required to go out and sell the
(3) certificates for $40 ($60 CDN) each to (3) new participants within
the first 90 days or this new recruit forfeits his/her position.
As each successive level below the newest position gets sold this new
recruits name continues to rise on the list until it reaches the top
position. At this point, Future Strategies S.r.l. administrators claim
the new recruit will make $87,480 ($131,220 CDN) thanks to 2187 people
on the 7th position who each send the new recruit $40 ($60 CDN).
Future Strategies S.r.l. will provide (1) BONUS Pentagono Certificate
to participants who activate their (3) original certificates within 30
days. When you activate this certificate you get a chance to increase
your earnings up to $116,640 ($174,960 CDN) (i.e., 2916 x $40/$60).
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Introduction to Wealth Re-Distribution 101
==========================================
Does the Pentagono system work?
Future Strategies S.r.l. administrators claim that the mathematically
tested Pentagono system represents the improvement and best synthesis
of over 50 years of experience and university studies.
A quick example of the "Three Who Recruit Three" mathematically tested
Pentagono system would be as follows:
3 -> 9 -> 27 -> 81 -> 243 -> 729 -> 2187 -> 6561 -> 19,683 -> 59,049
If you simply follow those growing numbers and do the math you quickly
come to learn you will inevitably exceed our world's population.
Pentagono is a "closed system" therefore the amount of money shared by
each and every participant determines total amount of available money
for distribution. In a closed system one persons gain is always at the
expense of another persons loss.
Consistent is the ratio between the number of people who have any gain
and the total number of participants. The percentage is always .0305%,
or 99.9695% of the participants will have no monetary gain.
It is logically and mathematically impossible for every participant to
gain since the pool of funds and the number of people are both finite.
A limited amount of money in the pool, limited number of people in the
program. The only money made via this Pentagono wealth re-distribution
program is at the expense of people losing money.
For a more detailed analysis of the Pentagono compensation plan please
visit the following source: http://www.tgx.com/pentabono/pentabono.htm
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Gross Misrepresentation of the Facts
====================================
Does the Pentagono program have a product?
Pentagono AKA Future Strategies program has an alleged product called
Countdown Card. The discount card which is issued by Countdown PLC is
used to obtain discount in participating establishments worldwide.
Countdown head office's in the UK state their association with Future
Strategies S.r.l is via an Italian licensee. Future Strategies S.r.l.
is a client of the Italian licensee Countdown Italia Agri Immobiliare
S.a.r.l. located in Rome,Italy.
Countdown PLC head office in London, England states Future Strategies
S.r.l produces the cards with the Countdown symbol on them. When each
new recruit joins Pentagono they will receive the Countdown Card FREE
with the general information on Countdown PLC and how they can obtain
discounts. Countdown PLC did confirm that all new recruits interested
in finding out more about where to obtain discount must first contact
Countdown PLC head offices in the UK and Countdown PLC will then sell
the Pentagono recruit copy of the directories containing discounts.
For all intents and purposes Pentagono has NO PRODUCT! The participant
never purchased the Countdown Card. Thus, any claims by Pentagono AKA
Future Strategies proponents which lead prospects to believe Countdown
Card is "the product" is a gross misrepresentation of the facts.
We requested that Future Strategies S.r.l. provide documentation which
support claims this Pentagono program has a legitimate product. Future
Strategies S.r.l. administrators have refused to respond.
Countdown PLC: http://www.countdown.plc.uk
Countdown Italia: http://www.countdown.it/default.asp
==============================
Is Pentagono a Pyramid Scheme?
==============================
In order for us to determine the legality of this Pentagono system we
must first acknowledge what a pyramid selling scheme is, correct.
What is a pyramid scheme?
Pyramid Scheme - A fraudulent system of making money which requires an
endless stream of new recruits for success. In the pyramid scheme each
new recruit: a) gives money to his/her recruiters, and; b) must enlist
fresh recruits to give him/her money.
Future Strategies S.r.l. administrators claim their product is the key
that each Pentagono participant is purchasing a discount card good for
discounts throughout the world at participating merchants.
Fact!... The Countdown Card is issued by Future Strategies S.r.l. FREE
OF CHARGE to all Pentagono participants and is included in the mailing
with their (3) Pentagono certificates. The only purchase recruits ever
make in the Pentagono program is when they purchase a certificate.
In the Pentagono wealth re-distribution program the new recruits never
purchase product. In fact, these new recruits only purchased an ACTIVE
POSITION in the Pentagono marketing plan.
The Pentagono program is solely dependant upon continuously recruiting
new participants in an effort to make money. Compensation paid for the
recruitment of other individuals into this Pentagono marketing plan is
a function or activity deemed illegal under US and Canadian laws.
In reference to the US law:
http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/usc18/
US readers seeking information on pyramid schemes refer to:
http://www.dsa.org/pyramid.stm
In reference to the Canadian law:
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/ct01141e.html
Canadian readers seeking information on pyramid schemes refer to:
http://www.dsa.ca/html/pyramid.html
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Pentagono AKA Future Strategies Exposed
=======================================
Here are just a few of the many facts and realities you won't be given
by Pentagono AKA Future Strategies proponents:
In Australia, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, that
is the government authority in charge of enforcement of their pyramid
selling laws has stated that Pentagono is pyramid selling scheme.
