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Glennbo
Feb 16, 2018, 4:14:39 PM2/16/18
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Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open public
alpha.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
You drop his .dll file into your Reaper "UserPlugins" folder, and then
Reaper can directly open Sonar .cwp files. I just tried it, and even with
my ancient Sonar files, I'm able to open them in Reaper.
None of the instrument plugins I used way back then are installed now so
anything midi has to be assigned new VSTi plugins. Same with all my old
ancient audio plugins, but all the audio files get loaded, and all the
midi data gets loaded.
I loaded a Sonar jam song that had three audio tracks and six midi
tracks, inserted my Superor Drummer track template and put the drum midi
track on it, then inserted an instance of Kontakt, loaded it with
BariSax, Tenor, Trumpets, Hammond, Mellotron and sent the other five midi
tracks to it.
In about fifteen minutes, I was doing a quick mix down. His .dll is still
considered alpha, but it works well enough to use already like it is.
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Sue Morton
Feb 16, 2018, 8:49:48 PM2/16/18
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Sweet!
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Sue Morton
"Glennbo" wrote
Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open public
alpha.
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Sue Morton
"Glennbo" wrote
Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open public
alpha.
Glennbo
Feb 16, 2018, 9:40:42 PM2/16/18
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In news:p681nq$s6u$1...@appyface.eternal-september.org the killer robot
"Sue Morton" <867-...@domain.invalid> grabbed the controls of the
spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
> Sweet!
I've converted about four songs now. They load in with folder structures
that I must have had setup in Sonar, so I flatten all the tracks out
which takes me a minute, then regroup the tracks like I do it now, and
then add in whatever new FX I want to use. None of the FX I used on those
old Sonar songs are present on my current machine, so I'm using all
present day FX when I import these Sonar projects into Reaper.
"Sue Morton" <867-...@domain.invalid> grabbed the controls of the
spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
> Sweet!
I've converted about four songs now. They load in with folder structures
that I must have had setup in Sonar, so I flatten all the tracks out
which takes me a minute, then regroup the tracks like I do it now, and
then add in whatever new FX I want to use. None of the FX I used on those
old Sonar songs are present on my current machine, so I'm using all
present day FX when I import these Sonar projects into Reaper.
BobF
Feb 17, 2018, 4:51:21 AM2/17/18
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On 2/16/2018 3:14 PM, Glennbo wrote:
> Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open public
> alpha.
>
> https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
>
> You drop his .dll file into your Reaper "UserPlugins" folder, and then
> Reaper can directly open Sonar .cwp files. I just tried it, and even with
> my ancient Sonar files, I'm able to open them in Reaper.
>
> None of the instrument plugins I used way back then are installed now so
> anything midi has to be assigned new VSTi plugins. Same with all my old
> ancient audio plugins, but all the audio files get loaded, and all the
> midi data gets loaded.
>
> I loaded a Sonar jam song that had three audio tracks and six midi
> tracks, inserted my Superor Drummer track template and put the drum midi
> track on it, then inserted an instance of Kontakt, loaded it with
> BariSax, Tenor, Trumpets, Hammond, Mellotron and sent the other five midi
> tracks to it.
>
> In about fifteen minutes, I was doing a quick mix down. His .dll is still
> considered alpha, but it works well enough to use already like it is.
>
>
>
Having Alexey land in the Reaper camp is one more reason I'm spending
> Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open public
> alpha.
>
> https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
>
> You drop his .dll file into your Reaper "UserPlugins" folder, and then
> Reaper can directly open Sonar .cwp files. I just tried it, and even with
> my ancient Sonar files, I'm able to open them in Reaper.
>
> None of the instrument plugins I used way back then are installed now so
> anything midi has to be assigned new VSTi plugins. Same with all my old
> ancient audio plugins, but all the audio files get loaded, and all the
> midi data gets loaded.
>
> I loaded a Sonar jam song that had three audio tracks and six midi
> tracks, inserted my Superor Drummer track template and put the drum midi
> track on it, then inserted an instance of Kontakt, loaded it with
> BariSax, Tenor, Trumpets, Hammond, Mellotron and sent the other five midi
> tracks to it.
