(Help Needed) I've frozen my first synth, but...
Adam
back in the 90's, I just used the Synth Freeze function for the first time
(by right-clicking a midi track and selecting Freeze Synth).
This creates an audio clip image of the synth parts. So far so good.
However, when I try unfreezing (by right-clicking the same midi track and
selecting Unfreeze Synth) the audio track disappears, but the synth itself
won't turn back on.
In the Synth Rack view, I can see the instrument (in this case, Native
Instruments' Kontakt-based Hardcore Bass XP) get frozen, and then thawed...
but the on/off button (connect/disconnect) remains unlit... and nothing I
seem to be doing will turn it back on. Clicking it does nothing.
Does freezing a synth render it totally dead afterwards, even after being
thawed/unfrozen?
I'm using Sonar 7.0.2.
Thanks!
polymod
"Adam" <n...@thanks.com> wrote in message
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I don't freeze my softies that way.
Try freezing from within the synth rack and see if that makes a difference.
Poly
Rick Paul
reconnect it. Some synths do require you to open their UI for them to
reload their samples (e.g. Steinberg's Virtual Guitarist comes to mind), but
those are the exceptions, not the norm. Any version of Kontakt I've used
does reload just fine, including all its samples.
It doesn't matter if you use the Unfreeze command from one of the tracks or
from the Synth Rack (I usually do it on the track because I don't always
need to go to the Synth Rack at that point, if, for example, I just want to
edit some of the MIDI.
One thing I wonder about is if the synth in question is still loaded on
your system and functioning properly. For example, if you load it directly
from the Synth Rack, does it load okay? Even if not, though, I'd expect
you'd get some kind of message if it can't reconnect the synth. (Not to
mention if you JUST froze it, it was probably working recently.)
Only other thing I can think of is if there isn't enough available RAM to
reload the synth. Remembering SONAR only gets 2 GB of available application
RAM in 32-bit Windows, if the synth you're trying to load is big, and you've
already got some other big stuff loaded, it's possible that could make
loading it fail. Then again, I'd expect some kind of error message. (I'm
pretty sure I've encountered an issue in this area in the past, but I don't
recall what the symptoms were.)
Rick
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"Adam" <n...@thanks.com> wrote in message
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John Braner
> Unfreezing the synth usually loads the synth back up, and should certainly
> reconnect it. Some synths do require you to open their UI for them to
> reload their samples (e.g. Steinberg's Virtual Guitarist comes to mind), but
> those are the exceptions, not the norm. Any version of Kontakt I've used
> does reload just fine, including all its samples.
>
> It doesn't matter if you use the Unfreeze command from one of the tracks or
> from the Synth Rack (I usually do it on the track because I don't always
> need to go to the Synth Rack at that point, if, for example, I just want to
> edit some of the MIDI.
>
> One thing I wonder about is if the synth in question is still loaded on
> your system and functioning properly. For example, if you load it directly
> from the Synth Rack, does it load okay? Even if not, though, I'd expect
> you'd get some kind of message if it can't reconnect the synth. (Not to
> mention if you JUST froze it, it was probably working recently.)
>
> Only other thing I can think of is if there isn't enough available RAM to
> reload the synth. Remembering SONAR only gets 2 GB of available application
> RAM in 32-bit Windows, if the synth you're trying to load is big, and you've
> already got some other big stuff loaded, it's possible that could make
> loading it fail. Then again, I'd expect some kind of error message. (I'm
> pretty sure I've encountered an issue in this area in the past, but I don't
> recall what the symptoms were.)
>
> Rick
Going one step further than what Rick says - if worse comes to worse, you can always reload the
synth and assign the existing MIDI track to it (then delete the original instansce of the synth).
you can be sooper safe by then saving the song with a new name ie "song1-updated", so the older
version is always there to play around with.
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