Source: Australian Competition and Consumer Commission
http://www.accc.gov.au
Excerpt taken from the Wall Street Journal:
*100,000 Malaysians Conned In Internet Scam*
08/18/97 Singapore Straits Times
KUALA LUMPUR -- 100,000 Malaysians have been conned into joining a
get-rich-quick scheme operated through the Internet by an Italian
firm, the Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Ministry has said.
Source: Wall Street Journal
http://www.wsj.com
Excerpt taken from the Japanese High-Tech News -- February 18, 1998:
Japanese Police Investigate Internet-Based Chain Letter Business
The Fukuoka prefectural police are investigating ten or more people in
the city of Kitakyushu, for possible violation of the "Anti-Infinite-
Chain-Structure Business Law," which went into effect here in 1979.
The focus of the investigation is a Web site called "Pentagono," which
is, very simply, a slick chain letter -- made available to a global
pool of the criminally naive by the Internet.
Source: Japanese High-Tech News
http://www.ascii.co.jp/english/news/archive/98/02/18/
Source: Japan Consumer Information Center
http://3w-kokusen.newnet.ne.jp/jcicindex.html
Excerpt taken from the South China Morning Post:
October 12, 1998 -- Vice-Counsel Raul Hernandez of the Philippine
Consulate in Hong Kong announced Philippines Security Exchange
Commission has issued an order against Pentagono scheme not to sell
or to offer any more certificates and has alerted banks in Hong Kong
and abroad.
Source: South China Morning Post
http://www.scmp.com
Received on December 8th, 1998 as provided by the RCMP Prince George
British Columbia Detachment - Commercial Crimes Division
RCMP PUBLIC ALERT - Future Strategies Srl - Pentagono
Public Alert -- The RCMP Economic Crime Branch has reviewed these
reports and believes that this investment solicitation exhibits the
characteristics of a common "pyramid" scheme and readers are warned
that continued participation in the scheme may result in a charge
under Section 206(1)(e) of the Criminal Code of Canada.
Source: Royal Canadian Mounted Police
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/scams.htm
Now think for a moment...
Does Pentagono AKA Future Strategies have the ethical stability in an
Internet Business Opportunity you would want to participate in?
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The Deceit, Lies, and Deception
===============================
While researching Pentagono AKA Future Strategies we became privy to
immoral and unethical tactics typically employed by promoters of such
scheme. The purpose is to intimidate and control members within their
pyramid, while trying to discredit others who simply know better.
These overt campaigns of ignorance and indecency are always the master
plan of key leaders who influence diehard loyalists within their ranks
to carry out the mission at hand. The "modus operandi" includes use of
fraud, threat, intimidation, slander, malice and lies. Pentagono AKA
Future Strategies is a perfect example of this work in action.
And even though business practices of these loyal Pentagono leaders are
unethical and illegal, such people without conscience continue to push
the legal envelope in their ongoing effort to get their dirty hands on
your hard earned money, and the hard earned money of people you know.
When does it end?... You decide!
If you, or someone you know, has been the victim of business practices
which violate US or Canadian laws then don't hesitate to take action.
In the US contact the FTC Bureau of Consumer Protection:
http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm or via phone 1.202.382.4357
In Canada contact the Industry Canada Competition Bureau:
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/ct01246e.html
1.800.348.5358 or via fax 1.819.997.0324
==================================
Is Pentagono a Losing Proposition?
==================================
Future Strategies S.r.l. administrators and Pentagono system loyalists
claim this program has proven to be simple, affordable, efficient, and
is very professionally operated.
The sad fact is the only people who make the real money with Pentagono
are Mr. Marri Claudio, his lifelong friend and associate, and morally
bankrupt "group administrators", who control both the money and active
certificate positions within their personal Pentagono pyramid.
Yes, these people possess the experience, the ability, and the genuine
desire to prey on the trusting nature of innocent people. And the only
effective weapon available to combat these reprobates is education.
Future Strategies S.r.l. administrators have failed to co-operate, and
absolutely refuse to respond to the growing public demand of Pentagono
detractors and participants alike. To comply and respond to legitimate
questions and concerns would force them to reveal the ugly truth.
In our ongoing effort to educate and assist others in due diligence we
provide this well researched expose after documenting the evidence and
facts gathered with help from international press releases, internet
scam warnings, Canadian, American, Australian, New Zealand, Malaysian,
Japanese, Chinese, British and Italian government or civilian sources.
If the Pentagono (and/or VALUEFAX) program is relevant to you, or even
someone you know, we strongly encourage you to re-examine the FACTS!
======================================
Pyramid Schemes and the Domino Effect!
======================================
Future Strategies S.r.l claims that it's main purpose is to administer
the worldwide wealth re-distribution systems Pentagono and VALUEFAX as
ethical and honest opportunity for everyone.
But in reality Future Strategies Italian based wealth re-distribution
referral systems cheat the vast majority of participants. Now, we ask
you... What's so ethical and honest about that?
Ultimately, this Pentagono (and VALUEFAX) program will cease to exist
when fresh prospects stop signing up in the great numbers necessary to
keep paying those at the top of the pyramid.
Common sense dictates there will always be intelligent people who can
smell a scheme immediately. And people who know that if it sounds too
good to be true, then in fact, it obviously is too good to be true.
The problem for the honest and ethical Network Marketer is that, even
though pyramid schemes masquerading as multi-level marketing programs
never last, the fact remains they do a great deal of damage to public
perceptions of the Network Marketing industry and people within.
