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Mick

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:32:15 PM2/24/08
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I would like some advice on what to start with. I run Windows XP with a
Soundblaster Live E800 soundcard. I play guitar and bass and I also have a
Yamaha keyboard (though i'm pretty basic player).
I would like something fairly simple to learn the ropes which would allow me
to record guitar, vocals, bass, midi keyboard and mix them. I am not looking
for perfection, but would like something simple which would teach me the
ropes. I am fairly computer and music savvy. I would prefer in the first
instance not to change my PC and soundcard but would do so if necessary.
I also need (either integrated or as a stand alone program):
- A drum machine which is simple like the old Alesis SR16: a couple of
hundred beats, some fills, adjust the tempo and hey presto you have a drum
track.
- A guitar and bass amp simulator.
I have asked on the Cubase and Cakewalk NGs cos I don't know of a 'generic'
forum. I am happy to use any product which will do the job.
Mick


Ricky Hunt

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Feb 24, 2008, 10:43:08 PM2/24/08
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If you want to go totally free until you get the ropes I'd suggest N-Track:
http://ntrack.com/ It's basically shareware but you can do all you want with
the "free" version include using VST and DirectX instruments and effects
(and there's so many good, free ones there's no need to purchase any at this
point). Once you've learned your way around you'd be hard pressed to beat
Cakewalk's Home Studio (which I see is called Sonar Home Studio now:
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/HomeStudio/default.asp) or maybe or maybe
Cakewalk's Guitar Tracks (I see the "Pro" version but I think there's a
"lesser" version which usually means maybe less tracks, though you'll still
get plenty out of any of them):
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/GuitarTracksPro/default.asp. There's
usually different "levels" for each products line so you can choose just how
much power you want, etc. But I'd say Home Studio is sufficient for 90% of
the people out there. Cakewalk has videos on it's website as well as a
channel on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/CakewalkSoftware so you can
see a lot of the software in action. There's also downloadable demo versions
of all their software with only minimal changes (mostly the "Save" feature
which is not minimal really but still you can get the idea of how the
software functions unhindered). These programs (Cakewalk's Sonar, Cubase,
etc.) are generally referred to as DAWs (digital audio workstations) so
search on that in Google or newsgroups (and even Wikipedia) will probably
get you some help.

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Angof

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Feb 25, 2008, 6:41:38 PM2/25/08
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I dont know N-track but it soudns like a good place to start. What I did was
lurk ebay until I found a reasonably priced legal copy of Cakewalk sonar it
was version 4 when 5 was the latest version, but in truth if youre like me
and got Sonar version 4 it would be ages before you got to use its fully
capability if ever. I upgraded to sonar 6 because I wanted the ability to
work with surround sound one day I only scratch the surface now.:-)

I would try Home Studio, its cheaper and you can upgrade to the full Sonar
if you wish later.

angof


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Mar 6, 2008, 7:33:07 PM3/6/08
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On Feb 24, 10:43 pm, "Ricky Hunt" <rhun...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> If you want to go totally free until you get the ropes I'd suggest N-Track:http://ntrack.com/

You're the best! Just a lurker-newbie question,

Hymns have verses and so do songs. I had wave files (made of
renaissance hymns) one verse long. I don't suppose ntrack can I
repeat it for all 5 verses so I have a recording of a complete hymn?

Thanks,
Bob

Kris Krieger

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Mar 18, 2008, 7:41:12 PM3/18/08
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"Ricky Hunt" <rhu...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> If you want to go totally free until you get the ropes I'd suggest
> N-Track: http://ntrack.com/ It's basically shareware but you can do
> all you want with the "free" version include using VST and DirectX
> instruments and effects (and there's so many good, free ones there's
> no need to purchase any at this point). Once you've learned your way
> around you'd be hard pressed to beat Cakewalk's Home Studio (which I
> see is called Sonar Home Studio now:
> http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/HomeStudio/default.asp) or maybe or
> maybe Cakewalk's Guitar Tracks (I see the "Pro" version but I think
> there's a "lesser" version which usually means maybe less tracks,
> though you'll still get plenty out of any of them):
> http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/GuitarTracksPro/default.asp. There's
> usually different "levels" for each products line so you can choose
> just how much power you want, etc. But I'd say Home Studio is
> sufficient for 90% of the people out there. Cakewalk has videos on
> it's website as well as a channel on Youtube:
> http://www.youtube.com/user/CakewalkSoftware so you can see a lot of
> the software in action. There's also downloadable demo versions of all
> their software with only minimal changes (mostly the "Save" feature
> which is not minimal really but still you can get the idea of how the
> software functions unhindered). These programs (Cakewalk's Sonar,
> Cubase, etc.) are generally referred to as DAWs (digital audio
> workstations) so search on that in Google or newsgroups (and even
> Wikipedia) will probably get you some help.

Hello,

as an expansion of the above, I don't do any recording (I have an old
Yamaha electric piano (PF1500) but it's not even hooked into the sound
card), also run Win XP, 4GB RAM ((I do 3D modeling)), SB AUdigy 4. I
compose music, and want to have good sounds available, as well as the
ability to use regular musical notation. I want to save my pieces in MP3
format. Maybe to CDs at some point in the future. THat's it - b=pretty
basic.

I'm considering Cakewalk SONAR Home Studio 6 XL - mainly, I want good
instrument sounds - the Audigy supposedly can deliver that, but I assume
that either eth eon-board synth isn't all that great, or it isn't playing
nice with my antiquated (ca 1991) music notation software. But, would
Sonar 6 XL be "overkill...?

Many Thanks in Advance!

Mag

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Jan 24, 2010, 2:55:36 PM1/24/10
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Mick
This is a totally different answer to what you were looking for, but try the
Roland MicroBR. It is a tiny 4 track digital recording studio. You can
record guitar, bass, keyboard straight through a standard jack plug. It also
has an onboard microphone which is of excellent quality.
It has a rhythm section (which is additional to the 4 tracks) which is very
similar to an SR16. The guitar has about 60 presets which give you a huge
range of guitar sounds and it also has a couple of bass presets.
You can record, eq and master the whole thing on the MicroBR or (with a free
program from Roland) upload them onto a program like Cakewalk Sonar.
I run it off rechargable batteries, I record everything on the MicroBR then
upload the digital tracks to Sonar to Eq and master them.
Mick

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