>
> In about fifteen minutes, I was doing a quick mix down. His .dll is still
> considered alpha, but it works well enough to use already like it is.
>
>
>
more time with Reaper than Studio One these days.
I had planned to keep the Cake stuff installed, but with this converter
that won't be necessary. Not that I'll go thru the trouble to uninstall
right away, I just won't worry about installing on future machines.
He created a VERY kool CS plug-in for SONAR. I worked with him on the
FaderPort presets. As open as Reaper is, I bet we see a lot of good
stuff from him moving forward.
John Braner
Feb 17, 2018, 6:32:30 AM2/17/18
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On 16/02/2018 21:14, Glennbo wrote:
> Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open public
> alpha.
>
> https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
>
> You drop his .dll file into your Reaper "UserPlugins" folder, and then
> Reaper can directly open Sonar .cwp files. I just tried it, and even with
> my ancient Sonar files, I'm able to open them in Reaper.
>
> None of the instrument plugins I used way back then are installed now so
> anything midi has to be assigned new VSTi plugins. Same with all my old
> ancient audio plugins, but all the audio files get loaded, and all the
> midi data gets loaded.
>
> I loaded a Sonar jam song that had three audio tracks and six midi
> tracks, inserted my Superor Drummer track template and put the drum midi
> track on it, then inserted an instance of Kontakt, loaded it with
> BariSax, Tenor, Trumpets, Hammond, Mellotron and sent the other five midi
> tracks to it.
>
> In about fifteen minutes, I was doing a quick mix down. His .dll is still
> considered alpha, but it works well enough to use already like it is.
>
>
>
I thought he was limiting the number of testers, to keep things manageable?
> Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open public
> alpha.
>
> https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
>
> You drop his .dll file into your Reaper "UserPlugins" folder, and then
> Reaper can directly open Sonar .cwp files. I just tried it, and even with
> my ancient Sonar files, I'm able to open them in Reaper.
>
> None of the instrument plugins I used way back then are installed now so
> anything midi has to be assigned new VSTi plugins. Same with all my old
> ancient audio plugins, but all the audio files get loaded, and all the
> midi data gets loaded.
>
> I loaded a Sonar jam song that had three audio tracks and six midi
> tracks, inserted my Superor Drummer track template and put the drum midi
> track on it, then inserted an instance of Kontakt, loaded it with
> BariSax, Tenor, Trumpets, Hammond, Mellotron and sent the other five midi
> tracks to it.
>
> In about fifteen minutes, I was doing a quick mix down. His .dll is still
> considered alpha, but it works well enough to use already like it is.
>
>
>
This will be quite a coup, when it's ready ;-)
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BobF
Feb 17, 2018, 8:35:05 AM2/17/18
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polymod
Feb 17, 2018, 9:03:16 AM2/17/18
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"Glennbo" wrote in message
news:XnsA88B9B0FF9186Br...@85.214.115.223...
Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open public
alpha.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This is awesome! Can't wait to try it out.
Thanks G'bo!!
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Glennbo
Feb 17, 2018, 11:02:43 AM2/17/18
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In news:p68tuo$ba4$1...@dont-email.me the killer robot BobF
<nos...@spam.free> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio
and pressed these buttons...
Even though my older Sonar 5 projects throw out errors when I use his
converter, they still convert. Even older projects from Sonar 4 and before
can still be converted by loading them into Sonar 5, then doing a save as,
putting a new version of the file elsewhere. Then opening it in Reaper.
<nos...@spam.free> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio
and pressed these buttons...
converter, they still convert. Even older projects from Sonar 4 and before
can still be converted by loading them into Sonar 5, then doing a save as,
putting a new version of the file elsewhere. Then opening it in Reaper.