For this reason, we invite you to be part of the most exciting wave
of positive change in the history of Network Marketing. A grassroots
movement with zero tolerance towards lies, hype, and miss-information.
Taking a stand & action against the dishonest and unethical, and thus
providing the catalyst for the legitimate Paradigm Shift that will
place the Network Marketing Industry on an entire new level. But best
of all, greatly reducing the "element" that brings our People Helping
People industry into disrepute.
Yes, together we can make the difference between RIGHT and WRONG! The
question is... Do YOU want to make the difference?
Food for thought! :)
Revised 98/12/22
© Copyright 1998 David J. Warren/visionquest & Graeme V.O. Clark
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About the Co-authors --
Graeme V.O. Clark lives in British Columbia,Canada, and is one of the
founding members of MLMTRUTH Coalition. As such, Graeme is a respected
MLM Mentor with a passion for educating people on the specifics of how
to make a common sense business decision in Network Marketing and to
achieve financial abundance in MLM by sorting through the hype, scams,
lies and misinformation. You can contact him via email or his website:
mailto:mlmt...@mlmcentral.com OR http://www.mlmcentral.com/mlmtruth/
David J. Warren lives in Ontario,Canada, and is a nine year veteran of
the network marketing industry. David is dedicated to the Research and
Education of Network Marketing and committed to People Helping People.
You can contact him via e-mail @ visionquest: mailto:vq....@pobox.com
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Anaconda wrote:
> Investigations by several legal firms, along with reviews by police and
> federal agencies have confirmed that Future Strategies is both ethical
> and not a pyramid.
Please list the legal firms, police detachments/agencies, and the
federal agencies in Canada that have confirmed the above.
If applicable, provide url links, and complete addresses of the
agencies.
I would like to get in touch with them.
Thanks,
Vip
>Investigations by several legal firms, along with reviews by police and
>federal agencies have confirmed that Future Strategies is both ethical
>and not a pyramid. Just because this system branches out, does not make
>it a pyramid. Future Strategies is defined in size and everyone has an
Quit spamming you jerk...how many groups do you have to post it
to?!?!?
OK..so what do they sell??? If i put in my money what am i getting?? A
blank peice of paper??? Then what???
Spiff
pyramid..thats what it is...
Anaconda
> Please Remember folk: If it sounds too good to be true, then it is too good
> to be true!
>
> MLM Avenger
>
Hey take a HIKE!!!
QUIT SPAMMING - NOBODY WANTS YOUR MONEY
I'M SICK OF SEEING YOU BAD MOUTHING SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN.
Lots of people are happy with this system and I would be glad to help
anyone who is having a problem with Pentagano or this IDIOT.
--
Regards, Mike
Email address
is available
upon request
Mr Cuba wrote in message <36E4B7...@telusplanet.net>...
First, let me just say that it absolutely amazes me that you would even
consider the sharing of "valid information" to be SPAM. Get real man!
More importanly, I'm just a little curious "Mr Cuba" about exactly how you
intend to help anyone who is having a problem with "Pentagono" or "this
IDIOT"?
Hope you don't mind my asking eh. Care to share with the group?
Garth
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<snip>
Ah, don't go lettin no fart grow on your brain son. If you were readin way
back when ya'd already know I don't eat that canned spam. No sir just like to
call it the way it is. A PYRAMID SELLING SCHEME!
What be the problem then son, you can't handle the truth?
Lot's of people are happy with this here Pentagono Pyramid Scheme system now
are they Mr Cuba. Got any proof of that there comment boy. NO! Now I don't
imagine you would.
By the by, we here in public property and this old boy ain't taking to no
hike. So then (RED) what ya'll gonna do to this here IDIOT? You ain't gonna
go on and threaten my kin folk now are ya Cuba? Who are ya boy?
See ya round son.
MLM Avenger
In article <36E4B7...@telusplanet.net>,
Did you not hear that there are a number of us (both you idiots!) who
are happily playing our game of Pentagono, and who gives a flying ___
what you think!!! Fly your stink elsewhere...
What ya been up to in those there snowy regions son. You ain't been scammin
good folk to join you in that there Pentagono pyramid scheme now have ya.
Now why ya gotta be so ignorant towards me Bennie. Might be because someone
done peed snake oil on your Pentagono Pyramid Parade, might be.
Ya just don't get it now do ya son. That there Pentagono long since lost its
head a steam in those there parts and you be the loser son. Just another one
fool sittin at the bottom a the pile.
Anaconda, now you and other Pentagono folk be the real losers who don't seem
to be makin it in that get rich quick scheme. How much a that there green
have you made with Pentagono son? Do that math son! Can't work, won't work!
Ain't no need for ya to keep on gettin snaughty with me boy, your trash talk
is typical of pyramid victims or ingnorant scammers tryin to control all the
opinions. Hell son even this here country bumpkin know what you and your kind
is all about.
So ya just gonna be ignorant and trash talk kind folk is all. Now son that's
what ya real good at ain't it Bennie.
Now am I right boy. Yes sir!
Hell son like they do say - There's a sucker born every minute.
MLM Avenger
P.S. Son ya best stop harassin me with your trash talk email posts. That a be
mighty kind of ya sir if ya'd oblige me.
