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KSM32 vs. TLM103 vs. Rode NT2

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YCLee

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Jan 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/13/00
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I remember reading some time back that some ppl on this newsgroup
recommended the RODE above the SHure KSM32 and Neumann TLM103 for vocals
and acoustic guitar.

I recently checked the price and found RODES to be the cheapest of
these. In fact TLM 103 is double the price. Anyone care to comment?

TImothy Lee


DJobvious

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Jan 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/13/00
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I have the TLM 103, and the KSM32 (in addition to others such as AKG414)
and I find the TLM 103 to be the mike of choice for that sweet, round
yet present vocal sound. On acoustic guitar it pretty's up the sound
sometimes too much, especially if you prefer a darker, earthy tone.

The KSM32 is also great, and has less high presence; sounds better on
screechy female vocals or sibilance problems. It gives a real, full
sound. Also great for guitar amps.

I haven't heard the NT1 though I've heard lots over the past year on
rec.audio.pro.

YMMV

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Jim Roseberry

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> I remember reading some time back that some ppl on this newsgroup
> recommended the RODE above the SHure KSM32 and Neumann TLM103 for vocals
> and acoustic guitar.

I don't personally like the Rode mics for Acoustic Gtr.
They're a bit too warm...


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John

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Jan 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/13/00
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>SHure KSM32

I'm using this mic for a variety of things including accoustic g. I am very
pleased.

John

Pete Leoni

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Jan 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/13/00
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> I don't personally like the Rode mics for Acoustic Gtr.
> They're a bit too warm...

No, that's not colorful enough to describe it: <G> They really suck on
acoustic.


Jim Roseberry

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Jan 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/13/00
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> No, that's not colorful enough to describe it: <G> They really suck on
> acoustic.

OK...
They blow hard! <g>

Many of the small diaphragm condensor mics work well. (Neuman, Sure, AT,
etc)
And the 'brighter' large diaphragm mics also work well (414, etc).

Dale Pfeiffer

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>> I don't personally like the Rode mics for Acoustic Gtr.
>> They're a bit too warm...
>
>No, that's not colorful enough to describe it: <G> They really suck on
>acoustic.


Have you tried the Rode in omni mode ? Of course a small condenser almost
always sounds better to me <g>

Dale

Jim Roseberry

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> Have you tried the Rode in omni mode ?

I still don't like it. <g>
It just doesn't sit well in a mix.

From what I've heard, the KSM32 is supposed to be a great "all-around
workhorse" mic.
Haven't used it myself...

Bill Edstrom Jr

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I am starting to become a fan of the KSM32 for vocals. But for acoustic
guitar, you couldn't do much better than getting a Neumann KM184.

Bill

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> I remember reading some time back that some ppl on this newsgroup
> recommended the RODE above the SHure KSM32 and Neumann TLM103 for vocals
> and acoustic guitar.
>

Pete Leoni

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Jan 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/14/00
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> Have you tried the Rode in omni mode ? Of course a small condenser
almost
> always sounds better to me <g>

Yeah, it blows Omni chunks

pete

Catena

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Jan 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/14/00
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> I am starting to become a fan of the KSM32 for vocals. But for acoustic
> guitar, you couldn't do much better than getting a Neumann KM184.

I have used regularly the small condensers from Neumann, the KM184, and the
KM100 series with exchangeable capsules (the 150 is equivalent to the 184).
They're very accurate microphones that can be used for almost anything that
doesn't require some spicing (like vocals), because they're extremely flat
and clean. I like it for acoustic guitars, among many other things
(favourite for cymbals), but it always depends on the sound you want to get.
The NT1 doesn't capture well the brighness and fast transients, but can be
used for warm sound. I believe that the sound from the NT2 is almost
identical when used in cardioid mode. I have not experience with the Oktava
012, but people that does affirm that it's very similar to the KM100 series,
but much cheaper.

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Nathan West

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Jan 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/14/00
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Catena wrote:

> KM100 series with exchangeable capsules (the 150 is equivalent to the 184).

The 150 can sound similar to the 184, but my experience has been that the 184
works better in more situations and I like its character better.

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Ernie Danger

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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Hey gang
I too am purchasing a new mic this week. I need something around $600 and
am considering the Shureksm32 or the AT 4050 because I'm thinking the dual
diaphragm may come in handy for group harmonies. (?)Also, I have been
impressed with the gtr trax I layed down at another jingle studio and how
the AT mics sound on smaller gtr combo amps (the way it "brought out the
upper midrange complexities" as Anderton would put it!) The versatility of
the AT and the fact that it seems you get a little more for your money is
alluring to me. I record some acoustic and electric gtrs-vocals for rock,
pop and metal. Anyways, I have the basic 57s and 58s and need one good
all-around for my basic basement studio which is drumming up lots of work
recently,
The new system I'm running is
Athlon 650
Delta 1010
Tascam 8 ch mixer (soon to be replaced)
What would be the logical choice?

Thanx again
Jeff Loven

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Ernie Danger

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Hey gang
I too am purchasing a new mic this week. I need something around $600 and
am considering the Shureksm32 -or the AT 4050 because I'm thinking the dual

Bill Edstrom Jr

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I continue to be impressed with the KSM32. I am thinking of getting a second
one. I have used the AT mics before and found that the high end tends to
sound harsh with some types of voices expecially female. AT's have worked
well for me on male vocals, a variety of acoustic instruments including
piano. But the KSM is in my experience a great mic that is a bargain at the
price.

Bill

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Rigel Russell

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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I'm using the Rode NT1, and I'm pretty happy with it. However, since you're
already planning to spend more, and you're getting more and more business,
I'd suggest a Neumann TLM103 (closer to 900 bucks) - which is known to sound
great, and has the all-important name-appeal (since people are paying to
record there). This second thing wouldn't be an issue if it was just
yourself recording.

Rigel


Dub Campbell

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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Ernie,

The night I bought my 1010 I decided to get a recording mixer to go along with
it. It came down to the 16 Track Mackie and the 16 track Alesis Studio 32. I
went for the Alesis and am quite happy with it. Mackie is an excellent choice
as well. Dub

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Kevin Perry

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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Rigel Russell wrote:

It does sound great....and dang quiet. The name thing is unfortunately true.
Average Joe's will yawn thru Soundelux, Lawson, Josephson but say Neumann and
they light up...

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Kevin Perry
Chameleon Music
Sound Impresssions Mastering
Nashville, TN

Max Arwood

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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Rock "N" Rhythm prices

AKG 414 uls $699
AKG 414 TLII $799

Max Arwood
mar...@hnb.com

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