Glennbo
Feb 17, 2018, 11:10:36 AM2/17/18
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In news:p69cn0$10ps$1...@gioia.aioe.org the killer robot "polymod"
<pol...@optonline.net> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
folder, which will be at the following location:
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\UserPlugins
(replace USERNAME with your Windows sign on name)
The one thing that threw me at first was I was getting all these folders
and busses, but it turns out that he is converting the structures that
existed in the original file. I converted another one last night and it
had my old old old V-Drums recorded to four tracks, and they were routed
to a sub. Then there were eight vocal tracks, and same thing, they had
their own sub, and finally the bass, guitars, and keys were on a sub.
Rather than tear the structure down I decided to just try working with
it, and was surprised that I had the song in mixing shape so quick. I
wouldn't do busses in Reaper these days, since just using a folder works
as a sub, but the translation builds the submasters just like they were
setup in the original Sonar project.
<pol...@optonline.net> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
> Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open public
> alpha.
>
> https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> I had to look at the calendar to make sure it's not April 1.
>
> This is awesome! Can't wait to try it out.
All you have to do is copy the one .dll file into your "userplugins"
> alpha.
>
> https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> I had to look at the calendar to make sure it's not April 1.
>
> This is awesome! Can't wait to try it out.
folder, which will be at the following location:
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\UserPlugins
(replace USERNAME with your Windows sign on name)
The one thing that threw me at first was I was getting all these folders
and busses, but it turns out that he is converting the structures that
existed in the original file. I converted another one last night and it
had my old old old V-Drums recorded to four tracks, and they were routed
to a sub. Then there were eight vocal tracks, and same thing, they had
their own sub, and finally the bass, guitars, and keys were on a sub.
Rather than tear the structure down I decided to just try working with
it, and was surprised that I had the song in mixing shape so quick. I
wouldn't do busses in Reaper these days, since just using a folder works
as a sub, but the translation builds the submasters just like they were
setup in the original Sonar project.
Nil
Feb 18, 2018, 1:51:36 AM2/18/18
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On 16 Feb 2018, Glennbo <vdrumsYourHe...@cox.net> wrote in
cakewalk.audio:
> Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open
> public alpha.
>
> https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
This will be a huge help for me! I built a new computer a couple of
months ago and was unable to install my old Sonar 5 on it. I've been
slowly trying to export the elements of old projects on the old
computer and trying to reconstruct them in Reaper on the new computer.
Needless to say, it's been tedious and not entirely successful.
I tried the converter on a couple of simple Sonar projects, and it
seemed to work pretty well! Audio tracks appear to be re-created with
clips intact. I'll try something more complex as soon as I can. I hope
it will be able to export MIDI tracks and track envelopes.
Thanks for the heads-up!
cakewalk.audio:
> Azslow3 has made his "Sonar to Reaper" converter .dll an open
> public alpha.
>
> https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
months ago and was unable to install my old Sonar 5 on it. I've been
slowly trying to export the elements of old projects on the old
computer and trying to reconstruct them in Reaper on the new computer.
Needless to say, it's been tedious and not entirely successful.
I tried the converter on a couple of simple Sonar projects, and it
seemed to work pretty well! Audio tracks appear to be re-created with
clips intact. I'll try something more complex as soon as I can. I hope
it will be able to export MIDI tracks and track envelopes.
Thanks for the heads-up!
Glennbo
Feb 18, 2018, 11:54:38 AM2/18/18
to
In news:XnsA88D12EA...@wheedledeedle.moc the killer robot Nil
<redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
I loaded an old project that had a lot of softsynths, and the converter
even built a track called "SynthRack" that it was routing the output of
other tracks with softsynths to.
I didn't really want the song to have that octapus way of doing it, so I
put each softsynth right on the tracks that contained the midi, but it was
cool that his conversion routine translated it into the way Reaper works.
<redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
even built a track called "SynthRack" that it was routing the output of
other tracks with softsynths to.
I didn't really want the song to have that octapus way of doing it, so I
put each softsynth right on the tracks that contained the midi, but it was
cool that his conversion routine translated it into the way Reaper works.