Ya guys ever heard of Britts Worldwide? I'm in that right now, it's a
sub-division of the HORRIBLE AMWAY. But after being in the business
for almost a year, it's really not that bad. I never had to CON
people into buying my products, i never had to demonstrate for them
how to use the products, i just basically bought the things i needed
for myself at a distributor's rate. They say you can make 2-3
thousand dollars per month in 2-6 months, believe me, you gota be
either really annoying, force people at gun point, or luckily "have
alot of connections" to get the business to go that fast. I've been
in it for almost a year, and i'm just hitting that mark now, 2-6
months my butt. But at least it's competely LEGAL and it's a real
home based business.
If ya didn't notice, I sorta am trying to promote this business. I've
seen MLM, and i've seen Pyramid Schemes, but this one has worked for
me... It may not work for everyone, but it's worked for me. And
believe me people, i'm only 20 years old, but i notice, sometimes if
it's too good to be true, it's too good to be true.
Anyone ever into these MLM Programs notice that the draws and the
explanations are so simple, but when you try to put it to practice
it's 100 times harder? i totally do. But anywayz, i'm going to leave
this with the last message.
If you're interested in knowing more about it, please email me at
rip...@hotmail.com or jar...@hotmail.com I'm from calgary too.
(Also promoting Da Vinci Innovations) "a REAL homebased business, and
not a MLM"
Take care everyone, money's out there, just gota know how to get there
legally and safely....
As stated before, you are not a judge, and none have made a judgement
against Pentagono nor even gone to court for a hearing; so all your
pronouncements are just that, you bad boys!
So contrary to you "opinions", it is NOT banned in Canada. If you
believe that, then you will believe anything...If YOU are interested in
playing THIS game, then feel free to contact me, as I always have paper
to write...and I am not afraid of any police knocking on my door!
a fool and his money........
Spoken like the true computer geek hiding behind his keyboard. I'm sure if
they showed up at your door to hall you in downtown, you'd probably piss
your pants...
Pentagono is currently under investigation by the RCMP and the FBI. So go
ahead Anaconda, make your mark! But I think that mark will probably be just
a stain in your underwear...
Who you directing your comments to "bshadow". If your talking to me then I
suggest you piss off eh, you hoser.
BTW, its not about a "fool and his money" pinhead. Its about right and
wrong and the fact that pyramid schemes DO bring honest and ethical marketers
into disrepute.
Maybe your old lady dropped you on your head when you were young, maybe?
Garth
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In article <36E616B2...@home.com>,
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>If you think that they are banned in Canada, you are wrong; we are
>playing right here in Calgary, and at the moment, getting money every
>day, hehehe!!! Tony Tighe did not do adequate research nor any of you
>other pronouncers.
>
ok..like i asked you before(and DIDNT get a response)...What is the
object of this scheme? What does my giving you money enable me to
do/get??? If i gave you money do i get a product or service to sell or
what?? How bout dispelling some myths...
Spiff
Anaconda
Where are the lies with Pentagono?
Do your homework and quit being stupid!
Anaconda
Garth Twain wrote:
>
> Bshadow,
>
> Who you directing your comments to "bshadow". If your talking to me then I
> suggest you piss off eh, you hoser.
>
> BTW, its not about a "fool and his money" pinhead. Its about right and
> wrong and the fact that pyramid schemes DO bring honest and ethical marketers
> into disrepute.
>
> Maybe your old lady dropped you on your head when you were young, maybe?
>
> Garth
> -----
>
> In article <36E616B2...@home.com>,
> bsh...@home.com wrote:
> > YOU SOUND LIKE YOU`RE JUST TOO FUCKING STUPID TO GET IT!
> > DID YOU GET BEAT UP A LOT IN SCHOOL?
> >
> > a fool and his money........
> >
> >
>
Anaconda
A person buys 1 certificate from the person introducing the game to you
(for $60), pays $60 to the person at the top of the certificate, and $60
to the parent company in Italy (a legally registered company) 3
certificates are then faxed/e-mailed back to you (sometimes within
minutes) with your name in the bottom position on the certificate. They
send other supportive documents and a discount card valid around the
world (a booklet gives the places offering discounts with the card
around the world) in snail mail. The card is the only international
discount card in the world, and this is the product that makes the
process (along with the certificates) legal.
Once a person has the certificate in hand, they then sell the 3
certificates Pentagono issued, thereby completely recovering ones money
invested in the game. The only way a person loses is if they do not sell
the certificates. If the 3 are sold within a month, a 4th certificate is
given as a free bonus. The certificates can be tracked at every stage
via computer and the net, so that one even knows who is sending money,
positioning etc. If one is unable to sell a certificate, then after 90
days, the company reabsorbs the certificate(s) and reissues them as
bonus certificates to others. This way the game continues, regardless of
unsold certificates! When a person rises to the 7th level, (from one
week to several--I received money after 4 weeks) one starts to receive
$60 money orders in the mail. As it is a game (like a lottery) it is not
taxable and is like being paid cash. One collects around 2167 money
orders when the game ends (pyramids go on and on, and support a
heirarchical structure; this does not--has fixed numbers).
Many people play again and again. I am in for the second time, and will
always have certificates to sell, even if I run out. (will simply buy in
again) So many of the players are seasoned and keep going around and
using their own strategies, such as selling a certificate for everyone
in the downline so that there is immediate cash happening; which spurs
on the sale of the other 2 certificates.
There are many strategies that are helpful (to those playing). My group
has elected to have weekly meetings, and it is a good social time for
all and source of information for anyone new. It is certainly not dying
down, but has been going for years in 103 countries with no court
challenges anywhere--never being made illegal anywhere in these 103
countries (despite all the hohahas on this newsgroup, or scare tactics
known to be used around the world) I have had money from around the
world, and presently coming from Vancouver.
Nothing dishonest about it, everything is declared, and nothing
guaranteed! Ethically sound also, BUT it does show up people's attitudes
and issues around money! Some will never accept that this is a wealth
redistribution game, operating differently to the way we are accustomed
to making money.
That's basically how it works.
Like to play? E-Mail me!
Anaconda
Newsflash pinhead - If the shit hit the fan your ass would be grass and
you know it. Your so very predictably pathetic you make we laugh. "Zaal" was
absolutely correct - You do make NG reading fun.
Garth
-----
In article <36E69A60...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> There has never been a case in North America brought to court. So sorry
> about the investigations. I am here if they want to file!!!
>
> Anaconda
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
Garth
P.S. You can't provide any proof that Pentagono is legit can you Anaconda. Go
on and try to dispute any of the information in the reprot, website, RCMP. NO!
You can't and you won't because your kind are far too predictable... Ouch!
-----
In article <36E69A0E...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> Soory Garth, but honest marketers?
>
> Where are the lies with Pentagono?
>
> Do your homework and quit being stupid!
>
North American Update --
VAT n° 02252430364
Food for thought! :)
_________________________________________________________________
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
Anaconda
Garth Twain wrote:
>
> Well then Anaconda, you want me to believe you have the genital fortitude
> to provide your real name to include physical address and Pentagono ID for the
> purpose of filing complaint with the "good ole boy" SGT. at RCMP Calgary and
> Industry Canada Complaints Dept. You don't have the balls tough guy!
>
> Newsflash pinhead - If the shit hit the fan your ass would be grass and
> you know it. Your so very predictably pathetic you make we laugh. "Zaal" was
> absolutely correct - You do make NG reading fun.
>
> Garth
> -----
>
> In article <36E69A60...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
> Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> > There has never been a case in North America brought to court. So sorry
> > about the investigations. I am here if they want to file!!!
> >
> > Anaconda
>
Anaconda
Garth Twain wrote:
>
> Why not open your mind and check out any of that information provided here
> Anaconda, I did, and its all legit. Then again, that would be too easy to do
> and you already know it would prove you wrong so you will just remain
> ignorant and trash talk. Its what you do best isn't it Anaconda. Must be
> tough what with you being so challenged and all eh.
>
> Garth
>
> P.S. You can't provide any proof that Pentagono is legit can you Anaconda. Go
> on and try to dispute any of the information in the reprot, website, RCMP. NO!
> You can't and you won't because your kind are far too predictable... Ouch!
> -----
>
> In article <36E69A0E...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
> Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> > Soory Garth, but honest marketers?
> >
> > Where are the lies with Pentagono?
> >
> > Do your homework and quit being stupid!
> >
This is Mrs. Anaconda here, I haven't been following your discussion
here, but I understand there is some disagreement about whether
Pentagono works or not. I have made about $1000 so far, and have letters
from law firms affirming the legality of the process. I also know that
it is not illegal in any country, so I think it's a great game. Two more
money orders in the last couple of days. It's fun getting money in the
mail!
Blessings to you.
Garth Twain wrote:
>
> Well then Anaconda, you want me to believe you have the genital fortitude
> to provide your real name to include physical address and Pentagono ID for the
> purpose of filing complaint with the "good ole boy" SGT. at RCMP Calgary and
> Industry Canada Complaints Dept. You don't have the balls tough guy!
>
> Newsflash pinhead - If the shit hit the fan your ass would be grass and
> you know it. Your so very predictably pathetic you make we laugh. "Zaal" was
> absolutely correct - You do make NG reading fun.
>
> Garth
> -----
>
> In article <36E69A60...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
> Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> > There has never been a case in North America brought to court. So sorry
> > about the investigations. I am here if they want to file!!!
> >
Nice to meet you. There are no ifs, ands, or buts your a far better chat
than your old man is eh.
Anaconda sure does need to lighten up because he seems to be getting
stressed out. What to do! ;-)
About the legality of Pentagono...
Now don't misunderstand me I never said no one makes money in Pentagono.
Yes, some have but its at the expense of others... Why?... Its a pyramid
scheme but you already know that eh.
BTW, I'm the Pentagono "Insider" so nice try Susan but I'm not buying what
your selling. Yes, I have heard it all and we both know you don't have any
law firms affirming Pentagono's legality. Sorry Susan but I know the drill.
;-)
Pentagono is a "Pyramid Scheme" and that makes it illegal in Canada!...
Good Luck.
Garth
-----
In article <36E6D256...@home.com>,
Susan <susa...@home.com> wrote:
> Hi Garth,
>
> This is Mrs. Anaconda here, I haven't been following your discussion
> here, but I understand there is some disagreement about whether
> Pentagono works or not. I have made about $1000 so far, and have letters
> from law firms affirming the legality of the process. I also know that
> it is not illegal in any country, so I think it's a great game. Two more
> money orders in the last couple of days. It's fun getting money in the
> mail!
>
> Blessings to you.