Nil
Feb 20, 2018, 1:17:44 AM2/20/18
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On 18 Feb 2018, Glennbo <vdrumsYourHe...@cox.net> wrote in
cakewalk.audio:
> I loaded an old project that had a lot of softsynths, and the
> converter even built a track called "SynthRack" that it was
> routing the output of other tracks with softsynths to.
>
> I didn't really want the song to have that octapus way of doing
> it, so I put each softsynth right on the tracks that contained the
> midi, but it was cool that his conversion routine translated it
> into the way Reaper works.
I converted a project that had three soft synths and a bunch of audio
tracks. The MIDI drum track consisted of a bunch of looped clips plus
several manually programmed measures. There was also a complex tempo
map. And a couple of tracks had complex volume envelopes.
The drum track got all screwed up - the looped clips were converted to
a single clip, which was OK, but some of the manual fills just
disappeared, leaving empty measures. I ended up having to go back to
the original project and export the MIDI drum track from there.
The tempo map survived the operation, I was surprised and pleased to
find. The various volume envelopes all disappeared. All the effects
disappeared without a trace (maybe because they were DX?) The VSTi's
were indicated, albeit as missing, but at lease I knew were they were
to go so I could replace them in Reaper or find substitutes. As you
mentioned, there was a lot of odd tracks representing busses and soft-
synth tracks, and there was a lot of reconfiguring of sends and
receives.
The conversion is very helpful, but there's still a good deal of
cleanup work to be done afterward. I've been using the guy's nightly
build versions, and I presume that they are getting better. I'll try
another one in a few days when I have some time.
cakewalk.audio:
> I loaded an old project that had a lot of softsynths, and the
> converter even built a track called "SynthRack" that it was
> routing the output of other tracks with softsynths to.
>
> I didn't really want the song to have that octapus way of doing
> it, so I put each softsynth right on the tracks that contained the
> midi, but it was cool that his conversion routine translated it
> into the way Reaper works.
tracks. The MIDI drum track consisted of a bunch of looped clips plus
several manually programmed measures. There was also a complex tempo
map. And a couple of tracks had complex volume envelopes.
The drum track got all screwed up - the looped clips were converted to
a single clip, which was OK, but some of the manual fills just
disappeared, leaving empty measures. I ended up having to go back to
the original project and export the MIDI drum track from there.
The tempo map survived the operation, I was surprised and pleased to
find. The various volume envelopes all disappeared. All the effects
disappeared without a trace (maybe because they were DX?) The VSTi's
were indicated, albeit as missing, but at lease I knew were they were
to go so I could replace them in Reaper or find substitutes. As you
mentioned, there was a lot of odd tracks representing busses and soft-
synth tracks, and there was a lot of reconfiguring of sends and
receives.
The conversion is very helpful, but there's still a good deal of
cleanup work to be done afterward. I've been using the guy's nightly
build versions, and I presume that they are getting better. I'll try
another one in a few days when I have some time.
Glennbo
Feb 20, 2018, 12:10:35 PM2/20/18
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In news:XnsA88FD2A...@wheedledeedle.moc the killer robot Nil
Every project I've converted either had softsynths that I no longer have
installed, or in some cases were originally setup using outboard midi
hardware which I also no longer have, so I've had to re-assign all midi
stuff to new plugins.
As for audio plugins, it's the same situation, because I went 64-bit over a
year ago and no longer have but three or four 32-bit plugins for audio, so
I've had to assign all new plugs there too. In both cases I would be doing
that anyway, because the instruments and audio plugs I have now are so much
better than what I was using when I was still using Sonar.
<redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
installed, or in some cases were originally setup using outboard midi
hardware which I also no longer have, so I've had to re-assign all midi
stuff to new plugins.
As for audio plugins, it's the same situation, because I went 64-bit over a
year ago and no longer have but three or four 32-bit plugins for audio, so
I've had to assign all new plugs there too. In both cases I would be doing
that anyway, because the instruments and audio plugs I have now are so much
better than what I was using when I was still using Sonar.
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