>
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
Blah, blah, blah!... You just keep talking trash and never even try to
offer proof that its legal. You can't possibly, but you already know that.
You should be more respectful in converasion like your wife is. She's quite
capable of getting a message across without that puke, unlike your sorry ass.
I do hate to have keep pissing you off but - YOUR WRONG and well I'M
RIGHT... How do I know that... Hmmm ... Because I'm the "insider" to the
Pentagono reality pinhead and all the information has been confirmed.
Go ahead and ask your upline... You do trust them to tell you the truth
right Anaconda. <LOL>
BTW, the two boys and Maria in Italy are laughing at you Pentagono puppets
while they always get their cut no matter waht happens.
I do like you Anaconda, I really do, you make me laugh and your easy to
manipulate. But if you keep on taunting me in private with jokes about my
cock, then I'm going to have to slap you around like you were my prison
bitch... Ouch!... That's gonna hurt. :-))
Garth
P.S. Two can play your game Anaconda, only I'm better at it! Chat real soon
Anaconda.
----
In article <36E6CE8B...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
Blah, blah, blah!... You just keep talking trash and never even try to
offer proof that its legal. You can't possibly, but you already know that.
You should be more respectful in converasion like your wife is. She's quite
capable of getting a message across without that puke, unlike your sorry ass.
I do hate to have to keep pissing you off but - YOUR WRONG and well I'M
RIGHT... How do I know that... Hmmm ... Well now that's because I'm the
Pentagono "Insider" who knows what's really going on pinhead. AND ALL THAT
INFORMATION IN THE REPORT AND AT THE WEBSITES IS FACT AND UPDATED!!!
Go ahead and ask your upline... You do trust them to tell you the truth
right Anaconda. <LOL> I already did my homework, so where's your proof?
BTW, the two boys and Maria in Italy are laughing at you Pentagono puppets
while they always get their cut no matter what happens.
I do like you Anaconda, I really do, you make me laugh and your easy to
manipulate. But if you keep on taunting me in private with jokes about my
cock, then I'm going to have to slap you around like you were my prison
bitch. Ouch! ... That's gonna hurt. :-))
Garth
P.S. Two can play your game Anaconda, only I'm better at it! Go ahead and call
the SGT @ RCMP Anaconda... Who's laughing now eh, you hoser! :-))
-----
In article <36E6CCFE...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> Sorry you guys have to resort to your dick size. Grow up!!
>
> Anaconda
>
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
As for Anaconda, we aren't bringing your sexuality into the spotlight. Why would
you let us in on your Crossdressing?
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:13:06 GMT, Susan <susa...@home.com> wasted a little
bandwidth by writing:
>Hi Garth,
>
> This is Mrs. Anaconda here, I haven't been following your discussion
>here, but I understand there is some disagreement about whether
>Pentagono works or not. I have made about $1000 so far, and have letters
>from law firms affirming the legality of the process. I also know that
>it is not illegal in any country, so I think it's a great game. Two more
>money orders in the last couple of days. It's fun getting money in the
>mail!
>
>Blessings to you.
>
>Garth Twain wrote:
>>
>> Well then Anaconda, you want me to believe you have the genital fortitude
>> to provide your real name to include physical address and Pentagono ID for the
>> purpose of filing complaint with the "good ole boy" SGT. at RCMP Calgary and
>> Industry Canada Complaints Dept. You don't have the balls tough guy!
>>
>> Newsflash pinhead - If the shit hit the fan your ass would be grass and
>> you know it. Your so very predictably pathetic you make we laugh. "Zaal" was
>> absolutely correct - You do make NG reading fun.
>>
>> Garth
>> -----
>>
>> In article <36E69A60...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
>> Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
>> > There has never been a case in North America brought to court. So sorry
>> > about the investigations. I am here if they want to file!!!
>> >
>> > Anaconda
>>
>> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
--- What the hell are you looking at? Never seen an idiot
before? ---
So much for my crossdressing theory.
Garth, he's getting stressed out because he sees us informing people of the
repercussions that are included when getting involved with a pyramid scheme. And
that is all Pentaboner is, a pyramid scheme.
zaal
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:52:16 GMT, Garth Twain <garth...@my-dejanews.com>
wasted a little bandwidth by writing:
>Hi Susan,
>
> Nice to meet you. There are no ifs, ands, or buts your a far better chat
>than your old man is eh.
>
> Anaconda sure does need to lighten up because he seems to be getting
>stressed out. What to do! ;-)
>
> About the legality of Pentagono...
>
> Now don't misunderstand me I never said no one makes money in Pentagono.
>Yes, some have but its at the expense of others... Why?... Its a pyramid
>scheme but you already know that eh.
>
> BTW, I'm the Pentagono "Insider" so nice try Susan but I'm not buying what
>your selling. Yes, I have heard it all and we both know you don't have any
>law firms affirming Pentagono's legality. Sorry Susan but I know the drill.
>;-)
>
> Pentagono is a "Pyramid Scheme" and that makes it illegal in Canada!...
>Good Luck.
>
>Garth
>-----
>
>In article <36E6D256...@home.com>,
> Susan <susa...@home.com> wrote:
>> Hi Garth,
>>
>> This is Mrs. Anaconda here, I haven't been following your discussion
>> here, but I understand there is some disagreement about whether
>> Pentagono works or not. I have made about $1000 so far, and have letters
>> from law firms affirming the legality of the process. I also know that
>> it is not illegal in any country, so I think it's a great game. Two more
>> money orders in the last couple of days. It's fun getting money in the
>> mail!
>>
>> Blessings to you.
>>
>
Anaconda
Garth Twain wrote:
>
> Anaconda,
>
> Blah, blah, blah!... You just keep talking trash and never even try to
> offer proof that its legal. You can't possibly, but you already know that.
>
> You should be more respectful in converasion like your wife is. She's quite
> capable of getting a message across without that puke, unlike your sorry ass.
>
> I do hate to have keep pissing you off but - YOUR WRONG and well I'M
> RIGHT... How do I know that... Hmmm ... Because I'm the "insider" to the
> Pentagono reality pinhead and all the information has been confirmed.
>
> Go ahead and ask your upline... You do trust them to tell you the truth
> right Anaconda. <LOL>
>
> BTW, the two boys and Maria in Italy are laughing at you Pentagono puppets
> while they always get their cut no matter waht happens.
>
> I do like you Anaconda, I really do, you make me laugh and your easy to
> manipulate. But if you keep on taunting me in private with jokes about my
> cock, then I'm going to have to slap you around like you were my prison
> bitch... Ouch!... That's gonna hurt. :-))
>
> Garth
>
> P.S. Two can play your game Anaconda, only I'm better at it! Chat real soon
> Anaconda.
> ----
>
> In article <36E6CE8B...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
> Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> > Your information must have been based on the time just after they
> > started, as they employ 50 plus staff, not the 2 you suggest. As stated
> > before, you would be a useless juror in court as you simply cannot be
> > objective. Resoting to subjective penis size is boy toy stuff, not worth
> > anyone reading your "facts"!
> >
>
Anaconda
Garth Twain wrote:
>
> Anaconda,
>
> Blah, blah, blah!... You just keep talking trash and never even try to
> offer proof that its legal. You can't possibly, but you already know that.
>
> You should be more respectful in converasion like your wife is. She's quite
> capable of getting a message across without that puke, unlike your sorry ass.
>
> I do hate to have to keep pissing you off but - YOUR WRONG and well I'M
> RIGHT... How do I know that... Hmmm ... Well now that's because I'm the
> Pentagono "Insider" who knows what's really going on pinhead. AND ALL THAT
> INFORMATION IN THE REPORT AND AT THE WEBSITES IS FACT AND UPDATED!!!
>
> Go ahead and ask your upline... You do trust them to tell you the truth
> right Anaconda. <LOL> I already did my homework, so where's your proof?
>
> BTW, the two boys and Maria in Italy are laughing at you Pentagono puppets
> while they always get their cut no matter what happens.
>
> I do like you Anaconda, I really do, you make me laugh and your easy to
> manipulate. But if you keep on taunting me in private with jokes about my
> cock, then I'm going to have to slap you around like you were my prison
> bitch. Ouch! ... That's gonna hurt. :-))
>
> Garth
>
> P.S. Two can play your game Anaconda, only I'm better at it! Go ahead and call
> the SGT @ RCMP Anaconda... Who's laughing now eh, you hoser! :-))
> -----
>
> In article <36E6CCFE...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
> Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> > Sorry you guys have to resort to your dick size. Grow up!!
> >
> > Anaconda
> >
>
Repercussions? Go ahead, make my day; what are they (?)
Anaconda
> >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
You are so predictable and you allow your strings to be pulled far too
easily. I like you Anaconda, and not in a I wanna bang ya kinda way.
BTW, what is your sudden fixation with my cock? Get off it already. Okay
then now on to far more serious business...
So what your now saying to the group is that "WE" are all part of some
international conspiracy working in covert unison to bring Future Strategies
to its knees. Hmmm... Did somebody forget to tell me of this plan to
annihilate?
Get a grip screwie... Listen to yourself turkey tits!
Here we go, you can smell the anti-government attitude about to creep into
the Pentagono debate. I'm surprised it took you so long there Anaconda.
Newsflash -- If and when the RCMP does decide to spend the tax payers
money to come down on meatheads like you its going to be pretty embarrassing
for you. Oh and Anaconda, don't think for a moment it can't or won't happen.
The problem is that people are far too embarrassed to come forward and
press charges because they don't want to admit they were dumb enough to be
conned into a pyramid scheme by a sleezeball wannabe like you.
The Complaints Department at Industry Canada has been filing complaints on
Pentagono and its participants for quite sometime. Shit, maybe they even have
a file on you already, maybe. Ahhh, but your tough guy you can handle the
heat. I can see the smile on your face already. Oops I was wrong no smile!
Oh and you asked that I stop insulting "your" intelligence! - Intelligence
Anaconda? - Whatever! At least we here have provided facts Anaconda, you have
yet to provide anything but a good laugh.
Like I already said...
No matter what you (or any Pentagono participant) says or does, you can't
nor will you ever change the FACT that Pentagono is PYRAMID SCHEME in Canada
and therefore its ILLEGAL... But then again you don't seem capable of saying
much of anything at all... Enough Said!
Garth
P.S. Your friends have been to Italy and visited Future Strategies. Did they
like the "home" office pinhead. Give us the names of the two Italians then.
-----
In article <36E725E1...@NOSPAMhome.com>,
Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote:
> As stated, you are part of a worldwide scare mongering group without any
> legal judgements against Pentagono anywhere, period! If you have better
> facts than what you have presented, then I am waiting to hear them!
>
> Anaconda
>
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> Hi Garth,
>
> This is Mrs. Anaconda here, I haven't been following your discussion
> here, but I understand there is some disagreement about whether
> Pentagono works or not.
Irrelevant whether or not you are making money, the relevance is
on whether it is legal or not. A pyramid scheme is illegal, and the
RCMP has labeled Pentagono as such. Thus, Pentagono is
illegal.
> I have made about $1000 so far, and have letters
> from law firms affirming the legality of the process.
Please post the firms, their addresses/phone numbers, and lawyers
which affirm the legality of this in Canada.
> I also know that
> it is not illegal in any country, so I think it's a great game. Two more
> money orders in the last couple of days. It's fun getting money in the
> mail!
>
> Blessings to you.
>
Vip
You are so predictable and you allow your strings to be pulled far too
easily. I like you Anaconda, and not in a I wanna bang ya kinda way.
BTW, what is it with your sudden fixation on my penis?
Okay then now on to far more serious business...
Anaconda wrote:
"As stated, you are part of a worldwide scare mongering group without any
legal judgements against Pentagono anywhere, period! If you have better
facts than what you have presented, then I am waiting to hear them!"
So what your now saying to the group is that "WE" are all part of some
international conspiracy working in covert unison to bring Future Strategies
to its knees.
Hmmm... Did somebody forget to tell me of this plan to annihilate?
Get a grip screwie... Listen to yourself turkey tits!
Here we go, you can smell the anti-government attitude about to creep into
the Pentagono debate. I'm surprised it took you so long there Anaconda.
Newsflash -- If and when the RCMP does decide to spend the tax payers
money to come down on meatheads like you its going to be pretty embarrassing
for you. Oh and Anaconda, don't think for a moment it can't or won't happen.
The problem is that people are far too embarrassed to come forward and
press charges because they don't want to admit they were dumb enough to be
conned into a pyramid scheme by a sleezeball wannabe like you.
The Complaints Department at Industry Canada has been filing complaints on
Pentagono and its participants for quite sometime. Shit, maybe they even have
a file on you already, maybe. Ahhh, but your tough guy you can handle the
heat. I can see the smile on your face already. Oops I was wrong no smile
from you eh!
Oh and you asked that I stop insulting "your" intelligence! - Intelligence
Anaconda? - Whatever! At least we here have provided facts Anaconda, you have
yet to provide anything but a good laugh.
Like I already said...
No matter what you (or any Pentagono participant) says or does, you can't
nor will you ever change the FACT that Pentagono is PYRAMID SCHEME in Canada
and therefore its ILLEGAL... But then again you don't seem capable of saying
much of anything at all... Enough Said!
Garth
P.S. Your friends have been to Italy and visited Future Strategies. Did they
like the "home" office pinhead. Give us the names of the two Italians then.
-----
Your absolutely correct... Under Canadian Statute the Pentagono program is
a Pyramid Scheme and therefore its illegal.
Man the Pentagono program doesn't even have a legitimate product/service.
No one ever actually pays for that Countdown Card, no product was purchased
period, and that new SupremaCard is just a front. Therefore, the real product
is the Certificate and that is unacceptable business practice under our
pyramid laws.
But that doesn't much matter these people because their being allowed to
circulate misinformation and outright lies without fear of punishment. I for
one would applaud action by the RCMP. Its their freakin mandate to protect
against crap like this, they need to get off their asses and set an example.
Send a message to the public boys and girls.
BTW, great idea to have them provide names to include contact information
etc. Unfortunately that's never going to happen because they have NO evidence
to support their claims. Their is NO document from any legit law firm which
attests to Pentagono's legality within Canada. These poor souls have been
conned. Either they already know this it and just don't care or they simply
refuse to open their eyes and see the light
Yes, I too have heard all about the lawyers and cops who joined this
program. Even heard that a BIGWIG Judge here in Canada is a relation to one of
the Italian lads... That's pure BS!
I'm sure they feel its a valiant effort on their part, but we are forced
to draw the conclusion that these people are all talk and no action.
The truth of the matter is that all Pentagono participants are forced to
run and hide from reality but they can't nor will they ever escape their
reality and here's why -
No matter what any Pentagono participant says or does he/she can't nor will
they ever change the FACT that Pentagono is a PYRAMID SCHEME in Canada and
therefore its ILLEGAL... Enough Said!
But then again these people don't care because their selfish and greedy
and only capable of looking out for number one. In fact, whenever you talk to
one of these pyramid promoters they never seem to be able to get beyond their
own Seventh Level Payoff speech. Oh and that's right, they never offer proof
which makes it easy to discredit them.
Common sense dictates policy but what we have come to know is that people
who involve themselves with pyramid schemes refuse to use good judgement.
But we can hope eh VIP that maybe one of them will step up to the plate
and try to prove us wrong. No, I'm just teasing you. :-))
Really sad isn't it!
Garth
zaal
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:29:33 GMT, Anaconda <ben...@NOSPAMhome.com> wasted a
little bandwidth by writing:
>Had it with you non thinkers. You really don't get it, so adios amigas!
>
>Anaconda wrote:
>>
>> As stated, you are part of a worldwide scare mongering group without any
>> legal judgements against Pentagono anywhere, period! If you have better
>> facts than what you have presented, then I am waiting to hear them!
>>
>> Anaconda